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Postby StoneCold » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:08 pm

WickedGail wrote:As a mother who buried her child and I'm sure Lula and Dean would agree. I can not for the life of my understand the evil andIi mean pure evil the must be inside someone to be able to take the life of the child you carried inside of you for nine months. Please no one say she's insane I'm so sick of people using that excse for getting away with things. On of my best friends growing up is now a diagnosed parinod Syco/ bi-polar tendencies and he is still a sweet man. It infurriates me when this is used to get away with murder, it makes all mentally ill people look bad. Both of them should fry in HELL! I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks for listening.

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I read the post saying they've confessed. Insane, drugged or just plain mean, I don't care. These TWO scumbags hid her body in a storage unit, then dumped the bin in the ocean like so much trash. That takes planning.

If they do get isolation, I hope to God the guards make prison hell on earth for them. They deserve multiple beatings, some cracked skulls and whatever else can be dished out.

Before she was ever ID'd and I heard about the "Baby Grace" story, it shocked me that not only was this little girl killed but then put in a box in the ocean. You can't make up weirder crap than this.
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Postby StoneCold » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:42 pm

World of Warcraft, gaming site mentions this.

http://news.filefront.com/baby-graces-p ... -warcraft/
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Postby fredinator » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:50 pm

That James Bulger case in England has haunted me for years--LLenny, whatever happened to the 2 boys who did it, do you know?
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Postby StoneCold » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:54 pm

Here's video of forensic artist talking about how she wanted to do the best job she could so they would find out who the child was to catch the killers.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/27/riley. ... nnSTCVideo

There was a custody battle as someone suggested earlier. More proof that it was intentional.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:33 am

StoneCold wrote:World of Warcraft, gaming site mentions this.

http://news.filefront.com/baby-graces-p ... -warcraft/


That was the name of the game that those two idiots were playing on the net. Thanks Stone Cold. I just couldn't remember what the game was called.
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Postby CatEyes » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:09 am

Blue Radio Girl wrote:This is why cruel and unusual punishment should NOT be outlawed. :evil:


Personally I do not support the death penalty.

However, I am a firm believer in torture and pain for those who have committed such a heinous act against such an innocent soul.

God will judge them ........ I just want to play with them for a while.


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Postby Little Lenny » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:16 am

fredinator wrote:That James Bulger case in England has haunted me for years--LLenny, whatever happened to the 2 boys who did it, do you know?

yeah, they got sent down to a young offenders unit, and then once they got to 18/19 they got new identities and are out of prison, and no one knows where abouts. Basically there identities have been protected, and that is wrong.:evil:
They were supposed to be detained for life, but parole for good behavoiur got them out as far as I know...which is wrong.

What cost life eh?

I have lost three babies out of my six, and people like these two, and the people who killed Riley do that and one is her mother!!!, it's sick and unfair! :(
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:29 am

I can't take this.

How anyone can harm kids I can't fathom.

We have people like RockinDeano and Lula LOSE a child and other wacks are doing this.


Edit, I remember the James Bugler case.
Unspeakable, and those 2 dickeaters are OUT now? :evil:


Edit again, Holy SHIT!!! Is that a SMIRK on that bitch's face????!@???!??!! :x

Why? Does it say WHY they did this???
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:50 am

I don't even want to read it.
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Postby SteveForever » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:55 am

NealIsGod wrote:I don't even want to read it.


Me either, :? several years ago in San Diego there was a horrible death of a child that I can't even
relate to you because its so sick. I got so wrapped up for months emotionally trying to make sure that this case stayed
in the media to bring justice for this baby, I can't go there again.
Boyfriends and stepfathers kill more children than any other demographic, its the fact.
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Postby Little Lenny » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:23 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I can't take this.




Edit, I remember the James Bugler case.
Unspeakable, and those 2 dickeaters are OUT now? :evil:







yes some do good in the system obviously thought they should be out, but the consensus of opinion was that they should have remained locked away at her majesties pleasure like the Moors Murderers, until they died.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:13 am

Yep.

The Bastards are out.

Still hunted, by the way, thank God. Wikipiedia has updates on their possible whereabouts as late as this past summer.

This is the single most painful thing I have read in my entire life.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/
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Postby Deb » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:24 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Yep.

The Bastards are out.

Still hunted, by the way, thank God. Wikipiedia has updates on their possible whereabouts as late as this past summer.

This is the single most painful thing I have read in my entire life.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/


I hear ya JoePa. That one stayed with me a while when it happened too. :cry: Those two 10 year olds reminded me of some kind of evil creatures from a twisted Steven King novel or something. :evil: I fully believe in what goes around, comes around......they will somehow get theirs in the end.
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Postby Little Lenny » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:41 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Yep.

The Bastards are out.

Still hunted, by the way, thank God. Wikipiedia has updates on their possible whereabouts as late as this past summer.

This is the single most painful thing I have read in my entire life.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/

it was horrific :(
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Postby Panther » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:48 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:
Perrydise wrote:I just seen an update where they have confessed.

There should be no trial byt then again they will be alive for 10-15 more yrs before they get executed.

This makes me sick. A child is innocent and precious.


Do they have an appeals process in Texas for the death penatly? :? Panther, I know you can answer this!


Yes, it's an automatic appeal. It'll be interesting to see if the DA goes for the death penalty with the state being in a holding pattern waiting on the big robes ruling on an out of state case.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:04 am

Those of us who have religion and are awaitng the foretold "Second Coming" I actually see it in James Bulger and this little girl Baby Grace/Riley as Christ crucified again.

That's what both of these atrocities were is crucifixions, evil on the innocent.

Makes no other sense to me.
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Postby scarygirl » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:39 pm

WickedGail wrote:As a mother who buried her child and I'm sure Lula and Dean would agree. I can not for the life of my understand the evil andIi mean pure evil the must be inside someone to be able to take the life of the child you carried inside of you for nine months. Please no one say she's insane I'm so sick of people using that excse for getting away with things. On of my best friends growing up is now a diagnosed parinod Syco/ bi-polar tendencies and he is still a sweet man. It infurriates me when this is used to get away with murder, it makes all mentally ill people look bad. Both of them should fry in HELL! I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks for listening.

Gail


Thank you. It infuriates me too when I hear the excuse, oh they were abused, oh they're disabled, oh they're mentally ill, like it's some kind of get out of jail card. Like it's inedvitable. I'm telling you, in my own life I have seen and experienced things no one should go through, but I would never take it out on a child. I would cut off my head before I would do that.

The world is just plain discusting. Even more so the people who sit on juries and allow people to walk.
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Postby scarygirl » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:43 pm

Little Lenny wrote:
fredinator wrote:That James Bulger case in England has haunted me for years--LLenny, whatever happened to the 2 boys who did it, do you know?

yeah, they got sent down to a young offenders unit, and then once they got to 18/19 they got new identities and are out of prison, and no one knows where abouts. Basically there identities have been protected, and that is wrong.:evil:
They were supposed to be detained for life, but parole for good behavoiur got them out as far as I know...which is wrong.

What cost life eh?

I have lost three babies out of my six, and people like these two, and the people who killed Riley do that and one is her mother!!!, it's sick and unfair! :(


Personally, I think teenagers who commit horrid acts should be charged as adults. I won't go into details, but I feel it could detour future harm. You shouldn't be allowed to hide rape and murder behind the veil of a "juvenile record."
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Postby Little Lenny » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:49 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Little Lenny wrote:
fredinator wrote:That James Bulger case in England has haunted me for years--LLenny, whatever happened to the 2 boys who did it, do you know?

yeah, they got sent down to a young offenders unit, and then once they got to 18/19 they got new identities and are out of prison, and no one knows where abouts. Basically there identities have been protected, and that is wrong.:evil:
They were supposed to be detained for life, but parole for good behavoiur got them out as far as I know...which is wrong.

What cost life eh?

I have lost three babies out of my six, and people like these two, and the people who killed Riley do that and one is her mother!!!, it's sick and unfair! :(


Personally, I think teenagers who commit horrid acts should be charged as adults. I won't go into details, but I feel it could detour future harm. You shouldn't be allowed to hide rape and murder behind the veil of a "juvenile record."


We have a threshold in our judicial system called the age of responsibility in criminal law, because the boys who did those ghastly things to JB were over the age of 10 which is the age they were criminally responsible.
However, up to a certain age they have to be tried in a juvenile court, and can only be sent to a young offenders Unit, these are prisons in effect but house only Children who have committed crimes.

WE did away with Capital punishment many years ago, as I ahve said in another post, because it became evident in a couple of cases that the wrong person had been hung, a classic example of this was 'The Rillington Place Murders' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Rillington_Place,
and the 'Bentley& Craig affair', which Bentley was supposed to have shot a policeman and hung for it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bentley


However, I do believe that with the advances made in forensics, IE:- DNA testing and the fact as in the Bulger case where it is a definitive yes that it was those people, or that person that did it that they should be executed. Sadly Life in our country doesn't mean life anymore, if you are committed to a life sentence you could serve 10 or 15 years and be out if you behave...I personally do not see the justice in rewarding a person who has committed a murder for any good behavoiur that may come after such atrocity..
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:30 am

Reading through those accounts is a living hell. :( :evil:

38 Fucking people saw James Bulger with his torturers being marched to his murder. :x His head was bleeding and he was crying.
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