"Arrival: 2001" DVD goes platinum .....

[Eric]

From Charles Ted Oliphant, who worked for Journey video in 2005 said this:

"No one has heard Steve Augeri sing for 3 years. I did a video of them in 1999, at the Concord Pavilion, and poor Stevie( a very nice guy), was having trouble even then. People told me it was the best video of Journey they had ever seen, all except Neal Schon who watched my video and cringed as Augeri regularly went off key and his voice cracked. But the following year, Stevie A was really in trouble, and by the time they did the Live DVD from Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nocturne ( the video production company formerly owned by Schon and Herbert) had to isolate all of Stevie A's vocal tracks and 'fix' them in Pro-Tools, correcting pitch, etc. A deviated septium surgery "didn't help matters at all"

Still think I am full of shit?

Why is it they didn't make a change earlier you think?

There was nobody pressuring them to.

Was there pressure to make a change regarding Soto?

[Enigma869]

Really? I find this hard to believe. Are you sure it wasn't the '81 DVD? Or the Greatest Hits DVD?

Why? Because people actually gave a shit about Augeri in Journey?

Sorry to break it to you:

[/quote]

You're suggesting Steve Augeri is the force behind any Journey sales? Sorry...not buying it! There is no question that Augeri has his fans. That's all BT ever really had! That said, I think the name "Journey" and the reputation that the name "Journey" had is more responsible for any of their sales, than any other factor! You have to understand that most casual music fans (which is MOST of the fans purchasing DVD's and cd's) have ZERO idea what the name is of anyone in a given band!

My hunch is that if you were to poll an audience at a Journey concert...most of them would have no idea that the guy up on stage singing the hits they grew up listening to isn't the same guy who made the songs famous! Most people simply don't pay that close attention to such matters! Remember...Jeff Scott Soto posted on this very forum, after joining Journey, that he was amazed at how many people he encountered, who had no idea that Perry wasn't in the band any longer, and this, almost 10 years after Perry's departure and after Augeri's departure! I think that proves more than anything that most people identify with the name "Journey" and simply assume that it must be the same guys!

John from Boston

[bluejeangirl76]

Has the ARRIVAL CD gone GOLD yet?

No. It has not.

[Rockindeano]

Has the ARRIVAL CD gone GOLD yet?

No. It has not.

Never happen. Not even close.

[Sandman67]

Lipping (IE. TAPEGATE) and fixing vocals in Pro Tools for a DVD are 2 different things.

[Rockindeano]

Lipping (IE. TAPEGATE) and fixing vocals in Pro Tools for a DVD are 2 different things.

I know that.

I never said he lipped Vegas. I said, and will so again, SA sang live for Vegas, but the vocals were not good enough to be put on the DVD.

Anything else you smart mouth motherfucker? I know my shit. Try me, I will embarrass you, you country bum fuck.

[bluejeangirl76]

Platinum for a DVD is 500,000 I believe, not a million, and yes, the vocals for that live DVD were done in studio, lol.

Platinum for music video longform is 100,000 units and Gold is 50,000.

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=criteria

[Rockindeano]

Nice call, I thought we had one too many zero's on there.

[ohsosoto]

The "Arrival: 2001" DVD apparently went platinum according to the RIAA not too long ago. Did anyone else hear this?

Too bad everything else distracted our attention from an honor rightfully earned.

Rightfully earned?

Those aren't live lyrics on this DVD you know. Something to think about. Somebody wants to send me 10 dollars for shipping can have mine.

do i get a set of ginshu knives with that purchase????

[amaron]

You're suggesting Steve Augeri is the force behind any Journey sales?

Nope. The fact that Journey did not have one single concert commercially released was the driving force.

[amaron]

Has the ARRIVAL CD gone GOLD yet?

No. It has not.

Never happen. Not even close.

Wasn't the number around 230,000 or something like that?

No chance in hell is right.

[ohsherrie]

-Really? I find this hard to believe. Are you sure it wasn't the '81 DVD? Or the Greatest Hits DVD?-

Why? Because people actually gave a shit about Augeri in Journey?

Sorry to break it to you:

Sorry to break this to you too, but I guarantee a million walmart and target shoppers didn't buy that DVD knowing in advance that Augeri was fronting the band.

I know of people who bought it without even realizing Perry was gone or that Arrival existed. In fact, my son-in-law picked it up to buy for me not knowing anything about the changes, but luckily my daughter saved the money and his head by seeing what he had and telling him he be much wiser not to put that into my hands.

[whocares]

I dunno. I never bought ANY recording with Augeri on them. I got the Live in Vegas video from a DirecTV freeview. Glad I didn't pay for it. And we all know about the Arrival leak on Napster a full year + before it was released in the US. Based on that, I wasn't going to spend money on CD's with him. Sadly, I did attend more concerts 3 I believe with Augeri as the "lead singer". And was disappointed everytime,w ith his "live' vocals.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Those aren't live lyrics on this DVD you know.

Bullshit.

Really? You have no clue.

Deano, asside from the whole tapegate thing, what makes you say the DVD is not live? There are a lot of places where Augeri struggles and even sounds bad on that DVD. If they wanted to fake it, couldn't they and wouldn't they come up with something better?

I think it seems live, and is a good concert, even though not perfect.

[Rockindeano]

Those aren't live lyrics on this DVD you know.

Bullshit.

Really? You have no clue.

Deano, asside from the whole tapegate thing, what makes you say the DVD is not live? There are a lot of places where Augeri struggles and even sounds bad on that DVD. If they wanted to fake it, couldn't they and wouldn't they come up with something better?

I think it seems live, and is a good concert, even though not perfect.

Ok, if you think it's live, so be it.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Those aren't live lyrics on this DVD you know.

Bullshit.

Really? You have no clue.

Deano, asside from the whole tapegate thing, what makes you say the DVD is not live? There are a lot of places where Augeri struggles and even sounds bad on that DVD. If they wanted to fake it, couldn't they and wouldn't they come up with something better?

I think it seems live, and is a good concert, even though not perfect.

Ok, if you think it's live, so be it.

I'm just saying, does it make sense that the concert isn't a bit more perfect, if its not live? I know Shirley edited the thing, but if they were trying to really be dishonest, why isnt it better? Augeri makes some horrible sounds on Be Good to Yourself, and I've often wondered WHY they didnt pro tool that part!

Comments?

[whocares]

Because if you make it TOO perfect, then what? There's no such thing as perfect in a concert. Once you achieve perfection, theres no place left to go.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Because if you make it TOO perfect, then what? There's no such thing as perfect in a concert. Once you achieve perfection, theres no place left to go.

Good point. There are limits or it becomes obvious, but some of the stuff they obviously left raw, are just horrendous! I would have left more subtle mistakes than that, if I wanted to have a superior product that also seemed uneditted.

[Abitaman]

From Charles Ted Oliphant, who worked for Journey video in 2005 said this:

"No one has heard Steve Augeri sing for 3 years. I did a video of them in 1999, at the Concord Pavilion, and poor Stevie( a very nice guy), was having trouble even then. People told me it was the best video of Journey they had ever seen, all except Neal Schon who watched my video and cringed as Augeri regularly went off key and his voice cracked. But the following year, Stevie A was really in trouble, and by the time they did the Live DVD from Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nocturne ( the video production company formerly owned by Schon and Herbert) had to isolate all of Stevie A's vocal tracks and 'fix' them in Pro-Tools, correcting pitch, etc. A deviated septium surgery "didn't help matters at all"

Still think I am full of shit?

So he had one good year? Poor bastard. I listened to Tall Stories for the first time yesterday, he definitely sings in a lower register on that. I liked it though.

I have a Tall Stories boot that is pretty good.-ERIC

[AR]

I'm not reading this whole thread, but DVD platinum is not what CD platinum is. I forget the exact figure, but I think it's only 50,000.

I know more than most of you.

[JeremyP]

I'm just saying, does it make sense that the concert isn't a bit more perfect, if its not live? I know Shirley edited the thing, but if they were trying to really be dishonest, why isnt it better? Augeri makes some horrible sounds on Be Good to Yourself, and I've often wondered WHY they didnt pro tool that part!

Comments?

Hmmm, that's my favorite version of that song, ever.

[Red13JoePa]

I like the 2001 version of BGTY but the one from the ROR tour on the GH DVD actually buries it.

perry was a true house aflame on that and schon exhibited controlled rage on the solo.

[Matthew]

The "Arrival: 2001" DVD apparently went platinum according to the RIAA not too long ago. Did anyone else hear this?

Too bad everything else distracted our attention from an honor rightfully earned.

Really? I find this hard to believe. Are you sure it wasn't the '81 DVD? Or the Greatest Hits DVD?

Why? Because people actually gave a shit about Augeri in Journey?

Sorry to break it to you:

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Artist
JOURNEY    
Title
LIVE: 2001    
Certification Date
06/16/2006    
Label
COLUMBIA MUSIC VIDEO
Award Description
PLATINUM    
Format
VIDEO LONGFORM    
Category
GROUP    
Type
ST

How many Augeri era songs are on this DVD? Correct me if I'm wrong...but they play Higher Place and...er, that's about it. In fact, do they even play that one?

[Rick]

The "Arrival: 2001" DVD apparently went platinum according to the RIAA not too long ago. Did anyone else hear this?

Too bad everything else distracted our attention from an honor rightfully earned.

Really? I find this hard to believe. Are you sure it wasn't the '81 DVD? Or the Greatest Hits DVD?

Why? Because people actually gave a shit about Augeri in Journey?

Sorry to break it to you:

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Artist
JOURNEY    
Title
LIVE: 2001    
Certification Date
06/16/2006    
Label
COLUMBIA MUSIC VIDEO
Award Description
PLATINUM    
Format
VIDEO LONGFORM    
Category
GROUP    
Type
ST

How many Augeri era songs are on this DVD? Correct me if I'm wrong...but they play Higher Place and...er, that's about it. In fact, do they even play that one?

All The Way also.

[Matthew]

All The Way also.

Ah...so that's why it went platinum.

[whocares]

imagine the numbers if say, Butterfly woulda been out at the time. OMG! Gazillions woulda been sold.

[Red13JoePa]

All The Way also.

Ah...so that's why it went platinum.

No it wasn't BECAUSE of Augeri but neither can we credit Steve Perry for it, either.

It was because it was Journey, with or without perry, that it went platinum.

[whocares]

and I dare say that most of the people who bought it were in the countries that Journey refused to tour in for decades at a time. They wanted a fix, at any cost.

Seriously a DVD going platinum, is about as exciting as playing red rover, red rover.

[amaron]

and I dare say that most of the people who bought it were in the countries that Journey refused to tour in for decades at a time. They wanted a fix, at any cost.

Seriously a DVD going platinum, is about as exciting as playing red rover, red rover.

I hate to point out that the RIAA deals with the US only, not other countries.

[Calbear94]

and I dare say that most of the people who bought it were in the countries that Journey refused to tour in for decades at a time. They wanted a fix, at any cost.

This is a ridiculous statement. Like it or not, Augeri was in Journey for eight years. Most fans, except maybe a few jaded hardcores, came to accept Augeri by the time his tenure in the band ended. The 2001 DVD was very well done...it still sells.