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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:58 am

Boomchild wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Let's all cry a tear for a bunch of murderous terrorists that were mistreated. Fuck them all. We have been too kind! If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions? First of all, these cretins are animals and until they treat people like human beings, we should not treat them as such either. Again, Fuck em!


Again, the reaction of this administration and those in lock step with it is not surprising. Look at how the administration are just releasing the detainees from GTMO. They are supposedly low level or no level threats. Yet the leader of ISIS was once held at GTMO and released for the very same reason. We now see how that worked out. No matter how you slice it, war is ugly and some can't accept it. If we applied the politically correct views of today during WWII something tells me that war would have come out differently and not in our or the worlds favor.


WWII would have turned out differently for sure, no doubt about that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby AR » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:15 am

The media now wants us to forget the police, Bill Cosby, extreme weather and focus on the CIA interrogation methods. Unless the CIA's methods include beheadings, stonings or the elimination of women's rights most people in the United States are not going to give a flying fuck.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:54 am

AR wrote:The media now wants us to forget the police, Bill Cosby, extreme weather and focus on the CIA interrogation methods. Unless the CIA's methods include beheadings, stonings or the elimination of women's rights most people in the United States are not going to give a flying fuck.


You got a good point there AR. Very good point indeed.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby tater1977 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:09 am

President Obama on Tuesday rejected criticism that he has changed his position on immigration and deportations — and dismissed a lawsuit filed by 20 states challenging his recent changes to immigration policy.

In the interview, Fusion’s Jorge Ramos challenged Obama on past statements in which the president said he didn’t have the legal authority to suspend deportations because he wasn’t a “king” or an “emperor.” Ramos said Obama did “just that” last month, when he took unilateral action that will shield up to 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation.


President Obama spars with Jorge Ramos on Immigration

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:11 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Here's something new. Pelosi reading a Bill before she passes it.

http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-suppor ... 31529.html


This proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the bitch is no different then the corrupt IRS. She places greater scrutiny on items submitted in which she suspects are of the political party she oppose.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:24 am

Monker wrote:The reasons there are treaties against torture are to attempt to protect our own soldiers who are captured.


On paper it sounds good. But it would seem that some want it to be selectively enforced. What about the people who have been captured and tortured by these terrorist groups? It has also been reported that torture goes on in prisons in some Middle Eastern Countries. Similar reports of torture occurring in North Korea. Where is the U.N. and the world on taking action on those situations? To the best of my recollection a real spotlight or action hasn't addressed them. Seems to me there is a fair amount of others that needed to be charged and brought to trial first. After all, they have been getting away with it longer then those accused of torture in the CIA.


Monker wrote:Those involved in the CIA should be brought up on charges and brought to trial in a world court in the same way the world brought Nazi's to trial. All those who are saying we should kill all muslims are acting more like Hitler than Obama ever has. Maybe if some Americans are executed for war crimes, you will see how serious this discussion is.


Before we address those involved at the CIA, how about first putting the captured terrorists on trial in the same fashion as the Nuremberg Trials? BTW, whose saying we should kill all Muslims? Maybe if the terrorists were executed for their war crimes the whole world be more serious about that subject. Seems to me people are more quick condemn those that are trying to protect the U.S. and easily sympathize with those that have attacked (or cooperated with) us, our allies and interests. As far as execution goes, the world would be up in arms if we executed the terrorists after trial but it would be O.K. to do it to a member of the CIA? That's some interesting logic.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:29 am

AR wrote: Unless the CIA's methods include beheadings, stonings or the elimination of women's rights most people in the United States are not going to give a flying fuck.


In other words, there are those that want to wield so called justice in a selective manner.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:38 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Here's something new. Pelosi reading a Bill before she passes it.

http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-suppor ... 31529.html


The real joke is that the budget bill contains so many pages that for anyone to be able read the whole thing would have to read it at 200 words per minute non stop between now and when they have to vote on it. Which of course is not possible. No wonder it is so easy for politicians to slip in pork belly etc. into these things.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:43 am

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If Islam forbade homosexuals you'd really hear an outcry..

oh wait


Or lets say deprived women of their rights and equal treatment as human beings.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:43 am

JBlake wrote:Hahaha, yep. And "If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions?" Nope, they'd just do what Democrap / Liberals do best.....blame it on Bush and/or the Republicans, as in, "if they didn't do this, the terrorists wouldn't have done this to me...." That's just how sick and demented Demacraps and Liberals are. Democraps and Liberals are the portion of society who has been brainwashed by the political Democraps and liberal media.


Spoken like a true fake Conservative. Here's what every American, regardless of party, should be saying...

One of the reasons repeatedly stated by President George W. Bush for the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was the maintenance of “torture rooms” by Saddam Hussein. While making this very argument, Bush was secretly authorizing CIA agents to engage in similar unlawful behavior for similar purposes: intelligence and deterrence....If the allegations in the report are true, we have war criminals, perjurers, computer hackers and thugs on the government payroll...All torture is criminal under all circumstances — under treaties to which the U.S. is a party, under the Constitution that governs the government wherever it goes, and under federal law.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/andr ... t-the-cia/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:31 am

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Hmmmm..lets go wayback shall we? :wink:

Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002

By Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen
The Washington Post

Sunday 09 December 2007

In meetings, spy panels' chiefs did not protest, officials say.

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

"The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Congressional leaders from both parties would later seize on waterboarding as a symbol of the worst excesses of the Bush administration's counterterrorism effort. The CIA last week admitted that videotape of an interrogation of one of the waterboarded detainees was destroyed in 2005 against the advice of Justice Department and White House officials, provoking allegations that its actions were illegal and the destruction was a coverup.

Yet long before "waterboarding" entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers about 30 private briefings, some of which included descriptions of that technique and other harsh interrogation methods, according to interviews with multiple U.S. officials with firsthand knowledge.

With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).

Individual lawmakers' recollections of the early briefings varied dramatically, but officials present during the meetings described the reaction as mostly quiet acquiescence, if not outright support. "Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing," said Goss, who chaired the House intelligence committee from 1997 to 2004 and then served as CIA director from 2004 to 2006. "And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement." There was no objecting, no hand-wringing. The attitude was, 'We don't care what you do to those guys as long as you get the information you need to protect the American people.' "



Imagine that, Pelosi, Harman, Graham and Rockerfeller, all D's, knew about this for years. So did Di-Fi, the instigator of this new report, She's just pissed cause the CIA spied on her as well. They spied on her because they knew she was going to spill State secrets, they know you cannot trust these Democrats. They were right...Now...how do we get Gruber and Benghazi and Obamacare et al off of the Front Page after we got our asses thumped in November...lets go back to hating Bush and his secret torture rooms which we knew about 12 years ago, and approved of with a wink.



Exactly!

Thanks FF for providing factual/historical information that Demacraps/libs try and sweep under the carpet.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:16 am

JBlake wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Hmmmm..lets go wayback shall we? :wink:

Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002

By Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen
The Washington Post

Sunday 09 December 2007

In meetings, spy panels' chiefs did not protest, officials say.

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

"The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Congressional leaders from both parties would later seize on waterboarding as a symbol of the worst excesses of the Bush administration's counterterrorism effort. The CIA last week admitted that videotape of an interrogation of one of the waterboarded detainees was destroyed in 2005 against the advice of Justice Department and White House officials, provoking allegations that its actions were illegal and the destruction was a coverup.

Yet long before "waterboarding" entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers about 30 private briefings, some of which included descriptions of that technique and other harsh interrogation methods, according to interviews with multiple U.S. officials with firsthand knowledge.

With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).

Individual lawmakers' recollections of the early briefings varied dramatically, but officials present during the meetings described the reaction as mostly quiet acquiescence, if not outright support. "Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing," said Goss, who chaired the House intelligence committee from 1997 to 2004 and then served as CIA director from 2004 to 2006. "And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement." There was no objecting, no hand-wringing. The attitude was, 'We don't care what you do to those guys as long as you get the information you need to protect the American people.' "



Imagine that, Pelosi, Harman, Graham and Rockerfeller, all D's, knew about this for years. So did Di-Fi, the instigator of this new report, She's just pissed cause the CIA spied on her as well. They spied on her because they knew she was going to spill State secrets, they know you cannot trust these Democrats. They were right...Now...how do we get Gruber and Benghazi and Obamacare et al off of the Front Page after we got our asses thumped in November...lets go back to hating Bush and his secret torture rooms which we knew about 12 years ago, and approved of with a wink.



Exactly!

Thanks FF for providing factual/historical information that Demacraps/libs try and sweep under the carpet.


Who cares? Glad to know you guys hold the opinions of pussy liberals in such high esteem. Just because Nancy Pelosi approves of something, that suddenly makes it legal? :roll: And in fact, Rockefeller has said of those water-boarding briefings, "The briefings I received offered little or no insight into the CIA’s programs. Questions for follow-ups were rejected and at times I was not allowed to consult with legal counsel.”
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:08 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:AND, the Lerner emails reveal, .........

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/ ... ls-reveal/


Just what will be Mr. Obama's response to this latest news? Maybe it will be like this:

There's not a smigin of... oh wait.. I'll get back to you on that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:39 am

JBlake wrote:
Monker wrote:
Those involved in the CIA should be brought up on charges and brought to trial in a world court in the same way the world brought Nazi's to trial. All those who are saying we should kill all muslims are acting more like Hitler than Obama ever has. Maybe if some Americans are executed for war crimes, you will see how serious this discussion is.


You shouldn't compare what the Nazi's did to Jews to what the CIA is doing to confirmed terrorist actively participating in the initiating, planning, and execution of attacks on Americans.


Why not? Some of those torture techniques were USED BY NAZI GERMANY against captured soldiers, the Allies called it torture, AND THEY WERE PROSECUTED FOR IT.

NOWHERE did I mention Jews in what I said, and you quoted.

Plus the CIA is on a fact finding mission to prevent further terrorist activities.


So what. That doesn't mean the agency can sacrifice the moral dignity of the country. An international tribunal should be created, a trial should be held, and anybody found guilty should be executed.

Now.... how many of these same individuals, who are up in arms about what the CIA does with the terrorists, would they have the same opinion about the CIA doing the same thing to the Nazi's during the late '30's and early 40's in preventing future attacks on the Jews?


You are making shit up...a fictional history.

HOWEVER, any American who supports their country lowering its moral dignity to the level of Nazi Germany should really think about leaving the country. Seriously.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:59 am

Boomchild wrote:On paper it sounds good. But it would seem that some want it to be selectively enforced. What about the people who have been captured and tortured by these terrorist groups? It has also been reported that torture goes on in prisons in some Middle Eastern Countries. Similar reports of torture occurring in North Korea. Where is the U.N. and the world on taking action on those situations? To the best of my recollection a real spotlight or action hasn't addressed them. Seems to me there is a fair amount of others that needed to be charged and brought to trial first. After all, they have been getting away with it longer then those accused of torture in the CIA.


What the fuck is wrong with you people? You seriously believe in a "He did it first, so I can do it to!" policy over something like this? As an American, I do not give a damn what some third world country does, or a rogue band of morons. I care what THIS country does. The United States acting like a third world nation is fucking stupid.

Before we address those involved at the CIA, how about first putting the captured terrorists on trial in the same fashion as the Nuremberg Trials?


go ahead...doesn't bother me any. Bring them to the US and put them on trial in our court system....since they are not officially "prisoners of war", that's what needs to be done. Or, redefine them as prisoners of war and try them in military court. Again, it doesn't bother me any.

Who does it bother? Republicans...they refuse the terrorists coming to the US in any way, especially to enter our prison system before trial. And, redefining them as prisoners of war and using military trials seem to be taking FOREVER.

BTW, whose saying we should kill all Muslims?


Oh, please...go back and read the posts...That has been repeated here a few times over the years.

Maybe if the terrorists were executed for their war crimes


ACCUSED terrorists. A trial has to be held first.

Seems to me people are more quick condemn those that are trying to protect the U.S.


Damn right...I'll condemn anybody who is acting like Hitler. Every time Cheney speaks about this subject, he sounds more and more like a Nazi.

and easily sympathize with those that have attacked (or cooperated with) us, our allies and interests.


I have not sympathized with terrorists - at all.

What I see is people defending their political beliefs and party at the expense of the morality of their country. VERY sad. You self described patriots should be the FIRST in line to condemn such things.

As far as execution goes, the world would be up in arms if we executed the terrorists after trial but it would be O.K. to do it to a member of the CIA? That's some interesting logic.


Why do you people make shit up? You don't know how the world would react in either case.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:18 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
AR wrote: Unless the CIA's methods include beheadings, stonings or the elimination of women's rights most people in the United States are not going to give a flying fuck.


In other words, there are those that want to wield so called justice in a selective manner.



If Islam forbade homosexuals you'd really hear an outcry..

oh wait


They don't need to 'forbade homosexuals" (whatever that means)....They just deny that it exists, in their country.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:12 pm

Butt fucking, bone smoking rag heads. :mrgreen:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:25 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Butt fucking, bone smoking rag heads. :mrgreen:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:35 pm

Monker wrote:What the fuck is wrong with you people? You seriously believe in a "He did it first, so I can do it to!" policy over something like this? As an American, I do not give a damn what some third world country does, or a rogue band of morons. I care what THIS country does. The United States acting like a third world nation is fucking stupid.


You missed the point of my response. I was talking about how people are up in arms about CIA being accused of torture tactics and ready to execute someone when torture has been going on in other parts of the world for decades. It seems to me the average public has not been as vocal about it as they now are with the CIA accusations.

Monker wrote:go ahead...doesn't bother me any. Bring them to the US and put them on trial in our court system....since they are not officially "prisoners of war", that's what needs to be done. Or, redefine them as prisoners of war and try them in military court. Again, it doesn't bother me any.

Who does it bother? Republicans...they refuse the terrorists coming to the US in any way, especially to enter our prison system before trial. And, redefining them as prisoners of war and using military trials seem to be taking FOREVER.


They should be tried as prisoners of war in a military court or in the same fashion as the WWII trials and it should not be taking forever.


Monker wrote:Oh, please...go back and read the posts...That has been repeated here a few times over the years.


Oh, please... Just because it has does not mean that everyone that posts here has that viewpoint. Your trying to assert that it's the general consensus. It's not.



Monker wrote:ACCUSED terrorists. A trial has to be held first.


Did I say that they should be executed without trial? I didn't.



Monker wrote:What I see is people defending their political beliefs and party at the expense of the morality of their country. VERY sad. You self described patriots should be the FIRST in line to condemn such things.


Please tell me where I directly said that I defend or support what the CIA has been accused of? My point was that it seems to me there are those that want to apply morality and justice selectively. When you make a statement that you could care less if torture is or was going on in other areas of the world, that's being selective. Seems to me your view on torture is politically motivated since you so easily seem to to dismiss others in the world that are guilty of the same thing.


Monker wrote:Why do you people make shit up? You don't know how the world would react in either case.


Do you pay attention to how some in the public react to how some states still use the death penalty? Simply based on that, people would protest and condemn such a sentence. So my comment is not far fetched as you so like to believe.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:23 pm

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Obama wrote: " I'm getting pretty good at killing people."
Obama didn't need to run through this preamble. Everyone knew the litany of his achievements. Foremost on that day, with the fresh news about al-Awlaki, it seemed the president was pondering the drone program that he had expanded so dramatically and with such lethal results, as well as the death of Bin Laden, which was still resonating worldwide months later. "Turns out I'm really good at killing people," Obama said quietly, "Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine."



Where is the outrage? Hmmm? :roll:


It doesn't apply when it comes to B.O.. Why you ask? Because he is "The Chosen One" or "The Messiah" he can do no wrong. Besides everything that has gone wrong since the dawn of time can be traced to Bush and or Cheney.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:55 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Even though Warren will be just like Obama, as would Hillary, they "will be nothing like Obama". The Press will try to elect the next President again.


I don't agree with this at all. Warren is pretty much Dennis Kucinich in a skirt. Hillary is a Lehman Bros. liberal. Huge difference. The media would destroy Warren if she actually ran.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Will Gruber be right? Are voters stupid?


Do you really need to ask?

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:02 am

Fact Finder wrote:Where is the outrage? Hmmm? :roll:


I've read and heard plenty of outrage from civil libertarians and liberals over the expanded use of drones, wire tapping, US assassination program etc. Has it reached a fever pitch like under Bush? No, but more than a decade after 9/11 and the expansion of homeland security, a degree of complacency is sure to set in among the citizenry. Just the way it is. Welcome to the new American reality. Be careful of what you think, what you say, and who you say it to....
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:23 am

So Stinkus wants to buddy up with Cuba. So he must have found out that they'll vote Demacrap if they are in the US? Here's a better idea, deport Stinkus and family to Cuba.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:53 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The Man Who Busted Gruber Speaks Out, Reveals $250 Billion Obamacare Tax Grab
Katie Pavlich | Dec 16, 2014



The man who dug up the now infamous videos of MIT professor and Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber talking about a lack of transparency and "stupid Americans" is speaking out about a hidden agenda in the legislation that hasn't been fully exposed yet.

During an interview with Project Veritas' James O'Keefe, little known Philadelphia financial advisor Rich Weinstein makes three main points:

-Obamacare is a $250 billion hidden tax grab per year on individual Americans and their families

-Obamacare advocates make it seem like costs are shifted onto insurance companies, when really they're shifted onto healthcare consumers. Further, Weinstein points out that so-called "cadillac tax" isn't reserved for expensive plans, but instead eventually hits all plans. The "cadillac tax" in Obamacare is not applied directly to the consumer but indirectly through the insurance companies. This way, the consumer blames insurance companies for increased costs instead of the government for a massive tax grab hidden in Obamacare.

-Obamacare isn't a "mess" or a "disaster" of a bill, but rather a brilliant, well structured piece of legislation with very deliberate language and components.

Be sure to watch the whole thing, it's well worth your time.

"I just wanted the American people to know what's going on," Weinsten said.


Thanks for the insight. However, most all of us with a brain in our head and a functioning moral compass already knew what this Obamacare really was. Dickweed Stinkus fooled only the democrap tools. A tax and a redistribution tool under so called "healthcare". Check out posts on this thread over the years in regards to what was said and by whom and this should confirm who on this forum knew this, way before Gruber surfaced.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:00 am

JBlake wrote:So Stinkus wants to buddy up with Cuba. So he must have found out that they'll vote Demacrap if they are in the US? Here's a better idea, deport Stinkus and family to Cuba.


So it's OK to have normalized relations with China and Saudi Arabia, but not some tiny little island? Like the GOP, you're stuck in the past.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:01 am

JBlake wrote:A tax and a redistribution tool under so called "healthcare".


The re-distribution of money from the healthy to cover the costs of the sick is how insurance works, dumbass.
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Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:51 am

Fact Finder wrote:Republicans clinched their 247th U.S. House seat on Wednesday when GOP challenger Martha McSally officially unseated Rep. Ron Barber (D-Ariz.), bringing to an end the final unresolved congressional election of the midterms and handing the GOP its largest majority in the chamber since the Great Depression.

McSally's narrow win, which came after a recount, means that House Republicans will begin the 114th Congress with a 247-188 advantage over Democrats. It is the largest GOP majority since Republicans claimed 270 seats in the 1928 election.


Awesome!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:40 am

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:59 am

Fact Finder wrote:[We're not talking about re-distribution from healthy to sick here though are we? This re-distribution is purely going from rich to poor. I dare you to go to healthcare.gov and click the link that says "see plans and prices". Then enter in any fictional 2 people of the same age from the same zip code. Enter one with a $20,000 yearly income, and then enter the exact same info but put in $75,000 income or more for the other and see what happens.

Example: Male #1 age 45, non smoker, zip code 45101, income $20,000 yearly. Cheapest Bronze Plan is $18 a month, cheapest Silver Plan is $75 a month and cheapest Gold Plan is $132 a month.

Example: Male #2 age 45, non smoker, zip code 45101, income $75,000 yearly. Cheapest Bronze Plan is $245 a month, cheapest Silver Plan is $303 a month and cheapest Gold Plan is $360 a month.

This is no different than McDonalds charging the $20k man $5.99 for a Big Mac Meal and then charging the $75k man $15.99 for the same meal. If this shit happened in everyday life there would be holy hell to pay and the lawsuits would never end, and dare I say it you would be leading the charge to change it back to the right way.


Exactly. This is just the Demacraps way of demotivating people to 1) not work and 2) not take care of themselves, because the hard working health conscious individuals will be forced to foot their medical bills. But at the same time, getting the government off the hook of footing the bill in government healthcare funding to care for all the unhealthy dirtbags they import into this country for their vote.

A democrap like the few posting on this thread looks at Stinkuscare as a windfall for them. They don't have to work and they don't have to eat and live a healthy responsible lifestyle. It's all paid for. It's the gravy motherfucking train. I tell you what though, one of these days each and every one of them will be laying tits up on a gurney and it will be a "and this time we didn't forget the gravy" situation.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:29 am

Fact Finder wrote:Hey, let's normalize relations... :roll:

Federal prosecutors in Miami were prepared to indict Raul Castro as the head of a major cocaine smuggling conspiracy in 1993, but the Clinton Administration Justice Department overruled them, current and former Justice Department officials tell ABC News.

The officials say Castro, as Cuban Defense Minister, permitted Colombian drug lords to pay for the use of Cuban waters and airstrips as staging grounds for smuggling runs into the United States in the 1980s and early 1990s.

In Washington,” said a former Justice Department official with direct knowledge of the case. “There were numerous national security and intelligence issues that would have made the case difficult,” said Tom Cash, the former head of the Drug Enforcement Administration office in Miami. Convicted Colombian drug boss Carlos Lehder of the Medellin cartel testified in a 1991 federal trial that he met twice in Havana with Raul Castro to arrange safe passage for cocaine flights over Cuban airspace.

The draft indictment, as described by a former Justice Department official who saw it, listed Raul Castro as the leader of a conspiracy involved in smuggling seven and a half tons of cocaine into the United States over a 10-year period. At least a dozen other Cubans were also to be indicted. In 1989, a top Cuban General, Arnoldo Ochoa, was convicted by a Cuban court and ordered executed with three other military officers for their roles in drug smuggling.

Cuban waters continue to be used by drug smugglers, according to federal law enforcement officials. “The smugglers know that the U.S. Coast Guard can’t go after them in Cuban waters,” one official said. There was no immediate comment from the Cuban Interest Section in Washington, D.C. In the past, Fidel Castro has denied that his country or his brother had any role in protecting drug smugglers.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... astro_coc/


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