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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:22 pm

Skylorde wrote:or we stick it out with our Marines' having their hands tied behind their backs because liberals cant stomach seeing pink underwear on the heads of prisoners. That's a fuckin mess alright.


Oh, so you think you know more about torture than Senator Jon McCain, do yah?
Colin Powell has also come out against such atrocities commited in our name.
And no, you sick cavalier fuck, Abu Gharib wasn't just soldiers blowing off steam - sodomy and deaths were reported as well

You know what?
On second thought, fuck it.
There is too much disinformation here for me to even take an earnest thwack at.
You guys deserve this odious band of pimps and thieves.
I’m with Bush.
Bring on the Apocalypse!
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:24 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I’m with Bush.
Bring on the Apocalypse!


He's trying his hardest, TNC. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:26 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Oh, so you think you know more about torture than Senator Jon McCain, do yah?
Colin Powell has also come out against such atrocities commited in our name.
And no, you sick cavalier fuck, Abu Gharib wasn't just soldiers blowing off steam - sodomy and deaths were reported as well


That isn't what he's saying if you'd bother to read between the lines a little. What happened at Abu Ghraib was wrong and shouldn't have happened. However, it cannot be compared, even the least little bit, to the torture and death that happens and has happened on a regular basis by the other side in this war, yet the left would have you believe that we are the ones who are responsible for all manner of atrocities committed in this war.

As far as sodomy and deaths in Abu Ghraib, I haven't heard of any credible evidence of that occurring. If it is, the criminals who committed it are just as subhuman as the terrorists committing them every day in Iraq.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:32 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Skylorde wrote:or we stick it out with our Marines' having their hands tied behind their backs because liberals cant stomach seeing pink underwear on the heads of prisoners. That's a fuckin mess alright.


Oh, so you think you know more about torture than Senator Jon McCain, do yah?
Colin Powell has also come out against such atrocities commited in our name.
And no, you sick cavalier fuck, Abu Gharib wasn't just soldiers blowing off steam - sodomy and deaths were reported as well

You know what?
On second thought, fuck it.
There is too much disinformation here for me to even take an earnest thwack at.
You guys deserve this odious band of pimps and thieves.
I’m with Bush.
Bring on the Apocalypse!



Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents. Soldiers snap in every war. It's an unfortunate reality. In the end though, it's hard for me to feel sorry for some sick fuck who was forced to wear a dog collar and form a naked pyramid.
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:33 pm

Saint John wrote:Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents. Soldiers snap in every war. It's an unfortunate reality. In the end though, it's hard for me to feel sorry for some sick fuck who was forced to wear a dog collar and form a naked pyramid.


Shit, that's a typical Friday night at AR's house. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:34 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
Saint John wrote:Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents. Soldiers snap in every war. It's an unfortunate reality. In the end though, it's hard for me to feel sorry for some sick fuck who was forced to wear a dog collar and form a naked pyramid.


Shit, that's a typical Friday night at AR's house. :lol:


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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:37 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
Saint John wrote:Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents. Soldiers snap in every war. It's an unfortunate reality. In the end though, it's hard for me to feel sorry for some sick fuck who was forced to wear a dog collar and form a naked pyramid.


Shit, that's a typical Friday night at AR's house. :lol:


See...it ISN'T that bad, huh NIG? Shit, I saw guys in college frats that WISHED they only had to form a naked pyramid.
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Postby Skylorde » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:46 pm

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Skylorde wrote:On the other hand, the ever popular hero of the left Michael i_need_MORE_food was just over in Iran licking Achmedinijad's ass so Achmedinijad is probably a good guy in their book.


Well, as expected, it took a .01 second Google search to find out this was utter bullshit.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikeinthenews/


How many more Republican lies can I debunk today?


Yes, it was a good catch and I was duped.

You got one. Don't break you arm patting yourself on the back. Moore *WAS* in Cuba butt fucking Castro (probably giving him a reach around as well). Achmedinijad, Castro --- whats the difference?
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Postby Skylorde » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:55 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Oh, so you think you know more about torture than Senator Jon McCain, do yah?
Colin Powell has also come out against such atrocities commited in our name.
And no, you sick cavalier fuck, Abu Gharib wasn't just soldiers blowing off steam - sodomy and deaths were reported as well

Frankly, I really don't care if our soldiers were water boarding FOR THE FUCK OF IT! Go watch the video of Nick Berger getting his head lopped off and then come back and tell me pink underwear as an atrocity.

Oh, and just for the record? FUCK MCCAIN. He's a disgrace.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:You know what?

Oh, I can't wait!
The_Noble_Cause wrote:On second thought, fuck it.

Predictable
The_Noble_Cause wrote:There is too much disinformation here for me to even take an earnest thwack at.
You guys deserve this odious band of pimps and thieves.

Or could there be too much accurate information here for you to refute. You got one, Michael Moore going to Iran. Here's your medal.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I’m with Bush.
Bring on the Apocalypse!

Believe it or not, he agrees with you on more issues than you realize!
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:33 am

a concert for throwing trash out the RIGHT WAY and not the wrong way;
how desperate can liberal minds get for attention!! Oh I think this was it!!!


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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:38 am

lights1961 wrote:a concert for throwing trash out the RIGHT WAY and not the wrong way;
how desperate can liberal minds get for attention!! Oh I think this was it!!!


That event was a joke. At least some decent performances came out of it. I enjoyed Roger Waters the most.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:58 am

NealIsGod wrote:
lights1961 wrote:a concert for throwing trash out the RIGHT WAY and not the wrong way;
how desperate can liberal minds get for attention!! Oh I think this was it!!!


That event was a joke. At least some decent performances came out of it. I enjoyed Roger Waters the most.


THAT WAS THE PRICE OF ADMISSIONS, Roger Waters, he was fantastic!! Bon Jovi was lame.. and so were the Police.
Kelly Clarkson kicked some butt too.

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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:18 am

What an interesting and pathetic read.

GI Jim, shut your fucking piehole. I am not thanking you for your "service." You got paid to go to the military, and you went on your own. I No one twisted your fucking arm. I too went and served in the US Army, and no one owes me a fucking thing. I don't go around saying what a great guy I am because I was in Desert Storm. Fuck you. On page 2, you said you weren't responding to any more political talk, yet you jumped back in 25 more times with complete stupidity, and uneducated banter. I was laughing at your posts, because you are obviously a GOP clone, a stupid redneck from South Carolina who does everything Fox News, George Bush and Dick Cheney tell you.

Barb, you are just as fucking dumb. Global Warming IS IN FACT occurring. Scientist just don't roll around spewing bullshit sound bites. They are intelligent and highly paid and KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. Put your Fox News hate drivel for Al Gore aside, and think about our kids future. It is so selfish to just shrug your shoulders and say, "there is no crisis." That is offending.

Al Gore, is a good man. The guy is working his ass off to try to educate people, ALL people, to adjust living behaviours to not only make Earth a better place to live, but to save the planet. Of course you and other snooty fuckers can'tpossible fathom changing over to a better efficient light bulb...Hell no! God help us if we can't get off oil...Brazil did, and is now 100% oil free. What a wacky idea! People better wake up, and people better make some fucking changes, or there won't be an Earth to live on. I have two boys arriving next month, and I owe them a place to live.

Back to you fuckhead, err, GI Jim. What a cornball, nutjob you are. Take your Sean Hannity wrapped in the American flag bullshit and kiss my ass. Many people have criticized this bullshit war and you hop on em for "not being American." Fuck America. When America is wrong, America is wrong, period. It is ok tocriticize America you know. The world hates us, and that is not a good thing. Saint John, you need to back off the drugs as well. The Iraqi war has turned so bad, you now suggest it was all a plan to "fight em over there." What? Dude, you GOP'ers will never stop spinning will you?

In summation, congratulations on writing te stupidest shit I have ever read GI Jim. You are an American Idiot. I am back, and you won't get these long unchecked threads anylonger. I am pumped the fuck up now. ThankYou.
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:29 am

Someone pull the avatar down from the rafters and hand it back to the man. He is officially unretired.
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Postby Socratic Methodist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:37 am

Skylorde wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:I'm tired of the public falling for Bush's 'fear card'.....because it is BULLSHIT.

Didn't this thread start out talking about Al Goracle's FEAR CARD?

Socratic Methodist wrote:Before I say that an honest reading of this thread will discover your pitiful need for adulation, I’ll suggest an honest reading of this thread will discover your bloated ego was used jujitsu style to expose you as a pseudo-intellectual poser.
Continue to dance to your synthetic band as you fashion your world in your own image.
Using yourself as a yardstick to measure everyone else: you will come up short: In spite the fact that you think you are deserving of the 'Apha Male' moniker.

Socratic Methodist wrote:I had to go to college to become a cynic.

I'm laughing my ass off because I'll bet dollars to donuts you went to Berkeley. If that's the best you can do, you got ripped off. You should ask for a refund.

Socratic Methodist wrote:Illegal aliens are more of an issue in this country than the threat of terrorism. If the government wanted to 'protect' this country, it would make sure everyone had healthcare......and had a chance at employment - as opposed to getting 'undercut' by cheap illegal labor.

Finally, we somewhat agree however the threat of terrorism AND illegal aliens are not mutually exclusive. As long as the borders are wide open, the terrorist threat is real. Forget the socialist heath care, that's a disaster in the making (please spare me the SICKO quotes about Cuba, you'll have to do better than that). The employment, you bet. Americans would be much more receptive to "Doing those jobs American's wont do" if the wages were competitive.


Actually, I'm a graduate of Suffolk University(Boston), and Duke University(NC)....but thanks for guessing. :P
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Postby Barb » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:47 am

RockinDeano wrote:What an interesting and pathetic read.


Barb, you are just as fucking dumb. Global Warming IS IN FACT occurring. Scientist just don't roll around spewing bullshit sound bites. They are intelligent and highly paid and KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. Put your Fox News hate drivel for Al Gore aside, and think about our kids future. It is so selfish to just shrug your shoulders and say, "there is no crisis." That is offending.



Not everyone who doesn't think your way is dumb, Deano. The earth may be warming, but that doesn't = man did it. The earth has gone through warming periods way before cars were even invented, so how do you explain that? My opnion is that this is a natural occurrence and a bunch of assholes flying 233,000 miles to do a concert where thousands of people make a bunch of garbage isn't going to accomplish a damned thing. There is just as much science disputing man made global warming as there is on the other side, but the news doesn't tend to report on those findings for some reason.

If you want to buy into the Al Gore hysteria, be my guest.
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Postby Skylorde » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:53 am

Actually, I'm a graduate of Suffolk University(Boston), and Duke University(NC)....but thanks for guessing.


And the difference is?? :) :)
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Postby Playitloudforme » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:54 am

Barb, it is true that the earth has natural cycles of warming and then cooling.

But do the gas emissions and other bullshit that man is pumping out in the billions help or hinder the problem?

The correct answer is ...

Hinders it. It IS making it worse. There's no way around that one.

We either fix what we are doing, or put irrepairable harm to our environment. The intensity of that warming has been proven to be higher than ever before. Again... the scientist thing. They tend to know their stuff.

If you don't want to be a part of that, drive a hummer and suck up more gas. But it's clear, the size of the population and the waste that is being dispelled by that population is more than this planet can safely handle without major changes. So we either do something about it, or wait until Florida is underwater. I'm using my bicycle more, and my car less for around the town stuff. I have to take responsibility for ME and what I put out on the planet. Imagine if we all did.

Worse..imagine if we don't.
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Postby swataz » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:02 am

If we only had the power as to affect the earth's climate...that WOULD be something.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:02 am

Socratic Methodist wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:This whole thing is political...

Don't like Gore? Don't support what he stands for, even if it is the truth.

What is the harm in doing what he suggests. I guess someone thinks what he is saying is true....or else there wouldn't be such stringent emission laws.

Dissing Gore seems to be the vogue thing to do....what a shame people are so conforming to the mob mentality. :roll:


:cry: :cry: :roll: :cry:



Hey G.I Jim....don't you have anything better to do - like recruit young men and women, so they can be sent to their deaths in Irag?


You really are a patriot aren't you? No, I think I'll quit recruiting. It's obvious according to your posts, that we haven't had a threat, or been under any kind of attack since WWII. And for your information, several of those people "Sent to their deaths" are great friends of mine. Why did you ever even serve your country, if you don't believe in it???



Disagreeing with the war means I'm unpatriotic just as much as not agreeing with Journey's decisions of late mean that one is not a Journey fan.....Where do you get your logic from? Oh yeah, the military.

And I signed up when I didn't know any better. I had to go to college to become a cynic. Isn't that how it always is? The more educated one is, the more jaded they become.

Just keep allowing the rich white politicians to send the poor to war to fight their silly battles. Again, we were lied to in order for us to get over there. Once we were there, the admin. knew we'd be there 'indefinitely'. Nice scheme, huh? ONCE WE WERE THERE. All Bush had to do was get us there....And the public fell for it.

You can wave the military pom poms all you want. I'm tired of the public falling for Bush's 'fear card'.....because it is BULLSHIT.



You're a pussy.



Before I say that an honest reading of this thread will discover your pitiful need for adulation, I’ll suggest an honest reading of this thread will discover your bloated ego was used jujitsu style to expose you as a pseudo-intellectual poser.


That's actually wrong... DanoSinJin knows as much about world events and politics as anybody on here. His opinions are not always varnished to a fine sheen but you better BELIEVE they are informed.
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Postby Barb » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:02 am

Playitloudforme wrote:Barb, it is true that the earth has natural cycles of warming and then cooling.

But do the gas emissions and other bullshit that man is pumping out in the billions help or hinder the problem?

The correct answer is ...

Hinders it. It IS making it worse. There's no way around that one.

We either fix what we are doing, or put irrepairable harm to our environment. The intensity of that warming has been proven to be higher than ever before. Again... the scientist thing. They tend to know their stuff.

If you don't want to be a part of that, drive a hummer and suck up more gas. But it's clear, the size of the population and the waste that is being dispelled by that population is more than this planet can safely handle without major changes. So we either do something about it, or wait until Florida is underwater. I'm using my bicycle more, and my car less for around the town stuff. I have to take responsibility for ME and what I put out on the planet. Imagine if we all did.

Worse..imagine if we don't.


So do only the scientists who agree with man made global warming "know their stuff"? Because if scientists "know their stuff" and that applies to all scientists, what you have is a disagreement between two sets of people who know their stuff. I am not saying people should not be environmentally concious at all, but the ones doiing the preaching on this topic are some of the biggest hypocrites I have EVER seen! Al Gore doesn't do a damn thing in his personal life to help the cause he is so "passionate" about. He writes a check for carbon credits to excuse his behavior. If this is so real to him, he'd be living the lifestyle, not just telling everyone else what to do.

Again, 30 years ago, scientists (who "know their stuff") were saying the earth was going to freeze from global cooling. This global warming movement is going to go way beyond encouraging people to be more green. It is going to force people into compliance with all kinds of new taxes, fees and other money making scams to fill the pockets of the global warming evangelists.

The threat of Islamic terror is very real and I see that as the biggest danger to civilization as we know it, but there are a lot of people who don't see it that way. I guess everyone who is on the wrong side of either argument will eventually be proven wrong, right? :wink:
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Postby Socratic Methodist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:04 am

The thing about humanity, and such is that the current generation(and all those prior) say that they care about future generations, but they don't(at least a great majority do not). People live their lives for today, and that is it. 'Fuck it, if what *I'M* doing now hurts people 100 years from now. I'll be dead.'

Bush does not care if the policies he's backing come back to bite us 20 years from now....he knows he'll be long gone.

It is a natural state of the human condition. It is called selfishness. Been here since forever, and will be long after we turn to dust.
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Postby Skylorde » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:05 am

Deano you left me off your flame list, I feel so unloved!

I do have a reply to you though.

Brazil is not 100% oil free, Brazil is 100% foreign oil free meaning, they can sustain themselves from their own oil drilling and sugar cane crops.

Al Gore is a hypocrite JUST like Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Ted <HICCUP> Kennedy et al. Please dispense with the partisan bullshit and face reality. Nobody in Washington is working for the best interest of America. Gore stands to make a assload of money from his warming hype.

Regarding your boys, I understand your concern but do consider this. The calculated and methodic dismantling of the Republic (Please don't correct me with "democracy") is going to do FAR more damage to the quality of their lives in the coming 50 years than global warming. Just because a Al Gore type isn't leading you by the hand to show you the problem doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:08 am

Barb wrote:
If you want to buy into the Al Gore hysteria, be my guest.


Hysteria? Not hardly. The Man has written a book,which was accurate, and also a movie, which has been validated as accurate. He has done his homework. Have you? Listening to Hannity and watching Fox News is NOT researching.

I can't wait until next year, when you lose the White House as well. Watch all you fuckin neocons squirm will be hilarious.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:10 am

Barb wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:Barb, it is true that the earth has natural cycles of warming and then cooling.

But do the gas emissions and other bullshit that man is pumping out in the billions help or hinder the problem?

The correct answer is ...

Hinders it. It IS making it worse. There's no way around that one.

We either fix what we are doing, or put irrepairable harm to our environment. The intensity of that warming has been proven to be higher than ever before. Again... the scientist thing. They tend to know their stuff.

If you don't want to be a part of that, drive a hummer and suck up more gas. But it's clear, the size of the population and the waste that is being dispelled by that population is more than this planet can safely handle without major changes. So we either do something about it, or wait until Florida is underwater. I'm using my bicycle more, and my car less for around the town stuff. I have to take responsibility for ME and what I put out on the planet. Imagine if we all did.

Worse..imagine if we don't.


So do only the scientists who agree with man made global warming "know their stuff"? Because if scientists "know their stuff" and that applies to all scientists, what you have is a disagreement between two sets of people who know their stuff. I am not saying people should not be environmentally concious at all, but the ones doiing the preaching on this topic are some of the biggest hypocrites I have EVER seen! Al Gore doesn't do a damn thing in his personal life to help the cause he is so "passionate" about. He writes a check for carbon credits to excuse his behavior. If this is so real to him, he'd be living the lifestyle, not just telling everyone else what to do.

Again, 30 years ago, scientists (who "know their stuff") were saying the earth was going to freeze from global cooling. This global warming movement is going to go way beyond encouraging people to be more green. It is going to force people into compliance with all kinds of new taxes, fees and other money making scams to fill the pockets of the global warming evangelists.

The threat of Islamic terror is very real and I see that as the biggest danger to civilization as we know it, but there are a lot of people who don't see it that way. I guess everyone who is on the wrong side of either argument will eventually be proven wrong, right? :wink:


Bottom line, Barb. It's a personal decision to do what you think will be a help or a hinderance to this planet. You can choose each day to help it out, or say fuck it and pollute it more. I'm not a scientist. I don't have the facts & figures. I do know that it's hotter than it's ever been as my frickin airconditioner is on 24/7.

I can't stick my head up my ass. There will ALWAYS be people who will figure out how to make a buck on any situation going on, including global warming. But if I'm not doing my part just because they figured out a way to eek out some money, does my lack of action make it right?

I'm not about words. I'm about actions. Discussions don't do shit. Actions do. Nuff said.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:11 am

Socratic Methodist wrote:The thing about humanity, and such is that the current generation(and all those prior) say that they care about future generations, but they don't(at least a great majority do not). People live their lives for today, and that is it. 'Fuck it, if what *I'M* doing now hurts people 100 years from now. I'll be dead.'


Maybe you do. I don't.
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Postby Socratic Methodist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:12 am

RockinDeano wrote:
Barb wrote:
If you want to buy into the Al Gore hysteria, be my guest.


Hysteria? Not hardly. The Man has written a book,which was accurate, and also a movie, which has been validated as accurate. He has done his homework. Have you? Listening to Hannity and watching Fox News is NOT researching.

I can't wait until next year, when you lose the White House as well. Watch all you fuckin neocons squirm will be hilarious.



Hey Deano.... :)

Wouldn't you just love 10 minutes in a dark alley with Hannity?! Too bad Colmes is too much of pussbag to actually stand up to him.

Just thought I'd chime in. I hope I don't get flamed..... :wink:
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:13 am

Barb wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:Barb, it is true that the earth has natural cycles of warming and then cooling.

But do the gas emissions and other bullshit that man is pumping out in the billions help or hinder the problem?

The correct answer is ...

Hinders it. It IS making it worse. There's no way around that one.

We either fix what we are doing, or put irrepairable harm to our environment. The intensity of that warming has been proven to be higher than ever before. Again... the scientist thing. They tend to know their stuff.

If you don't want to be a part of that, drive a hummer and suck up more gas. But it's clear, the size of the population and the waste that is being dispelled by that population is more than this planet can safely handle without major changes. So we either do something about it, or wait until Florida is underwater. I'm using my bicycle more, and my car less for around the town stuff. I have to take responsibility for ME and what I put out on the planet. Imagine if we all did.

Worse..imagine if we don't.


So do only the scientists who agree with man made global warming "know their stuff"? Because if scientists "know their stuff" and that applies to all scientists, what you have is a disagreement between two sets of people who know their stuff. I am not saying people should not be environmentally concious at all, but the ones doiing the preaching on this topic are some of the biggest hypocrites I have EVER seen! Al Gore doesn't do a damn thing in his personal life to help the cause he is so "passionate" about. He writes a check for carbon credits to excuse his behavior. If this is so real to him, he'd be living the lifestyle, not just telling everyone else what to do.

Again, 30 years ago, scientists (who "know their stuff") were saying the earth was going to freeze from global cooling. This global warming movement is going to go way beyond encouraging people to be more green. It is going to force people into compliance with all kinds of new taxes, fees and other money making scams to fill the pockets of the global warming evangelists.

The threat of Islamic terror is very real and I see that as the biggest danger to civilization as we know it, but there are a lot of people who don't see it that way. I guess everyone who is on the wrong side of either argument will eventually be proven wrong, right? :wink:


Humans can destroy things but not the planet... If we had the power, we would have done so MANY thousands of years ago!! Remember God and Mother Nature, together they created the great floods, the plagues and all the other destruction of the planet... not humans,even with all the wars and the nuculear bombs of the 1945 in Japan did not destroy the earth!! The only reasons science is coming up with the **truth** about global warming is politics---liberal politics----

BTW, the world will change on the winter solstice 21DEC2012----according to some cultures, from a history program I saw last Weds. So all this global warning stuff, is nonsense!!

On the original topic, some of the music was great some really sucked.

LOVED, CROWDED HOUSE, GENESIS, ROGER WATERS, KELLY CLARKSON.


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Postby Playitloudforme » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:16 am

Rick... the fuckin Mayan calendar? Oh come on dude..
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:16 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
Bottom line, Barb. It's a personal decision to do what you think will be a help or a hinderance to this planet. You can choose each day to help it out, or say fuck it and pollute it more. I'm not a scientist. I don't have the facts & figures. I do know that it's hotter than it's ever been as my frickin airconditioner is on 24/7.

I can't stick my head up my ass. There will ALWAYS be people who will figure out how to make a buck on any situation going on, including global warming. But if I'm not doing my part just because they figured out a way to eek out some money, does my lack of action make it right?

I'm not about words. I'm about actions. Discussions don't do shit. Actions do. Nuff said.


Well said. So here is what we have going on....I will use new energy efficient bulbs, recycle my cans and bottles, adjust the thermastat 1 degree and be aware of my own actions and feel good about it...meanwhile, Barb will do whatever the fuck she wants, because "there is no crisis."

Big difference.
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