The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

McCain, despite his elder statesman status, comes off petty and borderline sinister.
Obama is a profile in calmness under pressure.

[Lula]

clearly we see things differently neo cons and dems

mccain can't keep an organized thought; he's all over the place. nice going with the ayers comment as it went nowhere fast. i like the way mccain sold sarah as a viable prez

no doubt mccain has had his moments of clarity, but not enough and yes has been petty.

[cookieduster]

clearly we see things differently

mccain can't keep an organized thought; he's all over the place. nice going with the ayers comment as it went nowhere fast. i like the way mccain sold sarah as a viable prez

McCain is clearly losing the debate, but I don't see anything funny about it.
I think they are both coming across as trifling.

[RedWingFan]

It's been awhile since I've watched a debate with some democrats.

I was watching up in the breakroom.

A couple people from the maintenance company sat down. McCain said his line about "using the hatchet then using the scalpel."
Cleaninglady:"What's a scapel"
Cleaningguy:"It's a big knife"
I couldn't stop laughing.

[Angel]

It's been awhile since I've watched a debate with some democrats.

I was watching up in the breakroom.

A couple people from the maintenance company sat down. McCain said his line about "using the hatchet then using the scalpel."
Cleaninglady:"What's a scapel"
Cleaningguy:"It's a big knife"
I couldn't stop laughing.

[RedWingFan]

It's been awhile since I've watched a debate with some democrats.

I was watching up in the breakroom.

A couple people from the maintenance company sat down. McCain said his line about "using the hatchet then using the scalpel."
Cleaninglady:"What's a scapel"
Cleaningguy:"It's a big knife"
I couldn't stop laughing.

You liked that?

A few minutes later when McCain brought up "Autism"

Cleaninglady: "Autism? They call it Autism here, but where I'm from they call it mongoload"

[7 Wishes]

They're both making valid points. I actually like both of these men...just not their campaigns.

[RossValoryRocks]

They're both making valid points. I actually like both of these men...just not their campaigns.

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

[7 Wishes]

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

If things go as haywire as you believe they will, might I suggest investing in gold? Paper currency will be worthless in five years. An Egg McMuffin and a coffee will cost you $39.95 in 2011.

[RossValoryRocks]

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

If things go as haywire as you believe they will, might I suggest investing in gold? Paper currency will be worthless in five years. An Egg McMuffin and a coffee will cost you $39.95 in 2011.

Got that in the portfolio as well..

[Enigma869]

Obama looks very very tired and smug.

Partisan politics are hilarious. I honestly thought most of these debates were a tossup. I thought Obama won this one, quite easily tonight. It will be interesting to see the poll numbers the next couple of days. My prediction is that Obama's numbers (which are already a double digit lead) will grow, on the heels of this debate. I originally (before McCain picked Palin) thought this would be a very close election. I now believe Obama will win this one, quite easily.


John from Boston

[7 Wishes]

I've heard it's all about ball bearings these days.

[nutz4Neal]

They're both making valid points. I actually like both of these men...just not their campaigns.

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

I hope you're wrong, Stu; but just in case you're right, I think our Christmas will be slim this year and I won't be putting in new kitchen flooring as I had wished for cause, our (meager as it is) wealth will be distributed to those less fortunate. Sad days ahead.

[7 Wishes]

For fuck's sake, stop taking the bait.

The Independent Tax Research Center has confirmed Obama's plan will save 82% of the country more money and provide more tax relief.

[RossValoryRocks]

They're both making valid points. I actually like both of these men...just not their campaigns.

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

I hope you're wrong, Stu; but just in case you're right, I think our Christmas will be slim this year and I won't be putting in new kitchen flooring as I had wished for cause, our (meager as it is) wealth will be distributed to those less fortunate. Sad days ahead.

I am not sure I endorse John's view Obama is going to run away with it...but I would put money on his winning this thing. Then again...the average of the polls shows Obama with about a 6 point lead nationally...Kerry had an 8 point lead in 2004 on election day...so you never know...but I wouldn't bet on it...

I should have put money into the Presidential Market (pick the winner kind of thing) this time last year when Obama was about $4/share to make it...pay 4 bucks per "stock" and if he wins get $100...I could have bought a thousand and made $96,000. Oh well...win some...lose some!

[donnaplease]

I think if we could get a candidate who took the best of both Obama and McCain we could go somewhere....

But I am stock piling cash right now for Obama's inevitable win.

If things go as haywire as you believe they will, might I suggest investing in gold? Paper currency will be worthless in five years. An Egg McMuffin and a coffee will cost you $39.95 in 2011.

Yeah but the dudes in AIG will be relaxed... and the partridge hunting was good.

[RedWingFan]

For fuck's sake, stop taking the bait.

The Independent Tax Research Center has confirmed Obama's plan will save 82% of the country more money and provide more tax relief.

Bait? Why don't you look up how much tax relief Bill Clinton's promised middle class tax cut plan saved us? Oh wait, he lied. Baited us with a tax cut and switched it with a hike. Taking Obama at his word is your first mistake.

[Voyager]

joe the plumber. hehehee.

i thought he was joe six pack or is that later when he gets home?

that was funny. }:C)

WHO IS THIS JOE???

biden? poor joe. }:C)

It's Joe O'Biden.

[7 Wishes]

Were it not for the 8 years of Clintonomics, this country would be deep into the Second Depression.

[Lula]

i miss bill clinton. he's so cool.

[Enigma869]

i miss bill clinton. he's so cool.

I miss Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan. Every other president in my lifetime has been very forgettable, and a few of them have been disasters!


John from Boston

[treetopovskaya]

he doesn't check his email i am told. }:CP

i don't get yer sig dea... er lula... i thought you were for obama. i'm confused. looks like he's taking a flying leap into some pooh the shape of the united states. haha!

i miss bill clinton. he's so cool.

[YoungJRNY]

McCain looks like one of those flip comic books. The guy doesn't bend and moves in slow strokes. It also looks like he stuffs his suite with some kind of toilet paper. His teeth looks like the Green Goblins. Let me add that he looks like a Scooby Doo character.

Anyway, McCain clearly went on the attack for his last deep breath. It's almost like he was on his hands and knees pleading to the American people to hear him out one last time. Clearly in defense mode. He seemed puny and cried like a little baby and made it seemed he was telling on Obama who he thought was picking on him. If Howard Dean didn't get picked for nomination because he was a hot-head for making that speech then McCain should lose this election by a landslide. McCain was fuming and can't handle tense circumstances.

Fortunately for Obama and unfortunate for McCain, is that Obama was simply just, Barack Obama. Calm, cool, collected with excellent responses and stuck to what worked. All he had to due was take a knee and except the fact he hands down has this election won. Polls don't lie.

Obama in a landslide.

[treetopovskaya]

classy.

*edit*

McCain looks like one of those flip comic books. The guy doesn't bend and moves in slow strokes. It also looks like he stuffs his suite with some kind of toilet paper. His teeth looks like the Green Goblins. Let me add that he looks like a Scooby Doo character.

Anyway, McCain clearly went on the attack for his last deep breath. It's almost like he was on his hands and knees pleading to the American people to hear him out one last time. Clearly in defense mode. He seemed puny and cried like a little baby and made it seemed he was telling on Obama who he though was picking on him. If Howard Dean didn't get picked for nomination because he was a hot-head for making that speech then McCain should lose this election by a landslide. McCain was fuming and can't handle tense circumstances.

Fortunately for Obama and unfortunate for McCain, is that Obama was simply just, Barack Obama. Calm, cool, collected with excellent responses and stuck to what worked. All he had to due was take a knee and except the fact he hands down has this election won. Polls don't lie.

Obama in a landslide.

[Lula]

he doesn't check his email i am told. }:CP

i don't get yer sig dea... er lula... i thought you were for obama. i'm confused. looks like he's taking a flying leap into some pooh the shape of the united states. haha!

i miss bill clinton. he's so cool.

lol you said pooh. pooh is to bear as poo is to doo doo

dean added the sig and took off my dr. seuss quote and not by request i believe it is obama crossing the u.s and finish line of 270 electoral votes.

[Loneman1]

[tj]

classy.

*edit*

McCain looks like one of those flip comic books. The guy doesn't bend and moves in slow strokes. It also looks like he stuffs his suite with some kind of toilet paper. His teeth looks like the Green Goblins. Let me add that he looks like a Scooby Doo character.

Anyway, McCain clearly went on the attack for his last deep breath. It's almost like he was on his hands and knees pleading to the American people to hear him out one last time. Clearly in defense mode. He seemed puny and cried like a little baby and made it seemed he was telling on Obama who he though was picking on him. If Howard Dean didn't get picked for nomination because he was a hot-head for making that speech then McCain should lose this election by a landslide. McCain was fuming and can't handle tense circumstances.

Fortunately for Obama and unfortunate for McCain, is that Obama was simply just, Barack Obama. Calm, cool, collected with excellent responses and stuck to what worked. All he had to due was take a knee and except the fact he hands down has this election won. Polls don't lie.

Obama in a landslide.

McCain's stiff movements are due to his war injuries. 7 years of brutal beatings as a Vietnam POW. If you endured 5 minutes of it, you wouldn't ever be comparing him to cartoon characters again.

He chose to "attack" because so many of the issues he is highlighting have been given a pass by the media. Turn the issues around (if McCain had the issues instead of Obama) and he would be crucified daily by the media. McCain is just doing the job that the media would be doing if Obama were a Republican or Independent. Obama is unique and much of America is enamored with him.

Polls don't lie, but people often do. I don't know who will win, but if Obama wins, America and the Republicans will get what they have earned.

[conversationpc]

I know the polls will probably show different but I thought McCain was the clear winner last night. Both candidates made good points but I thought McCain clearly took Obama off guard on a couple of occasions just judging by the look on Obama's face at some points.

Overall, for the three debates, I thought the first was a tie, the second went slightly to Obama, and the third to McCain.

[strangegrey]

I was simply shocked to death to watch McPain...that fucking useless, crybaby, douchebag, waste of breath....

..vag flap on and on about t-shirts.


WTF!

This country is headed into a deep recession or possibly depression. And this fucking loser is vag flapping about t-shirts that someone wears to an obama rally?


The country's got deep seated problems...and this fucking guy is worried about a t-shirt that hurts his feelings.!!!

WTF!!!!



I'm sorry folks. He is *NOT* presidential material. I want someone a little more unflappable sitting behind the resolute desk. Not someone that's going to look like he's constipated with Cain's eggplant everytime someone wears a t-shirt he doesn't like.


I want a president who's going to look at this economic crisis with cold hard eyes and fix it.....not divert the question to who's wearing the most hurtful t-shirts!


WTF. McPain lost what little pube hair of credibility and respect I had for him last night. He's a lying, two-faced douchebag.....

[Rick]

I know the polls will probably show different but I thought McCain was the clear winner last night. Both candidates made good points but I thought McCain clearly took Obama off guard on a couple of occasions just judging by the look on Obama's face at some points.

Overall, for the three debates, I thought the first was a tie, the second went slightly to Obama, and the third to McCain.

I do agree, he did have Obama a couple of times with the caught in the headlights look, but I think after a few seconds, Obama was able to collect his thoughts and give an acceptable explanation. McCains attack dog approach did him no favors. I thought Obama was the cooler, more collected debater. Debates are supposed to be about presenting the stronger case, not attacking your opponent. I gave Obama the edge in 2 of the debates and a tie in one.