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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Mon May 12, 2008 4:11 am

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Why, he would need a cabinet! I would be happy to run for Secretary of de fence. I'll make sure all the fences are mended! :D


You crack me up Kim. But it won't happen.
I flew that Perry 08 avatar so long I wore it out.
I'll fly it one last time to retire it before the DNC picks their nominee.
Maybe someone's listening. :lol: :D

(and at least he knows how many states there are!)
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Postby strangegrey » Mon May 12, 2008 5:43 am

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strangegrey wrote:Fucking Barack pisses me off.

The press has been giving that fucking, jr no-experience, dimwit senator ZERO hard time in the camera. He's had a fucking free ride for 2-3 years now, primping him to be the next president.

Why arent' they asking hard questions about Rev. "I hate whitey" Wright?


What would u like to know?
Nearly every Obama television appearance, including the last ABC debate, fixated on that very issue.


Eh, Not in the way that they would have fixated on Hilary, if the roles were reverse. It appears to me that Hilary has had the fucking kitchen sink thrown at her and Obama has had softballs on top of softballs thrown in his general direction...His connection with Wright and his refusal to cut ties with the racist, should have and WOULD have been more than enough to force ANY other candidate out of this race in complete and utter shame. For some strange reason, the press is hell bent on preventing Hilary from getting the nod. So Obama is getting carried to the finish line....


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As for McCain, I'd rather see a democrat that actually has a fucking D after his or her name fucking up this country....than a democrat with an R after his name doing the damage.


Actually, McCain has over an 80% rating from the American Conservative Union..he's prolly more conservative than Nixon. The fringe underbelly has overtaken your party. Barry Goldwater would be labeled a commie in today's climate.


Woah!!

Not my party pal. At all, I'm likely voting democrat in the next election...and not just for president. However, if you want to try to discuss whether or not McCain is a true republican, you're going to lose that fight. He's not. Just because he's labeled a "conservative" by one or two groups, it doesn't make it so. McCain-Feingold ring a bell?

The fact of the matter is that what you are quoting as proof of McCain's legitimacy (the American Conservative Unions "high" rating of McCain) is usually the first thing people on McCain's bandwagon try to tout when the McPain's legitimacy gets called into question. Do you know that prominant democrats get as high as 71% ratings by the same so called 'conservative' union?

McCain fell ass backwards into a republican nomination because the republican party is in complete shambles. So what you are quoting is a desperate attempt by the republican's (if they even dare call themselves that) behind McCain, to try to line up support for a republican presidential candidate that has zero.

McCain has routinely voted with Democrats in tax issues, imigration issues, economic issues, social issues, etc. Go do some reserach before touting the one SINGLE republican organization behind a candidate that is not at all a republican.

Also, I think you're looking at it from a very skewed pov. It's widely held that, over time, poitics have shifted leftward, *not* rightward. It is widely accepted by political theorists that JFK would have been considered a republican by today's standards....so I'm not sure where you're getting the Barry Goldwater = commie thing....unless of course, you're just making it up to try to make a point. :roll:
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Postby Rhiannon » Mon May 12, 2008 5:54 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:(and at least he knows how many states there are!)


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon May 12, 2008 7:10 am

strangegrey wrote:Eh, Not in the way that they would have fixated on Hilary, if the roles were reverse.


And the establishment press has run how many stories on Hillary's secretive Capitol Hill prayer circle called The Fellowship?
Last by my count, the answer was somewhere in the ballpark of zip to nil.

strangegrey wrote:It appears to me that Hilary has had the fucking kitchen sink thrown at her and Obama has had softballs on top of softballs thrown in his general direction


She's been in Washington alot longer than he has.
On top of that, she has not been above using Rove-style campaign tactics - which always makes for surefire headline grabbers.

strangegrey wrote:...His connection with Wright and his refusal to cut ties with the racist, should have and WOULD have been more than enough to force ANY other candidate out of this race in complete and utter shame.


Obama has no more obligation to "cut ties", than do any of the other 8000 congregants of that megachurch - some of whom are white.

Amazing how both Huckabee and McCain are in agreement that attacking someone's faith is out of bounds...if only we could inject some of their DNA into the Republican genetic code.

strangegrey wrote:...For some strange reason, the press is hell bent on preventing Hilary from getting the nod. So Obama is getting carried to the finish line....


The Democratic field has been winnowed down from eight candidates to two.
This was not done on the grounds of experience.
In case you haven't noticed, both Hillary and Obama have been the media's chosen darlings since the race began.

strangegrey wrote:Woah!!

Not my party pal. At all, I'm likely voting democrat in the next election...and not just for president. However, if you want to try to discuss whether or not McCain is a true republican, you're going to lose that fight. He's not. Just because he's labeled a "conservative" by one or two groups, it doesn't make it so. McCain-Feingold ring a bell?


Trying to do something, ANYTHING, to abate the influence of money in our political system is not a liberal or conservative concept.
To crib a line from Dubya, to me, that's "uniquely American."
Sorry.

strangegrey wrote:...The fact of the matter is that what you are quoting as proof of McCain's legitimacy (the American Conservative Unions "high" rating of McCain) is usually the first thing people on McCain's bandwagon try to tout when the McPain's legitimacy gets called into question. Do you know that prominant democrats get as high as 71% ratings by the same so called 'conservative' union?


I wouldn't doubt it.
Many of todays so-called Democrats are thinly veiled Reaganites.
The entire Clinton term was nothing but a carryover of Republican deregulatory policies - many for which we are still reaping the consequences (Glass-Steagall, ring a bell?)

strangegrey wrote:McCain has routinely voted with Democrats in tax issues, imigration issues, economic issues, social issues, etc.


From taxes to abortion to gun control to foreign policy, McCain's conservative credentials are unimpeachable.
Go compare McCain's current voting record to that of one-time liberal-apostate and abortion legalizer (not to mention, future conservative icon) Governor Reagan, and get back to me.

strangegrey wrote:Also, I think you're looking at it from a very skewed pov. It's widely held that, over time, poitics have shifted leftward, *not* rightward. It is widely accepted by political theorists that JFK would have been considered a republican by today's standards....so I'm not sure where you're getting the Barry Goldwater = commie thing....unless of course, you're just making it up to try to make a point. :roll:


LOL

Yea, maybe if u studied Poli Sci 101 under the tutelage of Professor Limbaugh and TA Beck.
What was JFK's central policy lynchpin, The New Frontier, if not the then modern big-government descendant of FDR's New Deal?

You'll never see those types of domestic initiatives originating from Republicans.
Never.
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Postby Saint John » Mon May 12, 2008 7:19 am

McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.
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Postby scarygirl » Mon May 12, 2008 7:23 am

Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.


I read the same thing. :D
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon May 12, 2008 7:23 am

Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.


As if your vote was ever up for grabs.

The decks are already stacked (both the federal courts and supreme) with conservatives anyhow.
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Postby Saint John » Mon May 12, 2008 7:47 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.


As if your vote was ever up for grabs.

The decks are already stacked (both the federal courts and supreme) with conservatives anyhow.


I'm like Jimmy Johnson, TNC, in that I like running up the score. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Mon May 12, 2008 9:50 pm

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.


As if your vote was ever up for grabs.

The decks are already stacked (both the federal courts and supreme) with conservatives anyhow.



Try telling that to the California voters with regard to the Ninth Circuit Court's recent decisions.


Recent? The 9th Circuit has fallen heavily in that direction for a long time now.
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Postby Eric » Mon May 12, 2008 10:49 pm

1) I like older presidents. 72 is about the max I'd want someone to be voted in...but older means more experienced.

2) The people that think this country is so bad should stop letting the media tell them its so bad.
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Postby strangegrey » Mon May 12, 2008 11:37 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Yea, maybe if u studied Poli Sci 101 under the tutelage of Professor Limbaugh and TA Beck.


Lets not go there shit head. I guarantee you, I've clocked more hours in the god foresaken academic world than most people would ever want to by a factor of two.

The rest of your dribble isn't worth responding to...
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Postby RockitRide » Tue May 13, 2008 12:13 am

If the Democrats want to live in a socialist hell-hole they can move to any one of the many countries that get by leaching off capalist countries. Obama is an emply suit a la Deval Patrick of Massachusetts and Hillary is just a freaking crazy person. We need government INACTION not ACTION. If you want to grab your ankles and worship your government, like those star struck college aged Obama groupies, then move to Canada or Europe. We kicked those losers out of here over 200 years ago and I don't want them back. Remember: CANADA HAS NO INDEPENDENCE DAY! So you have a nearby place to go if you want to be "cared for".
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Postby Barb » Tue May 13, 2008 12:19 am

strangegrey wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Yea, maybe if u studied Poli Sci 101 under the tutelage of Professor Limbaugh and TA Beck.


Lets not go there shit head. I guarantee you, I've clocked more hours in the god foresaken academic world than most people would ever want to by a factor of two.

The rest of your dribble isn't worth responding to...


That is a very tired tactic NC uses. Time to come up with something new.
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue May 13, 2008 12:45 am

I have a feeling me and SJ were just the undercard of a fury-filled day on MR. :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue May 13, 2008 1:06 am

NealIsGod wrote:I have a feeling me and SJ were just the undercard of a fury-filled day on MR. :lol:


Looking that way... :lol:

I'm not versed enough in the catchprases and buzzwords of politics so I will just read....
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue May 13, 2008 1:46 am

Barb wrote:That is a very tired tactic NC uses. Time to come up with something new.


Why should I, when time after time the news posted here is ripped verbatim from discredited "sources" like Newsmax, Drudge, and AM hate radio?

I recall just a year ago Strangegrey was bitching about Michael Moore visting with President Ahmadinejad.
One problem - it NEVER happened.
However, the story sure got alot of play on talk radio.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue May 13, 2008 2:30 am

strangegrey wrote:Lets not go there shit head. I guarantee you, I've clocked more hours in the god forsaken academic world than most people would ever want to by a factor of two.


Trolling college campuses for hunky frat boy cock is not a major.

You may very well have an alphabet soup of post-graduate degrees trailing your name (JD, MD, PhD MAs, MBAs), that does little to change the fact that you permanently reside in the shallow section of the intellectual pool.

Everything I said was FACT, and your inability to dispute those facts speaks for itself.

Keep flailing around in your water wings screaming “Commie!”, maybe someone will be nice enough to toss you a phallus shaped life preserver, and save you from your pretend know-it-all self.
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Postby Voyager » Tue May 13, 2008 4:49 am

All of the polls show that the higher-educated and more successful voters are voting overwhelmingly for Obama, and the less-educated and lower income voters are voting for Clinton.

I'm just reporting what the polls are saying, so don't blame me if this pisses you off.

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Postby conversationpc » Tue May 13, 2008 5:11 am

Voyager wrote:All of the polls show that the higher-educated and more successful voters are voting overwhelmingly for Obama, and the less-educated and lower income voters are voting for Clinton.

I'm just reporting what the polls are saying, so don't blame me if this pisses you off.

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It just goes to show that the "educated" don't always put their education to good use. :lol:
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Postby Tito » Tue May 13, 2008 5:13 am

Saint John wrote:This guy has no chance of beating McCain...none.


I disagree and I'm not happy about it. Obama is going to trounce McCain. I'm cooling on my 40 state landslide victory, but he's going to win. McCain sucks is part of the problem. The country is not in good shape and whoever said he was probably counting Mexico and Venezula, you are probably right. We have quasi-merged countries already. Not good. The only thing that could've saved us was a Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter or Ron Paul presidency.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue May 13, 2008 5:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Why should I, when time after time the news posted here is ripped verbatim from discredited "sources" like Newsmax, Drudge, and AM hate radio?


Funny how it's always "hate radio" when one doesn't agree with the content of said radio show. Then again, if you want to use Keith "rip and read" Olbermann and Media "does it really" Matters, I guess I should just chalk it up to a difference of opinion, eh? :roll:
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Postby Lula » Tue May 13, 2008 5:24 am

Tito wrote:
Saint John wrote:This guy has no chance of beating McCain...none.


I disagree and I'm not happy about it. Obama is going to trounce McCain. I'm cooling on my 40 state landslide victory, but he's going to win. McCain sucks is part of the problem. The country is not in good shape and whoever said he was probably counting Mexico and Venezula, you are probably right. We have quasi-merged countries already. Not good. The only thing that could've saved us was a Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter or Ron Paul presidency.


i hope you're right!! i'm in the minority here, pulling for a dem prez. mccain scares the living daylights out of me. he says he will bring a change in washington, but has said he will continue with many of w's policies. we were listening to laura ingrahm (sp?) this morning and she had some interesting thingsto say- especially about his position on our borders. i do not want to see him as our next prez, NO WAY!!!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue May 13, 2008 5:30 am

conversationpc wrote:
Voyager wrote:All of the polls show that the higher-educated and more successful voters are voting overwhelmingly for Obama, and the less-educated and lower income voters are voting for Clinton.

I'm just reporting what the polls are saying, so don't blame me if this pisses you off.

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It just goes to show that the "educated" don't always put their education to good use. :lol:



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Postby Eric » Tue May 13, 2008 5:49 am

Voyager wrote:All of the polls show that the higher-educated and more successful voters are voting overwhelmingly for Obama, and the less-educated and lower income voters are voting for Clinton.

I'm just reporting what the polls are saying, so don't blame me if this pisses you off.

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Show me those demographic breakdowns. And higher-educated doesn't make one more successful...THAT...is for damn sure!
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Postby Saint John » Tue May 13, 2008 5:56 am

Tito wrote: Obama is going to trounce McCain.


When it comes right down to it, and it's finally time to cast a ballot in the general election people are going to be left with 2 choices. First, you have a guy with no experience that speaks like a "brother" in front of black crowds in "sermon" mode, and then speaks like Carlton Banks in front of white crowds. Translation-He's a fucking phony. Add to that that his wife has just recently, for the"first time in her life", become "proud of her country", and factor in Obama's years of guidance by an insane Black Panther-like racist, and you're left with only one person to vote for...even if it is by default. McCain might not be perfect, but God Damn it he spent years in a fucking box rather than denounce this country. I may not agree with all of his policies, but I'm quite fucking confident he'll do what he thinks is best for America, regardless of what any party thinks. Anyone that can say the same about Obama is either a wide-eyed, liberal, college-aged, Dave Matthews Band listening fag or someone that has the brain waves of a fucking step ladder. McCain will win by 25-50 electoral votes. White people will eventually come to their senses and resent the fact that black people are voting for Obama solely because of his skin color and play tit for tat.
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Postby Tito » Tue May 13, 2008 6:02 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.


As if your vote was ever up for grabs.

The decks are already stacked (both the federal courts and supreme) with conservatives anyhow.


What courts do you go to. They are a bunch a shitheads in the courts. Big government, politically correct liberals.
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Postby Tito » Tue May 13, 2008 6:06 am

SJ saids, "McCain might not be perfect, but God Damn it he spent years in a fucking box"

This country would be better off if he was still in that box. Sorry, it's harsh. But, why would you fight for this country, yet promote erasing this country's borders. Screw him.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue May 13, 2008 6:06 am

Post of the day, SJ.
How that guy got this far without revealing any kind of plan for ANYthing is beyond me. I'm still waiting.
Obama is a phony and his wife is almost worse. That proud of her country shit ticked me off.
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Postby styxman » Tue May 13, 2008 6:12 am

Saint John wrote:
Tito wrote: Obama is going to trounce McCain.


When it comes right down to it, and it's finally time to cast a ballot in the general election people are going to be left with 2 choices. First, you have a guy with no experience that speaks like a "brother" in front of black crowds in "sermon" mode, and then speaks like Carlton Banks in front of white crowds. Translation-He's a fucking phony. Add to that that his wife has just recently, for the"first time in her life", become "proud of her country", and factor in Obama's years of guidance by an insane Black Panther-like racist, and you're left with only one person to vote for...even if it is by default. McCain might not be perfect, but God Damn it he spent years in a fucking box rather than denounce this country. I may not agree with all of his policies, but I'm quite fucking confident he'll do what he thinks is best for America, regardless of what any party thinks. Anyone that can say the same about Obama is either a wide-eyed, liberal, college-aged, Dave Matthews Band listening fag or someone that has the brain waves of a fucking step ladder. McCain will win by 25-50 electoral votes. White people will eventually come to their senses and resent the fact that black people are voting for Obama solely because of his skin color and play tit for tat.


It's kinda like North V's South in the 21st Century....the states is just a big fuckin' mess racially, why the fuck can't an American Indian run for the the presidency. They're the red, red wine abused minority not the black brother hood......and they without rebuttle reserve the right to run the country in an manner they see fit. and I'm guessing the majority of Americans would love to see the Wine bill introduced...drink around a camp fire and get pissed every day of the week, fuck the economy.
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue May 13, 2008 6:14 am

Saint John wrote:McCain just said last night that he'd hire Justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts. Sealed my vote for him.

If McCain said he'd "hire" Justices. Then he's stupider than I gave him credit for. :lol:
He often say's he'll "appoint" Supreme Court Justices. Even that's incorrect. All he can do is "nominate" them. And with the probable #'s democrats will have in Congress, President McCain's "hires" won't mean much SJ. :wink:
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