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Postby Saint John » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:13 pm

Rick wrote:Taking the war to Iraq does nothing to curtail a terrorist attack on US soil.

We've been hit domestically a grand total of....zero times since the advent of the war!!! Though we were told there were "many more to come."
Rick wrote:The war in Iraq was never about WMD.

Sure it was. We know they were there because he used them in the past! And if they weren't he shouldn't have played shell games with the weapon's inspectors. So now that's what we're supposed to do, eh? Take the word of a madman. Nice foreign policy.

Rick wrote:As far as you not losing any rights, please read up on the Patriot act. The US government can now eavesdrop on your phone calls and internet activity. They can effect searches and seizures of your property and imprison you without charging you with a crime, or give you access to legal council and can hold you without probable cause, indefinitely. You're denied your first and fourth amendment rights in this instance, both of which are supposedly inalienable.

We live in vastly different times than when the ammendments were written. Terrorists have adapted and exploited our freedoms and some of them had to be re-assessed as to not be vulnerable ever again. If you feel like the government is gonna barge into your house and arrest you while you're surfing porn in one window and posting on MR in another with a beer in your left hand then you need couch help. :lol: Those adaptations are for the bad guys, Rick. You're safe, buddy. :wink: No one is going to "out" you for surfing senior citizen porn sites. :lol: :twisted: :P

Rick wrote:It's Congress' approval rating that's at 9%. The Democrats can't approve anything because the Republicans have them hog tied. It takes 60% to approve anything in congress and the Democrats don't control 60%. The Republicans would rather walk through hell with a gasoline covered overcoat on than approve anything the Democrats submit.

Valid point(s), but they said their would be "immediate change." You're admitting that they lied and/or failed. It has to be one or both. Based on their statements logic mandates it.
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Postby livin2do » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:41 pm

My $.02, not that anyone cares - or asked!

John McCain did a good job tonight of reminding me why I like him. I didn't expect him to bring up the things he has done in the past that have angered his conservative base. Not only did he bring them up, he held them up as a point of pride. That is what I wanted to see - exactly.

I still have some questions regarding policies and I will take my time to research and prioritize which candidate is truer to my family's goals. But, at least now, I am happy to see the person who I've voted for here in Arizona several times is going to take his attitude with him into this election.
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:45 pm

livin2do wrote:My $.02, not that anyone cares - or asked!

John McCain did a good job tonight of reminding me why I like him. I didn't expect him to bring up the things he has done in the past that have angered his conservative base. Not only did he bring them up, he held them up as a point of pride. That is what I wanted to see - exactly.

I still have some questions regarding policies and I will take my time to research and prioritize which candidate is truer to my family's goals. But, at least now, I am happy to see the person who I've voted for here in Arizona several times is going to take his attitude with him into this election.
He will be retarded in 2 / 3 years, just like Reagan was the last 3 years he was in office.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:46 pm

It took balls for McCain to broach some of those subjects with the honesty he did tonight. He's a good man, and he would make a great Commander in Chief. I just don't think he'll be enough of a change to turn this country and economy around, and change our status in the rest of the world.
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:55 pm

7 Wishes wrote:It took balls for McCain to broach some of those subjects with the honesty he did tonight. He's a good man, and he would make a great Commander in Chief. I just don't think he'll be enough of a change to turn this country and economy around, and change our status in the rest of the world.
He has balls, they are just dragging to low for me. It was great what he did for our country. I just dont see thing new for the future,except for the hot vice, and she is retarded also.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:32 pm

stevew2 wrote:He has balls, they are just dragging to low for me.


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Postby Rick » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:02 pm

conversationpc wrote:
stevew2 wrote:He has balls, they are just dragging to low for me.


Balls Out Jeans!


My eyes!!!! :lol:
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:09 pm

Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
stevew2 wrote:He has balls, they are just dragging to low for me.


Balls Out Jeans!


My eyes!!!! :lol:


Your eyes look like balls?
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Postby whirlwind » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:25 pm

stevew2 wrote:
livin2do wrote:My $.02, not that anyone cares - or asked!

John McCain did a good job tonight of reminding me why I like him. I didn't expect him to bring up the things he has done in the past that have angered his conservative base. Not only did he bring them up, he held them up as a point of pride. That is what I wanted to see - exactly.

I still have some questions regarding policies and I will take my time to research and prioritize which candidate is truer to my family's goals. But, at least now, I am happy to see the person who I've voted for here in Arizona several times is going to take his attitude with him into this election.
He will be retarded in 2 / 3 years, just like Reagan was the last 3 years he was in office.




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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:36 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
stevew2 wrote:He has balls, they are just dragging to low for me.


Balls Out Jeans!


My eyes!!!! :lol:


Your eyes look like balls?


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:45 am

Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:Taking the war to Iraq does nothing to curtail a terrorist attack on US soil.

We've been hit domestically a grand total of....zero times since the advent of the war!!! Though we were told there were "many more to come."
Rick wrote:The war in Iraq was never about WMD.

Sure it was. We know they were there because he used them in the past! And if they weren't he shouldn't have played shell games with the weapon's inspectors. So now that's what we're supposed to do, eh? Take the word of a madman. Nice foreign policy.

Rick wrote:As far as you not losing any rights, please read up on the Patriot act. The US government can now eavesdrop on your phone calls and internet activity. They can effect searches and seizures of your property and imprison you without charging you with a crime, or give you access to legal council and can hold you without probable cause, indefinitely. You're denied your first and fourth amendment rights in this instance, both of which are supposedly inalienable.

We live in vastly different times than when the ammendments were written. Terrorists have adapted and exploited our freedoms and some of them had to be re-assessed as to not be vulnerable ever again. If you feel like the government is gonna barge into your house and arrest you while you're surfing porn in one window and posting on MR in another with a beer in your left hand then you need couch help. :lol: Those adaptations are for the bad guys, Rick. You're safe, buddy. :wink: No one is going to "out" you for surfing senior citizen porn sites. :lol: :twisted: :P
Rick wrote:It's Congress' approval rating that's at 9%. The Democrats can't approve anything because the Republicans have them hog tied. It takes 60% to approve anything in congress and the Democrats don't control 60%. The Republicans would rather walk through hell with a gasoline covered overcoat on than approve anything the Democrats submit.

Valid point(s), but they said their would be "immediate change." You're admitting that they lied and/or failed. It has to be one or both. Based on their statements logic mandates it.

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