They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[steveo777]

Wrong! It's justified to neutralize the threat when risk of death to people is at stake, not a movie. You know he would have fired on the cops, as well, and they have a right to defend themselves. I don't know why you're getting wrapped around the axle on this. It's just common sense and would stand up in any court of law as a justified killing. Which brings me to the question, who's side are you on anyway? Seems the so called liberals of today want to defend the bad guy, rather than place blame squarely where it belongs.While that might not be you, many are like that, including the public defender who was showing sympathy to the perp, saying he's a broken child. No, the guy is an evil nut case.

No, that's not what I meant. Sorry I have to explain it to you, but not everyone is Cordell Walker. And I'm not "defending the bad guy." That's just you blathering away off your leash. You sound like an old man getting worked up and spraying Sanka out your nose...for nothing.

I don't drink Sanka...

[The_Noble_Cause]

Good article.

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/21/ho ... -theories/

[steveo777]

Tying loose threads together.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-146256

Might be like trying to reattach a severed head, but the truth must come into light.

[Boomchild]

Asange poses a legitimate question here.

Julian Assange ⌛‏ @JulianAssange:

Why did the Mueller terms of reference only target the Trump campaign and Russia? Just days later CIA director John Brennan admitted under oath to Congress that other countries attempted election influence. Brennan resigned in Jan 2017 so knew before. ➻ http://nyti.ms/2qxZk7S



https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/867383174560722945

[ohsherrie]

Good article.

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/21/ho ... -theories/

And sadly not at air surprising. We no longer have a news media in this country. We have a huge machine for propagating political agenda.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Crazy times when Tucker on Fox News is to the left of most programming on MSNBC. Glad he covered this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... gCNf2RNGHU

[steveo777]

Schiff caught lying.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... e-hearing/

California Democrats aren't as stupid as I thought.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-d ... 31877.html

If I were a California Democrat politician, I wouldn't be too comfortable right now. Once you get out of the Bay Area and LA, people aren't as liberal as some Californians believe. People are seeing how crazy people like Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are. They've lost all sense of sanity, if they ever had any. Maybe their unhinged hate for Trump has revealed who they truly are. People are sick of Governor Jerry "moonbeam" Brown's endless new taxes and increases.We just got a big gas tax, a recent tobacco tax, that raised the cost of a pack of smokes by $2 per pack. We have the bullet train, over budget by over 2bn dollars, with no cost containment and no completion date in sight. Also they're sick of the constant misappropriation of funds and the diversion of them to helping give things to illegal aliens. We're sick of cities harboring criminal illegals. We've had enough of this shit and next elections could be a referendum on it all. If the Dems lose a governorship and some house and senate seats, that is exactly what I will attribute the loses to. People are just sick of the freak show down here.

[tj]

Schiff caught lying.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... e-hearing/

California Democrats aren't as stupid as I thought.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-d ... 31877.html

I knew that Feinstein had been in office for a while, but didn't realize that she was 85 years old.

[Boomchild]

If I were a California Democrat politician, I wouldn't be too comfortable right now. Once you get out of the Bay Area and LA, people aren't as liberal as some Californians believe. People are seeing how crazy people like Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are. They've lost all sense of sanity, if they ever had any. Maybe their unhinged hate for Trump has revealed who they truly are. People are sick of Governor Jerry "moonbeam" Brown's endless new taxes and increases.We just got a big gas tax, a recent tobacco tax, that raised the cost of a pack of smokes by $2 per pack. We have the bullet train, over budget by over 2bn dollars, with no cost containment and no completion date in sight. Also they're sick of the constant misappropriation of funds and the diversion of them to helping give things to illegal aliens. We're sick of cities harboring criminal illegals. We've had enough of this shit and next elections could be a referendum on it all. If the Dems lose a governorship and some house and senate seats, that is exactly what I will attribute the loses to. People are just sick of the freak show down here.

I have heard these kinds of things before. But if a large percentage of people do not think like those in the Bay Area and L.A., how did Hillary garner so many votes in CA in the last election?

[ohsherrie]

If I were a California Democrat politician, I wouldn't be too comfortable right now. Once you get out of the Bay Area and LA, people aren't as liberal as some Californians believe. People are seeing how crazy people like Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are. They've lost all sense of sanity, if they ever had any. Maybe their unhinged hate for Trump has revealed who they truly are. People are sick of Governor Jerry "moonbeam" Brown's endless new taxes and increases.We just got a big gas tax, a recent tobacco tax, that raised the cost of a pack of smokes by $2 per pack. We have the bullet train, over budget by over 2bn dollars, with no cost containment and no completion date in sight. Also they're sick of the constant misappropriation of funds and the diversion of them to helping give things to illegal aliens. We're sick of cities harboring criminal illegals. We've had enough of this shit and next elections could be a referendum on it all. If the Dems lose a governorship and some house and senate seats, that is exactly what I will attribute the loses to. People are just sick of the freak show down here.

I have heard these kinds of things before. But if a large percentage of people do not think like those in the Bay Area and L.A., how did Hillary garner so many votes in CA in the last election?

The concentration of population in the Greater Los Angeles and Bay Area including Oakland and Sacramento. There are also huge numbers of illegals, some of whom actually voted and all of whom influence the votes of the Hispanic population that dominates much of Southern California cities.

[Boomchild]

The concentration of population in the Greater Los Angeles and Bay Area including Oakland and Sacramento. There are also huge numbers of illegals, some of whom actually voted and all of whom influence the votes of the Hispanic population that dominates much of Southern California cities.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the illegals have overtaken the majority of the voting populous of the state? If that this the case, I think it will be hard for those not in the areas outside of the area mentioned to be able to change anything.

[ohsherrie]

The concentration of population in the Greater Los Angeles and Bay Area including Oakland and Sacramento. There are also huge numbers of illegals, some of whom actually voted and all of whom influence the votes of the Hispanic population that dominates much of Southern California cities.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the illegals have overtaken the majority of the voting populous of the state? If that this the case, I think it will be hard for those not in the areas outside of the area mentioned to be able to change anything.

Deportation of ALL illegals, arrest and prison for gang members, and a wall could change more than you might think. The federal government can do those things with no help from California.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Supreme Court refused to hear DACA case.

[verslibre]

The concentration of population in the Greater Los Angeles and Bay Area including Oakland and Sacramento. There are also huge numbers of illegals, some of whom actually voted and all of whom influence the votes of the Hispanic population that dominates much of Southern California cities.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the illegals have overtaken the majority of the voting populous of the state? If that this the case, I think it will be hard for those not in the areas outside of the area mentioned to be able to change anything.

No, that's a bunch of bullshit. California is probably only split by Dem/Rep in a 60/40 sense. Maybe SF and LA are heavily Democratic but San Diego (a large populous area Sherrie didn't bother mentioning) is heavily Republican.

And "most illegals" probably didn't bother voting because they were too busy working.

[JBlake]

Wow wow..


When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

I'm thinking this will all boil down to:

1) If they had a specific protocol in place that laid out what they need to do in such a situation
2) And if so, what the protocol calls for them to actually do as first responders to such a situation.

From my understanding, there was at least one armed security guy on campus at the time the shooting started. Should he simply just run in with guns a blazing not knowing what the exact situation is first? That one security guy doesn't at that time know what the exact scope of this situation is, how many shooters there are, who's shooting, etc. etc.

If they find out through the investigation that there was no such protocol in place, they will obviously change that.

[Boomchild]

Deportation of ALL illegals, arrest and prison for gang members, and a wall could change more than you might think. The federal government can do those things with no help from California.

In terms of CA, word is circulating that President Trump may be thinking of pulling ICE totally out this state.

[ohsherrie]

The concentration of population in the Greater Los Angeles and Bay Area including Oakland and Sacramento. There are also huge numbers of illegals, some of whom actually voted and all of whom influence the votes of the Hispanic population that dominates much of Southern California cities.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the illegals have overtaken the majority of the voting populous of the state? If that this the case, I think it will be hard for those not in the areas outside of the area mentioned to be able to change anything.

No, that's a bunch of bullshit. California is probably only split by Dem/Rep in a 60/40 sense. Maybe SF and LA are heavily Democratic but San Diego (a large populous area Sherrie didn't bother mentioning) is heavily Republican.

And "most illegals" probably didn't bother voting because they were too busy working.

San Diego a heavily military oasis in a desert filled with border crossing illegals, and that's no bullshit snowflake.

I apologize, I shouldn't have called you a snowflake but at the time I didn't have time to explain that there is substantial evidence that illegals did indeed vote in California and even more evidence that millions of them are not working. They are sponging welfare off of the working citizens of this country.

I don't have the time or inclination to find and post that proof because frankly your opinion isn't worth the effort, and if you don't have time to find the facts before you accuse me of posting BULLSHIT, why should I take the time to enlighten you?

[ohsherrie]

Deportation of ALL illegals, arrest and prison for gang members, and a wall could change more than you might think. The federal government can do those things with no help from California.

In terms of CA, word is circulating that President Trump may be thinking of pulling ICE totally out this state.

Well then they shouldn't have a vote in what is good for the rest of the country. Let Hollywood support their social programs all by themselves.

[verslibre]

San Diego a heavily military oasis in a desert filled with border crossing illegals, and that's no bullshit snowflake.

Wow, Countess Obvious. That was amazing. San Diego, a "military city"? Gee, I never heard that one before, despite having been there many times (it helps that I live a couple hours from there). Point Loma is awesome, if you ever get a chance to visit. It overlooks the bay where all the ships and sailboats and messages-in-a-bottle roll in. You can also step aboard the Midway and OoO! and AhH!

So wtf exactly was your point again?

[verslibre]

Deportation of ALL illegals, arrest and prison for gang members, and a wall could change more than you might think. The federal government can do those things with no help from California.

In terms of CA, word is circulating that President Trump may be thinking of pulling ICE totally out this state.

Well then they shouldn't have a vote in what is good for the rest of the country. Let Hollywood support their social programs all by themselves.

[ohsherrie]

Version??? Whoever, get over it. You obviously don't know what you're talking about and just want to argue. I'm not your playmate.

[verslibre]

I'm not your playmate.

OoO! Dirty talk! Please stick around. This thread is a meat locker. (Remember, Steve is the one who said political discussions may not be your forte.)

[verslibre]

Steve was speaking to annapea.

Whoa! You're right. There was ANOTHER poster in here without da twig & berries, and I bet you ran her off. Sausage fest, I tellz ya...

[verslibre]

Her point was that SD is overrun with illegals which is fact. I’m sure youve seen the freeway signs to remind you not to run over them as they flee north across I-5.

Don't forget in the first sentence in her post she alluded to (all) the metros being Dem strongholds. I pointed out that San Diego is not one of them (which, I reiterate, is probably why she left it out of her statement).

[verslibre]

I don't have the time or inclination to find and post that proof because frankly your opinion isn't worth the effort, and if you don't have time to find the facts before you accuse me of posting BULLSHIT, why should I take the time to enlighten you?

Don't worry about that now. You have to find the time and inclination to support the notion Krump isn't talking out of his rear when he said he would've run into that school like Lone Wolf McQuade.

[JBlake]

I don't have the time or inclination to find and post that proof because frankly your opinion isn't worth the effort, and if you don't have time to find the facts before you accuse me of posting BULLSHIT, why should I take the time to enlighten you?

Don't worry about that now. You have to find the time and inclination to support the notion Krump isn't talking out of his rear when he said he would've run into that school like Lone Wolf McQuade.

It really depends on where an armed security is at the time the shooting starts. Inside the hallways or classrooms that are being shot up will make a hero out of most who are trained and/or in possession of a firearm. If on the outside the school where only shots are being heard, some may want to assess the situation before just rushing blindly into utter chaos with loads of school kids with guns blazing.

I'm not on any specific person's side in this matter, just trying to put myself in the other person's shoes to make sense of the reaction.

[verslibre]

It really depends on where an armed security is at the time the shooting starts. Inside the hallways or classrooms that are being shot up will make a hero out of most who are trained and/or in possession of a firearm. If on the outside the school where only shots are being heard, some may want to assess the situation before just rushing blindly into utter chaos with loads of school kids with guns blazing.

I'm not on any specific person's side in this matter, just trying to put myself in the other person's shoes to make sense of the reaction.

Yes, of course, but this is one of those times when a lot of people get the gumption to blurt out things like "If I'd have been there...!" Twin barrels burning, like the album.

[Monker]

I'm not your playmate.

OoO! Dirty talk! Please stick around. This thread is a meat locker. (Remember, Steve is the one who said political discussions may not be your forte.)

Steve was speaking to annapea.

Her point was that SD is overrun with illegals which is fact. I’m sure youve seen the freeway signs to remind you not to run over them as they flee north across I-5.

Her point was also that illegals were voting and tipping the scales. I would like proof of.

As far as I know, it is nothing but bullshit. It is still illegal for them to vote in CA....I'm sure ICE would like to know more about these people to track them down. So, where is the proof that they vote in a large enough number to tilt the scales of an election?

[Monker]

In California you need to show a DL, which anyone of legal age can get in some counties. Want to guess which ones? All you need to show to vote is a DL.

So what. That is just more connect the dots conspiracy theory crap. There is no proof that it happens in the numbers

she described. In a country where less than half of eligible voters vote...I should believe vast numbers of people who are here illegaly vote? Yeah, right...just a bunch of whiners who are not getting their way.

[steveo777]

In California you need to show a DL, which anyone of legal age can get in some counties. Want to guess which ones? All you need to show to vote is a DL.

They are registering people to vote at the DMV when they get their driver's license.When I moved here and got my DL, they asked me if I would like to register to vote. I had already registered before that. The guy in front of me said yes, and he could barely speak english and the DMV agent asked him in Spanish if he'd like to register and he said "si". They are not checking for citizenship. Not exactly legal, but the mentality is, who's gonna check? So, I need no more proof that these people are being registered and that some of them are actually voting.