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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:30 am

Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Deb wrote:
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Memorex wrote:What right do you have to accuse anyone of being less than forthright?


Bwahahaha....because the news originated from Steve Perry (v his promotional 'tools'). Hell, that'd stand up in most courts without a legal path to appeal.


Very unf*cking cool! Calling L&C tools?! :evil:


well, it certainly was not meant in the way that *you* interpreted it. Lay down your rediculous assumptions. In this particular case, promotional people = tools. i.e. items that a person uses to get a job done.



Ya ok, why just quote the word 'tools' then, how should that have been interpreted? :roll: I'm not an idiot, Frank.


Deb, the fact that the word "promotional" preceded the word "tools" made it crystal clear as to which definition of the word was applicable, and it certainly wasn't the derogatory meaning.
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Postby brywool » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:32 am

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strangegrey wrote:If Perry's got music to put out there....then great. Put it out there for us to consume. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what he does. He wants his privacy, and I'm more than happy to give it to him. Shit or get off the crapper is what I say. I'm sick and tired of artists who playfully say with a wink "I do miss performing so much" and then at a high school reunion, tell old classmates that their fans better get used to him being 'missed'. He's talking out of one side of his mouth and shitting out of the other. Same old Perry if you ask me.


This is mighty hard to argue with.


Definitely. The only person who said he can't sing anymore is HH. He CAN sing, but not in the keys that Journey wrote the songs. This means that unless Journey lowered the keys (and I'm assuming at this point a lot more than just a half step) that Perry could NOT tour with Journey or even sing those songs. On his solo tour, everything was at least a half step lower. On those shows, he still sang those songs good in those keys, HOWEVER if Arnel, JSS, or (GASP!) Augeri did those songs in lower keys and with some of the changes that Perry did to the phrasing and notes, everybody would say how those singers ruined the tunes and couldn't do them like Perr-Ney did. You know what? Perry can't do them like Perry did either. That's the way it goes. Doesn't mean he can't sing. Means he can't sing those songs in those keys.

Niggy's monkey wrench comment kind of fits. Somebody always drags Perry out just as Journey is planning to do something new. It may NOT be intentional, but it's sure strange how that always happens. Also, the Nuno stories have gone around since just after FTLOSM came out. We've not heard those tracks either. We'll probably never hear the tracks, and that's okay too. But to constantly say "I really want to do something and I think about it all the time" is getting really REALLY old and somewhat embarrassing.

Thanks for sharing that he's got demos. That's great news. Seriously, he should release them to shut doubters up. I'm a fan, but I'm also a doubter. I don't care if he OR Journey tours again, though I really want to check out Arnel live. I just want to hear new recorded music. Jeez, The Beatles quit touring at the height of their career, but they still put out amazing albums after they left the road. Why can't Perry?
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Postby Deb » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:34 am

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Memorex wrote:What right do you have to accuse anyone of being less than forthright?


Bwahahaha....because the news originated from Steve Perry (v his promotional 'tools'). Hell, that'd stand up in most courts without a legal path to appeal.


Very unf*cking cool! Calling L&C tools?! :evil:


well, it certainly was not meant in the way that *you* interpreted it. Lay down your rediculous assumptions. In this particular case, promotional people = tools. i.e. items that a person uses to get a job done.



Ya ok, why just quote the word 'tools' then, how should that have been interpreted? :roll: I'm not an idiot, Frank.


Deb, the fact that the word "promotional" preceded the word "tools" made it crystal clear as to which definition of the word was applicable, and it certainly wasn't the derogatory meaning.


If that is truly how he meant it, then....my bad. My question is though, why put quotes around the word "tools" if you didn't mean it to be interpreted that way?
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Postby tammy » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:37 am

Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:So, if he's writing/recording this music for personal edification. GREAT. Love to hear that the old dog still has a working prostate. But hearing this news through his press agents reeks of bullshit to me...and I'm just fucking sick of the bullshit. I've heard it from the man for 20 fucking years, and I'm just sick of it. 99.99% of rational human beings out there write someone off after a few years of bullshit. Why is it that Perry fans cant do the same?

Until Perry actually contributes music to this dog and pony, his words are no more or less 'words' than the words spewed around here or other sites on the internet. Words are words. either back them up or you just expose yourself as a fraud. Plain and simple.




1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.

2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?

3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P



That last one #3 makes perfect sense. I swear, it's not the "Perry loons" who are obsessed. I only hope Lora & Cyndy still want to post messages here or anywhere! They sure get a lot of disrespect when they do. Sheesh!
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:39 am

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Memorex wrote:What right do you have to accuse anyone of being less than forthright?


Bwahahaha....because the news originated from Steve Perry (v his promotional 'tools'). Hell, that'd stand up in most courts without a legal path to appeal.


Very unf*cking cool! Calling L&C tools?! :evil:


well, it certainly was not meant in the way that *you* interpreted it. Lay down your rediculous assumptions. In this particular case, promotional people = tools. i.e. items that a person uses to get a job done.



Ya ok, why just quote the word 'tools' then, how should that have been interpreted? :roll: I'm not an idiot, Frank.


Deb, the fact that the word "promotional" preceded the word "tools" made it crystal clear as to which definition of the word was applicable, and it certainly wasn't the derogatory meaning.


If that is truly how he meant it, then....my bad. My question is though, why put quotes around the word "tools" if you didn't mean it to be interpreted that way?


Honestly, while I can't put words into Frank's mouth, I think he meant it as a sign that he was pointing out that it had a different meaning than the normal use of the word "tools." Frank?
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Postby frfksakes » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:51 am

So, just who's the tool? I find it interesting that every time Journey comes out with a new album with a new sounds-like-Perry singer, Herbie comes out of the woodwork with his bitter old fuck routine to slam Perry again.
Hmmm… coincidence?

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Postby SteveForever » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:52 am

frfksakes wrote:So, just who's the tool? I find it interesting that every time Journey comes out with a new album, Herbie comes out of the woodwork with his bitter old fuck routine to slam Perry again.
Hmmm… coincidence?

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Exactly! he works for Neal, no doubt.
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Postby Lora » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:59 am

tammy wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:So, if he's writing/recording this music for personal edification. GREAT. Love to hear that the old dog still has a working prostate. But hearing this news through his press agents reeks of bullshit to me...and I'm just fucking sick of the bullshit. I've heard it from the man for 20 fucking years, and I'm just sick of it. 99.99% of rational human beings out there write someone off after a few years of bullshit. Why is it that Perry fans cant do the same?

Until Perry actually contributes music to this dog and pony, his words are no more or less 'words' than the words spewed around here or other sites on the internet. Words are words. either back them up or you just expose yourself as a fraud. Plain and simple.




1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.

2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?

3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P



That last one #3 makes perfect sense. I swear, it's not the "Perry loons" who are obsessed. I only hope Lora & Cyndy still want to post messages here or anywhere! They sure get a lot of disrespect when they do. Sheesh!


No worries. It makes no sense to me why some have such anger around all of this.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:01 am

Lora wrote:
tammy wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:So, if he's writing/recording this music for personal edification. GREAT. Love to hear that the old dog still has a working prostate. But hearing this news through his press agents reeks of bullshit to me...and I'm just fucking sick of the bullshit. I've heard it from the man for 20 fucking years, and I'm just sick of it. 99.99% of rational human beings out there write someone off after a few years of bullshit. Why is it that Perry fans cant do the same?

Until Perry actually contributes music to this dog and pony, his words are no more or less 'words' than the words spewed around here or other sites on the internet. Words are words. either back them up or you just expose yourself as a fraud. Plain and simple.




1) This wasn't a friggin press release. It was Lora and Cyndy's thoughts on HH interview, mentioning that they have heard Perry sing recently. Nothing more, nothing less.

2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?

3) Don't worry about Perry's fans.....we are just fine thanks. You (and SJ :lol: ) are the ones with the issue, if you think he can't sing or isn't doing enough for ya, write him off and move on. :? :P



That last one #3 makes perfect sense. I swear, it's not the "Perry loons" who are obsessed. I only hope Lora & Cyndy still want to post messages here or anywhere! They sure get a lot of disrespect when they do. Sheesh!


No worries. It makes no sense to me why some have such anger around all of this.


cani say you ladies are class acts... so were you part of the original journey force way back in the late 70s early 80s time period???
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:06 am

You anti Perry people are embarrassing yourselves.
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Postby Lora » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:13 am

lights1961 wrote:so were you part of the original journey force way back in the late 70s early 80s time period???


We were card-carrying Journey Force fan club members back in the late 70's but didn't start working for Journey Force until 1983.
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Postby SteveForever » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:19 am

Don't know if anyone can answer this or not but...
I was in the audience once when Steve was cut in the face by something that someone threw on the
stage, it was not the watch incident he's spoken about, it was something else. Do you know how many times
that happened?
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:23 am

Rockindeano wrote:You anti Perry people are embarrassing yourselves.

Gotta agree with Deano here.
In 98 Perry begs the guys not to tarnish the Journey name.

They procede to:
a) record a pretty good Arrival cd.
b) release a vocally fabricated Arrival DVD.
c) record a mostly crap Generations cd and let ROSS SING LEAD ON A JOURNEY SONG!
d) basically force fans to buy the piece of excrement by builiding the price into a concert ticket....
e) ....which we later found out was being lip-synched, when fans thought they were listening to a live show.
f) Shove a knife in Soto's back by firing him w/o notification after inexplicably naming him the official lead singer.
g) fly a new singer in that they found on Youtube.
h) market and package their new cd as the undercard behind rerecorded hits.

Perry may have been a complete jerk within the band, but he never would have let the Journey name fall to the depths of the above incidents. Outside of the Arrival cd. Neal and Cain have plowed the name right into the crapper.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:27 am

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Deb wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Memorex wrote:What right do you have to accuse anyone of being less than forthright?


Bwahahaha....because the news originated from Steve Perry (v his promotional 'tools'). Hell, that'd stand up in most courts without a legal path to appeal.


Very unf*cking cool! Calling L&C tools?! :evil:


well, it certainly was not meant in the way that *you* interpreted it. Lay down your rediculous assumptions. In this particular case, promotional people = tools. i.e. items that a person uses to get a job done.



Ya ok, why just quote the word 'tools' then, how should that have been interpreted? :roll: I'm not an idiot, Frank.


Deb, the fact that the word "promotional" preceded the word "tools" made it crystal clear as to which definition of the word was applicable, and it certainly wasn't the derogatory meaning.


If that is truly how he meant it, then....my bad. My question is though, why put quotes around the word "tools" if you didn't mean it to be interpreted that way?


Honestly, while I can't put words into Frank's mouth, I think he meant it as a sign that he was pointing out that it had a different meaning than the normal use of the word "tools." Frank?


I put quotes around it for just the distinction Dan outlined...Just goes to show, you can say anything here and it'll get a warped interpretation the minute it gets written to the database.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:40 am

Although I don't share Franks hatred for Journey :lol: , I got to give him a pass here. I believe he was trying to say that Lora and Cyndy were "tools" as in a vehicle to advance something. I don't think he meant they are "tools" as in dickheads.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:40 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:You anti Perry people are embarrassing yourselves.

Gotta agree with Deano here.
In 98 Perry begs the guys not to tarnish the Journey name.

They procede to:
a) record a pretty good Arrival cd.
b) release a vocally fabricated Arrival DVD.
c) record a mostly crap Generations cd and let ROSS SING LEAD ON A JOURNEY SONG!
d) basically force fans to buy the piece of excrement by builiding the price into a concert ticket....
e) ....which we later found out was being lip-synched, when fans thought they were listening to a live show.
f) Shove a knife in Soto's back by firing him w/o notification after inexplicably naming him the official lead singer.
g) fly a new singer in that they found on Youtube.
h) market and package their new cd as the undercard behind rerecorded hits.

Perry may have been a complete jerk within the band, but he never would have let the Journey name fall to the depths of the above incidents. Outside of the Arrival cd. Neal and Cain have plowed the name right into the crapper.


So true Redwing. And to think that most of the people here who gripe on about the 'damage' Perry did to the the band a generation ago are strangely tolerant and apologetic when it comes to the wretched errors of the last ten years....
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:42 am

Matthew wrote:And to think that most of the people here who gripe on about the 'damage' Perry did to the the band a generation ago are strangely tolerant and apologetic when it comes to the wretched errors of the last ten years....


That is your absolute best post ever Euro.
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Postby DracIsBack » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:42 am

Geez, some of you guys are nasty.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:48 am

brywool wrote: Somebody always drags Perry out just as Journey is planning to do something new. It may NOT be intentional, but it's sure strange how that always happens.?


I'm amazed that Perry is able to stay so discreet on the subject...given that every 'new' venture from Journey is just another attempt to tour his songs and rip-off his voice. Perry could have been really interfering and destructive by giving mean-spirited interviews in the manner of HH or taking the piss out of the band on radio or whatever else. Instead he's kept his silence...so I really don't think there's much to back-up this conspiracy theory.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:53 am

DracIsBack wrote:Geez, some of you guys are nasty.


Who the fuck made you Pastor here?

Grow some skin or beat it assbreath..
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:56 am

Matthew wrote:Perry could have been really interfering and destructive by giving mean-spirited interviews in the manner of HH or taking the piss out of the band on radio or whatever else.


Actually he can't. No disparaging remarks are allowed by joint agreement.
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Postby Moon Beam » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:23 am

I can see sparkle on both sides of the Perry non existent penny.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:48 am

Let's keep this thread open....but calm it down folks, ok?
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Postby DracIsBack » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:29 am

Rockindeano wrote:
DracIsBack wrote:Geez, some of you guys are nasty.


Who the fuck made you Pastor here? Grow some skin or beat it assbreath..


Ha. Merely making an observation. Some people disagree, but keep it civil. Other's drop F-bombs and shout insults at the drop of a hat.

A shame really. It is possible to disagree without being a jerk.
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Postby Rick » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:38 am

DracIsBack wrote:Ha. Merely making an observation. Some people disagree, but keep it civil. Other's drop F-bombs and shout insults at the drop of a hat.

A shame really. It is possible to disagree without being a jerk.


This isn't playland, it's a discussion forum. Colorful language is allowed. If you can't handle that, the Martha Stuart forum is enlisting members.
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Postby perrylover52 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:02 am

DracIsBack wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
DracIsBack wrote:Geez, some of you guys are nasty.


Who the fuck made you Pastor here? Grow some skin or beat it assbreath..


Ha. Merely making an observation. Some people disagree, but keep it civil. Other's drop F-bombs and shout insults at the drop of a hat.

A shame really. It is possible to disagree without being a jerk.


I agree with you. I usually just skip over such posts. Or I just edit that kind of language out. I don't let it bother me. I've heard worse in nursing homes. Or when someone bangs a hammer on their thumb. Lord knows I can drop bad language at a drop of a hat. I've can get very colorful. But I chose not to. But don't worry, if it gets to bad Andrew will just lock the thread. He's done it before.
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Postby Rick » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:05 am

perrylover52 wrote:I've heard worse in nursing homes.


:lol: :lol:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:11 am

Rick wrote: the Martha Stuart forum is enlisting members.


actually , that place might be more my style!!! 8)
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:15 am

Rick wrote:
perrylover52 wrote:I've heard worse in nursing homes.


:lol: :lol:


I used to go visit a friend in the nursing home, but I had to pass by one old lady that would start cussing me out when she'd see me coming down the hall.

Then she'd make me sit down and play a few hands of poker with her. When I'd get ready to leave, she'd glare at me, let me get way down the hall and then scream, "DON'T GET PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!!! All the nurses would crack up.

Sorry for the ramble, but I just remembered her when I read this. Cool old gal.
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