The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[Uno_up]

...Then when BO fixes this mess, and his 8 years are up, and you run a decent candidate and win, and the economy is decent, you will claim victory and the all falsified reasoning of republicans know economies BS. The fact is Democrats handle the economy much better than the GOP.

Obama is walking into office at THE BEST time in the history of this country. Mickey Mouse could turn the market around at this point since it's inevitable it's going to bounce.

It'll come back to some degree but this country is so overburdened with debt and our citizens have so much debt also and so little in savings that it's going to be tough.

Just sayin', we'll have a new party in place come January and change alone will often spark optimism which equals buying. Yes, it could get worse, but the markets are not going to collapse. Depression is already in place. The Dow will not be trading at 5,000 or anything like that. At least this time American arrogance has been pushed aside and people are on the case trying to fix this mess. I'm optimistic we're going to see the lows quite soon. Maybe I'm a blind idiot but I don't think I'm wrong here.

[Uno_up]

great line...
"These markets are a disaster. I've lost half my net worth and I still have my wife."

[treetopovskaya]

palin or her family do not post here, the remark about baby palin having down syndrome will not hit them, however;

this may or may not be true... how do we know? anyway... there are people here who do post or just lurk that have special needs children.

btw... after dean comes in here ripping a-holes some of us really have no room to speak. for me i stop listening when people show lack of respect for each other. this is not change... it's just more of the same.

typical dem/lib mentality at work here... and out in the real world. not wanting to take the blame... take responsibility... make themselves or others accountable for their behavior/actions.

i'm not a religious person but i am finding myself praying very hard for mccain. he's a good man... not perfect... but he has our best interest at heart.

if i offended anyone i just don't care anymore... own your own crap. OWN IT!

now i am off to work to be treated like crap cuz i don't fall in line with the democraps... nice. isn't that nice?

what a bunch of open minded people... yeah...

right.

yeah... i'm pissed off... and i haven't had my coffee yet.

[Indyjoe]

MRI for my 20 month old

Praying all will be well for your little one. As well as comfort for your family through this.

[Lula]

typical dem/lib mentality at work here... and out in the real world. not wanting to take the blame... take responsibility... make themselves or others accountable for their behavior/actions.

You should really take a close gander of the republican establishment of the last 8 years. Talking about NOT taking responsibility. There are bad apples on BOTH sides, but by anyone's math, the GOP wins hands down in corruption and the neglect of responsibility. Ask Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and George Bush what "responsibility" really entails. Ask Valerie Plame how her career is going. It was taken fromn her by a bunch of asshole thieving sons of bitches. They will tell you, pardon, pay fine, stay out of jail, move on."

i'm not a religious person but i am finding myself praying very hard for mccain. he's a good man... not perfect... but he has our best interest at heart.

Correction..used to be a good man. He threw that honor away with his endless smear and lying. Fuck him.


PS- I and Lula still like you very much and hope you aren't taking this personal Wendy. It's just stupid politics. Now, if only your hockey team could win a a game

[Lula]

MRI for my 20 month old

Praying all will be well for your little one. As well as comfort for your family through this.

We here in Santa Monica second this. Godspeed to you RWF. I cannot even imagine.

[Lula]

Of which he and his staff IGNORED memos and briefings on the pending use by terrorists to use commercial aviation against us.

Maybe he should have taken cool videos like the Clinton administration did of terrorists training to kill us!!! But I guess they had a certain comfort level when they bombed our embassies, killed and dragged our soldiers through the streets and bombed the WTC the first time and we did nothing!!! And which administration was in office when the 9-11 plan was hatched, funded and the "trial runs" occurred?

Agreed, on part of this. The "soldiers dragged through the streets" was the Somalia saga, of which Bush 41 started and I think was a good and worthwhile thing to do. I supported that and I agree that Clinton did in fact handle the military ops there poorly. However, Bush in fact did NOTHING about 9/11, when the Clinton Administration did in fact warn them of this pending disaster.

2 wrongs do not make a right Dan. 9/11 falls squarely on the moronic shoulders of one George W Bush. How you Cons can blame Clinton for something that happened on W's watch is beyond me. Under that math, if God forbid these towel headed camel jockey's run rampant on these shores next year when Obama is in the White House, I won't be blaming Bush, I will blame Obama. And trust me, if and when BO fucks up, I will be all over him.

[conversationpc]

You should really take a close gander of the republican establishment of the last 8 years. Talking about NOT taking responsibility. There are bad apples on BOTH sides, but by anyone's math, the GOP wins hands down in corruption and the neglect of responsibility.

With all this financial mess, and I believe it's the fault of both sides, I've heard more Republicans taking equal blame for it. However, you've still got dems like Kerry, Pelosi, Frank, etc., REFUSING to take any responsibility and blaming it all on the Republicans and the Bush Administration.

However, Bush in fact did NOTHING about 9/11, when the Clinton Administration did in fact warn them of this pending disaster.

They were not warned of THIS impending disaster. It was known that terrorists MAY use airplanes as weapons but there was nothing specific at the time, as far as I know. Also, didn't Richard Clark, if you want to believe him, say that the Clinton Administration didn't take terrorism anymore seriously than the Bush Administration was back then?

[Lula]

With all this financial mess, and I believe it's the fault of both sides, I've heard more Republicans taking equal blame for it. However, you've still got dems like Kerry, Pelosi, Frank, etc., REFUSING to take any responsibility and blaming it all on the Republicans and the Bush Administration.

Agreed. Pelosi sucks. Frank sucks..literally

They were not warned of THIS impending disaster. It was known that terrorists MAY use airplanes as weapons but there was nothing specific at the time, as far as I know. Also, didn't Richard Clark, if you want to believe him, say that the Clinton Administration didn't take terrorism anymore seriously than the Bush Administration was back then?

Condi Rice, at the time security advisor, was in fact told by outgoing Clinton folks this was in the works. She hasn't taken blame for any fuckin thing. Her political future ends in 2 months. Plus, she is ugly as sin.

[Lula]

Oh Dave, PS---Kerry is a dumbfuck too. Hell, he couldn't defeat Bush in 2004. Even though the GOP rigged Ohio, he should have been up so much it didn't matter...and didn't matter Bush was "wired" for the debates. Remember that shit? LOL

Dumbasses all around.

[Saint John]

Frank sucks..literally

Condi Rice...is ugly as sin.

She looks like something off of fucking Star Trek.

[Lula]

When I was walking to the car I looked down and saw some dogshit. Reminded me of Condi. It had little bumps and white specs in it. It lied there, kinda like she did at the UN.

Condi, you give Stanford a bad name.

[Lula]

I mean shit, given the last few women in the past few administrations, you have to do these women or die.

What order do you progress?

Condi Rice
Madeline Albright
Donna Shalala
John Reno
Harriet Myers

Dan, cannot wait for your take on this stellar question.

[Saint John]

Condi, you give Stanford a bad name.

Isn't that a Bon Jovi song?

[conversationpc]

With all this financial mess, and I believe it's the fault of both sides, I've heard more Republicans taking equal blame for it. However, you've still got dems like Kerry, Pelosi, Frank, etc., REFUSING to take any responsibility and blaming it all on the Republicans and the Bush Administration.

Agreed. Pelosi sucks. Frank sucks..literally

They were not warned of THIS impending disaster. It was known that terrorists MAY use airplanes as weapons but there was nothing specific at the time, as far as I know. Also, didn't Richard Clark, if you want to believe him, say that the Clinton Administration didn't take terrorism anymore seriously than the Bush Administration was back then?

Condi Rice, at the time security advisor, was in fact told by outgoing Clinton folks this was in the works. She hasn't taken blame for any fuckin thing. Her political future ends in 2 months. Plus, she is ugly as sin.

I can't stand Condi Rice.

[conversationpc]

I mean shit, given the last few women in the past few administrations, you have to do these women or die.

What order do you progress?

Condi Rice
Madeline Albright
Donna Shalala
John Reno
Harriet Myers

Dan, cannot wait for your take on this stellar question.

[Lula]

I always get John Bolton and Janet Reno mixed up for some reason.

[Rhiannon]

I always get John Bolton and Janet Reno mixed up for some reason.

Could be the Adam's Apples.

[Saint John]

I mean shit, given the last few women in the past few administrations, you have to do these women or die.

What order do you progress?

Condi Rice
Madeline Albright
Donna Shalala
John Reno
Harriet Myers

Dan, cannot wait for your take on this stellar question.

Dear Lord...what a list. I think I'd be arm in arm with Bobby in Tennessee before I crawled into bed with any of those fucking gargoyles. Rice and Reno are so fucking ugly that when they jump into a bathtub the water jumps out.

[Lula]

I can see Reno undressing and down to her bra and briefs, and under those briefs being hung like Gus the field goal kicking donkey who knocked em through from 98 yds out.

Jesus Christ, dude, what were thinking? Were you hitting the bong when you created JR?

[Don]

What was that joke John McCain was fond of telling ?

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her dad is Janet Reno.

[Lula]

Actually, Chelsea is not at all bad looking. That girl is definitely doable and has a bright career in politics. I can see Chelsea vs Caribou in 2020

[Don]

Actually, Chelsea is not at all bad looking. That girl is definitely doable and has a bright career in politics. I can see Chelsea vs Caribou in 2018

I was just pimping McCain for a job as a comedian since he might have some free time on his hands. I'd hit Chelsea.

[Lula]

I was just pimping McCain for a job as a comedian since he might have some free time on his hands. I'd hit Chelsea.

Mac cracks me up. He gets so riled up and is so fucking angry. Pointing, or trying to point to "that one" while growling through his yellowish-brown chicletts has me laughing out loud. Wyatt thinks I am having a fuckin seizure. "My prisoners" LOL lost it on that one. Oh yea, he "can fix the economy" "find Osama" and "Fix partisanship." Dude, do it already.

[Rhiannon]

Mac cracks me up. He gets so riled up and is so fucking angry. Pointing, or trying to point to "that one" while growling through his yellowish-brown chicletts has me laughing out loud. Wyatt thinks I am having a fuckin seizure.

This one bears repeating...

[Lula]

They spelled chicletts wrong.

[Rhiannon]

They spelled chicletts wrong.

It's still funny though.

[Lula]

Why the fuck does Walnuts have a Canadian flag lapel on? I am sure the good citizens of Canada probably resent that. Take it off Grandpa!

[Lula]

Sorry to report this.

Obama up 8 in ....

West Virginia. Oh my, what state is next? Georgia? Don't laugh, it's close.

[RossValoryRocks]

Sorry to report this.

Obama up 8 in ....

West Virginia. Oh my, what state is next? Georgia? Don't laugh, it's close.

Dude, you know a poll like that is called an "outlier" right?

Obama won't take WVa...too many people clinging to their guns and religion there. And no I won't make a bet with you.

Obama is going to win, we all know it but get over polls, they are about meaningless. Case in point: 2004 and 2000...the pollsters we all wrong about those years.