Steve Perry vs. Jeff Scott Soto...

[bluejeangirl76]

for the record I laugh anytime I see "Steve Perry vs. nearly anyone"

True story.

[Red13JoePa]

I believe that the day will come, when Schon is old and gray, where Schon will finally understand just how much money he was able to make in his life, all because of a guy named Steve Perry.

Yea, b/c perry was really setting the music world ablaze before hitching his wagon to Journey, right?

[finalfight]

I believe that the day will come, when Schon is old and gray, where Schon will finally understand just how much money he was able to make in his life, all because of a guy named Steve Perry.

Yea, b/c perry was really setting the music world ablaze before hitching his wagon to Journey, right?

Signing to Journey was definitely a real 'coup' for Perry! Better than his previous coup anyhow!

[Red13JoePa]

Make no mistake I love DEARLY the contributions perry made to this band, even buy and enjoy his solo stuff but if we're going down the above road, the "Neal owes EVERY iota of fame and fortune he has to perry" then let's put it into the context of this thread.

Not only is that bogus, but Jeff had approximately TEN times the success in his career pre-Journey than perry did.

So did Neal.

[finalfight]

Make no mistake I love DEARLY the contributions perry made to this band, even buy and enjoy his solo stuff but if were going down the above road, the "Neal owes EVERY iota of fame and fortune he has to perry" then let's put it into the context of this thread.

Lightning in a bottle.

[Tito]

JSS has been telling everybody since day one that there are few talents out there that could touch Perry. He has alot of respect for what he accomplished. Why can't people just chill and appreciate Soto's talent and not compare. Nobody is gonna out Perry, Perry. He was more than just the voice of Journey, and JSS knows that, as well.

I don't know, it may be closer than people think. Even Soto said recently, "sadly no ones heard my Perry 'impersonations' which I used to blow people away with decades ago in my 20's." I wish I could've heard it. That must have been special.

[RossValoryRocks]

I believe that the day will come, when Schon is old and gray, where Schon will finally understand just how much money he was able to make in his life, all because of a guy named Steve Perry.

Yea, b/c perry was really setting the music world ablaze before hitching his wagon to Journey, right?

gobble gobble

But in reality...you are both right...it took a fusion of talents to make Journey take off...but while Perry had much to do with it...so did Rolie, Valory, Smith, Dunbar, Schon, and Castronovo, Augeri, Soto, Pineda and Cain...EVERY ONE of them contributed to the success of Journey either on the recording front or the touring front...Hell we can throw Jeremey and Fleischman in there too..Oh and let's not forget HH calling up Perry to begin with...So MANY MANY people have contributed to Journey's history...is there really any need to run down any of them to elevate another?

[WykkedSensation]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

[finalfight]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

Where's that clapping emoticon when you need it...?

[yulog]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

Where's that clapping emoticon when you need it...?

[artist4perry]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

Where's that clapping emoticon when you need it...?

I don't understand the comparison crap. Look this is all based on personal taste. I for one think Perry has one of the most distinctive and underated voices of our time.

I have only heard recordings of Jeff Soto so I won't comment, but I know good friends in these blogs that I consider have good taste, that love his work.

It is not a comparison thing. It is a preference. Arguements are based on this.

[finalfight]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

Where's that clapping emoticon when you need it...?

I don't understand the comparison crap. Look this is all based on personal taste. I for one think Perry has one of the most distinctive and underated voices of our time.

I have only heard recordings of Jeff Soto so I won't comment, but I know good friends in these blogs that I consider have good taste, that love his work.

It is not a comparison thing. It is a preference. Arguements are based on this.

Taste doesn't come into it. Their is a reason why you have amateur and professional levels in many professions - its because some people are simply just in a different league and are treated as such. Now JSS is a true professional but Perry is a superstar orbiting his own vocal planet which no-one has yet managed to chart let alone reach.

You might get away with taste in 'art' where coveted awards are won for the repeated flicking on and off of a light switch whilst people with genuine talent are ignored by the same contingent and vice versa but in music the result will pretty much be the same for all but the most tone deaf. Ability will always win out.

[artist4perry]

Oh lordy...
Whoever dreams up this shit??

Jeff Scott Soto is a GOOD singer, and that's it.
Steve Perry is THE greatest singer to EVER grace planet earth.



Absolutely no fucking contest.

Where's that clapping emoticon when you need it...?

I don't understand the comparison crap. Look this is all based on personal taste. I for one think Perry has one of the most distinctive and underated voices of our time.

I have only heard recordings of Jeff Soto so I won't comment, but I know good friends in these blogs that I consider have good taste, that love his work.

It is not a comparison thing. It is a preference. Arguements are based on this.

Taste doesn't come into it. Their is a reason why you have amateur and professional levels in many professions - its because some people are simply just in a different league and are treated as such. Now JSS is a true professional but Perry is a superstar orbiting his own vocal planet which no-one has yet managed to chart let alone reach.

You might get away with taste in 'art' where coveted awards are won for the repeated flicking on and off of a light switch whilst people with genuine talent are ignored by the same contingent and vice versa but in music the result will pretty much be the same for all but the most tone deaf. Ability will always win out.

I am not arguing that some are better than others. That is a no brainer. I am just saying these comparisons seldom change oppinions. What might be the purpose? To get into an insult war? That is all I am saying. In my mind Perry is what all of the new lead singers aspire to. And as for those who say he is better on this album than that, well, that I beg to differ as well. No one has heard him sing now, so those who say he has lost it amaze me too. How do you know? Geez he might even have improved, who knows?
I do agree with what you say about some art. I am not into the 'it hasn't been done before, I.E. it must be genius" thought. But some artist try and break molds. That is what you try to acheive. I am an illustrator. I break as many rules as possible.

[kgdjpubs]

Taste doesn't come into it. Their is a reason why you have amateur and professional levels in many professions - its because some people are simply just in a different league and are treated as such. Now JSS is a true professional but Perry is a superstar orbiting his own vocal planet which no-one has yet managed to chart let alone reach.

In that case, I wonder what location Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson are inhabiting. My guess is that Perry himself would tell you he never reached Cooke's level. Sure, Perry had more range, but that isn't what we are talking about, is it??? Cooke took the gospel approach of singing and applied it to pop music. Perry (amoung others, Rod Stewart being the most obvious) took the gospel approach and applied it to rock.

No need to split hairs. They all have their legacy defined, and I'm sure Perry would prefer that Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson be listed before him. We ALL have our influences.

[finalfight]

Taste doesn't come into it. Their is a reason why you have amateur and professional levels in many professions - its because some people are simply just in a different league and are treated as such. Now JSS is a true professional but Perry is a superstar orbiting his own vocal planet which no-one has yet managed to chart let alone reach.

In that case, I wonder what location Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson are inhabiting. My guess is that Perry himself would tell you he never reached Cooke's level. Sure, Perry had more range, but that isn't what we are talking about, is it??? Cooke took the gospel approach of singing and applied it to pop music. Perry (amoung others, Rod Stewart being the most obvious) took the gospel approach and applied it to rock.

No need to split hairs. They all have their legacy defined, and I'm sure Perry would prefer that Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson be listed before him. We ALL have our influences.

Cooke is the Sun and Jackie Wilson the moon!

[kgdjpubs]

Never heard of Jeff before MR, so maybe folks are tosing "legend" around too liberally?
He's certainly quite talented.

-wech

I'm guessing a lot of people haven't heard of John Farnham either, and a LOT of people (especially in Australia) would consider him to be a legend. Doesn't matter than he probably couldn't sell out a bar in North Carolina. I believe he has his place in history cemented down.

Jackie Chan was considered a legend well before anyone in the mainstream US knew who he was. I don't think being known in the America changed his status any--it just made more people aware of who he is.

"Legend" isn't necessarily a measure of popularity. There are a lot of intangibles in the discussion.

[Deb]

Taste doesn't come into it. Their is a reason why you have amateur and professional levels in many professions - its because some people are simply just in a different league and are treated as such. Now JSS is a true professional but Perry is a superstar orbiting his own vocal planet which no-one has yet managed to chart let alone reach.

In that case, I wonder what location Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson are inhabiting. My guess is that Perry himself would tell you he never reached Cooke's level. Sure, Perry had more range, but that isn't what we are talking about, is it??? Cooke took the gospel approach of singing and applied it to pop music. Perry (amoung others, Rod Stewart being the most obvious) took the gospel approach and applied it to rock.

No need to split hairs. They all have their legacy defined, and I'm sure Perry would prefer that Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson be listed before him. We ALL have our influences.

Good post, love that all 3 of my faves are motown influenced and have applied that approach to Rock. I'll take some passionate delivery and some heart felt "whooa whooa's" over glass shattering highs anyday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE

[Rhiannon]

HOW ABOUT...

MORTAL KOMBAT... STREET FIGHTER

JEFF SCOTT "KNUCKLES" SOTO

versus

STEVE "ROID RAGE" PERRY

...Fist fight.

WHO WILL WIN?

[finalfight]

Never heard of Jeff before MR, so maybe folks are tosing "legend" around too liberally?
He's certainly quite talented.

-wech

I'm guessing a lot of people haven't heard of John Farnham either, and a LOT of people (especially in Australia) would consider him to be a legend. Doesn't matter than he probably couldn't sell out a bar in North Carolina. I believe he has his place in history cemented down.

Jackie Chan was considered a legend well before anyone in the mainstream US knew who he was. I don't think being known in the America changed his status any--it just made more people aware of who he is.

"Legend" isn't necessarily a measure of popularity. There are a lot of intangibles in the discussion.

Jackie Chan was at that time a huge box office draw in Asia regardless of international success will forever reside in the upper pantheons of martial arts actors alongside the likes of Bruce Lee, Jet Li and Donnie Yen amongst others. This group is absolutely tiny when compared to say singers so the term legend is appropriate. You definitely don't have to be known worldwide to be legend for sure it really just depends on what criteria are set in your chosen field.

As for Farnham, whilst some may not have heard of him you could be almost certain that they would likely have heard him.

In short I guess I absolutely agree with everything you just said and probably wasted my time with this response - you gotta love Chan though!

[finalfight]

HOW ABOUT...

MORTAL KOMBAT... STREET FIGHTER

JEFF SCOTT "KNUCKLES" SOTO

versus

STEVE "ROID RAGE" PERRY

...Fist fight.

WHO WILL WIN?

Soto by first round KO.

[finalfight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE

Am I going to get 'Rick Rolled' again here?

[kgdjpubs]

In short I guess I absolutely agree with everything you just said and probably wasted my time with this response - you gotta love Chan though!

Ahh, good. Then you might share my frustration about not being able to get uncut, undubbed dvds of his films that will play in the US. Some of the versions that have been released here have undergone major surgical procedures to make them more "palatable" to American audiences, leaving the result far different to what was intended and originally released. This sometimes even changes the entire tone of the movie. Of course, this has happened to many who made films in HK.

[finalfight]

In short I guess I absolutely agree with everything you just said and probably wasted my time with this response - you gotta love Chan though!

Ahh, good. Then you might share my frustration about not being able to get uncut, undubbed dvds of his films that will play in the US. Some of the versions that have been released here have undergone major surgical procedures to make them more "palatable" to American audiences, leaving the result far different to what was intended and originally released. This sometimes even changes the entire tone of the movie. Of course, this has happened to many who made films in HK.

Absolutely. Incidently I am just about to watch Chan's HK cut of The Protector which surprisingly I have never seen. Hopefully it will be better then the low rent US abortion!

[bluejeangirl76]

Jeezum crow.

There is no "vs." and Perry doesn't need anything carried except his fucking groceries.

You know what I want to see? Perry vs. Godzilla. THAT would be cool.

[kgdjpubs]

In short I guess I absolutely agree with everything you just said and probably wasted my time with this response - you gotta love Chan though!

Ahh, good. Then you might share my frustration about not being able to get uncut, undubbed dvds of his films that will play in the US. Some of the versions that have been released here have undergone major surgical procedures to make them more "palatable" to American audiences, leaving the result far different to what was intended and originally released. This sometimes even changes the entire tone of the movie. Of course, this has happened to many who made films in HK.

Absolutely. Incidently I am just about to watch Chan's HK cut of The Protector which surprisingly I have never seen. Hopefully it will be better then the low rent US abortion!

I've heard it was much better. That wouldn't be difficult. Until the US learned to market him as Jackie Chan, and NOT Clint Eastwood or Bruce Lee, I can see why he was never popular here. Where did you find the HK cut?

[kgdjpubs]

There is no "vs." and Perry doesn't need anything carried except his fucking groceries.

You dolt. That's what the cat's for.

[bluejeangirl76]

There is no "vs." and Perry doesn't need anything carried except his fucking groceries.

You dolt. That's what the cat's for.

haven't you been paying attention?
He's a kitten puncher. No cat will go within a mile of him anymore.

[artist4perry]

Jeezum crow.

There is no "vs." and Perry doesn't need anything carried except his fucking groceries.

You know what I want to see? Perry vs. Godzilla. THAT would be cool.

I could draw that!

[finalfight]

In short I guess I absolutely agree with everything you just said and probably wasted my time with this response - you gotta love Chan though!

Ahh, good. Then you might share my frustration about not being able to get uncut, undubbed dvds of his films that will play in the US. Some of the versions that have been released here have undergone major surgical procedures to make them more "palatable" to American audiences, leaving the result far different to what was intended and originally released. This sometimes even changes the entire tone of the movie. Of course, this has happened to many who made films in HK.

Absolutely. Incidently I am just about to watch Chan's HK cut of The Protector which surprisingly I have never seen. Hopefully it will be better then the low rent US abortion!

I've heard it was much better. That wouldn't be difficult. Until the US learned to market him as Jackie Chan, and NOT Clint Eastwood or Bruce Lee, I can see why he was never popular here. Where did you find the HK cut?

I'll pm you.

[finalfight]

Jeezum crow.

There is no "vs." and Perry doesn't need anything carried except his fucking groceries.

You know what I want to see? Perry vs. Godzilla. THAT would be cool.

I could draw that!

No you couldn't.