Carlitto H@kk wrote:As for apoligetic songs, well...
Maybe "Never Too Late" is a veiled apology to Perry???![]()
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Nothing of the sort.
It's Castronovo's substance struggles.
Congrats on the Pens' impending sweep.

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Carlitto H@kk wrote:As for apoligetic songs, well...
Maybe "Never Too Late" is a veiled apology to Perry???![]()
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NealIsGod wrote:I can hear the Loons sqwawking from here. Duck for cover!
“Oh, y’know,” Schon says. “There’s no legal issue. We just try not to. I mean, I didn’t say anything inflammatory. I didn’t talk about how he still gets paid like a motherfucker even though he shouldn’t be. It’s stuff like that I’m not allowed to talk about. He sorta just bitches and moans and whines about everything. And he just assumes that every time we bring up his name, that we’re sayin’ bad things.”
NealIsGod wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, when you get Perry to speak to you, that's a major coup. I don't think Perry came off looking very good, myself. Real shitty toward the singers who have joined after him (not gonna say "replaced" because that isn't possible).
I dunno...Perry is under no obligation to support any post-Perry incarnation, why should he acknowledge their existence?
It would be classy to at least be able to say their names. Plus, as Neal says, Perry is still being "paid like a motherfucker" by this incarnation.
Babyblue wrote:NealIsGod wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, when you get Perry to speak to you, that's a major coup. I don't think Perry came off looking very good, myself. Real shitty toward the singers who have joined after him (not gonna say "replaced" because that isn't possible).
I dunno...Perry is under no obligation to support any post-Perry incarnation, why should he acknowledge their existence?
It would be classy to at least be able to say their names. Plus, as Neal says, Perry is still being "paid like a motherfucker" by this incarnation.
And you don't think Mr P should be paid? Look at all the music he gave us i feel he sould be paid.
NealIsGod wrote:Babyblue wrote:NealIsGod wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, when you get Perry to speak to you, that's a major coup. I don't think Perry came off looking very good, myself. Real shitty toward the singers who have joined after him (not gonna say "replaced" because that isn't possible).
I dunno...Perry is under no obligation to support any post-Perry incarnation, why should he acknowledge their existence?
It would be classy to at least be able to say their names. Plus, as Neal says, Perry is still being "paid like a motherfucker" by this incarnation.
And you don't think Mr P should be paid? Look at all the music he gave us i feel he sould be paid.
Of course he should. Just saying Journey's singers work for him, too.
A little testy today arent we, your basement got a leak or something? You or anyone else dosent know how much he actually took home. Have you figured that in with your calculator Mr St. rocket scientist?Saint John wrote:stevew2 wrote: What makes you think Steve A made millions of dollars???
Let's do the math here, junior. He did approximately 400 shows over 8 years. I'll guarantee you that he made at least $ 5,000 per show. You following me so far? If your math skills in any way parallel your grammar skills you're going to need a calculator for the next part. Press the "On" button on your calculator. Next, multiply (that's the key that looks like an "x." Use your Speak N' Spell if you need help.) 5,000 and 400. You get 2,000,000. Since we were talking dollars, that gives you 2 million dollars, steviewonder2. Hope that helps!
stevew2 wrote: You or anyone else dosent know how much he actually took home.
LazzMan wrote:Ftloperry wrote:Perry, who’s finally started working on his first album of new material since leaving Journey
Wasn't Steve's new material since leaving Journey "For the Love of Strange Medicine"......could the interviewer have his facts wrong or did he post this to just get reactions that he talked to Steve?![]()
Nope, you're wrong. FTLOSM was before he re-joined to do TBF. He did have one new single, "I Stand Alone", off of the Vision Quest soundtrack and then Sony released "Greatest Hits + 5" as part of his agreement to get out of his contract with Sony. Otherwise no real new "Steve Perry" material. A couple of collaborations and background vocals but, nothing new.
Now, I'm not counting all of the Chicago White Sox stuff from three years ago.![]()
stevew2 wrote:Lets see it gay oneSaint John wrote:stevew2 wrote: You or anyone else dosent know how much he actually took home.
He pays taxes just like the rest of us, dumbass. That's a moot point.
DrFU wrote:Saint John wrote:DracIsBack wrote:What the fuck do you mean "what?" He was rescued from his job as a regional maintenance manager from The Gap and afforded the opportunity to, over 8 years, make a couple of million dollars. He was given an opportunity, worked hard, toured harder, and cashed fat pay checks. What don't you understand?
I honestly am skeptical at how much money Augeri made. You'd be surprised at how little "hired hands" make at times.
He was, by all accounts, a full partner. He made millions...there's no doubt about that. None at all.
If you add gross salaries up for 8 YEARS, many of us have made a million.
Not quite the same thing as netting over a mil a year...
Ftloperry wrote:Perry, who’s finally started working on his first album of new material since leaving Journey
Wasn't Steve's new material since leaving Journey "For the Love of Strange Medicine"......could the interviewer have his facts wrong or did he post this to just get reactions that he talked to Steve?![]()
brywool wrote:stevew2 wrote:That was the most retarded article I have read to to date .Augeri bailed out ??, to much stupid shit to even take the time to repeat,Stick a testical in your mouth Neal it will make more sense. Just another reason not to see Jurnne this year, Great
also mentioned "after Perry left Journey"
Um, they left him, and rightfully so.
Red13JoePa wrote:Carlitto H@kk wrote:As for apoligetic songs, well...
Maybe "Never Too Late" is a veiled apology to Perry???![]()
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Nothing of the sort.
It's Castronovo's substance struggles.
jrnyman28 wrote:My opinion of Neal's "paid like a motherfucker" comment. I thought it read like that was an example of something he gets accused of and that Perry thinks anytime Neal says anything it must be bad.
But for the record, I remember a radio interview before the Vacation's Over show here where Neal was being rather demeaning toward Perry by saying 'If Lou can get up and perform after BRAIN SURGERY than Perry should have been able to tour'. Neal was definitely feeling hurt still by the way the Perry departure went down!
NealIsGod wrote:jrnyman28 wrote:My opinion of Neal's "paid like a motherfucker" comment. I thought it read like that was an example of something he gets accused of and that Perry thinks anytime Neal says anything it must be bad.
But for the record, I remember a radio interview before the Vacation's Over show here where Neal was being rather demeaning toward Perry by saying 'If Lou can get up and perform after BRAIN SURGERY than Perry should have been able to tour'. Neal was definitely feeling hurt still by the way the Perry departure went down!
Was he wrong?
Jeremey wrote:Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery.
Jeremey wrote:NealIsGod wrote:jrnyman28 wrote:My opinion of Neal's "paid like a motherfucker" comment. I thought it read like that was an example of something he gets accused of and that Perry thinks anytime Neal says anything it must be bad.
But for the record, I remember a radio interview before the Vacation's Over show here where Neal was being rather demeaning toward Perry by saying 'If Lou can get up and perform after BRAIN SURGERY than Perry should have been able to tour'. Neal was definitely feeling hurt still by the way the Perry departure went down!
Was he wrong?
Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery. Not the same as hip replacement surgery, of course, but it speaks volumes for performers who go out at the top of their game, so to speak.
Saint John wrote:Jeremey wrote:Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery.
Not a fucking thing. What he did prior to said surgery is something that can never be taken away, and I find his determination to continue what he loves to do inspiring, regardless of what level he now performs at. Lou Gramm doesn't care about perpetuating perceptions, "legacies" and any other silly criteria for judging a singer. He cares about performing and God fucking bless him for that.
conversationpc wrote:Saint John wrote:Jeremey wrote:Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery.
Not a fucking thing. What he did prior to said surgery is something that can never be taken away, and I find his determination to continue what he loves to do inspiring, regardless of what level he now performs at. Lou Gramm doesn't care about perpetuating perceptions, "legacies" and any other silly criteria for judging a singer. He cares about performing and God fucking bless him for that.
Yeah, I haven't noticed any damage at all to Gramm's reputation. Most fans of the band probably still love the dude and other, casual fans, probably don't even know he's out and touring.
NealIsGod wrote:annie89509 wrote:NealIsGod wrote:This is the only thing I can remember reading or hearing Neal say bad about Perry since the TBF debacle.
You must have short memories, NIG
Refresh my memory then. I remember Schon convincing Perry to show up at the WOF by saying he deserved to be there on the radio. I remember Augeri saying he would step aside if Perry ever wanted to come back. Countless ass-kissing compliments and praises have been sent Perry's way by the band over the years, but the Loons only like to dig for a nugget of negativity that they can turn into a mountain to throw back at Schon and Co.
Saint John wrote:Jeremey wrote:Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery.
What he did prior to said surgery is something that can never be taken away, and I find his determination to continue what he loves to do inspiring, regardless of what level he now performs at.
tanga wrote:LazzMan wrote:Ftloperry wrote:Perry, who’s finally started working on his first album of new material since leaving Journey
Nope, you're wrong. FTLOSM was before he re-joined to do TBF. He did have one new single, "I Stand Alone", off of the Vision Quest soundtrack and then Sony released "Greatest Hits + 5" as part of his agreement to get out of his contract with Sony. Otherwise no real new "Steve Perry" material. A couple of collaborations and background vocals but, nothing new.
You mean I stand Alone, off the "QUEST FOR CAMELOT". "Only the Young" is off Vision Quest!!
annie89509 wrote: Yet, throughout all these years, SP has not once criticized any one of them for their past actions
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Jeremey wrote:NealIsGod wrote:jrnyman28 wrote:My opinion of Neal's "paid like a motherfucker" comment. I thought it read like that was an example of something he gets accused of and that Perry thinks anytime Neal says anything it must be bad.
But for the record, I remember a radio interview before the Vacation's Over show here where Neal was being rather demeaning toward Perry by saying 'If Lou can get up and perform after BRAIN SURGERY than Perry should have been able to tour'. Neal was definitely feeling hurt still by the way the Perry departure went down!
Was he wrong?
Look what happened to Lou's rep once he got out there and tried to sing after having brain surgery. Not the same as hip replacement surgery, of course, but it speaks volumes for performers who go out at the top of their game, so to speak.
I see both sides of the argument, but on a related note, Bobby Kimball of Toto recently talked about how he finished one tour spinning around on-stage in an electric wheelchair after breaking his knee jumping off a speaker.
He thinks if any footage of it leaks, it will propel him to to the pantheon of YouTube gods.
Moon Beam wrote:I agree that Gramm got kicked in the gonads by folks that were unforgiving with his sound
when he came back.
I however am not one of them, takes a strong person to dive in the depths of their own
delves knowing that a certain strength no longer holds the stranglehold of what the fans feel for.
Saying this I would pay to see him.....gladly.
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