OT - Remembrance Day

[RossValoryRocks]

You're a wingnut and have no business telling ANYONE that they are beneath the country they serve.

This entire forum is fringe.
Like a malignant colon polyp on the body politic, your party will be duly excised come November.

I suggest you look again...then again you might prefer that one party rule thing, being the communist you seem to be.

[conversationpc]

You're a wingnut and have no business telling ANYONE that they are beneath the country they serve.

This entire forum is fringe.
Like a malignant colon polyp on the body politic, your party will be duly excised come November.

My party? Not a registered Republican...Sorry. In fact, the last time I voted, it was for a Democrat.

[The_Noble_Cause]

OMG, it's Keith Olbermann Jr. over here. I can't tell which one of you is more miserable.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26645619/

Olbermann is unfortunately seven years late and a few elections short.
What a sad comment on this country’s state of affairs, when it takes a “Special Comment” to essentially pronounce don’t capitalize on death.

[Barb]

OMG, it's Keith Olbermann Jr. over here. I can't tell which one of you is more miserable.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26645619/

Olbermann is unfortunately seven years late and a few elections short.
What a sad comment on this country’s state of affairs, when it takes a “Special Comment” to essentially pronounce don’t capitalize on death.

Newsflash: Just because that is the way you and Olbermann see it, doesn't make it reality, Sir.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Newsflash: Just because that is the way you and Olbermann see it, doesn't make it reality, Sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlofjKEkSrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx80bnFrVs

[Barb]

Newsflash: Just because that is the way you and Olbermann see it, doesn't make it reality, Sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlofjKEkSrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx80bnFrVs

You are so ridiculous.

[conversationpc]

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[Barb]

Newsflash: Just because that is the way you and Olbermann see it, doesn't make it reality, Sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlofjKEkSrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx80bnFrVs

Olbermann commenting on the Republican's use of 9/11 footage was another low for someone who claims to be a journalist. When you're an anchor, you don't comment on the news, you report it.

How is that in itself not called politicizing it? Olbermann is nothing but a condescending, sneering whimp of a man who thinks he should own 9/11. It didn't just happen to him. It happened to the entire country and some of us who pay attention realize there are still threats out there and appreciate people who take that seriously.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You are so ridiculous.

Wielding 9-11 as a red hot political poker whenever it is electorally convenient is the outrage.
Then again, I am talking to someone who prioritizes “skinning grizzlies” over actual foreign policy know-how for choice of VP
Stu was the first to chide someone for verging the other 9-11 thread off course by discussing Bush.
Here, in this thread, where the non sequitur involves pillorying Democrats, you’re all enveloped by a blanket of silence.
Apostate political whores…every last one of you.

[The_Noble_Cause]

How is that in itself not called politicizing it? Olbermann is nothing but a condescending, sneering whimp of a man who thinks he should own 9/11. It didn't just happen to him. It happened to the entire country and some of us who pay attention realize there are still threats out there and appreciate people who take that seriously.

Anything used at an inherently partisan political event, becomes inherently political itself.
It is that simple.

[Barb]

You are so ridiculous.

Wielding 9-11 as a red hot political poker whenever it is electorally convenient is the outrage.
Then again, I am talking to someone who prioritizes “skinning grizzlies” over actual foreign policy know-how for choice of VP
Stu was the first to chide someone for verging the other 9-11 thread off course by discussing Bush.
Here, in this thread, where the non sequitur involves pillorying Democrats, you’re all enveloped by a blanket of silence.
Apostate political whores…every last one of you.

You don't even know how funny you are, do you?

[RossValoryRocks]

Apostate political whores…every last one of you.

Do you even know what apostate means?

Your use here indicates you do not.

You can do better.

I've seen it.

Come on...give it the best shot you have in your arsenal.

But PLEASE use words correctly.

Apostate means having fallen away from, or having renounced a doctrine, since I doubt any of us you are refering to have ever been liberals, it just doesn't make sense.

So correct it and try again...your colorful metaphors are the highlight of my day!

[Don]

I've thought about this for awhile and in the end if we keep this "us against them" mentality going it is really going to hurt our children in the long run. There has to be dialog whether you people like it or not. We can't live in a world where we're afraid to travel outside our country for fear something happening. This problem has been around for years. Old Vietnam vets in my SOP unit, talked about hostage training in the late 60's where they were blind folded, put in a cave and forced to listen to verses from the Koran for 24 hours straight. We have been aware of this problem for a long time and couldn't eradicate it. Do you think our "We know best" mentality will work for us now? I don't think so. As much as we want, we can't spread Democracy and our doctrine through out the world. This was already tried ( British Empire ) and look how that turned out. If the Muslims want to live a certain way, let them. Their problem isn't so much us as it is our support of Israel. How many of you actually understand the History of that state and the atrocities committed in the name of Judaism to create it? We can't put the tooth paste back in the tube, but we can take off the blinders and look at the whole world, not just the parts that align with our faith. We are supposed to be a secular nation, we need to act like one.

[StoneCold]

Today brings bad memories for a lot of people so we can't deny them the right to vent and express in their own way. G.I. Jim's views are as valid as anyone.

G.I. Jim, Carlitto Hokk and anyone else here in the Armed Services, thank you for your sacrifice.

[conversationpc]

{edit}...Out of respect for the intent of this thread, I'm moving my comments to the political thread created by Andrew.

[Just Mindy]

Nice. I have memories of my husband telling me about body parts he found, about finding his friend's dead body sans the head, memorial services for friends who the only thing left of them was a finger, and this thread turns into the regular political bullshit that every fuckin' thread around here turns into. For fucks sake, people, can't you let it go, leave it out of ONE thread?

[MCC620]

Nice. I have memories of my husband telling me about body parts he found, about finding his friend's dead body sans the head, memorial services for friends who the only thing left of them was a finger, and this thread turns into the regular political bullshit that every fuckin' thread around here turns into. For fucks sake, people, can't you let it go, leave it out of ONE thread?

it's really disgusting isn't it mindy. they couldn't even leave one thread sacred for one day.

[Don]

I've been in 3 actions: Desert Storm, Haiti, and Somalia (was in the wrong unit when Panama happened). Just because we are there as a resource doesn't mean we always have to be in harms way. Volunteers or not, no need to throw away American lives with out at least attempting all forms of compromise. What if it was your son or daughter in the bodybag? Pride can help you through your grief for a short time but a few years down the road when you realize they are gone forever, you may have to ask yourself if they died for your freedom or for trying to impose our ideology upon others, irregardless of that groups beliefs.

[Rhiannon]

Nice. I have memories of my husband telling me about body parts he found, about finding his friend's dead body sans the head, memorial services for friends who the only thing left of them was a finger, and this thread turns into the regular political bullshit that every fuckin' thread around here turns into. For fucks sake, people, can't you let it go, leave it out of ONE thread?

I agree.

[The_Noble_Cause]

How is that in itself not called politicizing it? Olbermann is nothing but a condescending, sneering whimp of a man who thinks he should own 9/11.

No, he thinks it should remain non-politicized.
Y'know, kinda like this thread initially, before one of yours used it for cheap political point scoring.

It didn't just happen to him. It happened to the entire country and some of us who pay attention realize there are still threats out there and appreciate people who take that seriously.

Anything used at an inherently partisan political event, becomes inherently political itself.
In playing that montage, the GOP once again milked human tragedy for political gain.

[Barb]

Nice. I have memories of my husband telling me about body parts he found, about finding his friend's dead body sans the head, memorial services for friends who the only thing left of them was a finger, and this thread turns into the regular political bullshit that every fuckin' thread around here turns into. For fucks sake, people, can't you let it go, leave it out of ONE thread?

I agree.

I agree too and am sorry for my part in it.

[conversationpc]

Nice. I have memories of my husband telling me about body parts he found, about finding his friend's dead body sans the head, memorial services for friends who the only thing left of them was a finger, and this thread turns into the regular political bullshit that every fuckin' thread around here turns into. For fucks sake, people, can't you let it go, leave it out of ONE thread?

I agree.

I agree too and am sorry for my part in it.

Me too...All who've taken part in it are wrong. Period. There's another thread for this kind of crap and it can be taken there.

[Tito]

I didn't like Olbermann when he was on Sportscenter. I don't think a lot of co-workers like(d) him either.

[artist4perry]

Keep your smug political idealogic stupidity out of these threads! Let people morn without your childish arguing over whos party is better or more at fault! This is about the loss of our fellow man! Canadian, American, and any other precious human life that was lost! The Canadians lost loved ones too and have the right to morn as well. It was a day to be reverenced and to think of the ones who lost loved ones. Not a thread for selfish bickering! Please have some decency!

[StoneCold]

I've been in 3 actions: Desert Storm, Haiti, and Somalia (was in the wrong unit when Panama happened). Just because we are there as a resource doesn't mean we always have to be in harms way. Volunteers or not, no need to throw away American lives with out at least attempting all forms of compromise. What if it was your son or daughter in the bodybag? Pride can help you through your grief for a short time but a few years down the road when you realize they are gone forever, you may have to ask yourself if they died for your freedom or for trying to impose our ideology upon others, irregardless of that groups beliefs.

I agree with a lot of this and what you wrote above but remember Chamberlain and Hitler. Do you think Bin Laden cared one iota about compromising with anyone? Let alone the US? There will always be lunatics whether foreign or in-house and they have to be dealt with.

For now we can only honor those that fell victim and those that tried to help 7 years ago.

[Don]

I've been in 3 actions: Desert Storm, Haiti, and Somalia (was in the wrong unit when Panama happened). Just because we are there as a resource doesn't mean we always have to be in harms way. Volunteers or not, no need to throw away American lives with out at least attempting all forms of compromise. What if it was your son or daughter in the bodybag? Pride can help you through your grief for a short time but a few years down the road when you realize they are gone forever, you may have to ask yourself if they died for your freedom or for trying to impose our ideology upon others, irregardless of that groups beliefs.

I agree with a lot of this and what you wrote above but remember Chamberlain and Hitler. Do you think Bin Laden cared one iota about compromising with anyone? Let alone the US? There will always be lunatics whether foreign or in-house and they have to be dealt with.

For now we can only honor those that fell victim and those that tried to help 7 years ago.

I think and feel for those people every time I turn on the news, I wear my lapel 3 to 4 times a week if I can. Despite what some may read from my posts, It affects me very deeply.

[artist4perry]

I've been in 3 actions: Desert Storm, Haiti, and Somalia (was in the wrong unit when Panama happened). Just because we are there as a resource doesn't mean we always have to be in harms way. Volunteers or not, no need to throw away American lives with out at least attempting all forms of compromise. What if it was your son or daughter in the bodybag? Pride can help you through your grief for a short time but a few years down the road when you realize they are gone forever, you may have to ask yourself if they died for your freedom or for trying to impose our ideology upon others, irregardless of that groups beliefs.

I agree with a lot of this and what you wrote above but remember Chamberlain and Hitler. Do you think Bin Laden cared one iota about compromising with anyone? Let alone the US? There will always be lunatics whether foreign or in-house and they have to be dealt with.

For now we can only honor those that fell victim and those that tried to help 7 years ago.

I think and feel for those people every time I turn on the news, I wear my lapel 3 to 4 times a week if I can. Despite what some may read from my posts, It affects me very deeply.

One can hardly have a heart and not be affected. Thank you Gunbot for sharing that.

[nikki]

My sister works for the NY Port Authority and survived both the '93 bombing and 9/11. She was able to get out of one of the buildings 8 minutes before it collapsed. I thank God every day she is still here with us and pray for the souls who aren't. As for those who took their lives, there's an old Bible verse---"...his judgement cometh, and that right soon".
I will always be grateful to our armed forces who work so hard every day to insure our safety at home. They are in my prayers, too.

[Barb]

I agree with a lot of this and what you wrote above but remember Chamberlain and Hitler. Do you think Bin Laden cared one iota about compromising with anyone? Let alone the US? There will always be lunatics whether foreign or in-house and they have to be dealt with.

For now we can only honor those that fell victim and those that tried to help 7 years ago.

I agree. Have you read the book "Lone Survivor" by Navy Seal, Marcus Luttrell? It's one of the best books I've ever read and couldn't put it down. He was in Afghanistan in 2005 and describes in detail the hatred among the Taliban for the US and their wicked determination to hit us again. There is no way this is over.

[StoneCold]

I agree with a lot of this and what you wrote above but remember Chamberlain and Hitler. Do you think Bin Laden cared one iota about compromising with anyone? Let alone the US? There will always be lunatics whether foreign or in-house and they have to be dealt with.

For now we can only honor those that fell victim and those that tried to help 7 years ago.

I agree. Have you read the book "Lone Survivor" by Navy Seal, Marcus Luttrell? It's one of the best books I've ever read and couldn't put it down. He was in Afghanistan in 2005 and describes in detail the hatred among the Taliban for the US and their wicked determination to hit us again. There is no way this is over.

I haven't but will make a point to now. Thanks for the referral. Here's the link for anyone else or check your library.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... 17-0500464