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Postby Saint John » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:05 am

DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ... only your happy b-day thread could turn into a legal pissing match ... :lol:

Copyrights 101:

http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html


Fu Fu, that link was completely fucking useless. :lol: My question is this: If I go and snap a picture of Steve fucking Perry can I get it copyrighted without his permission? More specifically, Kathy, did you have that copyrighted with his permission, without, or does it even fucking matter? Thanks-a-fucking-million.
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Postby Tito » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:07 am

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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:08 am

It wasn't taken down as a trantrum and you were denied a copy because of how you treated J & G, don't blame them one bit. Then you get it off youtube, copy it and sell it for PV auctions. Do you think Steve would be ok with that? You show respect, you get respect. :roll: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board, it's done.....it's over. Everybody's moved on.

Wildfire wrote:I was in that video. It was shared to begin with and taken down as a tantrum. I never got a real copy, it was denied to me.

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Wildfire wrote:It is when someone takes a picture of Steve..or anyone else. You're smart Dan, you know this stuff. :?


I find it funny how you figure it was ok to share a video of that day.......which didn't belong to you at all.....belongs to Jill and Gary. Practice what you preach Kathy. :?
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Postby strangegrey » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:10 am

SJ, or anyone else that wants to know....

All copyrights are governed by the Library of Congress...and information on obtaining one, including what can, can't be copyrighted, what protections are afforded as a result of one, etc...can be found there as well.

http://www.loc.gov

The above site contains authoritative info...all other sites should not be considered authoritative, including the one posted previously in this thread.
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Postby Wildfire » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:11 am

We could get into a pissing match here, Deb. I could tell things...I NEVER sold a copy of the video. Tell another one, Deb. :evil:

Deb wrote:It wasn't taken down as a trantrum and you were denied a copy because of how you treated J & G, don't blame them one bit. Then you get it off youtube, copy it and sell it for PV auctions. Do you think Steve would be ok with that? You show respect, you get respect. :roll: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board, it's done.....it's over. Everybody's moved on.

Wildfire wrote:I was in that video. It was shared to begin with and taken down as a tantrum. I never got a real copy, it was denied to me.

Deb wrote:
Wildfire wrote:It is when someone takes a picture of Steve..or anyone else. You're smart Dan, you know this stuff. :?


I find it funny how you figure it was ok to share a video of that day.......which didn't belong to you at all.....belongs to Jill and Gary. Practice what you preach Kathy. :?
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:12 am

Saint John wrote:
DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ... only your happy b-day thread could turn into a legal pissing match ... :lol:

Copyrights 101:

http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html


Fu Fu, that link was completely fucking useless. :lol: My question is this: If I go and snap a picture of Steve fucking Perry can I get it copyrighted without his permission? More specifically, Kathy, did you have that copyrighted with his permission, without, or does it even fucking matter? Thanks-a-fucking-million.


LOL, in that case, copywrite of my AV belongs to Kip Winger. :lol: :shock:
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Postby Wildfire » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:13 am

Why did you being it up, if everyone's moved on...as you say?? :roll:

Deb wrote:It wasn't taken down as a trantrum and you were denied a copy because of how you treated J & G, don't blame them one bit. Then you get it off youtube, copy it and sell it for PV auctions. Do you think Steve would be ok with that? You show respect, you get respect. :roll: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board, it's done.....it's over. Everybody's moved on.

Wildfire wrote:I was in that video. It was shared to begin with and taken down as a tantrum. I never got a real copy, it was denied to me.

Deb wrote:
Wildfire wrote:It is when someone takes a picture of Steve..or anyone else. You're smart Dan, you know this stuff. :?
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:14 am

strangegrey wrote:The above site contains authoritative info...all other sites should not be considered authoritative, including the one posted previously in this thread.


Thank you, Counsel. :wink:

So you can't claim copyrights unless the specific piece is registered with the Library of Congress? So, if I take a picture of my shoe, and post it here, and someone else posts it... and it was not legally copyrighted, I'd have no ground to stand on... correct?
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Postby Tito » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:14 am

Alright! Now that's what I'm talking about! Yes! Catfight!
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Postby Saint John » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:16 am

Deb wrote: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board
Oh...please do!!! :lol: :twisted:
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:23 am

Are you trying to say you never shared that copied video with anyone? I know for a fact you have. And the only reason you didn't sell it for an auction is because Jill found out and sent you an email to stop you. LOL, you could tell things?! Now that's funny. This isn't kindergarten.

The only reason I posted here is because it was an innocent use in a HB thread. :roll: No big deal. And contrary to your beliefs, you do not own everything Steve Perry. I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you, if you want to carry it on, PM me........but I said my piece when I left PV. Nothings changed.


Wildfire wrote:We could get into a pissing match here, Deb. I could tell things...I NEVER sold a copy of the video. Tell another one, Deb. :evil:

Deb wrote:It wasn't taken down as a trantrum and you were denied a copy because of how you treated J & G, don't blame them one bit. Then you get it off youtube, copy it and sell it for PV auctions. Do you think Steve would be ok with that? You show respect, you get respect. :roll: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board, it's done.....it's over. Everybody's moved on.

Wildfire wrote:I was in that video. It was shared to begin with and taken down as a tantrum. I never got a real copy, it was denied to me.

Deb wrote:
Wildfire wrote:It is when someone takes a picture of Steve..or anyone else. You're smart Dan, you know this stuff. :?


I find it funny how you figure it was ok to share a video of that day.......which didn't belong to you at all.....belongs to Jill and Gary. Practice what you preach Kathy. :?
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Postby DrFU » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:24 am

strangegrey wrote:SJ, or anyone else that wants to know....

All copyrights are governed by the Library of Congress...and information on obtaining one, including what can, can't be copyrighted, what protections are afforded as a result of one, etc...can be found there as well.

http://www.loc.gov

The above site contains authoritative info...all other sites should not be considered authoritative, including the one posted previously in this thread.


please ... there's a nice user-friendly site :lol:

Legions of attorneys support their Porche payments sorting this stuff out. It's complicated to say the least.

SJ, there is not a straightforward "yes" or "no" answer to your question. Its not only copyright laws involved, but privacy rights as well. And public figures are special cases. They've surrendered some, but not all their expectations of privacy. It also depends on if the photo taken will be used in a for-profit venture. Celebrities retain the rights to profit from their images.

In any case, HFBD, Blue Jean Girl! Hope it was a great one.
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:26 am

Tito wrote:Alright! Now that's what I'm talking about! Yes! Catfight!
i want to see some titties Tito
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Postby Wildfire » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:26 am

Enlighten me, please do. I NEVER sold the vid. Yeah, PM me.

Deb wrote:It wasn't taken down as a trantrum and you were denied a copy because of how you treated J & G, don't blame them one bit. Then you get it off youtube, copy it and sell it for PV auctions. Do you think Steve would be ok with that? You show respect, you get respect. :roll: Not going to bring all this crap up on a public board, it's done.....it's over. Everybody's moved on.

Wildfire wrote:I was in that video. It was shared to begin with and taken down as a tantrum. I never got a real copy, it was denied to me.

Deb wrote:
Wildfire wrote:It is when someone takes a picture of Steve..or anyone else. You're smart Dan, you know this stuff. :?


I find it funny how you figure it was ok to share a video of that day.......which didn't belong to you at all.....belongs to Jill and Gary. Practice what you preach Kathy. :?
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Postby Saint John » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:30 am

Thanks, Fu Fu. :D
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:32 am

DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ...


It seems that way doesn't it. Jeesh wtf did I do? I have played nice for a really fucking long time now. Let the record show that I didn't even have jack all to do with this particular brawl.

And may I ask ... why be in this thread if you weren't gonna leave a HBD message to start with... I know for sure that I'm not any kind of favorite person of those who run PV, so why even bother clicking on anything that said bluejeangirl. Then no one would have seen whatever was posted or have anything to complain about.

a4p obviously didn't know there was DRAMA behind what she did. She was just trying to have some fun and post something cute. Obviously she enjoyed those pics or she wouldn't have used them. I'd consider it a compliment.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:33 am

Fuck it...somone send me the picture. I'll post that fucker. :lol:
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:37 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ...


It seems that way doesn't it. Jeesh wtf did I do? I have played nice for a really fucking long time now. Let the record show that I didn't even have jack all to do with this particular brawl.

And may I ask ... why be in this thread if you weren't gonna leave a HBD message to start with... I know for sure that I'm not any kind of favorite person of those who run PV, so why even bother clicking on anything that said bluejeangirl. Then no one would have seen whatever was posted or have anything to complain about.

a4p obviously didn't know there was DRAMA behind what she did. She was just trying to have some fun and post something cute. Obviously she enjoyed those pics or she wouldn't have used them. I'd consider it a compliment.


Don't let it the attention-seeking miserables who are only concerned with themselves and their greed get to you. Bitch all one wants about this, yes drama, but at least have the decency and courtesy to say a half-assed HB since you're going to thump in here and fuss up the place.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:41 am

Saint John wrote:Fuck it...somone send me the picture. I'll post that fucker. :lol:


The one that a4p did with that cat was cute and funny and I was gonna shrink it for an avatar. Guess I better not, huh? :shock:
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:41 am

Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ...


It seems that way doesn't it. Jeesh wtf did I do? I have played nice for a really fucking long time now. Let the record show that I didn't even have jack all to do with this particular brawl.

And may I ask ... why be in this thread if you weren't gonna leave a HBD message to start with... I know for sure that I'm not any kind of favorite person of those who run PV, so why even bother clicking on anything that said bluejeangirl. Then no one would have seen whatever was posted or have anything to complain about.

a4p obviously didn't know there was DRAMA behind what she did. She was just trying to have some fun and post something cute. Obviously she enjoyed those pics or she wouldn't have used them. I'd consider it a compliment.


Don't let it the attention-seeking miserables who are only concerned with themselves and their greed get to you. Bitch all one wants about this, yes drama, but at least have the decency and courtesy to say a half-assed HB since you're going to thump in here and fuss up the place.


True dat! And sorry for my part in the derailment. And if Jonny wasn't enough, here ya go BJG....... :wink: Muwaaa. :)

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Postby Purrkat » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:43 am

Geez. Here we go. That's mine and you can't have it garbage. :P

As for copyrighting: you don't have to file anything with the LOC (Library of Congress) in order for it to be copyrighted.
If you can PROVE that the original work is yours that is all that is needed. No forms to fill out etc.
Go here and get your reading in for the year: http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html

Anyway, this thread was supposed to be a freakin' HAPPY BIRTHDAY THREAD for BJG. If someone wants to biatch at someone else about a stupid freakin picture, then start a NEW THREAD.

Gosh, what a bunch of little kids. :roll:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:45 am

Rhiannon wrote:[
Don't let it the attention-seeking miserables who are only concerned with themselves and their greed get to you. Bitch all one wants about this, yes drama, but at least have the decency and courtesy to say a half-assed HB since you're going to thump in here and fuss up the place.


Its not getting to me. This place is a circus anyway, what else is new.
At least I'm not in the middle of it for a change. :lol: :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:51 am

Deb wrote:
True dat! And sorry for my part in the derailment. And if Jonny wasn't enough, here ya go BJG....... :wink: Muwaaa. :)

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No apolgies needed. I'm rather enjoying the mayhem. I like being a bystander. I've already had my MR brawl for the year (thanks SJ!! was fun!!! :lol: ) a couple months ago.

Wow... WWPD... what would Perry do? :shock:

(he'd say "and you mental patients wonder why I don't take pictures anymore?" :lol: )
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:53 am

Deb wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ...


It seems that way doesn't it. Jeesh wtf did I do? I have played nice for a really fucking long time now. Let the record show that I didn't even have jack all to do with this particular brawl.

And may I ask ... why be in this thread if you weren't gonna leave a HBD message to start with... I know for sure that I'm not any kind of favorite person of those who run PV, so why even bother clicking on anything that said bluejeangirl. Then no one would have seen whatever was posted or have anything to complain about.

a4p obviously didn't know there was DRAMA behind what she did. She was just trying to have some fun and post something cute. Obviously she enjoyed those pics or she wouldn't have used them. I'd consider it a compliment.


Don't let it the attention-seeking miserables who are only concerned with themselves and their greed get to you. Bitch all one wants about this, yes drama, but at least have the decency and courtesy to say a half-assed HB since you're going to thump in here and fuss up the place.


True dat! And sorry for my part in the derailment. And if Jonny wasn't enough, here ya go BJG....... :wink: Muwaaa. :)

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:59 am

stevew2 wrote:I swear his cheeks are going to explode


Heyyy. Be nice. No ripping on Espee in my thread. Take that shit back to the Cubs/Dodgers thread where it came from, pretty please. :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:01 am

stevew2 wrote:I swear his cheeks are going to explode


Back off the Per, Stevie2! :twisted: :lol:
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:06 am

Deb wrote:[
True dat! And sorry for my part in the derailment. And if Jonny wasn't enough, here ya go BJG....... :wink: Muwaaa. :)

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nice pic!! it's mine now--I right clicked!!! muahahahaha!!! :twisted: come to Firefest and slap the schutt outta me why dontcha???

hehe. I still think that one of Jill and 'the kiss' is the best thing I have ever seen.

HBD BJG. hope it was a great one!!
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Postby artist4perry » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:22 am

Wow :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: All I did was try to explain to BJG why I posted a picture for her, then removed it. I removed it because I was asked to. In all fairness she did ask nicely. Now if someone copied it before I removed it, I have no control over that. As for finding it on your site Kathy, I found it on a blog site. Not your PV site. So it seems you need to troll the entire web and find out who else has your picture. I meant no harm or disrespect to you, Steve, or anyone. I was wondering, do you own the rights to all the pictures on your site? I understand these pictures of yours were sentimental, so out of respect I removed them.

Anyway. BJG Happy Birthday. No picture involved. :D :D No problem.
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:26 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:nice pic!! it's mine now--I right clicked!!! muahahahaha!!! :twisted: come to Firefest and slap the schutt outta me why dontcha???

hehe. I still think that one of Jill and 'the kiss' is the best thing I have ever seen.
HBD BJG. hope it was a great one!!


I love that one! She is such a doll. :) Her and Gary are the best, so great of them to put us DebS up for the night at the San Juan Cap JSSB show too. Just talked to her the other night, Deb, she's doing good. Had to give her a hard time though, she didn't know who EM was in my AV! :shock: What?!! :lol:

Would love to come to Firefest, especially to see you, Linda and Maria again. But the UK is out of the question. :( Besides, I think I hit my quota of excitement at the Scrap Metal show a week and a bit ago.....still bouncing off the walls. :lol: :shock: You guys have a ball! :D
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Postby Tito » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:29 am

stevew2 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
DrFU wrote:BJG, you attract trouble like a lint roller ...


It seems that way doesn't it. Jeesh wtf did I do? I have played nice for a really fucking long time now. Let the record show that I didn't even have jack all to do with this particular brawl.

And may I ask ... why be in this thread if you weren't gonna leave a HBD message to start with... I know for sure that I'm not any kind of favorite person of those who run PV, so why even bother clicking on anything that said bluejeangirl. Then no one would have seen whatever was posted or have anything to complain about.

a4p obviously didn't know there was DRAMA behind what she did. She was just trying to have some fun and post something cute. Obviously she enjoyed those pics or she wouldn't have used them. I'd consider it a compliment.


Don't let it the attention-seeking miserables who are only concerned with themselves and their greed get to you. Bitch all one wants about this, yes drama, but at least have the decency and courtesy to say a half-assed HB since you're going to thump in here and fuss up the place.


True dat! And sorry for my part in the derailment. And if Jonny wasn't enough, here ya go BJG....... :wink: Muwaaa. :)

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Nice hair. I wonder what beauty salon he goes too.
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