Randy Jackson Weighs in on Arnel

[Barb]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0, ... 86,00.html

Who better than Randy Jackson to judge Arnel Pineda, the controversial choice for new lead singer of the legendary rock band Journey?

Not only is Jackson a judge on American Idol, but for two years he also played bass for Journey.

His verdict on Pineda, who has come from relative obscurity to fill the formidable shoes of former frontman Steve Perry? A big thumbs up – with a footnote.

"The guy can sing, he's great," says Jackson. "But no one ... no one will ever be Steve Perry. He's one of the greatest singers to ever grace the microphone."

Pineda's rise is one of rock's great Cinderella stories. The Journey-loving Filipino – who grew up poor in Manila and was homeless for two years before turning professional singer – was playing cover tunes with a local band when Journey founder Neal Schon ran across extensive live-club footage of Pineda's performances on YouTube.

Because Pineda's YouTube rendition of Journey's "Faithfully" had developed an Internet cult following (given how closely it resembled Perry's own version of the classic), Schon flew in Pineda for a tryout. The singer then joined the band in time for a three-disc album, Revelation, and an international concert tour.

Jackson visited the studio during work on the album. "I heard a few songs," says Jackson. "I think they're doing really well."

As for ex-Journeyman Perry, "He's doing his thing," says Jackson. "Steve's fine. I actually had lunch with him about a month ago. He's working on hot stuff, too."

[jrnyjetster]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

[Michigan Girl]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

It's locked......this fact will never change!!!

[Tito]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

[wednesday's child]

Quality beats the living fuck out of quantity, Tito.

[ForeverInBlue]

So, Ali had a few great yrs, doesn't he still qualify as GREAT?

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

[Tito]

So, Ali had a few great yrs, doesn't he still qualify as GREAT?

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

Never really got into Ali. Before my time. What I know was he was very good fighter obviously. But, what makes him a legend is his talk/promos and probably some political stances.

[Saint John]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

Here it comes!

[Matthew]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...and Jimmy Page five....but that doesn't make them any less extraordinary as guitarists...

From what I've read of your posts Tito it seems you belong to that 'corporate rock' sub-group of fan one often finds in these forums. You prize punctuality, team spirit and a level head above anything else and have no time for any nonsense about 'troubled genius' or mavericks or rock star egomania. As long as a workaday musician shows up when they're meant to and put in some honest- to-goodness hard graft for years on end you're happy. And the fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

[Tito]

The fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Art sucks. They should eliminate it from the public schools. It's a waste of time and money. It's a blowoff class. For the professional artist - get a job.

[Onestepper]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...and Jimmy Page five....but that doesn't make them any less extraordinary as guitarists...

From what I've read of your posts Tito it seems you belong to that 'corporate rock' sub-group of fan one often finds in these forums. You prize punctuality, team spirit and a level head above anything else and have no time for any nonsense about 'troubled genius' or mavericks or rock star egomania. As long as a workaday musician shows up when they're meant to and put in some honest- to-goodness hard graft for years on end you're happy. And the fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Now that is some funny stuff right there.

[Matthew]

The fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Art sucks. They should eliminate it from the public schools. It's a waste of time and money. It's a blowoff class. For the professional artist - get a job.

By art I didn't literally mean paint and brushes Tito...but the philistinism of this reply certainly confirms my theory.

[Tito]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

[venomnation]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

Steve Perry IS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone, until he puts out an album that PROVES OTHERWISE..

[Saint John]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

Add that scumbag Morrison to that list too. But I like Hendrix. Hulk Hogan's entrance rocked.

[Tito]

The fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Art sucks. They should eliminate it from the public schools. It's a waste of time and money. It's a blowoff class. For the professional artist - get a job.

By art I didn't literally mean paint and brushes Tito...but the philistinism of this reply certainly confirms my theory.

Does that mean a one hit wonder or one album wonder are great. Part of one's greatness is their longevity. Anybody could put a few good years (or 5) together, those people are called FLASH IN THE PAN.

[Sarah]

Steve Perry WAS one of the greatest singers to ever grace a microphone.....until he can prove to us otherwise.

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...and Jimmy Page five....but that doesn't make them any less extraordinary as guitarists...

From what I've read of your posts Tito it seems you belong to that 'corporate rock' sub-group of fan one often finds in these forums. You prize punctuality, team spirit and a level head above anything else and have no time for any nonsense about 'troubled genius' or mavericks or rock star egomania. As long as a workaday musician shows up when they're meant to and put in some honest- to-goodness hard graft for years on end you're happy. And the fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Seems about right, Matthew.

[Matthew]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

But they were huge stars while they were alive too. And the fact that they had troubled personalities helped to give their music real depth and edge. Same with Perry. For all the whining that goes on here about the thousands of days off he's taken and his decision to ride in a limousine alone and that time he was nasty to Smitty and everything else he did that marks him out as different from us ordinary, 9 to 5 schlubs....what made him so fucked up also made him one of the most emotive and soulful singers the world has ever seen.

If Perry had been well-adjusted and contented and as well-behaved as a gold star-winning corporate employee...Journey would never have made it big, I reckon.

[finalfight]

The fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Art sucks. They should eliminate it from the public schools. It's a waste of time and money. It's a blowoff class. For the professional artist - get a job.

Hey, Fuck you.

[Tito]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

But they were huge stars while they were alive too.

For only a few years. THe thing that makes them icons is their "final act."

[Matthew]

Does that mean a one hit wonder or one album wonder are great. Part of one's greatness is their longevity. Anybody could put a few good years together, those people are called FLASH IN THE PAN.

Well, even allowing for your claim that Perry only had five good years...those years were a quarter of a century ago..and the music he co-wrote and sang is alive and well...and on tour this summer headlining the nostalgia show with Heart...which you'll presumably be attending.

Say what you like about Perry...but the longevity of his appeal really isn't one of is problems.

[Matthew]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

But they were huge stars while they were alive too.

For only a few years. THe thing that makes them icons is their "final act."

I'm not denying the myth-building importance of the final act. But without extraordinary talent and a barking mad personality no-one would have cared. Plenty of middle-ranking musicians have popped their clogs prematurely and everyone forgets about it two weeks later....

[Saint John]

And you could say that Jimi Hendrix had three good years...

Great career move too. Same thing for Joplin and Cobain.

But they were huge stars while they were alive too. And the fact that they had troubled personalities helped to give their music real depth and edge. Same with Perry. For all the whining that goes on here about the thousands of days off he's taken and his decision to ride in a limousine alone and that time he was nasty to Smitty and everything else he did that marks him out as different from us ordinary, 9 to 5 schlubs....what made him so fucked up also made him one of the most emotive and soulful singers the world has ever seen.

If Perry had been well-adjusted and contented and as well-behaved as a gold star-winning corporate employee...Journey would never have made it big, I reckon.

Way to excuse a guy for being a complete asshole at times. I guess guys like Bon Jovi, Bono (even though I can't stand him), Lou Gramm, Jack Blades, and Paul Stanley are "corporate employees" void of artistic ability because they choose to be great bandmates, take care of themselves, tour and continue to create new music. Go put your face in a fucking wood chipper, dude.

[Tito]

Does that mean a one hit wonder or one album wonder are great. Part of one's greatness is their longevity. Anybody could put a few good years together, those people are called FLASH IN THE PAN.

Well, even allowing for your claim that Perry only had five good years...those years were a quarter of a century ago..and the music he co-wrote and sang is alive and well...and on tour this summer headlining the nostalgia show with Heart...which you'll presumably be attending.

Say what you like about Perry...but the longevity of his appeal really isn't one of is problems.

Agreed. He obviously believes in the "better to burn out that to fade away" philosophy. Perhaps a very good and smart career move. However, since he is always talking (when he talks) about touring,etc. and supposedly he's working on something now that may not be his reason. So one could make the case...well...although one of the greats for a period of time...he was a flash in the pan.

[Enigma869]

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

You, my friend, are a MORON! It is only because of Perry's "5 good and no more than 8 years" that these guys are even making a living, off of songs he wrote and made famous with his voice!


John from Boston

[lights1961]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20208686,00.html

Who better than Randy Jackson to judge Arnel Pineda, the controversial choice for new lead singer of the legendary rock band Journey?

Not only is Jackson a judge on American Idol, but for two years he also played bass for Journey.

His verdict on Pineda, who has come from relative obscurity to fill the formidable shoes of former frontman Steve Perry? A big thumbs up – with a footnote.

"The guy can sing, he's great," says Jackson. "But no one ... no one will ever be Steve Perry. He's one of the greatest singers to ever grace the microphone."

Pineda's rise is one of rock's great Cinderella stories. The Journey-loving Filipino – who grew up poor in Manila and was homeless for two years before turning professional singer – was playing cover tunes with a local band when Journey founder Neal Schon ran across extensive live-club footage of Pineda's performances on YouTube.

Because Pineda's YouTube rendition of Journey's "Faithfully" had developed an Internet cult following (given how closely it resembled Perry's own version of the classic), Schon flew in Pineda for a tryout. The singer then joined the band in time for a three-disc album, Revelation, and an international concert tour.

Jackson visited the studio during work on the album. "I heard a few songs," says Jackson. "I think they're doing really well."

As for ex-Journeyman Perry, "He's doing his thing," says Jackson. "Steve's fine. I actually had lunch with him about a month ago. He's working on hot stuff, too."

PERRY ROCKS iam finally getting it!!

[Arkansas]

The fact that no great art ever comes from those types bothers you not one bit....

Or have I got you wrong here Tito?

Art sucks. They should eliminate it from the public schools. It's a waste of time and money. It's a blowoff class. For the professional artist - get a job.

By art I didn't literally mean paint and brushes Tito...but the philistinism of this reply certainly confirms my theory.

Does that mean a one hit wonder or one album wonder are great. Part of one's greatness is their longevity. Anybody could put a few good years (or 5) together, those people are called FLASH IN THE PAN.

Rupert Holmes? Alan O'Day?
Sans longevity, they're right up there at the top, no?



later~

[Onestepper]

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

You, my friend, are a MORON! It is only because of Perry's "5 good and no more than 8 years" that these guys are even making a living, off of songs he wrote and made famous with his voice!


John from Boston

Has Perry ever had a hit with a song that he wrote by himself?? I wonder. Hmmmm.....

[Tito]

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

You, my friend, are a MORON! It is only because of Perry's "5 good and no more than 8 years" that these guys are even making a living, off of songs he wrote and made famous with his voice!


John from Boston

I'm not denying those weren't 5 or 8 great years. However, let's not forget to give the other guys a ton of credit. Also, a bulk of the music they still play is during the Cain Era.

[Arkansas]

I don't know. He really only had 5 good and no more than 8 years if you think about it.

You, my friend, are a MORON! It is only because of Perry's "5 good and no more than 8 years" that these guys are even making a living, off of songs he wrote and made famous with his voice!


John from Boston

I'm not denying those weren't 5 or 8 great years. However, let's not forget to give the other guys a ton of credit. Also, a bulk of the music they still play is during the Cain Era.

Ding ding ding...we have a winner!
Many of us say that Perry's success with Journey was because of Cain's writing.
(And don't forget that little curly headed guy on guitar.)


later~