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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:14 am

Gotta give Neal a pittance of credit for not demeaning his fans intelligence by offering an outright denial of TapeGate.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:25 am

stevew2 wrote:
nolippin wrote:If there is a gag order in place, didn't Neal just violate it? Gag orders aren't normally on just one camp.
Friga violated the gag order many times


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Postby Citygirl » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:25 am

It seems Neal proves again and again what a dickhead he is.

I know the music should be separate from what the person does outwith it, but this shite really puts me off Journey.

I just see them as a joke these days... you can't go through that many singers and be anything other than a joke. 2 singers - okay I can understand that. 3 is pushing it slightly. 4 is just stupid. And that is not counting the singers before Perry cos they weren't really big then.

These guys have no sense of loyalty to anyone.
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Postby Tomulator » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:26 am

JSS wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Well if Neal's talking, then so can JSS. There can't be a one way gag on this thing. Can we have Testify-part deux, Andrew? On second thought, never mind, you would need to be a doctor to handle all the loons that would be spewing up everywhere. :D

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If there were no gag order, I would love nothing more, especially recently, to open up. I have no resentment or bitterness anymore but if anyone's gonna sugar coat things to make them appear picture perfect, I don't want to be the one shown in the wrong light. I pride myself in being the best person I can to everyone around me, always, even when the grey clouds are cast. But that's a good one, this new 'revelation' about me, great read!


Stick with musicians like Luke...they keep it "real".

NS...he's losin' it, IMO.

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Re: Neal Talks Augeri and Soto in classic rock!!

Postby Shadowsong » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:31 am

wildone wrote:
Onestepper wrote:
cudaclan wrote:
bionic wrote:In the latest issue of Classic Rock Neal is questioned on Augeri and Soto.

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Regarding Jeff Scott Soto
'Jeff did a great job, he came in got us through a US tour and got paid very very well for it' .'But personality wise he was not right'. 'After we asked him to leave it got nasty and he decided to sue us'



Now this is news. A different take on a controversial event. A gag order, for whom?


Pretty interesting if you ask me. Guess the people that claimed he wasn't a good fit for them weren't that far off after all. Didn't realize that he sued.
Well didn't he already have the nod from neil and a contract signed?If so he had every right to sue them to be paid in full for the contract!


You can't fault someone for taking any legal means at his disposal to protect his interest to be fully compensated within the law for breach of contract. Restitution for is perfectly acceptable. There's nothing wrong with wanting what is rightfully yours.

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Postby Tomulator » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:32 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Tomulator wrote:Man...my personal opinion of NS just fell down about "ten notches".

No wonder Perry wants nothing to do with "Journey Mach II"

Neal...also, if you read this. PLEASE, do something about your current guitar tone.

Too PROCESSED!!!! Go back to the "beginning" and plug a darn LP DIRECTLY into a Bassman or a good Marshall and turn it up!

You sound your best doing this.

Now...go work on your personality will ya?

:roll:


I agree about the processing, although I do think he sounds a lot better live. A Bassman, given Journey's output the last 20 years? I don't know about that. Journey needs a little more gain than that I think now. A nice Marshall or even a good vintage voiced Boogie would do him well though.


Yeah...maybe. He could "boost" the front of a Bassman and get away just fine with it. I really just meant "clean up" all the effects and get a tone we can actually hear what he's playing. He rips, everybody knows it...I just want to hear it in it's "raw" "unprocessed" form.

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Postby Rick » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:37 am

Tomulator wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Tomulator wrote:Man...my personal opinion of NS just fell down about "ten notches".

No wonder Perry wants nothing to do with "Journey Mach II"

Neal...also, if you read this. PLEASE, do something about your current guitar tone.

Too PROCESSED!!!! Go back to the "beginning" and plug a darn LP DIRECTLY into a Bassman or a good Marshall and turn it up!

You sound your best doing this.

Now...go work on your personality will ya?

:roll:


I agree about the processing, although I do think he sounds a lot better live. A Bassman, given Journey's output the last 20 years? I don't know about that. Journey needs a little more gain than that I think now. A nice Marshall or even a good vintage voiced Boogie would do him well though.


Yeah...maybe. He could "boost" the front of a Bassman and get away just fine with it. I really just meant "clean up" all the effects and get a tone we can actually hear what he's playing. He rips, everybody knows it...I just want to hear it in it's "raw" "unprocessed" form.

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Someone suggested they do an unplugged show in a couple of big cities in an intimate venue, just for the diehards. That would be something.
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Postby donnaplease » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:52 am

stevew2 wrote:
nolippin wrote:If there is a gag order in place, didn't Neal just violate it? Gag orders aren't normally on just one camp.
Friga violated the gag order many times


These days I simply 'gag' whenever NS opens his mouth. What a sickening piece of shit he is! :roll:

It never ceases to amaze me how utterly STOOPID this jackass thinks the fans are. Sure, we are in awe of his musical talent, but that doesn't blind us to his crackhead antics. Shut up and play the guitar, Neal...
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Postby wildone » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:56 am

Citygirl wrote:It seems Neal proves again and again what a dickhead he is.

I know the music should be separate from what the person does outwith it, but this shite really puts me off Journey.

I just see them as a joke these days... you can't go through that many singers and be anything other than a joke. 2 singers - okay I can understand that. 3 is pushing it slightly. 4 is just stupid. And that is not counting the singers before Perry cos they weren't really big then.

These guys have no sense of loyalty to anyone.
exactly love this post......and if jeff is sueing them it's probably because neal tried to screw him out of his contratc and jeff got smart and wanted to be paid in full!Nothing wrong with that people do it everyday!
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Postby Arkansas » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Gotta give Neal a pittance of credit for not demeaning his fans intelligence by offering an outright denial of TapeGate.


D@mn, I'm agreeing with you again!


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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:03 am

Tomulator wrote:
Yeah...maybe. He could "boost" the front of a Bassman and get away just fine with it. I really just meant "clean up" all the effects and get a tone we can actually hear what he's playing. He rips, everybody knows it...I just want to hear it in it's "raw" "unprocessed" form.

8)


Maybe a nice A/B setup with a Bassman and a hot rodded Marshall? Bassman for all the pretty chorused cleans and maybe songs like Lights and the Marshall for some of the more aggressive 80s/90s/00s stuff?

But I do agree... it's gotten to the point where he does the fast runs and it literally just sounds like a truck engine or something. I can't make out anything he's playing. And I know he's not getting sloppy.

One thing's for sure, his tone is too scooped on all the songs nowadays. Sounds ok sometimes, but not always, and especially not on vintage stuff like Wheel and Just The Same Way which were recorded with a classic 70s crunch more than a saturated gainy sound.
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Postby DracIsBack » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:10 am

Citygirl wrote:It seems Neal proves again and again what a dickhead he is.


Wouldn't know. I don't know him personally to make that assessment.
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Postby DracIsBack » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:19 am

Hey - at least you guys are honest about having your minds in the gutter.

Watch? No. More I have to listen to some (loud) 13 year old boys who hang out next door and female plumbing seems to be a popular topic of conversation, right up there with the Xbox game they're playing.
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Postby styxman » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:22 am

Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:31 am

styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:35 am

styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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Postby Since 78 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:42 am

I have never taken sides in this issue as I was on a self imposed Journey break while Jeff was in the Band. That said, Neal is so out of line with this shit!!! The Band has moved on and having success and Jeff is doing well on his own. For Neal to come out and say this now is beyond ridiculous. If Jeff didn't sue, I would sure be thinking about it now if I was him. I Love Journey, but someone needs to tell Neal to STFU!!
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Postby Onestepper » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:43 am

styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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I didn't see that JSS said the quote was inaccurate about him suing them.
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Postby perrylover52 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:44 am

I'd still like to know where I can go to read this thing. I want to see how far Neal's foot really went into his mouth in this article. From what everyone is saying it went in pretty far.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:54 am

styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:03 am

Onestepper wrote:
styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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I didn't see that JSS said the quote was inaccurate about him suing them.


Neal needs to grow up.
the things that come out of his mouth
are more atuned to that of a spoiled child.

I hope JSS did ask for the rightful compensation he was entitled to under the terms of the contract.

I'd give him a standing ovation!

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Postby Deb » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:07 am

styxman wrote:Gagging order or not, this mainstream magazine has printed an inaccuracy and the quote is you sued them. I wouldn't sit down and take that shit......you'll be classed as a trouble maker, hard to work with by the general readership. I'd counter this with an insertion in the next issue.
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Well come on then. Just like Canada, it's under construction. :lol: :wink:

Gawd NS should just stick to music, everytime he opens his mouth about past bandmates he leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. :roll: I have a feeling there was more of a personality conflict with one band member, not all. And to say things got nasty, heck I'd be bugging the hell out of them too trying to find out what happened. IMO, finding out from a peer first is the nasty part. :roll: Doesn't seem fair that Neal can speak about it and not JSS? Oh well, all is right as it should be now I guess...........Jeff's got a great career to look forward to and Neal's got a new singer he can boss around (unlike Perry and Soto :lol: ).
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Re: Neal Talks Augeri and Soto in classic rock!!

Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:10 am

bionic wrote:In the latest issue of Classic Rock Neal is questioned on Augeri and Soto.

Classic Rock wrote,
Shortly after the 06 Monsters of Rock Journey played Sweden rock, it was here that an eagle eared Scandanavian sound engineer speculated that Steve Augeri might be lip synching.When quizzed on this again Neal said' Y'know, people get in trouble and they do what they gotta do to get throught shows' Augeri had serious problems with his vocals,he had a yeast infection in his throat that was incurable.'He couldn't get the gunk off his throat so he couldn't get anything out of it'
So Journey were atually trying to bolster up Augeri by the use of extra added vocal assistance shall we say?
'No comment you will have to talk to Augeri about it,this is such old news'

Regarding Jeff Scott Soto
'Jeff did a great job, he came in got us through a US tour and got paid very very well for it' .'But personality wise he was not right'. 'After we asked him to leave it got nasty and he decided to sue us'

Makes for intereresting reading Neal goes on to talk about Arnel and how they will write together in the future and how Steve Perry 'Wants nothing to do with us,its been like that for years' regarding any thought of a reunion. 8)


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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:29 am

Tomulator wrote:Now...go work on your personality will ya?

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Why would he start now? :shock:


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Re: Neal Talks Augeri and Soto in classic rock!!

Postby froy » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:44 am

and how Steve Perry 'Wants nothing to do with us,its been like that for years' regarding any thought of a reunion. 8)
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Postby Andrew » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:05 am

JSS Rocks! wrote:"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.


There was no indication of anything but a lovefest in LA October 06.
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Postby stevew2 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:08 am

I agree one of the nicest guys if met, .The only one in the band with any kind of integrity
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:09 am

Andrew wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.


There was no indication of anything but a lovefest in LA October 06.


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Re: Neal Talks Augeri and Soto in classic rock!!

Postby Enigma869 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:21 am

bionic wrote:Augeri had serious problems with his vocals,he had a yeast infection in his throat that was incurable.'He couldn't get the gunk off his throat




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Postby donnaplease » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:07 am

Andrew wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.


There was no indication of anything but a lovefest in LA October 06.


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