More Journey talk...

[treetopovskaya]

why re-record the classics??? i just don't get it! i was even against this when jss was on board. oh well. it just proves they have nothing left to give. i'm not buying it. even if it is arnel who's singing. they just need to leave the classics alone... they aren't broken. if we want to hear classic journey we'll just play the original... with STEVE PERRY !! neal & co must be the biggest dumbasses to ever walk the earth. i'm so happy jss has moved on. instead of being dragged down into the pit of uncreativeness with those fools! is that even a word? i just made it up! }:CPP

[larryfromnextdoor]

I'm envisioning a two-CD package: the new album and re-recorded classics. Packaged together and sold for $11.88 at Wal-Mart, ala The Eagles. Except instead of 700,000+ copies in the first week, Journey should hope for 7,000.

arnel is in a tough place,, i think we all wish him the best, but still ,,,, JSS would have had to do it... Jeremey too.. for some reason i would have cared more..

[chf34jmac]

I think it the botox in his face and friga's beefstick up his shitpipe have finally effected Neals brain.

[Rockindeano]

This ranks up there stupidity wise in the realm of "new coke" "classic coke". Totally fucking retarded. A new album of rehashed rerecorded classics. Do they even have any clue how fucking stupid and pathetic that is?

Interesting take.

New Coke was formed to intentionally fail. Coke was genius and still obviously are, but they introduced an inferior product(New Coke), knowing it would fail and all the customers who tried it, would return in bigger numbers to Original Coke.

Rick, it is not true that they are dead creativily. Neal can still write good stuff and Cain? Well, he is good at what he does. I can only assume they are too lazy to write and learn new shit.

[Aaron]

Fuck, I now have a Amberbock covered monitor. Thanks for that Chief.

I think it the botox in his face and friga's beefstick up his shitpipe have finally effected Neals brain.

[Rockindeano]

I think it the botox in his face and friga's beefstick up his shitpipe have finally effected Neals brain.

I thought you told me the Doctor said to cut back on drinking?

OMFG

[ohsherrie]

So let me get this straight,is there a new album and a re recorded one? Or the new album is the re recorded one?

The new album are the dirty dozen re-recorded to ultimately butcher the originals. Perry was only able to delay this bastardization for 9 years. Thanks for delaying this for the 9 years Stevie.

I never thought this would ever happen, but I'm saying you are so right RF.

[larryfromnextdoor]

So let me get this straight,is there a new album and a re recorded one? Or the new album is the re recorded one?

The new album are the dirty dozen re-recorded to ultimately butcher the originals. Perry was only able to delay this bastardization for 9 years. Thanks for delaying this for the 9 years Stevie.

I never thought this would ever happen, but I'm saying you are so right RF.

[Soto All The Way]

How depressing......

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[chf34jmac]

How depressing? That's all you got?! Bring the heat dude.

[Soto All The Way]

I'm envisioning a two-CD package: the new album and re-recorded classics. Packaged together and sold for $11.88 at Wal-Mart, ala The Eagles. Except instead of 700,000+ copies in the first week, Journey should hope for 7,000.

arnel is in a tough place,, i think we all wish him the best, but still ,,,, JSS would have had to do it... Jeremey too.. for some reason i would have cared more..

Fuck Arnel....he wanted, he got it......Live with it....

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[RedWingFan]

So let me get this straight,is there a new album and a re recorded one? Or the new album is the re recorded one?

The new album are the dirty dozen re-recorded to ultimately butcher the originals. Perry was only able to delay this bastardization for 9 years. Thanks for delaying this for the 9 years Stevie.

I never thought this would ever happen, but I'm saying you are so right RF.

I know it's amazing Larry! She doesn't realize I'm ALWAYS right!

[bluejeangirl76]

Talk is that Mr. Perry had a 9 year deal where he had a say in what the band could do with the classic material and that has only just now expired

What is it about that that I'm missing? Could be a medicine induced fog clouding logic for me but why would he ever agree to give up his say in his own work? And why such a weird number? 9? Wtf? Either that was a monster of a payday or I missed something. But, either way, what's done is done, and I supposed if that was the deal then Journey is truly free to take it and fuck it all up if they so choose, and apparently, they have chosen as such.

[TRAGChick]

Re-recording the classics...what a fuckin joke.I'm better off buying some karoke cds and singing the shit myself,that way it would bring a smile to my face anyway.The kid can sing but whats the point ,christ almighty......

turn the oven off....I'm done !! my .02

Dude...this made me LMAO!!! Check your MySpace....

[larryfromnextdoor]

I'm envisioning a two-CD package: the new album and re-recorded classics. Packaged together and sold for $11.88 at Wal-Mart, ala The Eagles. Except instead of 700,000+ copies in the first week, Journey should hope for 7,000.

arnel is in a tough place,, i think we all wish him the best, but still ,,,, JSS would have had to do it... Jeremey too.. for some reason i would have cared more..

Fuck Arnel....he wanted, he got it......Live with it....

e-

well,, what awoke this sleeping giant...

[The Sushi Hunter]

So why is Journey so interested in Arnel? What is their motivation? Arnel is just a singer who's seemed to be involved with music most of his life, and anyone who fits that category in ambition would jump on an offer like that, to sing for Journey. I know I would have if I was singing in a band and had my vids posted up on YouTube and Journey contacted me to sing for them.

So why is Journey interested in Arnel? I'm thinking that either Arnel won't demand the high pay as most American singers would, or perhaps Journey is tired of working with guys with chips on their shoulders and/or guys who want to go into the band and make everything their way or the high way. I'm not sure I've read anyone's opinion on why Journey is interested in Arnel, but I would like to.

[chf34jmac]

Oh shit! Here we go again.

[Rick]

So why is Journey so interested in Arnel? What is their motivation? Arnel is just a singer who's seemed to be involved with music most of his life, and anyone who fits that category in ambition would jump on an offer like that, to sing for Journey. I know I would have if I was singing in a band and had my vids posted up on YouTube and Journey contacted me to sing for them.

So why is Journey interested in Arnel? I'm thinking that either Arnel won't demand the high pay as most American singers would, or perhaps Journey is tired of working with guys with chips on their shoulders and/or guys who want to go into the band and make everything their way or the high way. I'm not sure I've read anyone's opinion on why Journey is interested in Arnel, but I would like to.

They like him because he can cover their songs well. He'll go on tour with them and the people in the audience will love what they hear. Journey's only solid source of income anymore is touring. They were doing well with Augeri, but his voice crapped out, so they needed to replace him. They could have gone with Soto, but that would have required some work on their part, so they took the easy way out by hiring what they think is a Perry soundalike to tour the back catalog with.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

They like him because he can cover their songs well. He'll go on tour with them and the people in the audience will love what they hear. Journey's only solid source of income anymore is touring. They were doing well with Augeri, but his voice crapped out, so they needed to replace him. They could have gone with Soto, but that would have required some work on their part, so they took the easy way out by hiring what they think is a Perry soundalike to tour the back catalog with.

Pretty spot-on summary, IMO. Maybe throw in one obligatory, poor-selling album and call it a career.

[conversationpc]

They like him because he can cover their songs well. He'll go on tour with them and the people in the audience will love what they hear. Journey's only solid source of income anymore is touring. They were doing well with Augeri, but his voice crapped out, so they needed to replace him. They could have gone with Soto, but that would have required some work on their part, so they took the easy way out by hiring what they think is a Perry soundalike to tour the back catalog with.

If it's true that this dude sings as often as I've heard that he does, he'll either end up blowing out his voice or he'll be able to sing two hour shows five nights a week for an extended period of time. After a couple years of that, THEN he will blow out his voice.

[Deb]

why re-record the classics??? i just don't get it! i was even against this when jss was on board. oh well. it just proves they have nothing left to give. i'm not buying it. even if it is arnel who's singing. they just need to leave the classics alone... they aren't broken. if we want to hear classic journey we'll just play the original... with STEVE PERRY !! neal & co must be the biggest dumbasses to ever walk the earth. i'm so happy jss has moved on. instead of being dragged down into the pit of uncreativeness with those fools! is that even a word? i just made it up! }:CPP

Me too! Heck we have new material to look forward to of Jeff's.

Journey = yawn........

[Lula]

Oh shit! Here we go again.

LOL! So calm.

I have met both post Perry singers and I can say they absolutely do not have chips on their shoulders, both very humble men. geez

[Red13JoePa]

Hopefully there are a good many NON greatest hits.

I'll be buying it. I'm initrigued to see what new takes Neal and Castro"Bro"-o and to a lesser extent Cain bring to the old songs. Still gotta get Chalfont's too.

[strangegrey]

I still defy anyone, given this new information to disagree with me that this band is completely fucking DONE!

Given what Andrew just revealed, I concur with Deano....this new album *is* the rerecording of the classics.
5 weeks to redo songs that should have never been touched! I guess they needed a speech pathologist in there with Arnel while recording this shit...

Back to the Legacy sound, eh Cain? What a fucking joke! This begs the question...is Journey LOOKING to bury their fucking legacy? Because whatever damage they did to this bands legacy will pale in comparison to the end result of this rediculousness


What these fucktards seemingly fail to realize is that they are setting themselves up for failure...on a number of levels. First, I don't give a fuck who you are, there isn't a singer on this planet that is going to match or best Steve Perry in his prime. However, releasing a rerecorded album of classics will FORCE people to make the comparison. Would any of you people take Arnel now over Perry in 1981? Because if any of you answer yes to that question, you're fucking high! I would go out on a limb and say there's probably one person out of 1,000,000 that would answer yes to the above question....and that phoenix-loving joker was banned from this very site a few months ago.....

The fact of the matter is that, given the recipe for failure, I'm shocked they are putting ANY effort into this.

Journey doesn't have the assets and retained earnings (hell, Journey's probably operating with negative retained earnings) that the coca-cola corporation has....they CAN'T be doing this with the same game plan as new vs old coke. They're not that stupid....the New Coke game cost CocaCola money to put into play. Journey doesn't have the cash to pull a bait and switch here...

They're really going to do this and try to support it!!

Are they fucking high!?!!?


Jesus...I'm fucking without words...well, I am now.

Fucking band....fuck them....why are we even here posting....go to the JSS forum, people...now!!!

Herbie's rolling in his grave and he's not even dead yet!

[raisedonfaith]

So I'm still curious if this means a new album AND classics or just the classics. Andrew, would you mind clarifying your message?

[Deb]

So why is Journey interested in Arnel? I'm thinking that either Arnel won't demand the high pay as most American singers would, or perhaps Journey is tired of working with guys with chips on their shoulders and/or guys who want to go into the band and make everything their way or the high way. I'm not sure I've read anyone's opinion on why Journey is interested in Arnel, but I would like to.

That's where IMO I think you're wrong. Obviously Journey is at their best creatively when there is a little friction. Perry stood up to Neal and co and there was some push and pull. I believe Soto could have brought that same creative friction. They want somebody that can cover Perry, no push no pull, and just tour the dirty dozen forever.

[Andrew]

Um, the new album IS the re recording of the classics, I believe. Of course it is ready to go soon, they better know their own music! They could've recorded the classics with JSS in a weekend.

Do you think so? I read Andrew's post to mean the next Journey album is ready to go AND they're re-recording the classics. Maybe he can clarify...

1 album ready only. An album of re-recorded greatest hits. No new material ready at this point in time. That's what I hear from 2 different sources.

[Rockindeano]

Herbie's rolling in his grave and he's not even dead yet!

Herbie can roll?

He is the only guy I know who can walk down a cement corridor and you can see a newly formed valley where he walked.

[ProgRocker53]

The only way I'd be interested is if it was a re-recording of non-hits.

If they re-record The Dirty Dozen it'd be shameful and disgusting..

If they re-record, however, songs like "La Raza Del Sol," "Troubled Child," "Sweet and Simple," "Winds of March," "Precious Time," etc...

...I'd be a LITTLE interested.


EDIT----

So, it IS the greatest hits. That's a load of some bullshit.

[m]

Hopefully there are a good many NON greatest hits.

I'll be buying it. I'm initrigued to see what new takes Neal and Castro"Bro"-o and to a lesser extent Cain bring to the old songs. Still gotta get Chalfont's too.

Well if you do, could you please upload it so i can pirate it -
(& then go confess my sins, of course. what was that website?...)