Fuck it...

[Liam]

If HOTS won't do it...I will. Do you feel Deano has been the downfall of the Journey board? Personally...FUCK NO. If ANYTHING he saved it by exposing certain wrong-doings and tried to help fans out. If you believe the OTHER side of that...you're a fuckin' moron.
So...here's the poll (while it lasts)

[Clasicrockldy]

I say no too. Journey caused the downfall of the Journey board. Fans are angry and have every right to feel that way.

[Liam]

Right there with ya, darlin'. Whoever said YES...you might as well have picked "I REALLY AM a fuckin' moron".

[squirt1]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

[Andrew]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

There is not much Journey news to talk about and it is more a gathering point for the many that check this board out. So it is now a general forum/Journey forum.

[Liam]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

You just basically answered your own question. With as much controversy/deceit as there is with this band...it's going to spark EVERONE'S interest. But, in the end, they (Friga and Schon) are just sorry assholes.

MY take on it anyway.

[Perrydise]

Deano bring down the Journey board? Simple answer NO!

[Clasicrockldy]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

[Ms_M]

I say no too. Journey caused the downfall of the Journey board. Fans are angry and have every right to feel that way.

Yup. I'm in on this one. Someone needed to do something that was going to be difficult and Deano did it.

I liked the comment someone made earlier about the guys in the band not ever really growing up. I have said that FOR YEARS about Schon. It was said in no way to diminish or take away from his talent - JMHO.

[Rick]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

There is not much Journey news to talk about and it is more a gathering point for the many that check this board out. So it is now a general forum/Journey forum.

Why not just rename this forum to "The Melodic Rock Asylum", and start a new, empty Journey forum? That way the ordinary people coming to MR would have some kind of warning that they're entering a forum that may not be so tame. You could even put more of a warning in the forum description text. Or do you think everyone would migrate to the new one?

[Distant Voice]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

Simple, Deano is nothing more than a online bully and Andrew bows to the weak I guess ....Andrew has been taking a serious hit lately with ethics, and I have to say it's a "Well Deserved Hit"...(no pun intended Andrew) but seriously,when are you going to take responsibility of your OWN board?... I read this site daily and I have to say nothing has changed in the wake of a change...SAD, BUT TRUE!

Andrew, be careful...What you say now can someday comeback and haunt you!

[Rick]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

Simple, Deano is nothing more than a online bully and Andrew bows to the weak I guess ....Andrew has been taking a serious hit lately with ethics, and I have to say it's a "Well Deserved Hit"...(no pun intended Andrew) but seroiusly,when are you going to take responsibility of your OWN board?... I read this site daily and I have to say nothing has changed is the wake of a change...SAD, BUT TRUE!

Andrew, be careful...

Deano just tells it like it is. If you can't handle that then you might have given up your binky too soon.

[stevew2]

No way. Deano exposed Journey for who they are/were. A band that wants to tour and make money at all costs. Instead of taking a break and let there lead singer Steve Augeri get his voice back,they went on tour anyway. He ruined what voice he left,and lipped while Neal and Friga looked on and even insulted him with comments after the fact about he was a Pro Tools Creation. Then afterwards hired Jeff, lead him on and fired him without any reason ,and didnt have the balls to even tell him to his face. Deano saw the writing on the wall much sooner the most people here.Me included.I was the last person to accept the lipping fiasco. If there is any downfall of this board{and i dont think it is} it is Journey. If they tour and I go see them,I have no desire to meet Neal and Friga again. Depending on the next singer, I might not ever bother to see Journey anyway.I ran up abput $5000.00 on my credit card since 2002 to see Journey. Yes I was entertained, but I also feel ripped off, and I regret spending some of that money on a band that lies to their fans and treats their singers like shit. I thank Deano for the truth.

[Andrew]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

Simple, Deano is nothing more than a online bully and Andrew bows to the weak I guess ....Andrew has been taking a serious hit lately with ethics, and I have to say it's a "Well Deserved Hit"...(no pun intended Andrew) but seriously,when are you going to take responsibility of your OWN board?... I read this site daily and I have to say nothing has changed in the wake of a change...SAD, BUT TRUE!

Andrew, be careful...What you say now can someday comeback and haunt you!

Oooooh Riiiiight.

The guy who has been trying at length to convince a number of people (including me) that you are Steve Perry....and YOU are talking about ethics and well deserved hits? You wanker!

Have you tried to talk any more women back to your lonely lair you masquerading low life. Take a hike....and anyone that has been PMd and thinks this ass clown could actually be Steve Perry can be 100% assured he is nothing but a phoney.

[styxman]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

Simple, Deano is nothing more than a online bully and Andrew bows to the weak I guess ....Andrew has been taking a serious hit lately with ethics, and I have to say it's a "Well Deserved Hit"...(no pun intended Andrew) but seriously,when are you going to take responsibility of your OWN board?... I read this site daily and I have to say nothing has changed in the wake of a change...SAD, BUT TRUE!

Andrew, be careful...What you say now can someday comeback and haunt you!

Oooooh Riiiiight.

The guy who has been trying at length to convince a number of people (including me) that you are Steve Perry....and YOU are talking about ethics and well deserved hits? You wanker!

Have you tried to talk any more women back to your lonely lair you masquerading low life. Take a hike....and anyone that has been PMd and thinks this ass clown could actually be Steve Perry can be 100% assured he is nothing but a phoney.

So that's why you're not getting the SP interview, you've been PMing the wrong guy

Lonely Lair, that's funny as fuck...nice one

[bionic]

If HOTS won't do it...I will. Do you feel Deano has been the downfall of the Journey board? Personally...FUCK NO. If ANYTHING he saved it by exposing certain wrong-doings and tried to help fans out. If you believe the OTHER side of that...you're a fuckin' moron.
So...here's the poll (while it lasts)

The problem is so many people have such hate and anger regarding the band! Yeah Deano certainly likes to shoot off but i tip my hat to him regarding exposing the band that was ripping off the fans!! As soon as you pay for a ticket for a show the band has an obligation to give you what you payed for in this case a live show.If for some reason the singer cannot sing then cancel,sack him or state on the tickets and posters that the singer is miming! Otherwise its fraud

Blaming Deano for the downfall of this board is like only blaming Augeri for tape-gate.

[Sassie]

I voted no. I think Deano is cool. I'll tell you one thing. If I ever needed anybody to defend me. He is the one I would want. I would just stay behind him and holler yeah take that you ass whatever Deano decided to call them. I'm sure it would be ass something. I think he brings broad strokes of color to the board.

[NealIsGod]

Deano is the reason so many people post here. Sure, he raised hell. But what a fuckin' ride it's been. This latest shitstorm has nothing to do with him. Just some lonely hausfrau who needs to get laid.

[Perry86fan]

I said NO as well he told it like it was. Andrew RULES!!! Who ever you are get a life this is his board and he DOSE care about it.

[Moon Beam]

I think many of us had our little fingers in
the typing wars round here. (me included at times)
How can it be blamed on one person.


Can't believe you came out of hiding Distant Voice
to slap Andrew like that......you of all folks critiquing
another's actions.
Go find a mirror and look in it please?

[Liam]

Hmmm...Whatta shock...HOTS hasn't chimed in. I'm BETTING she voted though.

[chf34jmac]

Let's do this chronologically for you all.

1986 - Perry walks out in the middle of tour citing "I'm toast" Fans are pissed
1987 - 1996 Nothing from Journey of any kind. Not even a press release stating "we're retired". Fans are pissed at being left in the dark about what has happened to their favorite band.

1996 - Perry walks out on TBF reunion tour citing hip injury Fans are pissed
1998 - Journey moves on with SA alienating Perry fans who are still pissed and vocal about it.
2006 - Journey attempts to defraud fans with lip synced concerts from a singer they burned out. Fans are pissed
2006 - Journey releases SA citing vocal chord injury. Fans Know the truth and are pissed at the band for lying to cover it up - SA fans pissed and now joined the Perry alienated

2006 - Journey hires JSS, promises new direction, new material and a return to legacy sound. - Fans are cautiously optimistic.
2007 - Journey fire JSS without warning, or reason - Don't even "tell" fans on journey website. Just unceremoniously delete all references to JSS from site. Fans are once again pissed for being led down a path to no where, broken promises, and lies

2007 - Journey once again looking for singers. rumors run rampant about the possibility of a singer with questionable English speaking skills taking the helm. Fans pissed about possibility of "legacy" sound being tainted by a singer with a foreign accent.

The one constant here is Journey leaving fans pissed. No where in any of those time line facts, is Deans' name mentioned. Don't blame Dean for being the one to cause this board's downfall. The band caused it and Dean was the only one ballsy enough to call them on the carpet for it. You don't see them here defending or denying anything Dean has said do you. That in itself should tell you something. And then add to that the sneaky fucker Schon coming on here as "Locknload" to see if things have calmed down and or attempt to stir the pot with his own bullshit singers thread. Tell me who the fuck face is here.

[Granny]

I voted NO..How could one person be the reason! There is just no Journey Band any longer...so therefore nothing to talk about...
It will certainly be interesting to see what they do next, however not waiting with baited-breath.

But on another note, please do not denegate any of their talents.. they are all awesome and made the best music in the world.
I'm really tired of all the bashing..glad it is almost over.!!!!!

[heardonthestreet]

Those who voted yes should of posted here to say why they feel that way....... cowards!

Simple, Deano is nothing more than a online bully and Andrew bows to the weak I guess ....Andrew has been taking a serious hit lately with ethics, and I have to say it's a "Well Deserved Hit"...(no pun intended Andrew) but seriously,when are you going to take responsibility of your OWN board?... I read this site daily and I have to say nothing has changed in the wake of a change...SAD, BUT TRUE!

Andrew, be careful...What you say now can someday comeback and haunt you!

Oooooh Riiiiight.

The guy who has been trying at length to convince a number of people (including me) that you are Steve Perry....and YOU are talking about ethics and well deserved hits? You wanker!

Have you tried to talk any more women back to your lonely lair you masquerading low life. Take a hike....and anyone that has been PMd and thinks this ass clown could actually be Steve Perry can be 100% assured he is nothing but a phoney.

So that's why you're not getting the SP interview, you've been PMing the wrong guy

Lonely Lair, that's funny as fuck...nice one

..........................................................



And let that be a lesson for anyone posting in agreement with me on these issues.

[Perry86fan]

Let's do this chronologically for you all.

1986 - Perry walks out in the middle of tour citing "I'm toast" Fans are pissed
1987 - 1996 Nothing from Journey of any kind. Not even a press release stating "we're retired". Fans are pissed at being left in the dark about what has happened to their favorite band.

1996 - Perry walks out on TBF reunion tour citing hip injury Fans are pissed
1998 - Journey moves on with SA alienating Perry fans who are still pissed and vocal about it.
2006 - Journey attempts to defraud fans with lip synced concerts from a singer they burned out. Fans are pissed
2006 - Journey releases SA citing vocal chord injury. Fans Know the truth and are pissed at the band for lying to cover it up - SA fans pissed and now joined the Perry alienated

2006 - Journey hires JSS, promises new direction, new material and a return to legacy sound. - Fans are cautiously optimistic.
2007 - Journey fire JSS without warning, or reason - Don't even "tell" fans on journey website. Just unceremoniously delete all references to


JSS from site. Fans are once again pissed for being led down a path to no where, broken promises, and lies

2007 - Journey once again looking for singers. rumors run rampant about the possibility of a singer with questionable English speaking skills taking the helm. Fans pissed about possibility of "legacy" sound being tainted by a singer with a foreign accent.

The one constant here is Journey leaving fans pissed. No where in any of those time line facts, is Deans' name mentioned. Don't blame Dean for being the one to cause this board's downfall. The band caused it and Dean was the only one ballsy enough to call them on the carpet for it. You don't see them here defending or denying anything Dean has said do you. That in itself should tell you something. And then add to that the sneaky fucker Schon coming on here as "Locknload" to see if things have calmed down and or attempt to stir the pot with his own bullshit singers thread. Tell me who the fuck face is here.

Boy i must have missed something You really are kidding right???? What a jerk he is if that is the case.

[Rick]

Let's do this chronologically for you all.

1986 - Perry walks out in the middle of tour citing "I'm toast" Fans are pissed
1987 - 1996 Nothing from Journey of any kind. Not even a press release stating "we're retired". Fans are pissed at being left in the dark about what has happened to their favorite band.

1996 - Perry walks out on TBF reunion tour citing hip injury Fans are pissed
1998 - Journey moves on with SA alienating Perry fans who are still pissed and vocal about it.
2006 - Journey attempts to defraud fans with lip synced concerts from a singer they burned out. Fans are pissed
2006 - Journey releases SA citing vocal chord injury. Fans Know the truth and are pissed at the band for lying to cover it up - SA fans pissed and now joined the Perry alienated

2006 - Journey hires JSS, promises new direction, new material and a return to legacy sound. - Fans are cautiously optimistic.
2007 - Journey fire JSS without warning, or reason - Don't even "tell" fans on journey website. Just unceremoniously delete all references to JSS from site. Fans are once again pissed for being led down a path to no where, broken promises, and lies

2007 - Journey once again looking for singers. rumors run rampant about the possibility of a singer with questionable English speaking skills taking the helm. Fans pissed about possibility of "legacy" sound being tainted by a singer with a foreign accent.

The one constant here is Journey leaving fans pissed. No where in any of those time line facts, is Deans' name mentioned. Don't blame Dean for being the one to cause this board's downfall. The band caused it and Dean was the only one ballsy enough to call them on the carpet for it. You don't see them here defending or denying anything Dean has said do you. That in itself should tell you something. And then add to that the sneaky fucker Schon coming on here as "Locknload" to see if things have calmed down and or attempt to stir the pot with his own bullshit singers thread. Tell me who the fuck face is here.

Maybe we can file a class action suit for mental cruelty.

[AR]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

There is not much Journey news to talk about and it is more a gathering point for the many that check this board out. So it is now a general forum/Journey forum.

Phrased perfectly. People come here as an online gathering place. The band formerly known as Journey is a common interest, but they are dead. It's the interection between everyone that drives this board - IMO.

[Perry86fan]

I really can't even understand why the band with the most topics and posts is changed. Can someone explain ?

There is not much Journey news to talk about and it is more a gathering point for the many that check this board out. So it is now a general forum/Journey forum.

Phrased perfectly. People come here as an online gathering place. The band formerly known as Journey is a common interest, but they are dead. It's the interection between everyone that drives this board - IMO.

True so true BYE BYE

[donnaplease]

If HOTS won't do it...I will. Do you feel Deano has been the downfall of the Journey board? Personally...FUCK NO. If ANYTHING he saved it by exposing certain wrong-doings and tried to help fans out. If you believe the OTHER side of that...you're a fuckin' moron.
So...here's the poll (while it lasts)

OK, I'm confused. I haven't been around for a few days, but I did get to read Andrew's thread yesterday. What does Andrew changing the name of this forum have to do with Dean??? As I understand it, Drew's choice was made due to the actions of a disgruntled Journey fan over RECENT events. Dean had very little to do with those recent events. In fact, if I remember correctly, he didn't really say anything negative about the whole situation that lead to this recent shitstorm. So I'm not really sure of the need to poll people to figure out if Dean is responsible for this stuff.

Had this happened a year ago, I might have considered a 'yes' vote. NOT because he did anything wrong as I see it, but because what happened has been SOOO controversial. As it stands today, I see no relationship between Dean and the failure of the forum formerly known as Journey. If anyone is responsible for that downfall, IMO it would be the members of the band and it's management.

Now...if I've missed something (I don't really want to sift through the 25 or so threads that I've not been able to read), please enlighten me. Until then, I would encourage those who voted 'yes' on this poll to show yourselves, and give a justification for your vote.

[Rhiannon]

OK, I'm confused.

Now...if I've missed something (I don't really want to sift through the 25 or so threads that I've not been able to read), please enlighten me. Until then, I would encourage those who voted 'yes' on this poll to show yourselves, and give a justification for your vote.

Donna... you've pretty much not missed much. Same shit, different day.

But yes, all you YES voters, I hope someone slaps you in the face for being so sophomoric.