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Postby strangegrey » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:17 am

7 Wishes wrote:Whatever.

But no comments whatsoever in seven days now on the irrefutable proof that Couric edited tapes to make McCain look good. I didn't think so. HYPOCRITES.


You must be the only person in the world that actually thinks that interview was edited with that intent. You're going to fight an uphill battle on that one, 4 wishes.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:17 am

7 Wishes wrote:
strangegrey wrote:Holy crap, that Gibson interview of Obama was sickening. It was stomach turning to watch...

The media really has zero shame....


Right, whatever. When it's NOT some Republican dittohead, suddenly there's a massive conspiracy.

Pipe down, little man.


You really need to see the less edited version shown on Nightline. The early far more edited version is a real hack job.

That's the simple truth of the matter. Not partisan anything it's really how it is.

The don't show the full quote from Palin on the "God" question or anything.

At least take the time to see the whole thing and not the edited swill that was put out on ABC News at 7:00.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:41 am

Here’s what happened. ON CBS Nightly News, Katie Couric started off the segment with question #3 of her interview from their website version of the McCain interview:

Couric QUESTION #3: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What’s your response to that?

They then edited out his major gaffe on “the surge” and inserted his partial answer to question #1 and then spliced in a partial answer to question # 3 to make it appear to be a consistent response.

Q1 Sen. Obama has indicated that by his failure to acknowledge the success of the surge, that he would rather lose a war than lose a campaign.

Q3 Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

There will still be attacks. Al Qaeda’s not defeated. But the progress has been immense. And to not recognize that, and why it happened, and how it happened, I think is really quite a commentary.

Here’s part of his answer from question # 3 that they left on the cutting room floor and which exposes John McCain as not knowing what he’s talking about once again about the war in Iraq.

I don’t know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that’s just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed. They were out there. They were protecting these sheiks. We had the Anbar awakening. We now have a government that’s effective…

It completely changes what he meant and actually said to Couric.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:44 am

7 Wishes wrote:Here’s what happened. ON CBS Nightly News, Katie Couric started off the segment with question #3 of her interview from their website version of the McCain interview:

Couric QUESTION #3: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What’s your response to that?

They then edited out his major gaffe on “the surge” and inserted his partial answer to question #1 and then spliced in a partial answer to question # 3 to make it appear to be a consistent response.

Q1 Sen. Obama has indicated that by his failure to acknowledge the success of the surge, that he would rather lose a war than lose a campaign.

Q3 Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

There will still be attacks. Al Qaeda’s not defeated. But the progress has been immense. And to not recognize that, and why it happened, and how it happened, I think is really quite a commentary.

Here’s part of his answer from question # 3 that they left on the cutting room floor and which exposes John McCain as not knowing what he’s talking about once again about the war in Iraq.

I don’t know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that’s just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed. They were out there. They were protecting these sheiks. We had the Anbar awakening. We now have a government that’s effective…

It completely changes what he meant and actually said to Couric.


If that's true, that's either a piss poor edit job or they did it on purpose. I can't imagine them purposely trying to make McCain look, considering how they fawn over Obama.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:45 am

7 Wishes wrote:Here’s what happened. ON CBS Nightly News, Katie Couric started off the segment with question #3 of her interview from their website version of the McCain interview:

Couric QUESTION #3: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What’s your response to that?

They then edited out his major gaffe on “the surge” and inserted his partial answer to question #1 and then spliced in a partial answer to question # 3 to make it appear to be a consistent response.

Q1 Sen. Obama has indicated that by his failure to acknowledge the success of the surge, that he would rather lose a war than lose a campaign.

Q3 Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

There will still be attacks. Al Qaeda’s not defeated. But the progress has been immense. And to not recognize that, and why it happened, and how it happened, I think is really quite a commentary.

Here’s part of his answer from question # 3 that they left on the cutting room floor and which exposes John McCain as not knowing what he’s talking about once again about the war in Iraq.

I don’t know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that’s just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn’t make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed. They were out there. They were protecting these sheiks. We had the Anbar awakening. We now have a government that’s effective…

It completely changes what he meant and actually said to Couric.


Where did you see the unedited version?

I would like to see for myself.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:50 am

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/22/eveningnews/main4283813.shtml

In examining the clips for the fourth time, I definitely thing Gibson was holding back the punches a little bit.

But Palin made a couple of huge verbal gaffes.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:51 am

7 Wishes wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/22/eveningnews/main4283813.shtml

In examining the clips for the fourth time, I definitely thing Gibson was holding back the punches a little bit.

But Palin made a couple of huge verbal gaffes.


Did you see the whole unedited version of the Palin interview, or the hack and slash edit job?
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:00 am

7 Wishes wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/22/eveningnews/main4283813.shtml

In examining the clips for the fourth time, I definitely thing Gibson was holding back the punches a little bit.

But Palin made a couple of huge verbal gaffes.


What were the gaffes?
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Postby wastingbeerz » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:10 am

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7 Wishes wrote: Gov. Sarah Palin: U.S. soldiers are in Iraq on a "task that is from God."

Wow. She REALLY sounds like W here. She is VERY SCARY.


OOOoooooohhhh. Scccccaaaaarrrrrryyyy.... :lol:



Religion & politics mixing is what's truly scary. Those two things should NEVER be mixed.

You must get nightmares when you read the Constitution and the Declaration then. That must be Stephen King type stuff for you. :lol:



Actually, i should rephrase what I said initially. Religion & politics mixing to the extent they are now is what's truly scary. Religion should have NO influence on politics whatsoever.

Well like it or not. Religion/morality/right & wrong whatever you want to call it will never be removed from electing a leader. How could it?


Very simple. People could use reason, rather than belief. What is actually best for the country, rather than what their beliefs tell them is best for the country. The two can coexist, believe it or not. However, I do see your point, as entirely too many out there have absolutely no ability to separate the two.


There is a difference between believing and having confidence in yourself to make the right decision because of your faith, and believing you are the hand of God, or that God has touched you with his voice. The people who believe the latter are the religious zealots to be afraid of.


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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:59 am

How about this bit of acrimony from Gibson's interview with Palin...He certainly didn't say anything like this to Obama, did he? When Palin answered that she said yes right away to McCain's offer to run as VP, he said...

Charles Gibson wrote:And you didn't say to yourself "Am I experienced enough, am I ready? Doesn't that take some hubris?"


Ummmm...Hubris, Charlie? This is a term that means excessive pride or arrogance. Yeah, Gibson wasn't tougher on Palin at all, was he? :roll:
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:07 am

Here's a good observation by Dick Morris in his report for today...

Democrats can't stomach seeing the feminist movement's impetus for greater female political participation and empowerment "hijacked" by a pro-life woman who espouses traditional values. They must obliterate her, lest her popularity eat away at their party's core.

...

She may become the first woman in national office - yet the Democrats, feminists and liberals can't control her, and that burns them up.

Elections come and go, but Palin is a far more fundamental threat to the Democratic Party. And that's why they fear her so.
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Postby Barb » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:18 am

ABC's Gibson grilled Palin hard, but it may backfire

WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 (UPI) -- There were no surprises, no knockout zingers, but also no bloopers Thursday night in Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's first TV interview since becoming the Republican vice presidential nominee.

Charles Gibson of ABC News was out for blood and inherently applied a double-standard compared with the kid gloves George Stephanopoulos used on Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois on Sunday night.

Gibson was out to embarrass Palin and expose her presumed ignorance from the word go. By contrast, when Obama referred to his "Muslim faith" on Sunday and did not correct himself, Stephanopoulos rushed in at once to help him and emphasize that the senator had really meant to say his Christian faith.

By contrast, Gibson tried to embarrass Palin by referring to her Christian faith in asking people to pray for U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Palin countered by pointing out she was following the precedent set by Abraham Lincoln.

Palin also expressed her support for Georgia and Ukraine joining the U.S.-led NATO alliance. That statement was predictable and consistent with the current policy of the Bush administration. The policy has dangerously raised tensions with Russia, but Palin is hardly alone in the conservative/Republican consensus in expressing her support for it.

Palin's assessment of foreign policy was competent and not embarrassing. Although she initially exhibited ignorance of the Bush Doctrine on pre-emptive strikes that has been a central pillar of U.S. foreign policy after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, she recovered quickly and then made the case clearly. Tactically, she made the mistake of trying to be friendly and informal with Gibson, who assumed a superior, professorial and critical stance toward her. She would have been far better going on the attack to rattle him.

The double-standard Gibson applied to Palin, compared with the uncritical media platforms repeatedly offered to Obama, who has had zero executive experience running anything, was especially striking. ABC and Gibson focused on Palin as if she were running right now for the presidency rather than the vice presidency. He and other media pundits, by contrast, have never asked the Democratic vice presidential nominee, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, if he has ever had to make a decision on anything.

Gibson's aggressive approach appeared to take Palin by surprise: He was clearly attempting to put her on point by presenting her as having extreme religious views. This again, however, appears to be a double-standard, as Palin grew up in the Assemblies of God, one of the largest Christian denominations in America with 16 million members, and is now a member of the Wasilla Bible Church. Even now, Obama has yet to receive any comparable grilling on his 20-year attendance in the congregation of the notoriously racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

The focus on Palin's faith and family, as well as the controversy over Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment in Virginia earlier this week, confirmed the swift demise of civility in the 2008 presidential campaign. This is especially ironic, as both Obama and his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, owed their victories over Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York in the Democratic primary race and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the GOP one to their perceived inclusive tolerance, uplift and vision compared with their main opponents.

In the long sweep of U.S. political history, the worst dirt that has been thrown at either of the presidential candidates pales compared with the claims that Thomas Jefferson had fathered a child by a black slave in the 1800 campaign -- the newspaper editor who published the accusations eventually was found dead floating in a canal -- or the false claims by Republicans in the 1944 campaign that President Franklin D. Roosevelt was senile. FDR by that point was indeed a dying man, though he did not know it, but he was mentally as sharp as ever.

The context of the increasingly desperate -- and ugly -- attacks on Palin and her alleged lack of experience is that the Obama bandwagon, which swept all before it from the Iowa caucuses through the end of June, is now stalling badly and, even more worrying for the Democrats, the malaise may be spreading to the congressional races.

The latest USA Today/Gallup poll has the Democrats only 3 points up on the Republicans on the question of which party people would vote for today in their congressional district.

Indeed, the Obama campaign is now saying it is ready to take the gloves off against McCain. They rolled out a new ad Friday mocking McCain as out of touch and old-fashioned, even though it was McCain who picked a young woman as a running mate while Obama opted for an old white guy who's been sitting in the Senate for 36 years. With more than 50 days still to go until the actual election, it appears dangerously early in the campaign for the Obama camp to go negative, especially as so much of his appeal has been based on rising above the old negatives to begin with. Isn't it early in the campaign to resort to that? Is it a sign of panic?

Whatever her inexperience and other shortcomings, Palin did not fall into that trap in her ABC interview. At no point did she appear fearful or threatening. Gibson's aggressive questioning on her religion and her son's coming military service in Iraq, by contrast, runs the risks for the Democrats of strengthening support for Palin among working-class, married women, especially those with husbands or sons serving in the military.

The pattern of previous presidential election interviews and debates has always been that individuals who come across as intellectually superior, arrogant and condescending forfeit support that goes to their perceived victims. This dynamic played a crucial role in propelling George W. Bush into the White House eight years ago. It remains to be seen if Gibson's perceived arrogance and condescension will give Palin another boost. It certainly didn't help the Democrats that ABC's chief political correspondent, Stephanopoulos, who had rushed to Obama's aid only four days before, was wheeled on to discuss her interview with Gibson as soon as it was concluded.

Liberal Democrats predictably will cite the interview as evidence that Palin is not prepared for the vice presidency. Republicans will equally predictably cite it as evidence that she is. How centrist voters will react to it remains to be seen. One thing is clear: This isn't a transformational election on either side. Whoever wins, the ugly old cultural and political divisions in America remain -- and they are deeper than ever.

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:03 am

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7 Wishes wrote:Whatever.

But no comments whatsoever in seven days now on the irrefutable proof that Couric edited tapes to make McCain look good. I didn't think so. HYPOCRITES.


You must be the only person in the world that actually thinks that interview was edited with that intent. You're going to fight an uphill battle on that one, 4 wishes.


It was two interviews.
Both gaffes involved foreign policy - McCain's supposed strong suit.
Considering Couric kicked off her news program with Rush Limbaugh as a guest commentator, I don't think it is that big of a stretch at all.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:05 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:Where did you see the unedited version?

I would like to see for myself.


http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/CBS_P ... w_7_22_200
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:07 am

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RossValoryRocks wrote:Where did you see the unedited version?

I would like to see for myself.


http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/CBS_P ... w_7_22_200


Thank you.

Did you see the lesser edited version of the Palin interview?
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:12 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:It was two interviews.
Both gaffes involved foreign policy - McCain's supposed strong suit.
Considering Couric kicked off her news program with Rush Limbaugh as a guest commentator, I don't think it is that big of a stretch at all.


Boy, that's really sound critical thinking there...Limbaugh must've hynotized her just like all his other minions, eh? :lol:
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:16 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Considering Couric kicked off her news program with Rush Limbaugh as a guest commentator, I don't think it is that big of a stretch at all.

That's probably one reason for her initially great ratings. Since then she's been hanging down with Overbite ratings wise.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:22 am

7 Wishes wrote:I will enjoy watching her crash and burn in the debates.

Ms. Palin...here's your mouth. Please insert your foot here.

Tens of thousands of brilliant, more qualified women out there, and McCain will rue the day he went with Palin.

Dude, I am soooo looking forward to the VP debates. Read this. :lol: I'm sure you'll look back on this post you made and laugh. :lol:

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Biden living up to his gaffe-prone reputation
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Thursday, September 11, 2008
Senator Joseph Biden Jr., the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, is an experienced, serious and smart man. But he does say some curious things. A day on the campaign trail without some cringe-inducing gaffe is a rare blessing. He has not been too blessed lately.

Just this week, he mused that Senator Barack Obama might have been better off with Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

"Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America," Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, New Hampshire. "Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me."

Earlier in the week, in Columbia, Missouri, Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized.

"Chuck, stand up, let the people see you," Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Graham uses a wheelchair. "Oh, God love ya," Biden said. "What am I talking about?"

But it was the Clinton remarks that touched a potentially sensitive spot for the Obama-Biden ticket. With Sarah Palin's addition to the Republican ticket potentially energizing some women voters, Biden's remarks raised anew a legitimate question of whether Obama would have been better off picking the former first lady as his running mate. One could imagine Senator John McCain's campaign even using Biden's remarks in their own ads to exploit female misgivings about the Democratic ticket.

Obama knew what he was getting when he picked Biden as his running mate: A veteran of six terms in the Senate, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, an Irish Catholic with working-class roots, a guy who had twice been tested in the arena of presidential politics.

And a human verbal wrecking crew. :lol: This is the fellow who nearly derailed his nascent presidential campaign last year by calling Obama bright and clean and articulate and who noted that you needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin' Donuts or 7-11 in Delaware.

The guy who, reading his vice-presidential acceptance speech from a TelePrompter, bungled McCain's name, calling him "George" ("Freudian slip, folks, Freudian slip," he explained).

The guy who, on the day Obama announced him as his running mate, referred to his party's presidential nominee as "Barack America" and noted that his own wife, Jill, a college professor, was "drop-dead gorgeous" but who, problematically, possessed a doctorate.

The guy who has said he is running for president (not vice president) and who confused army brigades with battalions. Who referred to his Republican vice-presidential opponent as the lieutenant governor of Alaska.

Aides to Obama said that Biden's propensity to misspeak could pose problems, particularly in the vice-presidential debate on Oct. 2. They are watching his performance on the trail warily, but so far have not tried to rein him in.

But they have assigned a couple of veteran minders to travel with him - David Wilhelm, the former Democratic National Committee chairman, and David Wade, former spokesman for Senator John Kerry. Wade said that Biden's occasional stumbles prove to voters that he is human and that they help them relate to the candidate.

"It would be a huge mistake to try to strip away the authenticity that's been his greatest strength for 35 years," Wade said. "For anybody who's gone to Joe Biden events and watched how voters connect with him, there's a pretty big gap between the expectations of the elite media who seem to crave scripted, blow-dried drones out of central casting instead of regular folks who want to see some honesty and candor. They appreciate it that he takes the voters seriously and doesn't take himself too seriously."

Wade added: "I've never heard a voter say they wanted someone who was more scripted, more slick and who talks to me in sound bites. If they wanted stuffed shirts, we'd be preparing for an October debate with Mitt Romney."

Those who have known Biden for a long time say they see him as a man with an equally big heart and mouth.

"He has overwhelming support here, he's well liked," said James Baker, mayor of Wilmington, Delaware, Biden's home. "We forgive him every once in a while when he says something dumb - 'Oh, that's just Joe."'

Biden recognizes that his tongue sometimes ventures ahead of his brain and often catches himself with a smile.

In Fort Myers, Florida, last week, he referred to the "Biden administration," before quickly correcting himself to say the "Obama-Biden administration."

"Believe me, that wasn't a Freudian slip," he said, laughing and crossing himself. "Oh lordy day, I tell ya."
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:23 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:Did you see the lesser edited version of the Palin interview?


No, I didn't even watch the version that made it to air.
Only have heard brief soundbytes on news etc.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:25 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Did you see the lesser edited version of the Palin interview?


No, I didn't even watch the version that made it to air.
Only have heard brief soundbytes on news etc.


Please do so, it is revealing how the media (ANY MEDIA left right or center) can use edits to change the meaning of the interview.
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Postby strangegrey » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:17 am

Fact Finder wrote:It's a Repub state, but still...this is something to behold...

Not only does the GOP presidential nominee have the backing of 95% of Republicans, but 41% of Oklahoma Democrats support him, too. Fifty-five percent (55%) of Democrats favor Obama. Unaffiliated voters are nearly evenly divided over the two candidates.

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It is something to behold. And you're going to see those so-called battleground states start to leak in the GOP's direction. The democrat leak is going to kill Obama....
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Postby strangegrey » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:19 am

Barb wrote:WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 (UPI) -.....Gibson was out to embarrass Palin and expose her presumed ignorance from the word go. By contrast, when Obama referred to his "Muslim faith" on Sunday and did not correct himself, Stephanopoulos rushed in at once to help him and emphasize that the senator had really meant to say his Christian faith. .....


Gee lookie here. Even Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't know what his religion is. Glad I agree with the fucker in something.... :roll:
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:21 am

Now Governor Palin hates women. So say's the much esteemed Pink. :roll:

"If I were writing a letter to Sarah Palin," Pink told PopEater during her Sessions taping on Thursday, "it would be a lot of whys and hows. Who are you? Do you know? Why do you hate animals? Please point out Iraq on a map ..."

What scares Pink are women who consider the Alaska governor's selection a feminist victory. "This woman hates women," the singer said. "She is not a feminist. She is not the woman that's going to come behind Hillary Clinton and do anything that Hillary Clinton would've been capable of ... I can't imagine overturning Roe vs. Wade. She's not of this time. The woman terrifies me."
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Postby Barb » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:52 am

Fact Finder wrote:O's team are genius, first Sarah is a pig, and now Mac is old and out of touch..way to go Barry...now piss off the older voters..

Obama mocks McCain as computer illiterate in ad
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
4 minutes ago



NEW YORK - John McCain is mocked as an out-of-touch, out-of-date computer illiterate in a television commercial out Friday from Barack Obama as the Democrat begins his sharpest barrage yet on McCain's long Washington career.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_el_pr/obama


How many older voters don't use or don't have computers?

Idiots!

:lol: :lol:



Uh-Oh....from the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000): http://graphics.boston.com/news/politic ... ult+.shtml

McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes.
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Postby Lula » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:13 am

pretty weak "attack" by the obama campaign in comparison to the smut coming from mccain. i hope barack continues to focus on the issues and leaves the smut flinging to mccain.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:28 am

strangegrey wrote:
Barb wrote:WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 (UPI) -.....Gibson was out to embarrass Palin and expose her presumed ignorance from the word go. By contrast, when Obama referred to his "Muslim faith" on Sunday and did not correct himself, Stephanopoulos rushed in at once to help him and emphasize that the senator had really meant to say his Christian faith. .....


Gee lookie here. Even Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't know what his religion is. Glad I agree with the fucker in something.... :roll:


You stupid, stupid fuck.

It was too intelligent and highbrow a reference for you to understand. CONTEXT, stupid.

It was a JOKE, retard. He was referring to the popularity this fradulent theory has gotten due to the right-wing media's "truthification" blogosphere campaign. Wow, you really are a dimwit.
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Postby separate_wayz » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:39 am

Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:O's team are genius, first Sarah is a pig, and now Mac is old and out of touch..way to go Barry...now piss off the older voters..

Obama mocks McCain as computer illiterate in ad
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
4 minutes ago



NEW YORK - John McCain is mocked as an out-of-touch, out-of-date computer illiterate in a television commercial out Friday from Barack Obama as the Democrat begins his sharpest barrage yet on McCain's long Washington career.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_el_pr/obama


How many older voters don't use or don't have computers?

Idiots!

:lol: :lol:



Uh-Oh....from the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000): http://graphics.boston.com/news/politic ... ult+.shtml

McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes.


Good lord.

Apparently, Barack Obama is trying a novel approach to campaigning: offend as many demographic groups as possible before the general election vote. :shock:

So far, his ambitious strategy has him thoroughly not-winning-over women, women who haven't had abortions, women with children who try to work, the mildly handicapped, former POWs, small-town mayors, people who cling to God and guns, and everyone in Alaska. :shock:

With 53 days left in the election, campaign spokesmen are confident that they can completely turn-off 100.00% of the American people by November 4th. :shock:

Once they achieve this post-modern campaign reductio ad absurdum, Obama plans to celebrate by self-immolation in front of the Prussian Victory Column in Berlin, before a crowd of zero, while playing Richard Wagner and repeating "Ich bin ein Beginner!", a Kennedy-esque reference to his obvious lack of any noteworthy experience and utter stupidity on the post-Labor Day campaign trail.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:46 am

Ah, the MR forums. Where commentaries and opinions become truths, and irrefutable truths become disputable. There's nothing like it.

You know, in the general population, as a whole, the polls are tied, as is the electoral college. So your one-sided posts and opinions are NOT reflective of the nation as a whole. Plus, the Democrats have added twice as many new registered voters this time around.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:48 am

7 Wishes wrote:You know, in the general population, as a whole, the polls are tied, as is the electoral college.

If you take solice in the polls being tied, you should know that you shouldn't. Obama's campaign doesn't and the media doesn't. They know that if he doesn't have at least a 10 pt lead come the week of the election. He loses.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:51 am

7 Wishes wrote:Ah, the MR forums. Where commentaries and opinions become truths, and irrefutable truths become disputable. There's nothing like it.

You know, in the general population, as a whole, the polls are tied, as is the electoral college. So your one-sided posts and opinions are NOT reflective of the nation as a whole. Plus, the Democrats have added twice as many new registered voters this time around.


You REALLY need to quit reading the liberal rags...just go read electoral-vote.com and realclearpolitics.com.

You don't put up irrefutable anything...you put up democratic talking points.

Get real. Most of us conservatives here are far less partisan that you are.
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