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YoungJRNYfan wrote:Director James Gunn fired from GoTG3 after old tweets surface. Developing.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:Director James Gunn fired from GoTG3 after old tweets surface. Developing.
Gunn came from Troma. For Disney to act outraged now is disingenuous to the max. I think GOTG mostly sucks. However, Gunn never lied about his shock cinema/provocative past.
@Nutcase020
Ed Norton just ROASTED Marvel...
"I tried being like Bruce. I did a big action film, The Incredible Hulk. Know what went wrong? I wanted a better script. I thought we should make at least one Marvel movie that's as good as the worst Christopher Nolan movie, but what do I know."
verslibre wrote:Look like this thread could use some more action. This is from Ed Norton's speech on The Comedy Central Roast of Bruce Willis last night.@Nutcase020
Ed Norton just ROASTED Marvel...
"I tried being like Bruce. I did a big action film, The Incredible Hulk. Know what went wrong? I wanted a better script. I thought we should make at least one Marvel movie that's as good as the worst Christopher Nolan movie, but what do I know."
https://twitter.com/Nutcase020/status/1023767350053621760
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Norton's wisecracks would actually sting if Hulk was universally unpopular like Cyborg or Cavill's Superman or other members of the Justice League.
Disney Unlikely to Rehire ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ Director James Gunn (EXCLUSIVE)
At this point, the letter does not seem likely to save his job. Gunn’s firing was approved by Disney Studios chief Alan Horn, with his boss, company CEO Bob Iger weighing in on the final decision. The involvement of the highest levels of Disney signals that the cast pressure to rethink the Gunn ouster will struggle to gain internal support. “I don’t see Disney re-hiring him,” says one person close to the matter. “Those tweets were so horrible and Disney has a different standard then other studios.”
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Quick thoughts on Ant Man 2 - too many sidekicks, too much slapstick, one too many villains (Walton Goggins was more of a distraction), but otherwise alot of fun. I think they should do a film with just Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer tripping the rift in the microverse (or whatever its called). Ghost was a uniquely sympathetic and cruel villain. B+
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:Did you see the midcredit scene?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Did you see the midcredit scene?
Yes.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Did you see the midcredit scene?
Yes.
Do you think that whole quantum realm thing will factor into defeating Than is?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Big time. My guess is Strange and Ant Man will meet up.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:The Scorpion could possibly be the greatest villian in comic book history!
verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:The Scorpion could possibly be the greatest villian in comic book history!
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:The Scorpion could possibly be the greatest villian in comic book history!
I was laughing as I wrote it. I was trying to recreate the blind eternal optimism and lack of reality in the other thread. I guess I'm just not delusional enough to pull it off. Lol.
RedWingFan wrote:verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:The Scorpion could possibly be the greatest villian in comic book history!
I was laughing as I wrote it. I was trying to recreate the blind eternal optimism and lack of reality in the other thread. I guess I'm just not delusional enough to pull it off. Lol.
verslibre wrote:So you're saying a DC cultist is the mirror of a Marvel cultist?
Marvel fandom has been a (rabid) thing for decades, long before 2008, Remember "Marvel zombies"? (Later, Marvel even poked fun at it themselves with a comic titled exactly that.)
OTOH, there was no such thing as a DC zombie. Certainly not in my case. My fanboyness revolved around creators.
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:So you're saying a DC cultist is the mirror of a Marvel cultist?
Marvel fandom has been a (rabid) thing for decades, long before 2008, Remember "Marvel zombies"? (Later, Marvel even poked fun at it themselves with a comic titled exactly that.)
OTOH, there was no such thing as a DC zombie. Certainly not in my case. My fanboyness revolved around creators.
The simple fact is Marvel has established themselves in a way that maybe only Star Wars has. That isn't "Marvel zonbie" talking...where everything Marvel does is fawned over and believed, good or bad, and praised. The simple fact is Marvel had a two films gross over $3,000,000,000 combined this year. And, they had a minor throw away film in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Marvel knows how to tell their stories and keep them moving forward in a "big picture" goal for the Avenger movies. If Marvel fans were nothing but a bunch of zombies, the Ant-Man films would be bigger than they were and there would not have been such a backlash against Gunn being fired. Marvel has been rewarded by fans for making good decisions and producing good
and entertaining films.
DC fans can't even acknowledge that from Wonder Woman on DC is trying to emulate what Marvel has done. The "dark" of DC is gone. Wonder Woman was a cookie cutter origin mythos tale. The Superfriends movie was a bad parody of an Avengers movie. DC is going to release a comedy film with Shazam which seems aimed at teens and younger. Aquaman looks and feels like an underwater version of Thor to me. Batman is turning its back on Batfleck and going back to a youthful Batman. You are being incredibly presumptuous if you believe it is going to be as dark of a story as the last trilogy. The state of DC is so random that you can NOT guarantee that.
The fact that you blindly support all of the above, and critique Marvel over making similar style films means you are at the very least being hypocritical. I have believed for a long time that there is a lot of jealousy going on here...because Marvel releases successful films, and now HUGELY successful billion dollar films, quite regularly. DC can't get themselves together enough to compete with that. DC, and their fans, desperately want a piece of that pie...and their two best chances of having those billion dollar films are gone...BvS and Justice League.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:I was thinking
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:So you're saying a DC cultist is the mirror of a Marvel cultist?
Marvel fandom has been a (rabid) thing for decades, long before 2008, Remember "Marvel zombies"? (Later, Marvel even poked fun at it themselves with a comic titled exactly that.)
OTOH, there was no such thing as a DC zombie. Certainly not in my case. My fanboyness revolved around creators.
The simple fact is Marvel has established themselves in a way that maybe only Star Wars has.
Monker wrote: That isn't "Marvel zonbie" talking...where everything Marvel does is fawned over and believed, good or bad, and praised.
Monker wrote:The simple fact is Marvel had a two films gross over $3,000,000,000 combined this year.
Monker wrote:And, they had a minor throw away film in Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Monker wrote:Marvel knows how to tell their stories and keep them moving forward in a "big picture" goal for the Avenger movies.
Monker wrote:If Marvel fans were nothing but a bunch of zombies, the Ant-Man films would be bigger than they were and there would not have been such a backlash against Gunn being fired. Marvel has been rewarded by fans for making good decisions and producing good and entertaining films.
Monker wrote:DC fans can't even acknowledge that from Wonder Woman on DC is trying to emulate what Marvel has done.
Monker wrote:The "dark" of DC is gone.
Monker wrote:Wonder Woman was a cookie cutter origin mythos tale.
Monker wrote:The Superfriends movie was a bad parody of an Avengers movie.
Monker wrote:DC is going to release a comedy film with Shazam which seems aimed at teens and younger.
Monker wrote:Aquaman looks and feels like an underwater version of Thor to me.
Monker wrote:Batman is turning its back on Batfleck and going back to a youthful Batman. You are being incredibly presumptuous if you believe it is going to be as dark of a story as the last trilogy. The state of DC is so random that you can NOT guarantee that.
Monker wrote:The fact that you blindly support all of the above, and critique Marvel over making similar style films means you are at the very least being hypocritical.
Monker wrote:I have believed for a long time that there is a lot of jealousy going on here...because Marvel releases successful films, and now HUGELY successful billion dollar films, quite regularly. DC can't get themselves together enough to compete with that. DC, and their fans, desperately want a piece of that pie...and their two best chances of having those billion dollar films are gone...BvS and Justice League.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker saved me the trouble of responding. Great post. Thanks man.
verslibre wrote: RWF even gloated about watching Wonder Woman without paying for it while it was still in theaters.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:verslibre wrote: RWF even gloated about watching Wonder Woman without paying for it while it was still in theaters.
There were 3 good reasons for that.
The dead in the water MOS, the dead in the water BvS, and the dead in the water SS.
These DC wannabe franchises have the life expectancy of a fishfly. Why would I throw good money after bad? Be like you? Pay to see a shitty movie and then bloviate about how good it is? Lol
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