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[Lula]

"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.

Hahaha, that explains why the personality conflict!

touche!

[cudaclan]

Good read.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/BLABBE ... emID=80531

[bluejeangirl76]

"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.

Hahaha, that explains why the personality conflict!

Certainly does, doesn't it.

[strangegrey]

Frank, I know you and I have had little swipes at eachother in the past but I gotta tell you, I enjoy and appreciate reading your insights like this. Anytime there's a thread about the "inner" workings of Journey you seem to always have a well-written thought to share. Thanks for taking your time to involve yourself, and enhance (even if just a slight bit) our understanding of this shaaaaady band.

Dude, I'm the last person on this planet to claim any inside knowledge at this point. That ship has sailed regarding me, *several* years ago. I just find it *odd* that there are so many others here that claim to have such insight. I know for sure, just how tight lipped these guys can be around people that aren't bound by 'gag orders' and other forms of 'restraint'....

So really, for anyone to pop in here and go "I know blah blah blah" is almost exposing themselves as a fucking horseshite artist, right then and there!! LOL

but regardless, thanks for the kind words. Not here to square off with anyone, these days. Just feel like pissing in the punch bowl like everyone else does!

[Since 78]

Good read.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/BLABBE ... emID=80531

Yep!! Nice video of Deen singing Faithfully!

[Michigan Girl]

M-M-M.....I have no words!!!
Hey Tito....what's your take on this???

Quit taking the piss.

Just asking...........

[Red13JoePa]

[ this latest interview adds in alot of doubt and questioning of what really happened with JSS. The only thing anyone can state for sure, is that there was a serious falling out between JSS and Journey that is more significant than what any of them has stated. That's all we can say, surmise and theorize....

...and anyone claiming to know more, who isn't either a memober of Journey's mgmt or JSS, is lying to either create bullshit or give people the impression they're one of these silly 'I'm in the know' (but really dont know shit) fans (and there's way too many of those here).

Very much bears repeating.

[strangegrey]

[ this latest interview adds in alot of doubt and questioning of what really happened with JSS. The only thing anyone can state for sure, is that there was a serious falling out between JSS and Journey that is more significant than what any of them has stated. That's all we can say, surmise and theorize....

...and anyone claiming to know more, who isn't either a memober of Journey's mgmt or JSS, is lying to either create bullshit or give people the impression they're one of these silly 'I'm in the know' (but really dont know shit) fans (and there's way too many of those here).

Very much bears repeating.

Yep, especially the typo! WTF is a memober anyway!?!? lol

[Behshad]

[ this latest interview adds in alot of doubt and questioning of what really happened with JSS. The only thing anyone can state for sure, is that there was a serious falling out between JSS and Journey that is more significant than what any of them has stated. That's all we can say, surmise and theorize....

...and anyone claiming to know more, who isn't either a memober of Journey's mgmt or JSS, is lying to either create bullshit or give people the impression they're one of these silly 'I'm in the know' (but really dont know shit) fans (and there's way too many of those here).

Very much bears repeating.

Yep, especially the typo! WTF is a memober anyway!?!? lol

I think when the Pepober and Memober cuddle too long, the result is Bebober,,,,

[Deb]

[ this latest interview adds in alot of doubt and questioning of what really happened with JSS. The only thing anyone can state for sure, is that there was a serious falling out between JSS and Journey that is more significant than what any of them has stated. That's all we can say, surmise and theorize....

...and anyone claiming to know more, who isn't either a memober of Journey's mgmt or JSS, is lying to either create bullshit or give people the impression they're one of these silly 'I'm in the know' (but really dont know shit) fans (and there's way too many of those here).

Very much bears repeating.

Yep, especially the typo! WTF is a memober anyway!?!? lol

I think when the Pepober and Memober cuddle too long, the result is Bebober,,,,

Had to read it twice to get it though.

[Saint John]

The only decision I have ever had a problem with as far as Journey goes was Tapegate. I think they have handled everything else wonderfully. Selling out the first 9 shows, and I'm certain that more will follow, seems to indicate that they hired the right guy. A Double Platinum album is going to be pretty fucking cool as well.

[wildone]

The only decision I have ever had a problem with as far as Journey goes was Tapegate. I think they have handled everything else wonderfully. Selling out the first 9 shows, and I'm certain that more will follow, seems to indicate that they hired the right guy. A Double Platinum album is going to be pretty fucking cool as well.

Where's the top 10 hit at?It's funny how many people on other sites are talking about buying the albumn 10 and 20 at a time....Hell they used to be able to sell more albumns with the fans only buying one at a time...

[Saint John]

Where's the top 10 hit at?

After All These Years is at #14 on the Adult Contemporary chart and climbing.

It's funny how many people on other sites are talking about buying the albumn 10 and 20 at a time....Hell they used to be able to sell more albumns with the fans only buying one at a time...

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

[wildone]

Where's the top 10 hit at?

After All These Years is at #14 on the Adult Contemporary chart and climbing.

It's funny how many people on other sites are talking about buying the albumn 10 and 20 at a time....Hell they used to be able to sell more albumns with the fans only buying one at a time...

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

did you buy 20 at once thinking you needed to stock up because you were going to wear it out?On the contemporay charts...what about the normal charts like they used to be judged on ?

[southtexan]

The only decision I have ever had a problem with as far as Journey goes was Tapegate. I think they have handled everything else wonderfully. Selling out the first 9 shows, and I'm certain that more will follow, seems to indicate that they hired the right guy. A Double Platinum album is going to be pretty fucking cool as well.

Where's the top 10 hit at?It's funny how many people on other sites are talking about buying the albumn 10 and 20 at a time....Hell they used to be able to sell more albumns with the fans only buying one at a time...

might have helped the band.

http://endangeredcds.com/custom.html1.html

[wildone]

The only decision I have ever had a problem with as far as Journey goes was Tapegate. I think they have handled everything else wonderfully. Selling out the first 9 shows, and I'm certain that more will follow, seems to indicate that they hired the right guy. A Double Platinum album is going to be pretty fucking cool as well.

Where's the top 10 hit at?It's funny how many people on other sites are talking about buying the albumn 10 and 20 at a time....Hell they used to be able to sell more albumns with the fans only buying one at a time...

might have helped the band.

http://endangeredcds.com/custom.html1.html

lmao at that point and time they really didn't need help ....

[Luvsaugeri]

"But personality wise he was not right"


that comment strikes me kinda funny....Jeff is widely known to be one of the good guys in the biz....Both with musicians and fans alike.

Hahaha, that explains why the personality conflict!

AMEN!!! Could be said about SA as well!!

Uh oh....Arnel seems like a really nice guy too.....he could be in trouble.

[strangegrey]

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

Dude, I hear what you're saying...but let's be realistic. no one's buying albums like they were in the 80s. Even if everyone who bought revs, bought 2 copies of Escape over the years, that's still a ton more people buying escape....another thing to keep in mind is this whole double counting RIAA thing. In reality, we're talking 1/2 the people spending $12 at Wally's for a single 'package' of revs than is actually being recorded.

So while, I'm not poopooing the success of revs, it doesn't measure a pube hair when compared to something like escape...and at the same time, the current measurement of revs' success is a tad misleading.

Again...I'm not poopooing the current charting success of revs, but comparing it to the success of the 80s and expecting it to match up, IMHO, isn't that realistic.

[Behshad]

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

Dude, I hear what you're saying...but let's be realistic. no one's buying albums like they were in the 80s. Even if everyone who bought revs, bought 2 copies of Escape over the years, that's still a ton more people buying escape....another thing to keep in mind is this whole double counting RIAA thing. In reality, we're talking 1/2 the people spending $12 at Wally's for a single 'package' of revs than is actually being recorded.

So while, I'm not poopooing the success of revs, it doesn't measure a pube hair when compared to something like escape...and at the same time, the current measurement of revs' success is a tad misleading.

Again...I'm not poopooing the current charting success of revs, but comparing it to the success of the 80s and expecting it to match up, IMHO, isn't that realistic.

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

[Deb]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

[Saint John]

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

Dude, I hear what you're saying...but let's be realistic. no one's buying albums like they were in the 80s. Even if everyone who bought revs, bought 2 copies of Escape over the years, that's still a ton more people buying escape....another thing to keep in mind is this whole double counting RIAA thing. In reality, we're talking 1/2 the people spending $12 at Wally's for a single 'package' of revs than is actually being recorded.

So while, I'm not poopooing the success of revs, it doesn't measure a pube hair when compared to something like escape...and at the same time, the current measurement of revs' success is a tad misleading.

Again...I'm not poopooing the current charting success of revs, but comparing it to the success of the 80s and expecting it to match up, IMHO, isn't that realistic.

Agreed on all counts.

[Tomulator]

I had a few copies of Greatest Hits on cassette because I kept wearing them out. Don't think that Escape wasn't bought over and over by the same people wearing out their copies as well. Cassettes were shitty and din't last very long. Quit coming up with shitty excuses for the strong album sales. Excuses are for babies. This weeks numbers should start trickling in in a few hours.

Dude, I hear what you're saying...but let's be realistic. no one's buying albums like they were in the 80s. Even if everyone who bought revs, bought 2 copies of Escape over the years, that's still a ton more people buying escape....another thing to keep in mind is this whole double counting RIAA thing. In reality, we're talking 1/2 the people spending $12 at Wally's for a single 'package' of revs than is actually being recorded.

So while, I'm not poopooing the success of revs, it doesn't measure a pube hair when compared to something like escape...and at the same time, the current measurement of revs' success is a tad misleading.

Again...I'm not poopooing the current charting success of revs, but comparing it to the success of the 80s and expecting it to match up, IMHO, isn't that realistic.

For the record, the title is "Revelation"...how do you get "revs" out of that?

"Rev" would be more accurate.

Thanks and continue your points...

[Saint John]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

I'm not going to apologize because the artists I listen to can move units. It means their talents are liked and appreciated, and is a great part of why all artists do what they do. To sell records. Sorry that the dudes you listen to have small followings, but that's not my problem. As for the stage presence and live performance comments, I do go there for the live show, but I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time at a Journey concert. It's just a mask for the fact that he's a very average professional singer and can't sell albums because he generates basically zero interest in the U.S. Dude, no one is interested in the guy in the U.S...never have been and probably never will be. But you guys think he's better off. Now that's funny as hell. Rock fans can generally recognize talent and they've simply passed on Soto. Acknowledge that and accept it. It's true.

[Rick]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

I'm not going to apologize because the artists I listen to can move units. It means their talents are liked and appreciated, and is a great part of why all artists do what they do. To sell records. Sorry that the dudes you listen to have small followings, but that's not my problem. As for the stage presence and live performance comments, I do go there for the live show, but I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time at a Journey concert. It's just a mask for the fact that he's a very average professional singer and can't sell albums because he generates basically zero interest in the U.S. Dude, no one is interested in the guy in the U.S...never have been and probably never will be. But you guys think he's better off. Now that's funny as hell. Rock fans can generally recognize talent and they've simply passed on Soto. Acknowledge that and accept it. It's true.

You're in an amazingly small minority on this issue.

[Saint John]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

I'm not going to apologize because the artists I listen to can move units. It means their talents are liked and appreciated, and is a great part of why all artists do what they do. To sell records. Sorry that the dudes you listen to have small followings, but that's not my problem. As for the stage presence and live performance comments, I do go there for the live show, but I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time at a Journey concert. It's just a mask for the fact that he's a very average professional singer and can't sell albums because he generates basically zero interest in the U.S. Dude, no one is interested in the guy in the U.S...never have been and probably never will be. But you guys think he's better off. Now that's funny as hell. Rock fans can generally recognize talent and they've simply passed on Soto. Acknowledge that and accept it. It's true.

You're in an amazingly small minority on this issue.

Perhaps around here, but not in the real music world. The 20 person concerts are proof of that, Rick. No interest...none.

[mistiejourney]

I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time

Damn, that's exactly what I need and now I'm all hot and bothered thinking about my JSS concerts last month! You little devil - I'll be back after my cold shower.

Nothin' wrong with a little testosterone on the stage, my man, and this lady is all over it!

Relatively speaking, of course...

[Rick]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

I'm not going to apologize because the artists I listen to can move units. It means their talents are liked and appreciated, and is a great part of why all artists do what they do. To sell records. Sorry that the dudes you listen to have small followings, but that's not my problem. As for the stage presence and live performance comments, I do go there for the live show, but I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time at a Journey concert. It's just a mask for the fact that he's a very average professional singer and can't sell albums because he generates basically zero interest in the U.S. Dude, no one is interested in the guy in the U.S...never have been and probably never will be. But you guys think he's better off. Now that's funny as hell. Rock fans can generally recognize talent and they've simply passed on Soto. Acknowledge that and accept it. It's true.

You're in an amazingly small minority on this issue.

Perhaps around here, but not in the real music world. The 20 person concerts are proof of that, Rick. No interest...none.

He's way more talented than you give him credit for. Review after review spelled out what a great singer and frontman he was for Journey. And you know as well as I do how harsh those reviewers can be. I never read a bad one, but I'm sure there were some early on with Journey, as he was just trying to find his 'groove' for the lack of a better word. I just wasn't on here or hadn't gotten into all of this stuff at that point.

[Deb]

While you may not have any intentions of poopooing the chart success, you're still peepeeing in SJ's cherrios, because he only chooses his music based on chart sales and chart sales only. Heck he doesnt even go to the show for the stage presence and or live performance.

I'm not going to apologize because the artists I listen to can move units. It means their talents are liked and appreciated, and is a great part of why all artists do what they do. To sell records. Sorry that the dudes you listen to have small followings, but that's not my problem. As for the stage presence and live performance comments, I do go there for the live show, but I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time at a Journey concert. It's just a mask for the fact that he's a very average professional singer and can't sell albums because he generates basically zero interest in the U.S. Dude, no one is interested in the guy in the U.S...never have been and probably never will be. But you guys think he's better off. Now that's funny as hell. Rock fans can generally recognize talent and they've simply passed on Soto. Acknowledge that and accept it. It's true.

Oh puhlease, are you going to call it "talent" as to why Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan sold units? There are many reasons for fame. You're musical tastes seem to lie in what's popular. But hey, to each his own.

And I thought we were talking about Journey here, how did your post "once again" become about JSS' stage presence?

Linda, please cuff Dan upside the head for me next week, will ya!

[Deb]

I don't need a guy that dresses like he's in an LA street gang rubbing his hair every 5 seconds, showering the stage with sweat tosses and doing the same pre-scripted contrived moves over and over to have a good time

Damn, that's exactly what I need and now I'm all hot and bothered thinking about my JSS concerts last month! You little devil - I'll be back after my cold shower.

Nothin' wrong with a little testosterone on the stage, my man, and this lady is all over it!

Relatively speaking, of course...

Me thinks there is just a wee bit too much testosterone up there for Danny boy.

It's funny, when I was 20 or so the girly sounding/looking singers were all the rage, but now I'd rather my favorite singers look and sound like a man. Grew out of the girly sound.

[Tito]

This is what I'm not getting:

'After we asked him to leave it got nasty and he decided to sue us'

The last I recall, as posted by JSS himself, Jeff was never asked or told to leave, or told anything by the band at all before it happened. Either I missed something, which I know is highly possible, or this is more of Neal's increasingly amusing perception of the world around him.

BINGO!

WRONGO!