Cain says Perry will never be in Journey again

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Postby Monstrock » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:31 am

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What the Fuck are sayin'? I'm just tryin' to clear the smoke screen in you eyes , dude. :D :D :D


Nope, you're just trashin Perry cause you can and not sure what your motives are ?
its been done over and over, you think you are bringing something new in to people that
are fans for 20-30 years=you honestly think you are telling us stuff we haven't seen or heard before? :roll:
There is NOTHING you can bring to the table with that crap. So just stop.


Nope, I'm not fuckin' trashing Perry here. All my fuckin' opinions on this thread (w/c i'm entitled to) are base on those fuckin' Perry videos and all i'm sayin' is he's just fuckin' done . I'm not bashin' his great legacy or anythin', he's a Legend and the Greatest Rock Vocalist of all time, IMO . If you still don't fuckin' get it, I would'nt be surprised at all. You would'nt be proud to be called a fuckin' loon for nothing.
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Re: Cain says Perry will never be in Journey again

Postby Enigma869 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:31 am

Angiekay wrote:[ His legacy is already there."


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Finally, Cain says something logical! Too bad the rest of them have to keep chasing that "legacy"!


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Postby Rick » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:37 am

Monstrock wrote:
SteveForever wrote:
Monstrock wrote:
What the Fuck are sayin'? I'm just tryin' to clear the smoke screen in you eyes , dude. :D :D :D


Nope, you're just trashin Perry cause you can and not sure what your motives are ?
its been done over and over, you think you are bringing something new in to people that
are fans for 20-30 years=you honestly think you are telling us stuff we haven't seen or heard before? :roll:
There is NOTHING you can bring to the table with that crap. So just stop.


Nope, I'm not fuckin' trashing Perry here. All my fuckin' opinions on this thread (w/c i'm entitled to) are base on those fuckin' Perry videos and all i'm sayin' is he's just fuckin' done. I'm not bashin' his great legacy or anythin', he's a Legend and the Greatest Rock Vocalist of all time, IMO . If you still don't fuckin' get it, I would'nt be surprised at all. You would'nt be proud to be called a fuckin' loon for nothing.


It might be easier for you if you just assign that word to a function key or something. :lol:
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Postby yulog » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:38 am

Gunbot wrote:Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.



I wouldn't refer to Perry as pre-psychotic, he may have withdrew from his career but that doesn't mean he has withdrawn from friends and family and his behavior has been the same since he left the band. There hasn't been any irradic changes over the years. From his comments, he doesn't show any delusional behavior ,nor is there any evidence of irrational thinking, and typically the prodromal phase of psychosis is found in younger adults (12-30)not 60 yr olds.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:41 am

yulog wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.



I wouldn't refer to Perry as pre-psychotic, he may have withdrew from his career but that doesn't mean he has withdrawn from friends and family and his behavior has been the same since he left the band. There hasn't been any irradic changes over the years. From his comments, he doesn't show any delusional behavior ,nor is there any evidence of irrational thinking, and typically the prodromal phase of psychosis is found in younger adults (12-30)not 60 yr olds.


:lol: :lol:

Although, you may be serious???? :shock: :wink:
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Postby Deb » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:50 am

Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)
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Postby Deb » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:50 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
yulog wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.



I wouldn't refer to Perry as pre-psychotic, he may have withdrew from his career but that doesn't mean he has withdrawn from friends and family and his behavior has been the same since he left the band. There hasn't been any irradic changes over the years. From his comments, he doesn't show any delusional behavior ,nor is there any evidence of irrational thinking, and typically the prodromal phase of psychosis is found in younger adults (12-30)not 60 yr olds.


:lol: :lol:

Although, you may be serious???? :shock: :wink:


He is. Smart cookie, that one! :wink:
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:54 am

Rick wrote:
I just think he tuned it down a 1/2 step is all. Sounded great to me. :D


That's what I thought too. But what do I know??

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It might be easier for you if you just assign that word to a function key or something.


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Postby Since 78 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:57 am

Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


What she said!! And Ill add that if he can still sing like, Ill be first in line to buy tickets :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:02 am

Deb wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
yulog wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.



I wouldn't refer to Perry as pre-psychotic, he may have withdrew from his career but that doesn't mean he has withdrawn from friends and family and his behavior has been the same since he left the band. There hasn't been any irradic changes over the years. From his comments, he doesn't show any delusional behavior ,nor is there any evidence of irrational thinking, and typically the prodromal phase of psychosis is found in younger adults (12-30)not 60 yr olds.


:lol: :lol:

Although, you may be serious???? :shock: :wink:


He is. Smart cookie, that one! :wink:


Well it certainly sounds like it.....thanks for clearing me up on that!!! :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:02 am

Since 78 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


What she said!! And Ill add that if he can still sing like, Ill be first in line to buy tickets :wink:



Here, here!!! :wink:
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Postby perrylover52 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:12 am

Ok, I listened to it right to the end also, if anything his voice may have been tired for all the tour dates. But I don't think or feel like his voice was finished. If you want a polished voice like you would hear on a CD or when Steve was with Journey. Then you are not going to like it. Steve has gotten older and if anything his voice has matured. He may not hear it. He may, like alot of people I've read here, wants to hear what they did when he was with Journey. That's not going to happen. So stop expecting that. I, for one, want to hear Steve's voice for myself and then judge it from that.
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Postby Don » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:23 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Deb wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
yulog wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.



I wouldn't refer to Perry as pre-psychotic, he may have withdrew from his career but that doesn't mean he has withdrawn from friends and family and his behavior has been the same since he left the band. There hasn't been any irradic changes over the years. From his comments, he doesn't show any delusional behavior ,nor is there any evidence of irrational thinking, and typically the prodromal phase of psychosis is found in younger adults (12-30)not 60 yr olds.


:lol: :lol:

Although, you may be serious???? :shock: :wink:


He is. Smart cookie, that one! :wink:


Well it certainly sounds like it.....thanks for clearing me up on that!!! :wink:


Thanks for setting me straight, I'll inform Steve that he can start petting cats again. :D
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Postby donnaplease » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:40 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


What she said!! And Ill add that if he can still sing like, Ill be first in line to buy tickets :wink:



Here, here!!! :wink:


I don't think that was a very good performance, at all. But I don't like that song much, so I'm not heartbroken over it. I mean, if he has to crap out on one, that's a good one to it on.

Now, THIS is from that same show, posted by the same person, and IMO it sounds pretty damned good. Granted, it's not 1983 Frontiers, but for someone who supposedly had no voice left in 1994, I'm awestruck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1JSA&feature=user

As for buying tickets... I hope you girls are saving my place in line!!!! :D
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Postby Saint John » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:29 pm

Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


You can't be fucking serious?!?! He missed tons of notes, was flat, and his voice all but croaked out the first two lines. You're hearing impaired...plain and simple. That song was awful. Perry knew it, too. He gave up trying to sing it and all but talked his way through it. Listen to "any" when he says "Another night in any town" and the first "thunder." He can't sing "wild fire" for shit either. Just listened to it again...the background vocals actually carry the song. If you could strip the music and just have vocals waterboarding would look like Sixx Flags.
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Postby Rick » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:31 pm

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


You can't be fucking serious?!?! He missed tons of notes, was flat, and his voice all but croaked out the first two lines. You're hearing impaired...plain and simple. That song was awful. Perry knew it, too. He gave up trying to sing it and all but talked his way through it. Listen to "any" when he says "Another night in any town" and the first "thunder." He can't sing "wild fire" for shit either. Just listened to it again...the background vocals actually carry the song. If you could strip the music and just have vocals waterboarding would look like Sixx Flags.


Nope, spot on. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Deb » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:47 pm

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


You can't be fucking serious?!?! He missed tons of notes, was flat, and his voice all but croaked out the first two lines. You're hearing impaired...plain and simple. That song was awful. Perry knew it, too. He gave up trying to sing it and all but talked his way through it. Listen to "any" when he says "Another night in any town" and the first "thunder." He can't sing "wild fire" for shit either. Just listened to it again...the background vocals actually carry the song. If you could strip the music and just have vocals waterboarding would look like Sixx Flags.


Sure there was a few croaky spots, but it was also the first few lines of the whole concert. Once he's into the song a little further his voice is more warmed up and on consequtive songs. And ya I'm serious, I'd take those vocals over 90 percent of what else is out there! I get it Dan, Perry's later vocals, EM's and JSS's vocals don't make your panties hum! :lol: :roll: You go and enjoy your hannah montana and milli vanilli vocals and let me enjoy mine and we'll be good. Once again it is sooooo not about the high notes and range for me.......I'm not the one expecting him to sound like he did 20 -30 years ago. :roll:
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Postby Saint John » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:57 pm

Maybe if he's lucky, Miley Cyrus will let Perry open up for her. :lol:
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Postby Deb » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:59 pm

Saint John wrote:Maybe if he's lucky, Miley Cyrus will let Perry open up for her. :lol:


And then you'd pay to see Perry solo, wouldn't ya? :P
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Postby Saint John » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:06 pm

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe if he's lucky, Miley Cyrus will let Perry open up for her. :lol:


And then you'd pay to see Perry solo, wouldn't ya? :P


YES!!! :lol: :shock: :P
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Postby Deb » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:08 pm

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe if he's lucky, Miley Cyrus will let Perry open up for her. :lol:


And then you'd pay to see Perry solo, wouldn't ya? :P


YES!!! :lol: :shock: :P


You're a sick bugger! :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:10 pm

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe if he's lucky, Miley Cyrus will let Perry open up for her. :lol:


And then you'd pay to see Perry solo, wouldn't ya? :P


YES!!! :lol: :shock: :P


You're a sick bugger! :lol:


Hey, I'd rather have Perry open for her than R. Kelly. :lol: :shock: :twisted: :wink:
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Postby bru87tr » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:14 pm

perry not in journey ever again is a good thing.

he cant sing and has a bad atttiude.
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Postby Since 78 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:28 pm

bru87tr wrote:perry not in journey ever again is a good thing.

he cant sing and has a bad atttiude.


Really!!! Dude, so tell us about Steve's personal audition for you. Or about how badly he treated you.
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Postby bionic » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:33 pm

Thins are going well for the band at this moment so why would they need Perry? They are on tour with Heart and Cheap Trick,lets see how thing are when they tour on there own and what has happened to Revelations chart position in the future,then ask them the same question 8)
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Postby finalfight » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:34 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Monstrock wrote:No disrespect to Perry, but this is what really sealed the fuckin' deal, boys and girls. Any other stories are just fuckin' assumptions, allibis and bullshits. In this video he's basically done- finito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1LSm9K5fI


Ok, then I must be the only one on drugs then, cuz I watched that through to the end and it sounded fine to me. Sure it's not the high girly voice of the late 70s, it's got more depth and grit. So ya if you're into the more high range stuff you aren't going to like it, but his vocals definitely aren't "done" there. It's just a different texture.......same delivery and soulfulness though. F*ck, no wonder the guy doesn't sing anymore.......it's not his fans he has to worry about pleasing, its the friggin arm chair critics that want his late 70s vocals back.......that don't like his deeper voice and say he can't sing.

But whatever, it's just my opinion, and I dig a little grit to my vocals............so I liked his ROR to TBF voice better than his crisp and clean and no caffienne late 70s vocals. :)


What she said!! And Ill add that if he can still sing like, Ill be first in line to buy tickets :wink:



Here, here!!! :wink:


Hell, I liked it. First song of a uniformly great show. What a great showman too. 60,598 YouTube hits and it still has a five star rating. Says it all really.
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Postby DracIsBack » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:23 pm

bru87tr wrote:he cant sing and has a bad atttiude.


Here we go again! No disagreements that his vocals weren't what they were.
No, I'm not clamoring for a reunion. No, I'm not bashing Arnell or Augeri or Soto. But ....

"can't do Journey songs in their original key" is not the same thing as "can't sing at all".


Please point us to a recording of YOU singing so we can compare Perry vocals to yours! I have every confidence you'll be handed your ass.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:19 pm

bru87tr wrote:perry not in journey ever again is a good thing.

he cant sing and has a bad atttiude.


They will be saying that you're Friga in disguise now :lol:
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Postby EightyRock » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:57 pm

finalfight wrote:
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Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself! :shock: :lol:
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.


Now do the same with Open Arms.



I have and Arnel isn't close. Good, for sure, but not AS good. He does not have the polish and the breath control of Perry. Anyone suggesting otherwise is braindead.
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Postby Greg » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:45 pm

bru87tr wrote:perry not in journey ever again is a good thing.

he cant sing and has a bad atttiude.


And you know this how?
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