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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:03 am

Memorex wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:A YEAR of Clinton lies about the 'golden showers' dossier exposed as Hillary's lawyer is under fire for falsely denying paying for it

It's claimed that Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias and other Democrats falsely denied to reporters their involvement in the 'dirty dossier'

Two New York Times journalists say they were lied to at every turn

It's now established that Clinton lawyer Marc Elias arranged for the campaign and the Democratic Party to pay a dirt-digging firm to produce the dossier

'Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year,' Times reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4wXRosnxw


Isn't everything her and her team does with sanctimony?

Single. Most. Corrupt. Politician. On. The. Planet. Period.


Why do you guys care? You support a President who daily proves that it is not a crime to lie to press, at times he lies dozens of times a day. Hillary MAY be the most corrupt politician ever...don't know about that. But, Trump is the most prolific LIAR this nation has ever had as President.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:07 am

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What I did was repeat what *I* said about a year and a half ago when you people brought this up the first time. NOTHING has really changed. Nothing came out of it then, nothing will come out of it now. There is STILL no evidence to prove Clinton did anything wrong. Period.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... and-urani/

Of course Republicans are going to 'investigate'...it's just to distract from what Muehler is doing. It is how Trump has ran his presidency from the start. It's how he ran his campaign from the start. When he is faced with an issue, he creates another issue to move the discussion on...and nothing is ever resolved because of it. The problem for him is, Muehler is not 'discussing' this, he is investigating...and the latest BS distraction is irrelevant.


And, here is the updated Snopes article:
https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton- ... ssia-deal/
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:19 am

FEC Complaint Alleges Hillary, DNC Broke Election Law By Not Disclosing Trump-Russia Dossier Funding

http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/docu ... e-disclose

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:23 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I've given up hope that some day Monker might pull his head out like MANY liberals have. Yes folks, he has now proven he's that stupid. Hey, The Clintons got 145 million for nothing. But Monkers right, the Clintons did not personally give the Russians Uranium. They got with the DOJ, CIA, Obama White House, FBI and made damn sure the Russians got 20% of OUR Uranium. Sold it to a country that at any given time, has 1200 or more nuclear weapons aimed at us.But to Monker, that's just fine. A good thing and no big deal. Do you think Monker figured out that CNN has been lying for the past year? I don't.


More liberal traps and lies exposed.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/24/ ... ign=buffer


That's how pay to play is done. Then you have what was revealed in the emails. Clinton Foundation staff working with Hillary's SOS staff to arrange meetings with her for big donors to the foundation. All these things reveled yet it appears that indictment is not in her future.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 am

Monker wrote:
Why do you guys care? You support a President who daily proves that it is not a crime to lie to press, at times he lies dozens of times a day. Hillary MAY be the most corrupt politician ever...don't know about that. But, Trump is the most prolific LIAR this nation has ever had as President.


Here's Obama's unkept campaign promises... meaning lies.. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... se-broken/

Point being, all politicians lie...

Stop being so obtuse.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:49 am

Obviously, you did not read any of those fact checking articles.

The $145 million.
As said in PolitiFact:

while we concluded that nine people related the company did at some point donate to the Clinton Foundation, we found that the bulk of the $145 million came from Giustra. Guistra said he sold all of his stakes in Uranium One in the fall of 2007, "at least 18 months before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state" and three years before the Russian deal.

As written by Snopes:
Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman

the Clintons did not personally give the Russians Uranium. They got with the DOJ, CIA, Obama White House, FBI


WRONG. As stated in the Snopes article,

The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

Again, you are spreading LIES.

and made damn sure the Russians got 20% of OUR Uranium. Sold it to a country that at any given time, has 1200 or more nuclear weapons aimed at us.But to Monker, that's just fine. A good thing and no big deal. Do you think Monker figured out that CNN has been lying for the past year? I don't.


First of all, I did not say it was "just fine" or "a good thing". it's not my place to judge. But, as for the rest of your rant...implying the sale was a potential security risk...from Snopes:

(an excerpt from a statement from the NRC...not the committee Hillary was on, but another entity that had to approve of the sale)

NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.

(IE: The US still controled the mines until they are SHUT DOWN...and Russia could not export the uranium outside of the US. Therefore, Russia did not "control" anything)

From Politifact:

Russia’s purchase of the company "had as much of an impact on national security as it would have if they set the money on fire," said Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear nonproliferation expert at the Middlebury Institute and former director at the New America Foundation, in an interview with PolitiFact last year. "That’s probably why (CFIUS and the NRC) approved it."

(There was NO risk to national security. How could there be when the uranium could not leave the US anyway?)

NONE of what you have said is evidence that Clinton did anything wrong. It's just more BS, and LIES....and the facts PROVE they are lies.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:53 am

slucero wrote:
Monker wrote:
Why do you guys care? You support a President who daily proves that it is not a crime to lie to press, at times he lies dozens of times a day. Hillary MAY be the most corrupt politician ever...don't know about that. But, Trump is the most prolific LIAR this nation has ever had as President.


Here's Obama's unkept campaign promises... meaning lies.. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... se-broken/

Point being, all politicians lie...

Stop being so obtuse.


I'm not. If you really keep track, Trump tells this many outright LIES in about week. That's not an exaggeration, it's not being "obtuse". It is a FACT. I don't even pay attention much to what he says because every time he says ANYTHING it is a lie. And, they are blatant, intentional LIES. How can ANYBODY believe ANYTHING he says now? He could come out and say he dyes his hair blond every week....and I would not believe him.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:16 am

Monker wrote:
slucero wrote:
Monker wrote:
Why do you guys care? You support a President who daily proves that it is not a crime to lie to press, at times he lies dozens of times a day. Hillary MAY be the most corrupt politician ever...don't know about that. But, Trump is the most prolific LIAR this nation has ever had as President.


Here's Obama's unkept campaign promises... meaning lies.. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... se-broken/

Point being, all politicians lie...

Stop being so obtuse.


I'm not. If you really keep track, Trump tells this many outright LIES in about week. That's not an exaggeration, it's not being "obtuse". It is a FACT. I don't even pay attention much to what he says because every time he says ANYTHING it is a lie. And, they are blatant, intentional LIES. How can ANYBODY believe ANYTHING he says now? He could come out and say he dyes his hair blond every week....and I would not believe him.



...if, as you say, you: "don't even pay attention much to what he says because every time he says ANYTHING it is a lie."


That, by definition is being obtuse.


If you really want to judge a political leader.. especially an elected one.. because they all do lie.. do it on what he/she DOES... not what he/she says...


Using that threshhold... the jury is still out on President Trump... but looks about to weigh in on former Sec. Clinton....

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:26 am

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These are the owners/founders of Snopes. Just saying.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:40 am

Monker wrote:
WRONG. As stated in the Snopes article,

The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

Again, you are spreading LIES.


At the time of the deal, Holder sat on the CFIUS. So did Geithner and Hillary herself. Other Obama cabinet members also sat on it. You are dishonestly making it sound like the CFIUS is non-partisan and somehow isolated from political pressure. Hell, Obama's own FBI was subservient to the DNC! Everything was politicized from top to bottom.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:55 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:
WRONG. As stated in the Snopes article,

The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

Again, you are spreading LIES.


At the time of the deal, Holder sat on the CFIUS. So did Geithner and Hillary herself. Other Obama cabinet members also sat on it. You are dishonestly making it sound like the CFIUS is non-partisan and somehow isolated from political pressure. Hell, Obama's own FBI was subservient to the DNC! Everything was politicized from top to bottom.


What I am saying VERY DIRECTLY is that if even if the CFIUS did not recommend the sale, Obama STILL could have done it. It was NEVER in Clinton's hands. In fact, the NRC could have not recommended it\..or, the Utah energy commissioner could have not recommended it.

Just because the State Dept. or the Justice Dept., etc are on the committee does NOT mean that Secretary of those dept. sit in on committee meetings and recommendations. As stated above, Jose Fernandez had the JOB of representing the State Department in CFIUS. Where is the proof that CLINTON had any meaning ful discussion within the committee and NOT Fernandez, who had the job. And, where is the PROOF that Holder was directly involved?

The entire Uranium One thing is BULLSHIT FAKE NEWS and LIES....and it is PROVABLE by the facts.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:05 am

Monker wrote:The entire Uranium One thing is BULLSHIT FAKE NEWS and LIES....and it is PROVABLE by the facts.



Facts such as "Hillary had permission to use a private server"?
Or how about this one - "it is the FBI leading this...not some Democrat led witchhunt."
Boy, that didn't age well, did it? :lol:
On nearly every issue, you couldn't be more wrong.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:04 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:When was Snopes posting this? Way before the new news got out. Very weak Monker.


You don't even know the history of what you are arguing. Almost ALL of the stuff I have posted here goes back more than a year ago when the book "Clinton Cash" was published. It contained the original accusations of donations and quid-pro-quo. The original Snopes article (and Politifact) was published almost a year ago. FF also posted it here....and I looked up and read these very articles. They were then updated in the past few days to include bits about the informant and such - which did not change anything.

I read about it, in multiple sites and articles. That is how I know exactly where to go to prove this is complete BULLSHIT and LIES. Uranium One will NEVER be more than it is right now...a wet dream and fantasy for the alt-right believers. For those who live in the REAL world, it will mean NOTHING.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:17 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Notice how he stays away from his "Comrad Trump" and Trump golden showers" remarks he freely made two months ago.?


I NEVER made repeated direct references to the dossier, such as "golden showers". That is a flat out LIE. I'm not even sure I specifically talked about the dossier...or Trump's accused fettish for peeing prostitutes. I did say "comrade" in reference to Trump. So what? That has more to do with his ties to Russia in general and not a reference towards the dossier. And, I changed it to "your fuhrer" after he expressed how "fine people" could march with Nazis. When the House debate for impeachment starts, I'll probably go back to saying "your comrade Donald Judas Trump...."
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:47 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Notice how he stays away from his "Comrad Trump" and Trump golden showers" remarks he freely made two months ago.?


I NEVER made repeated direct references to the dossier, such as "golden showers". That is a flat out LIE. I'm not even sure I specifically talked about the dossier...or Trump's accused fettish for peeing prostitutes. I did say "comrade" in reference to Trump. So what? That has more to do with his ties to Russia in general and not a reference towards the dossier. And, I changed it to "your fuhrer" after he expressed how "fine people" could march with Nazis. When the House debate for impeachment starts, I'll probably go back to saying "your comrade Donald Judas Trump...."


Bullshit, which is pretty much what you've posted the past year. Can't blame you, you just passed it on from the main stream media.


It is NOT bullshit. Find and quote all of these posts where I mention "golden showers" then. They do not exist, except in your alternate reality, crazy, fucked up mind of yours.

And, I have NEVER said, "Don't blame me, I'm just passing on the news..." In fact, that is what FF has said in the past when I have called him on some of his BS links and copy/pastes.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:49 am

Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:When was Snopes posting this? Way before the new news got out. Very weak Monker.


You don't even know the history of what you are arguing. Almost ALL of the stuff I have posted here goes back more than a year ago when the book "Clinton Cash" was published. It contained the original accusations of donations and quid-pro-quo. The original Snopes article (and Politifact) was published almost a year ago. FF also posted it here....and I looked up and read these very articles. They were then updated in the past few days to include bits about the informant and such - which did not change anything.

I read about it, in multiple sites and articles. That is how I know exactly where to go to prove this is complete BULLSHIT and LIES. Uranium One will NEVER be more than it is right now...a wet dream and fantasy for the alt-right believers. For those who live in the REAL world, it will mean NOTHING.



You are citing old articles. Uranium is back in the news because of new revelations (please try to keep up)

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... nistration

It is also pretty rich for you to chide others for believing in bullshit when you fell for the "Russia hacked us!!!" lie hook, line, and sinker.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:01 am

Fact Finder wrote:The Hillary Campaign & Uranium One - Wikileaks, John Podesta

From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2015-04-29 13:47

Subject: It's out there

Fyi

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Begin forwarded message:

From: Tony Carrk tcarrk@hillaryclinton.com
Date: April 29, 2015 at 11:25:34 AM EDT
To: Jennifer Palmieri jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com, Brian Fallon
bfallon@hillaryclinton.com

Subject: It's out there

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/29/firm- ... anium-one/


Speaking of Wikileaks emails, don't forget the Hillary campaign email that said they wanted to play up Trump's Russian ties. Next thing you know, you have the DNC (which acted as the defacto Clinton campaign) funding the dossier. This bogus dossier is then used by Obama's FBI to get FISA warrants to listen in on Trump associates. Coincidence? There is alot to unpack here and multiple levels of criminality.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:26 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:When was Snopes posting this? Way before the new news got out. Very weak Monker.


You don't even know the history of what you are arguing. Almost ALL of the stuff I have posted here goes back more than a year ago when the book "Clinton Cash" was published. It contained the original accusations of donations and quid-pro-quo. The original Snopes article (and Politifact) was published almost a year ago. FF also posted it here....and I looked up and read these very articles. They were then updated in the past few days to include bits about the informant and such - which did not change anything.

I read about it, in multiple sites and articles. That is how I know exactly where to go to prove this is complete BULLSHIT and LIES. Uranium One will NEVER be more than it is right now...a wet dream and fantasy for the alt-right believers. For those who live in the REAL world, it will mean NOTHING.



You are citing old articles. Uranium is back in the news because of new revelations (please try to keep up)

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... nistration

It is also pretty rich for you to chide others for believing in bullshit when you fell for the "Russia hacked us!!!" lie hook, line, and sinker.


LOL....you need to keep up with the thread. I already explicitly told KC that these articles were written about a year ago and then UPDATED A FEW DAYS AGO TO INCLUDE STUFF ABOUT THE INFORMANT, ETC. It hasn't been talked about because NOTHING has been argued regarding the new info.

If you are going to reply to a thread, at least read it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:08 pm

Muller's canoe just went upstream without a paddle...

The DOJ just lifted a gag order on a special informant, who has just implicated Rosenstein and Mueller.

It's now starting to look as if Mueller has never looked at anything Trump-related the whole time because he knows its a lie. But since this investigation deals with EVERYTHING Russia related, he was appointed to cover their tracks/destroying evidence on anything related to them and most likely even with the Clinton's and Obama.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:37 am

Monker wrote:If you are going to reply to a thread, at least read it.



I read everything. There is movement on this story and it is not all old clickbait bullshit, as you would have us believe.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:17 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sessions on the IRS.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyob ... ign=buffer



"There is no excuse for this conduct," he said. "Hundreds of organizations were affected by these actions, and they deserve an apology from the IRS. We hope that today's settlement makes clear that this abuse of power will not be tolerated."


What a load of crap! The American people don't want apologies, they want justice. There you have it, the perpetrators of these crimes are free from prosecution for their crimes. This is what happens when you appoint a politician to the justice system. For me, Sessions has just shown his true colors.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:06 pm

Should be an interesting week to come. Mueller has filed his first charges - arrests as early as Monday. Finally we may find out what all this time and money has been spent on. Flynn? Manafort? I'd say surely no Democrats (cause Mueller) but Flynn is and Manafort has seemed to do more dirty deeds for Democrats than Republicans. Then you have all the Hillary/DNC/FBI/Obama Admin stuff going on. Funny that just as that gains traction, the news cycle will swiftly shift. Funny how that works.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:55 pm

Memorex wrote:Should be an interesting week to come. Mueller has filed his first charges - arrests as early as Monday. Finally we may find out what all this time and money has been spent on. Flynn? Manafort?


LOL...wrong. At the point I write this, we do not know ANYTHING specific. It could be one person charged, it could be several. You don't know. But, what I do know is this does not mean the investigation is over. They are going to want to put pressure on people to turn against Trump...and this could easily be part of that.

I'd say surely no Democrats (cause Mueller) but Flynn is and Manafort has seemed to do more dirty deeds for Democrats than Republicans. Then you have all the Hillary/DNC/FBI/Obama Admin stuff going on. Funny that just as that gains traction, the news cycle will swiftly shift. Funny how that works.


LOL...you don't believe Trump has known this was coming and that is why he pushed to have that informants gag removed? The game just can't be played that way, could it? If you were paying even the slightest amount of attention you should have seen this coming...especially after Manafort was raided by the FBI.

Trump has been trying to distract over, and over, and over again...but, as I have tried to say...Muelher is not distracted, he just continues to investigate. Therefore, eventually, IMO, Trump will fire Muehler...especially now indictments are being handed down and people like Flynn and Manafort will be pressured to turn against him.....and then there is Jr. and Kushner which I am sure he feels obligated to protect...either by firing Muehler or pardon, or both. And, when that starts happening, Republicans will start turning against him - more just Corker, Flake, and McCain.

Trump is in deep shit, and has been since he fired Comey....funny that you all can't admit it. Trump will be in jail and you'll still think he's President. If he is in jail, at least America will start becoming Great again.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:00 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Memorex wrote:Should be an interesting week to come. Mueller has filed his first charges - arrests as early as Monday. Finally we may find out what all this time and money has been spent on. Flynn? Manafort? I'd say surely no Democrats (cause Mueller) but Flynn is and Manafort has seemed to do more dirty deeds for Democrats than Republicans. Then you have all the Hillary/DNC/FBI/Obama Admin stuff going on. Funny that just as that gains traction, the news cycle will swiftly shift. Funny how that works.


Monker will have a hard on all week end. Remember, Mueller started investigating the Clintons this week. It will be interesting next week.


Ah, so that's what you all meant by, "don't be too hard on Monker the next few days.

What will be interesting is how Trump reacts when Manafort/Flynn/Jr./Kushner are indicted...either one, several, many, or all. Probably try to do just what you did...."But, but, but....Clinton." That's the only response he, and ditto-heads like you, know how to give.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:52 pm

Kinda interesting that Mueller, tasked with investigating the crimes HE committed (along with clinton), is now filing charges against someone.

Also interesting that Clinton is now asking her minions to "wanted her supporters to give Pres. Trump a chance"


My bet is that Meuller is charging Manafort, who was likely a Democrat plant... that's why Trump fired him...

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:07 pm

slucero wrote:Kinda interesting that Mueller, tasked with investigating the crimes HE committed (along with clinton), is now filing charges against someone.

Also interesting that Clinton is now asking her minions to "wanted her supporters to give Pres. Trump a chance"


My bet is that Meuller is charging Manafort, who was likely a Democrat plant... that's why Trump fired him...


Interesting that when reality hits, you have to reply with more fiction.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:08 am

Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Memorex wrote:Should be an interesting week to come. Mueller has filed his first charges - arrests as early as Monday. Finally we may find out what all this time and money has been spent on. Flynn? Manafort? I'd say surely no Democrats (cause Mueller) but Flynn is and Manafort has seemed to do more dirty deeds for Democrats than Republicans. Then you have all the Hillary/DNC/FBI/Obama Admin stuff going on. Funny that just as that gains traction, the news cycle will swiftly shift. Funny how that works.


Monker will have a hard on all week end. Remember, Mueller started investigating the Clintons this week. It will be interesting next week.


Ah, so that's what you all meant by, "don't be too hard on Monker the next few days.

What will be interesting is how Trump reacts when Manafort/Flynn/Jr./Kushner are indicted...either one, several, many, or all. Probably try to do just what you did...."But, but, but....Clinton." That's the only response he, and ditto-heads like you, know how to give.


Why would Jr. be in any trouble?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:40 am

Monker wrote:....but, as I have tried to say...Muelher is not distracted, he just continues to investigate.


More 'white knighting' of Mueller, as some government Galahad stepping in to save the day. You sound like a child. If Mueller, who lied his ass off promoting the Iraq War, is so dedicated to investigating, why hasn't he looked at the DNC servers? Why hasn't he interviewed Assange?

Monker wrote:Therefore, eventually, IMO, Trump will fire Muehler...especially now indictments are being handed down and people like Flynn and Manafort will be pressured to turn against him.....and then there is Jr. and Kushner which I am sure he feels obligated to protect...either by firing Muehler or pardon, or both. And, when that starts happening, Republicans will start turning against him - more just Corker, Flake, and McCain.


Pressured to turn against Trump and say WHAT exactly? That they all conspired with Russia to run pro-Trump FB ads? Give me a break.

Monker wrote: Trump will be in jail and you'll still think he's President. If he is in jail, at least America will start becoming Great again.


He could run for another term from jail and still kick Hillary's ass.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:41 am

Monker wrote:Interesting that when reality hits, you have to reply with more fiction.


Fiction like 'Hillary had permission to use a private server'?
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