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Postby wildone » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:23 pm

Now that would be a breath of fresh air!!!There's to much watered down 80's crap going on right now!!
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Postby X factor » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:39 pm

7 Wishes wrote:I don't care if it's a collection of Manilow covers. I would still buy it.


ESPECIALLY if it were a collection of Manilow covers! I'd love to hear him rocking out on EVEN NOW or MANDY!!!!
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Postby Deb » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:19 am

fredinator wrote:Dave, I agree with you for once, LOL!! It's natural that Lora and Cyndy are biased--I think they are his friends; we are biased because we are fans of his and Journey's. It IS a little tiresome about playing demos, he has Journey dear to his heart, doesn't know what he's going to do with the demos, etc. Everybody (his fans) get all pumped and then there's a big, fat vacuum. It's kind of weird.


They didn't post this to get everyone all pumped? :? Lora even stated that SP doesn't know what he is going to do with them so it wasn't even mentioned before. He might just be playing around in the studio. I think they posted regarding HH saying SP can't sing anymore and they know for a fact he can. If something comes of these I would definitely be a happy camper :mrgreen: , but there won't be a big vacuum if it doesn't. It's his life, who are we to tell him how to live it. :?

LOL gawd I obviously need a coffee this morning. :lol: :twisted: :shock:
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:21 am

Thanks, Cyndy & Lora!

Props, love and respect for handling this post with true class and dignity, as always.

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:23 am

X factor wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:I don't care if it's a collection of Manilow covers. I would still buy it.


ESPECIALLY if it were a collection of Manilow covers! I'd love to hear him rocking out on EVEN NOW or MANDY!!!!


Where's Saint John? He would dig this. :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:23 am

Deb wrote:
fredinator wrote:Dave, I agree with you for once, LOL!! It's natural that Lora and Cyndy are biased--I think they are his friends; we are biased because we are fans of his and Journey's. It IS a little tiresome about playing demos, he has Journey dear to his heart, doesn't know what he's going to do with the demos, etc. Everybody (his fans) get all pumped and then there's a big, fat vacuum. It's kind of weird.


They didn't post this to get everyone all pumped? :? Lora even stated that SP doesn't know what he is going to do with them so it wasn't even mentioned before. He might just be playing around in the studio. I think they posted regarding HH saying SP can't sing anymore and they know for a fact he can. If something comes of these I would definitely be a happy camper :mrgreen: , but there won't be a big vacuum if it doesn't. It's his life, who are we to tell him how to live it. :?

LOL gawd I obviously need a coffee this morning. :lol: :twisted: :shock:


here, here!!! YOU are absolutely right and I have had my coffee!! :wink:
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Postby Lady Luck » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:38 am

X factor wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:I don't care if it's a collection of Manilow covers. I would still buy it.


ESPECIALLY if it were a collection of Manilow covers! I'd love to hear him rocking out on EVEN NOW or MANDY!!!!


Being a closet Barry Manilow fan, I would LOVE to hear him cover "Mandy."
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:47 am

StyxCollector wrote:I don't know Lora or Cyndi. I don't believe they have a dog in this fight.


Laughable how some people refuse to see the fact that Perry is a client of Fan Asylum. To suggest that Lora or Cyndi's relaying of Perry news is either unbiased or not without some level of intent, is ignorant of several key issues here.

Like Dave said, *no* one is unbiased in this stupid horseshit smelling pissing match. Especially current and former players in it. That includes the band's former manager and the singer's press agency. Herbie's made it perfectly clear that he's 100% retired, yet some completely dense folks here somehow feel it's not ok for the man to keep his ear to the ground and keep a working knowledge of a business that he still has a financial interest in. Such hypocracy exists because the same above mentioned posters expect to view Lora and Cyndi's contributions here as completely unbiased and without intent. Laughable.


Moving on past the Balls and into the (vomit) chunk of this thread:

If Perry's got music to put out there....then great. Put it out there for us to consume. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what he does. He wants his privacy, and I'm more than happy to give it to him. Shit or get off the crapper is what I say. I'm sick and tired of artists who playfully say with a wink "I do miss performing so much" and then at a high school reunion, tell old classmates that their fans better get used to him being 'missed'. He's talking out of one side of his mouth and shitting out of the other. Same old Perry if you ask me.

So, if he's writing/recording this music for personal edification. GREAT. Love to hear that the old dog still has a working prostate. But hearing this news through his press agents reeks of bullshit to me...and I'm just fucking sick of the bullshit. I've heard it from the man for 20 fucking years, and I'm just sick of it. 99.99% of rational human beings out there write someone off after a few years of bullshit. Why is it that Perry fans cant do the same?

Until Perry actually contributes music to this dog and pony, his words are no more or less 'words' than the words spewed around here or other sites on the internet. Words are words. either back them up or you just expose yourself as a fraud. Plain and simple.


Also, one thing to add....since I get the distinct impression that this 'press release' was in response to Herbie's assertions about Perry having to sing in dropped keys. I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert or the 94 FTLOSM tour. In both cases, the songs WERE IN FACT sung in dropped keys. Hell, ask any guitarist. Transposing Dont Stop Believing any lower than E, unless you use a guitar with dropped tuning, (and that has it's limitations too) is a bitch. Why put Schon through such a pain in the ass process if not for one of two reasons A) you want to stick it to schon (which I wouldn't put past perry) or B) you cant fucking sing the song in the original key.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:52 am

strangegrey wrote:I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert...


I've never even seen this out there. Is it?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:55 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
strangegrey wrote:I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert...


I've never even seen this out there. Is it?


Is that a Virginia Slims 120 menthol light that Don is smoking in your av? :wink:
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Postby epresley » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:56 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
strangegrey wrote:I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert...


I've never even seen this out there. Is it?


Is that a Virginia Slims 120 menthol light that Don is smoking in your av? :wink:



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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:58 am

The videos are out there. Several used to be on youtube. I'm sure Perry's legal team had them removed. LOL. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, since they do *not* show him in a very good light. In fact, if Herbie's recent interview got Perry charged up enough to slit open the wallet wide enough to go have lunch with Fan Asylum to rebuke the interview, I would bet my left nut on it.

Regardless, there *are* people in Journey lala land that has them. It's just a question of whether or not someone has enough 'sack' to show Perry not doing the music any justice.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:59 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
strangegrey wrote:I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert...


I've never even seen this out there. Is it?


It's been posted before. Mr. "keeper of the legacy" Perry, according to Herbie, asked them to write down the lyrics for DSB and then proceeded to fuck up the words to Faithfully. He sounded very average in that show. He also seemed disoriented and as if he may have been hitting the sauce. Someone please post it...not to trash the man but to show a very average performance. This is the only time where I saw him sing without his cape on. Save this mini-gig, I have never seen nor heard the man have anything but a spectacular performance.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:00 am

btw, let me add. The above comments are in reference to the Bill Graham concert. There are some videos from the Beacon Theatre show (which I was in attendance) where Perry *did* do the material justice, although he did so 1/2 key lower.

The kep drop at the Bill Graham memorial was at least 1 full step, if not more....and that show had some bad singing.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:11 am

Saint John wrote:This is the only time where I saw him sing without his cape on.


LOL!

Sshhh, Dont let em think he's human. This place might explode and form a rift in the space-time continuum.
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Postby Deb » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:20 am

strangegrey wrote:So, if he's writing/recording this music for personal edification. GREAT. Love to hear that the old dog still has a working prostate. But hearing this news through his press agents reeks of bullshit to me...and I'm just fucking sick of the bullshit. I've heard it from the man for 20 fucking years, and I'm just sick of it. 99.99% of rational human beings out there write someone off after a few years of bullshit. Why is it that Perry fans cant do the same?

Until Perry actually contributes music to this dog and pony, his words are no more or less 'words' than the words spewed around here or other sites on the internet. Words are words. either back them up or you just expose yourself as a fraud. Plain and simple.




1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.

2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?

3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P
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Postby Deb » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:21 am

strangegrey wrote:btw, let me add. The above comments are in reference to the Bill Graham concert. There are some videos from the Beacon Theatre show (which I was in attendance) where Perry *did* do the material justice, although he did so 1/2 key lower.

The key drop at the Bill Graham memorial was at least 1 full step, if not more....and that show had some bad singing.


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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:22 am

strangegrey wrote:
Saint John wrote:This is the only time where I saw him sing without his cape on.


LOL!

Sshhh, Dont let em think he's human. This place might explode and form a rift in the space-time continuum.


Frank, I used to be one of "them" until I heard that performance. :wink:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:49 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
strangegrey wrote:I emplore any musician to review videos of the Bill Graham concert...


I've never even seen this out there. Is it?


this is the Bill Graham concert video of Faithfully and Lights..i got from Shania a few years ago.. very historic..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 570A430692
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:55 am

Hey, thanks for bullet-pointing this for me:

Deb wrote:1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.



Yeah, ok. whatever. Who paid for the lunch? Did they go dutch? Perry's a client of Fan Asylum. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to believe it was just a friendly lunch without an agenda and Herbie's interview was chock full of intent, go ahead. It hasn't been the first time I've seen someone here get spoonfed watery dogshit and go "MMMM, chocolate pudding, yum!"


Deb wrote:2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?


Perry has made it very clear he wants to remain in private lfe. When questioned about returning, he either skirts the question or responds with a coy "I think about touring alot", or "I miss singing", etc. Knowing exactly how psycho his fan base is, this is just enough to get them hoping for another 20 fucking years. The fucking guy is going to be dead, burried and digested worm food and there will be loons holding seances looking to get this guy back on stage. The fact remains that Steve Perry is behind only Axl Rose in false suggestions regarding his music career. The only difference is that Rose has actually seen a stage in the past 14 years.

Again, this ties to your above mentioned #1. You think Perry innocently played a demo for a few friends without such news making it here, of all places, you're on crack. And if you think Perry's doesn't know that, you're on Draino too. So who are we kidding here?

I stand by my original statement...either this guy needs to go away and stop using his press agents as bullhorns for coy suggestive "remember about wittle ole me" quips or get the fuck out on a stage and back up these coy statements. Anything in the middle only causes a bunch of loons to start swooning about the what ifs and making those with reality in their corner roll their eyes, grab a comfort bag and heave into it. I'm sick of Bile. It's got a nasty taste to it.


Deb wrote:3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P


I didn't say he cant sing. Herbie did....and Herbie's so-called agenda laden interview was enough to get Perry all charged up to have a business lunch to start touting new warez he'll never sell. So who's the ones with the issues?

The last thing I care about is Perry singing or not singing, until I see a new CD with his name on it. Until then, it's all watery dogshit...and I know the difference between that and pudding!
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Postby ForeverInBlue » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:03 am

Frank, bud, you have as much anger towards Perry as HH. Chill.

Edit to add a point: I do believe that the FA camp doesn't post anything that means nothing. :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:03 am

strangegrey wrote:If Perry's got music to put out there....then great. Put it out there for us to consume. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what he does. He wants his privacy, and I'm more than happy to give it to him. Shit or get off the crapper is what I say. I'm sick and tired of artists who playfully say with a wink "I do miss performing so much" and then at a high school reunion, tell old classmates that their fans better get used to him being 'missed'. He's talking out of one side of his mouth and shitting out of the other. Same old Perry if you ask me.


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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:05 am

Touching on what Frank said, I can guarantee you that Herbert knew that the "Perry can't sing anymore" comment would make it back to him via Team Perry. I, for one, love the fact that Herbie is flat out fucking with him. I await Perry's rebuttal. Oh wait, we already got it. :lol: :twisted: :P :wink:
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Postby ForeverInBlue » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:06 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
strangegrey wrote:If Perry's got music to put out there....then great. Put it out there for us to consume. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what he does. He wants his privacy, and I'm more than happy to give it to him. Shit or get off the crapper is what I say. I'm sick and tired of artists who playfully say with a wink "I do miss performing so much" and then at a high school reunion, tell old classmates that their fans better get used to him being 'missed'. He's talking out of one side of his mouth and shitting out of the other. Same old Perry if you ask me.


This is mighty hard to argue with.


You've got proof of this inside info, Frank? Don't be like the rest who say something and have zero shit to back it up. :roll:
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Postby Deb » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:11 am

Deb wrote:1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.



strangegrey wrote:Yeah, ok. whatever. Who paid for the lunch? Did they go dutch? Perry's a client of Fan Asylum. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to believe it was just a friendly lunch without an agenda and Herbie's interview was chock full of intent, go ahead. It hasn't been the first time I've seen someone here get spoonfed watery dogshit and go "MMMM, chocolate pudding, yum!"


Sounds like the lunch was before HH's interview, so there goes that theory. Besides, I'm sure they've had many friendly lunches over the years. You are reading a lot more into this than there is. :?


Deb wrote:2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?




strangegrey wrote:I stand by my original statement...either this guy needs to go away and stop using his press agents as bullhorns for coy suggestive "remember about wittle ole me" quips or get the fuck out on a stage and back up these coy statements. Anything in the middle only causes a bunch of loons to start swooning about the what ifs and making those with reality in their corner roll their eyes, grab a comfort bag and heave into it. I'm sick of Bile. It's got a nasty taste to it.


LOL after this paragraph, I don't think it's the loons he's gotta worry about.

Deb wrote:3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P


strangegrey wrote:I didn't say he cant sing. Herbie did....and Herbie's so-called agenda laden interview was enough to get Perry all charged up to have a business lunch to start touting new warez he'll never sell. So who's the ones with the issues?

The last thing I care about is Perry singing or not singing, until I see a new CD with his name on it. Until then, it's all watery dogshit...and I know the difference between that and pudding!


So if you don't care if he can sing or not and it's all watery dogshit, why so much anger.....move on then. :?
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:13 am

ForeverInBlue wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
strangegrey wrote:If Perry's got music to put out there....then great. Put it out there for us to consume. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what he does. He wants his privacy, and I'm more than happy to give it to him. Shit or get off the crapper is what I say. I'm sick and tired of artists who playfully say with a wink "I do miss performing so much" and then at a high school reunion, tell old classmates that their fans better get used to him being 'missed'. He's talking out of one side of his mouth and shitting out of the other. Same old Perry if you ask me.


This is mighty hard to argue with.


You've got proof of this inside info, Frank? Don't be like the rest who say something and have zero shit to back it up. :roll:


Proof? I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did. Frank did the exact same thing.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:15 am

ForeverInBlue wrote:Frank, bud, you have as much anger towards Perry as HH. Chill.


No I dont. I will also state that there isn't a friggin person alive or dead that can sing better than Perry did in his prime...and 99% of the poeple out there aren't fit to whipe his ass with their vocal cords now.

That's not the issue here, or my point of contention. It's how irresponsibly Perry conducts himself with regards to his fans. Either drop the hell off the map or step back on it. For 20 years he's been purposely off the map...and whenver something juicy happens, he makes sure theres this 'subtle' tip toe back onto it for a little bit...just to get the Loons to soak their granny panties one more time. It pisses me off. He knows what he's doing. Hell, maybe even the loons know...but no one seems to care.

Either put some music out or not...but stop going 'I think about touring all the time'...as for the comment regarding perry's insistance that fans get used to him being gone, Sorry. My source is protected there. Either discount its validity using your own filters or take it with whatever grain of salt you wish. Its validity is not integral to my assertions.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:19 am

a better version of the bill Lights video.. im having fun.. 8)

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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:20 am

Deb wrote:Sounds like the lunch was before HH's interview, so there goes that theory. Besides, I'm sure they've had many friendly lunches over the years. You are reading a lot more into this than there is. :?


You're making an assumption.


Deb wrote:2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?


Oh gawd, listen. tell you what. You believe what you want to believe, I'll believe what i want to believe. The indirect comments that he's made on the BTM, the walk ceremony, the white sox interviews and the many press releases facilitated by Insane Asylum seem to fly right over your head, eh? I guess our reality is really a product of our own psychosis.

Deb wrote:So if you don't care if he can sing or not and it's all watery dogshit, why so much anger.....move on then. :?


Listen, to quote Herb, I have zero dog in this fight. If you need to cast daily illusions about Perry making a triumphant return from the grave to help you get out of bed in the morning. I'm not going to stop you. Whatever makes it work for you. But like I said, reading it here and seeing the hypocracy regarding the charges against Herbie from someone who's got Perry as a fucking client, is too much for me to hold back the stomach juices from surging out of my throat. I'm sick of bile.
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