The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[donnaplease]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

northern VA will decide it. he blows walnuts away there.

count on it.

thanks for the 13 electoral college votes Virginia.

Now that was Dean! The only thing that's missing is calling me an airhead or something.

[7 Wishes]

Our economy has been UNCOMPETITIVE thanks to deregulation. There are SO MANY WAYS in which this can be measured.

One of the most alarming is the value of the dollar against foreign currency - down more than 60% under Bush.

[Enigma869]

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

Sorry Lula, but we all know Dean can be a bit off with his predictions. He predicted Hillary would win the nomination in a landslide, and that didn't work out to well! I will be VERY surprised if Obama wins this election. I think if Obama were a white man that he would absolutely win in a landslide. I've seen some of the disgusting racism in this country, and I am supremely confident that this country isn't electing a black president!


John from Boston

[scarygirl]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

northern VA will decide it. he blows walnuts away there.

count on it.

thanks for the 13 electoral college votes Virginia.

Now that was Dean! The only thing that's missing is calling me an airhead or something.

[scarygirl]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

northern VA will decide it. he blows walnuts away there.

count on it.

thanks for the 13 electoral college votes Virginia.

Now that was Dean! The only thing that's missing is calling me an airhead or something.

Awe, you miss him!

[7 Wishes]

Palin. Interesting choice of attire when meeting with a conservative Muslim leader.

Ouch. Talk about disrespect.

If Obama's last name was Williams, and he was Caucasian, he would get 400 electoral votes. The ONLY reason Obama might not win is racism, pure and simple. I've seen it right here, on this board.

[donnaplease]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

northern VA will decide it. he blows walnuts away there.

count on it.

thanks for the 13 electoral college votes Virginia.

Now that was Dean! The only thing that's missing is calling me an airhead or something.

Awe, you miss him!

I miss the fun we had, sure. Things change, though, and I don't miss the fighting.

[RedWingFan]

Palin. Interesting choice of attire when meeting with a conservative Muslim leader.

Ouch. Talk about disrespect.

Think she should have slapped on a burka? Appeaser. Did she fly to a Muslim country or did he come here?

If Obama's last name was Williams, and he was Caucasian, he would get 400 electoral votes. The ONLY reason Obama might not win is racism, pure and simple. I've seen it right here, on this board.

You were saying Obama was going to win. Why play both sides of the race card?

[treetopovskaya]

not sure... but if obama loses to mccain people will say it's because he is black... especially the media & people like puff diddy or whatever he's calling himself these days. bah.

what if he wins? will it be because mccain is an old white guy?

surely there are dems who won't vote for obama because he is black... for me it came off very tacky coming out of the mouth of a candidate.

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

If that's the case (not saying it is or isn't) what is the angle? To guilt his party into voting for him? It is the democratic voters that they're talking about that aren't 'comfortable' with a black candidate, isn't it?

[7 Wishes]

If McCain loses (and I don't think he will), it will be because he couldn't beat an African-American man in a nation filled to the brim with intolerance and racism. I like McCain, but he is EXTREMELY fortunate to have even won the nomination, and he's up against the only Democrat he could have beaten in the 2008 general election.

[RedWingFan]

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[donnaplease]

not sure... but if obama loses to mccain people will say it's because he is black... especially the media & people like puff diddy or whatever he's calling himself these days. bah.

what if he wins? will it be because mccain is an old white guy?

surely there are dems who won't vote for obama because he is black... for me it came off very tacky coming out of the mouth of a canidate.

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

If that's the case (not saying it is or isn't) what is the angle? To guilt his party into voting for him? It is the democratic voters that they're talking about that aren't 'comfortable' with a black candidate, isn't it?

What did he say? I must've missed something...

I heard the "He's got a funny name, and oh yeah, he's black" bit that he did. Was there something more recent? What I heard today was that some poll was done and a percentage of democrats said that they couldn't/wouldn't vote for Obama because he's black.

[RedWingFan]

If McCain loses (and I don't think he will), it will be because he couldn't beat an African-American man in a nation filled to the brim with intolerance and racism.

Why don't you just come out and say you hate this country? If I thought that about the people here I'd hate it too. Quit trying to play yourself as down the middle. You're a flaming lib. Just admit it. If Clay Aiken is man enough to come out, you should be too.

[donnaplease]

Have you guys discussed Biden's latest gaffe here yet? The Katie Couric interview??? TOO funny!!!

[Barb]

What exactly is so disrespectful about what she is wearing?

[RedWingFan]

Have you guys discussed Biden's latest gaffe here yet? The Katie Couric interview??? TOO funny!!!

Refresh my memory. I can't keep up with the guy.

[RedWingFan]

What exactly is so disrespectful about what she is wearing?

7Wishes thinks she should be wearing a burka and holding the Koran.

[treetopovskaya]

that was it. just rubbed me wrong. }:C|

not sure... but if obama loses to mccain people will say it's because he is black... especially the media & people like puff diddy or whatever he's calling himself these days. bah.

what if he wins? will it be because mccain is an old white guy?

surely there are dems who won't vote for obama because he is black... for me it came off very tacky coming out of the mouth of a canidate.

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

If that's the case (not saying it is or isn't) what is the angle? To guilt his party into voting for him? It is the democratic voters that they're talking about that aren't 'comfortable' with a black candidate, isn't it?

What did he say? I must've missed something...

I heard the "He's got a funny name, and oh yeah, he's black" bit that he did. Was there something more recent? What I heard today was that some poll was done and a percentage of democrats said that they couldn't/wouldn't vote for Obama because he's black.

[donnaplease]

Have you guys discussed Biden's latest gaffe here yet? The Katie Couric interview??? TOO funny!!!

Refresh my memory. I can't keep up with the guy.

Paraphrasing here...

Katie asked about the ad blasting McCain for not being able to use the computer. He jumped right in and said it was horrible and shouldn't have been done.

Then... he later released a statement saying something about how he hadn't actually seen the ad in question and now that he had an opportunity to see it, there's nothing wrong with it because McCain had done some negative ads too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBl7jrD1 ... re=related

Starts at about 4:13.

[7 Wishes]

No, she should have been RESPECTFUL of the OTHER CULTURES with which she was interacting.

Barb - pan down there a little bit. Her earwarmers were showing. HIGHLY inappropriate for what she was doing. And VERY disrespectful.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The media's already calling us racist anticipating his loss.

Name one news anchor who has said anything close to that effect.

[donnaplease]

Here's Biden's statement:

“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize,” he said, “especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators.”

[donnaplease]

No, she should have been RESPECTFUL of the OTHER CULTURES with which she was interacting.

Barb - pan down there a little bit. Her earwarmers were showing. HIGHLY inappropriate for what she was doing. And VERY disrespectful.

I guess I really am an airhead, cause I don't know what 'earwarmers' are... (do you mean her boobies??? )

I see nothing wrong with her outfit though, Daniel. The color is certainly conservative enough, and it looks like an American woman's business attire. I don't see anything disrespectful there.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Here's Biden's statement:

“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize,” he said, “especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators.”

In the long terms scheme of things, who gives a fuck?
How many gaffes on substantive issues, like, oh, say, foreign policy, has McCain gotten a free pass on by the press?
His ramblings today on the financial meltdown were particularly senile.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Just breaking - McCain campaign advisor was on the take from Freddie Mac up until a month ago.
McCain claimed those ties were cut in 2005 and encouraged the press to do a thorough background check.
Careful what you wish for...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/po ... nted=print

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160561/output/print

[Since 78]

No, she should have been RESPECTFUL of the OTHER CULTURES with which she was interacting.

Barb - pan down there a little bit. Her earwarmers were showing. HIGHLY inappropriate for what she was doing. And VERY disrespectful.

Dude is this what you're talking about?



Is she supposed to be wearing a potato sack?

[donnaplease]

Here's Biden's statement:

“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize,” he said, “especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators.”

In the long terms scheme of things, who gives a fuck?
How many gaffes on substantive issues, like, oh, say, foreign policy, has McCain gotten a free pass on by the press?
His ramblings today on the financial meltdown were particularly senile.

IDK, I'm not counting, on either side. I just thought it was interesting. It was suggested that Biden released that statement because he got his hand slapped by Obama. Dunno if it's true or not.

I didn't see today's ramblings so I can't comment on that. But... since we were talking about (race) discrimination earlier, one could argue that your comment is equally as discriminatory, because you used the descriptive word 'senile' for a man in his 70's. IDK if you did that intentionally or not, and it really doesn't matter. It's just an example of how people (on both sides) will take a word or a comment and jump on it and make it into something it may not be intended to be. FWIW, I hate it when politicians do that shit. The phony outrage is sickening.

[donnaplease]

No, she should have been RESPECTFUL of the OTHER CULTURES with which she was interacting.

Barb - pan down there a little bit. Her earwarmers were showing. HIGHLY inappropriate for what she was doing. And VERY disrespectful.

Dude is this what you're talking about?



Is she supposed to be wearing a potato sack?

He doesn't look offended...

[Rhiannon]

No, she should have been RESPECTFUL of the OTHER CULTURES with which she was interacting.

THIS is horseshit! It's not like she showed up wearing daisy dukes and a ripped up paisley shirt blazing her rifle going, "Hot damn gramps! Let's go shoot us some border jumpers!" ...There's nothing wrong with how she's dressed. Non-issue.

[Enigma869]

FWIW, I hate it when politicians do that shit. The phony outrage is sickening.

Everything about politicians is phony! These fuckers don't know any other way!


John from Boston