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Postby StoneCold » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:48 pm

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the neal people



Speakin of which, where's "Neal Is God" aka NIG, NIGGY?
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Postby Matthew » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:01 am

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And it's not because I want anything at all to do with what's calling itself Journey now. I know of several other people that applies to also.


:roll: Jesus Christ, we get it. You don't like Journey without Perry. My God, give it a fucking rest already.


Yep, it was Journey before Perry and it's Journey after. Journey was more successful with Perry, but Van Halen was more successful with Hagar. Doesn't make it any less Van Halen without Hagar.



Rick - I guess that is logical but come on....I'd hardly compare the success of the DLR line-up of Van Halen with that of the Augeri line-up of Journey...or the 70s prog line-up...or JSS's brief stint in the band...or the current Arnel line-up.

Let's be honest...both the DLR and Hagar line-ups 'stood up on their own two feet'. Journey have never accomplished this before or after Perry...
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Postby perryfaithful » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:56 am

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Rick - I guess that is logical but come on....I'd hardly compare the success of the DLR line-up of Van Halen with that of the Augeri line-up of Journey...or the 70s prog line-up...or JSS's brief stint in the band...or the current Arnel line-up.

Let's be honest...both the DLR and Hagar line-ups 'stood up on their own two feet'. Journey have never accomplished this before or after Perry...



Agree!
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:12 am

StoneCold wrote:
sniper16 wrote:

the neal people



Speakin of which, where's "Neal Is God" aka NIG, NIGGY?


He joined a cult. Sucks to be him.
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Postby styxman » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:49 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
And it's not because I want anything at all to do with what's calling itself Journey now. I know of several other people that applies to also.


:roll: Jesus Christ, we get it. You don't like Journey without Perry. My God, give it a fucking rest already.


Yep, it was Journey before Perry and it's Journey after. Journey was more successful with Perry, but Van Halen was more successful with Hagar. Doesn't make it any less Van Halen without Hagar.



Rick - I guess that is logical but come on....I'd hardly compare the success of the DLR line-up of Van Halen with that of the Augeri line-up of Journey...or the 70s prog line-up...or JSS's brief stint in the band...or the current Arnel line-up.

Let's be honest...both the DLR and Hagar line-ups 'stood up on their own two feet'. Journey have never accomplished this before or after Perry...


Just like Chicago made the transition from Cetera to Scheff....truth is, these other bands who have changed the frontman, made pretty fuckin' sure they had the right replacement and gave them time to integrate. As for Toto, they seem to hold the secret to rotating band members and it works each time.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:52 am

Rockindeano wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
sniper16 wrote:

the neal people



Speakin of which, where's "Neal Is God" aka NIG, NIGGY?


He joined a cult. Sucks to be him.


I saw that the other day. I'm surprised and disappointed.

Oh well.
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Postby slucero » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:16 am

Sarah wrote:
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slucero wrote:over 100,000 MySpace adds

Only a small percentage of those are diehards or probably even people who know more songs than DSB and AWYWI.


... and you have proof of this how....

TBH you're fooling yourself if you truly believe that most of those 100,000 people know much more than the greatest hits. Do you have proof that they do? Journey's Myspace is likely a true sample of the full fanbase.



Sorry... I wasn't the one who said I "believed" they knew one song or 50.... I simply stated the number of adds.... which is fact. No proof needed.

You however DID make a statement that, and without the "proof" I asked you to provide, that statement is merely your opinion.... or a lie.. but I do "believe" in this case its just your opinion.

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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:36 am

slucero wrote:
Sarah wrote:
slucero wrote:
Sarah wrote:
slucero wrote:over 100,000 MySpace adds

Only a small percentage of those are diehards or probably even people who know more songs than DSB and AWYWI.


... and you have proof of this how....

TBH you're fooling yourself if you truly believe that most of those 100,000 people know much more than the greatest hits. Do you have proof that they do? Journey's Myspace is likely a true sample of the full fanbase.



Sorry... I wasn't the one who said I "believed" they knew one song or 50.... I simply stated the number of adds.... which is fact. No proof needed.

You however DID make a statement that, and without the "proof" I asked you to provide, that statement is merely your opinion.... or a lie.. but I do "believe" in this case its just your opinion.


There are ALOT more people that are aware of more than the chart-topping hits than one might think.
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Postby Matthew » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:08 am

styxman wrote:
Just like Chicago made the transition from Cetera to Scheff....truth is, these other bands who have changed the frontman, made pretty fuckin' sure they had the right replacement and gave them time to integrate. As for Toto, they seem to hold the secret to rotating band members and it works each time.


Styxman - did the transition to Scheff really work out? I know that had some chart success after the 17 album - but nothing that has gone on to achieve classic status like the hits from the Cetera era.

As for Toto...well, I guess they've managed that by never employing an all-time legend as a frontman. All the singers - good as they were - all fit into that anonymous session guy ethos, didn't they?
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Postby styxman » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:14 am

Matthew wrote:
styxman wrote:
Just like Chicago made the transition from Cetera to Scheff....truth is, these other bands who have changed the frontman, made pretty fuckin' sure they had the right replacement and gave them time to integrate. As for Toto, they seem to hold the secret to rotating band members and it works each time.


Styxman - did the transition to Scheff really work out? I know that had some chart success after the 17 album - but nothing that has gone on to achieve classic status like the hits from the Cetera era.

As for Toto...well, I guess they've managed that by never employing an all-time legend as a frontman. All the singers - good as they were - all fit into that anonymous session guy ethos, didn't they?


Sorry Matt, I wasn't looking at it from a Hit point of view, just how well the band continued on after Cetera. Funny to hear Simon Cowell state the other night how stuck in its time... 'If you leave me....' was. I don't always agree with what comes out of his mouth but that Chicago track just can't be brought up to date, poor young girl that tried to cover went out :shock: I no way watch AI, it just happened to be on when I flicked channels :lol:
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