The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[Lula]

I just took over Lula's acct for a nano second.

RWF, Conversationpc, and Lie Finder- Run these numbers tonight:

Florida Obama plus 8
Nevada- Obama +4
Ohio- Obama +6
Missouri- Obama +2
and every other swing state is blue, including Virginia, North Carolina and there is a real possibility, and get this...Arizona will be close.

You are all so lucky I am banned from here. Fuck all to Hell, I would be slamming all you cons against the wall.

Stu, you too you big dildo lookin motherfucker

Love ya assface. Make your reservations to Sacramento on November 3rd and we will go fishin and drinking that weekend. Oh, PS, bring your ATM card, in fact, bring both of em!

Trust me Cons. we will live in a better country after January 20th.

[RedWingFan]

I just took over Lula's acct for a nano second.

RWF, Conversationpc, and Lie Finder- Run these numbers tonight:

Florida Obama plus 8
Nevada- Obama +4
Ohio- Obama +6
Missouri- Obama +2
and every other swing state is blue, including Virginia, North Carolina and there is a real possibility, and get this...Arizona will be close.

Rembember Kerry's advisor calling him Mr. President after the first exit polls were released? Then them wondering how the votes were suspect because they didn't match the polls?
I'd also like to refer to your Penguins over Red Wings Stanley Cup Finals prediction.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Another "middle of the road" media moderator.

VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book
Focuses on blacks who are 'forging a bold new path to political power'
Posted: September 30, 2008
8:35 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


Gwen Ifill

The moderator of Thursday's vice-presidential debate is writing a book to come out about the time the next president takes the oath of office that aims to "shed new light" on Democratic candidate Barack Obama and other "emerging young African American politicians" who are "forging a bold new path to political power."

Gwen Ifill of the Public Broadcasting Service program "Washington Week" is promoting "The Breakthrough," in which she argues the "black political structure" of the civil rights movement is giving way to men and women who have benefited from the struggles over racial equality.

Ifill declined to return a WND telephone message asking for a comment about her book project and whether its success would be expected should Obama lose. But she has faced criticism previously for not treating candidates of both major parties the same.

Gee, what a surprise.

Sounds more like a book on black politicians than anything else.
I can see the conflict of interest, but at the same time, I can't understand how anyone who has watched Ifill would walk away saying she is anything less than a consumate and objective pro.

She has responded:

"I've got a pretty long track record covering politics and news, so I'm not particularly worried that one-day blog chatter is going to destroy my reputation. The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I've done my job."

[Jana]

RedWingFan, don't remind me about that night. I went to bed happy, mission accomplished. Bush was out. I wanted him out enough to vote for Kerry. I woke up that next morning to the "horrific news" that sent me into a depression for two weeks, that Bush was re-elected and was going to be the President for the next four years.

[S2M]

The american public are so peripheral....

Buying a car because the commercial says it has more TRUNK SPACE....who cares if it is safe, efficient, or priced right....Hey, its got more trunk space!

Hey, Kerry spoke out about the war after he got out....who cares if he could actually run the country.....he spoke out about a war that he- himself participated in....let's not vote for him!

[RossValoryRocks]

I just took over Lula's acct for a nano second.

RWF, Conversationpc, and Lie Finder- Run these numbers tonight:

Florida Obama plus 8
Nevada- Obama +4
Ohio- Obama +6
Missouri- Obama +2
and every other swing state is blue, including Virginia, North Carolina and there is a real possibility, and get this...Arizona will be close.

You are all so lucky I am banned from here. Fuck all to Hell, I would be slamming all you cons against the wall.

Stu, you too you big dildo lookin motherfucker

Love ya assface. Make your reservations to Sacramento on November 3rd and we will go fishin and drinking that weekend. Oh, PS, bring your ATM card, in fact, bring both of em!

Trust me Cons. we will live in a better country after January 20th.

The only poll that matters is the one on November 4th...and I can't come out until I vote...so it will have to be the 4th or 5th.

[whirlwind]

RedWingFan, don't remind me about that night. I went to bed happy, mission accomplished. Bush was out. I wanted him out enough to vote for Kerry. I woke up that next morning to the "horrific news" that sent me into a depression for two weeks, that Bush was re-elected and was going to be the President for the next four years.

I did the same thing! It was in the bag. I'm afraid that the same thing will happen again and I've lost faith in the system. It's such a bag of worms and everything that could go wrong, did. This time there will be so many more people voting and already they are saying that they expect new machines to malfunction.

I wonder if the history books will ever reveal how the last election was ripped off or even the one before. I could be wrong but just saying.....................

[The_Noble_Cause]

Biden and Palin both grilled on Supreme Court decisions.
Watch her squirm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBt0r9Exv2I

[treetopovskaya]

i work at a health food market & most if not all the employees are pretty lib... i'm in the middlle but i find myself leaning more & more to the right. a hippie right winger??? wtf? }:C)) i used to be far far left... thought reps were the anti-christ. anyway... one day at work one of our reps for a company we do business with was telling us all about his trip to iraq. he was saying how shocked he was to see children playing outside & going to school... happy kids. he also told us how when us troops drove by the people would cheer & wave. we are there for a reason... so those kids can play & go to school without fear. children everywhere should be able to have a childhood. what we see actually what the media shows us isn't always the whole truth.

Well I'll be damned....

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/a ... rcID=36629

I'm sure stories like this will be broadly reported.

[Jana]

Whirlwind, I live in Florida, so I really don't have much faith in the system between the Bush/Gore election fiasco and this Democratic primary where our votes did not count, and our Republican Governor (who is not gay) rushing to get engaged in the hopes of being named as McCain's VP pick. That state is in a mess with the mortgage crisis and home foreclosures, not enough money for the school system. He needed to be back here instead of courting McCain. (I voted for him, but his approval rating is going down.)

[treetopovskaya]

i heart dennis miller. };C))

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[scarygirl]

i heart dennis miller. };C))

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Oh me too. He's my fantasy husband. Smart, sexy and funny.....

[RedWingFan]

i heart dennis miller. };C))

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I remember years ago when he was doing Monday Night Football during a Raiders/Bronco's game.

Deltha O'Neil got blasted while fielding a punt. Miller said, "Whoa, he got hit so hard it may have knocked the apostrophe off his jersey"

[The_Noble_Cause]

we are there for a reason... so those kids can play & go to school without fear. children everywhere should be able to have a childhood.

As sound a justification for interventionist war as ever spoken.
Carpetbomb their villages, kill their family, erect a McDonald’s playplace, and leave.

...what we see actually what the media shows us isn't always the whole truth.

What few reporters have had the courage to go over there should be respected.
The proposition that embeded journalists are willing to risk their lives daily, yet somehow draw the line at getting their facts right is demeaning.
Tell it to Bob Woodruff in-between gauze dressing changes and psychotropic painkiller milkshakes.
Even State Department officials dreaded going over there...the media's diminishing coverage has subsided with citizen disinterest.

[treetopovskaya]

today (on the factor) he said mccain needs to stop skipping through the tulips... he needs to start kicking a few... meaning he needs to drop the hockey gloves... stop being so damn nice. true. so many times he could have just let people have it... but didn't. too nice. i LOVE what he (dm) said about "the view" bitc... er ladies... especially whoppie... hope diamond sheit... HAHAHAHAA!!! }=C))

i heart dennis miller. };C))

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Oh me too. He's my fantasy husband. Smart, sexy and funny.....

[conversationpc]

Carpetbomb their villages, kill their family, erect a McDonald’s playplace, and leave.

You have no clue what our soldiers do over there when they're not involved in a firefight or some kind of skirmish, do you? If you can show me where it's been U.S. policy to bomb and kill civilians, fine. Otherwise, quit spitting in the face of our military.

[The_Noble_Cause]

today (on the factor) he said mccain needs to stop skipping through the tulips... he needs to start kicking a few... meaning he needs to drop the hockey gloves... stop being so damn nice. true. so many times he could have just let people have it... but didn't. too nice.

Have you even been following the campaigns, or are you one of the unamed "folks" the Loofah King claims to be looking out for nightly?
Starting with the Paris Hilton ad months ago, McCain's campaign has been one big box of dirty tricks.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You have no clue what our soldiers do over there when they're not involved in a firefight or some kind of skirmish, do you? If you can show me where it's been U.S. policy to bomb and kill civilians, fine. Otherwise, quit spitting in the face of our military.

Never mentioned policy.
It's war. Shit happens.

[conversationpc]

You have no clue what our soldiers do over there when they're not involved in a firefight or some kind of skirmish, do you? If you can show me where it's been U.S. policy to bomb and kill civilians, fine. Otherwise, quit spitting in the face of our military.

Never mentioned policy.
It's war. Shit happens.

The insinuation seemed to be that we just go willy-nilly in bombing villages full of innocents. Then on the way out the door, build a "McDonald's playplace" and everything's OK. If I misunderstood, then I withdraw the statement.

[treetopovskaya]

well mccain did refuse to disclose over half of his campaign donors....

today (on the factor) he said mccain needs to stop skipping through the tulips... he needs to start kicking a few... meaning he needs to drop the hockey gloves... stop being so damn nice. true. so many times he could have just let people have it... but didn't. too nice.

Have you even been following the campaigns, or are you one of the unamed "folks" the Loofah King claims to be looking out for nightly?
Starting with the Paris Hilton ad months ago, McCain's campaign has been one big box of dirty tricks.

[conversationpc]

RWF, Conversationpc, and Lie Finder- Run these numbers tonight:

Florida Obama plus 8
Nevada- Obama +4
Ohio- Obama +6
Missouri- Obama +2
and every other swing state is blue, including Virginia, North Carolina and there is a real possibility, and get this...Arizona will be close.

We are well aware of what the polls are saying. Remember also that in 2004 going into the election, Kerry was ahead in the polls. Regardless, at this point, I am resigned to Obama being elected, unfortunately, unless something major happens.

You are all so lucky I am banned from here. Fuck all to Hell, I would be slamming all you cons against the wall.

Yeah, it's more like light taps instead of being slammed. Remember you being so sure that Hillary would be the next Democratic nominee?

[S2M]

RWF, Conversationpc, and Lie Finder- Run these numbers tonight:

Florida Obama plus 8
Nevada- Obama +4
Ohio- Obama +6
Missouri- Obama +2
and every other swing state is blue, including Virginia, North Carolina and there is a real possibility, and get this...Arizona will be close.

We are well aware of what the polls are saying. Remember also that in 2004 going into the election, Kerry was ahead in the polls. Regardless, at this point, I am resigned to Obama being elected, unfortunately, unless something major happens.

You are all so lucky I am banned from here. Fuck all to Hell, I would be slamming all you cons against the wall.

Yeah, it's more like light taps instead of being slammed. Remember you being so sure that Hillary would be the next Democratic nominee?[/quote]

We've been over that. Black women voted their race instead of their gender....

[treetopovskaya]

if everything was dictated by polls we would still have slavery. abraham lincoln went against the populist opinion and abolished slavery.

[treetopovskaya]

funny. }:C))

i heart dennis miller. };C))

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I remember years ago when he was doing Monday Night Football during a Raiders/Bronco's game.

Deltha O'Neil got blasted while fielding a punt. Miller said, "Whoa, he got hit so hard it may have knocked the apostrophe off his jersey"

[The_Noble_Cause]

Regardless, at this point, I am resigned to Obama being elected, unfortunately, unless something major happens.

Palin could always have a little birdie whispering in her ear tomm nite.
Hey, I mean, they've cribbed everything else from the Rove playbook.

[strangegrey]

Hell, with wireless technology advances over the past 4-8 years, they probably don't even need the wires anymore...

[7 Wishes]

Well, Rovites will do ANYTHING to get their guy elected. The Dems don't have anyone like that.

The Rovites do not have a "take-no-prisoners" approach to campaigning. Rather, it's more like a "kill 'em all now, let god sort 'em out" philosophy.

[conversationpc]

Palin could always have a little birdie whispering in her ear tomm nite.
Hey, I mean, they've cribbed everything else from the Rove playbook.

If Bush did cheat in that debate, it was the worst job ever. That first debate was easily his worst of the three that year.

[conversationpc]

Well, Rovites will do ANYTHING to get their guy elected. The Dems don't have anyone like that.

The Rovites do not have a "take-no-prisoners" approach to campaigning. Rather, it's more like a "kill 'em all now, let god sort 'em out" philosophy.

You're not very familiar with Democratic party tactics, are you? I've seen enough in local elections both here and in Pennsylvania and have heard enough from other areas of the country to know otherwise. Once again, it's something both parties excel at...Dirty politics.

[csiako]

how accurate are the polls?

check out all the polls before the democratic primary.. and the final result
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... y-194.html