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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:43 am

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Rhiannon wrote:Honestly... could she be any worse than VPs before her... Quayle, Gore, Cheney... they're all blockheads too if you ask me.


Gore, I will submit, is an intelligent person...sometimes dreadfully misguided.
Cheney as as smart a tactician as they come and he's brilliant.
Quayle...well, I'm not going there. I certainly think he's got a bad rap from the "potatoe" thing...but there's intelligence there. Hell, I have so much trouble with double consonants that it's not funny...but I've got a pretty impressive academic resume.

I will submit, that each and every above mentioned Vice President could name at least 3-4 supreme court cases. Palin could only name one, and that one was served to her on a silver platter.


Well, coming from someone who was born when Shrub Sr was VP, went to elementary school under Quayle's reign, and so on... I can honestly say in my entire life I've never paid one lick of attention to what the hell the VP does as anytime one made the news it was for something dumb anyway. Quayle was a goofy SOB (maybe it is the potatoE thing), Gore is like some tard from Tennessee who kinda went off the deep end with his "I invented the internets" and "Inconvenient Whocareswhathe'sroaringabouththistime"... and Cheney shot a dude in the face while his boss choked on pretzels.

I'd say Sarah's shortcomings are made up for in her genuine care for the country. She seems to me to be the only person in this election who has that "America... fuck yeah!" attitude.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:43 am

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who needs to get back to Alaska to kill some animals, before hunting season ends!


While the true Feminists kill their babies. That season never ends now does it? Make love not war, abort the fetus.


OOOOhhhhh. Check and mate. :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:46 am

RedWingFan wrote:Someone gives you photographic evidence of her popularity and you fly off the handle in anger, and start calling her a moron. Are you 12?


Who gives a fuck how "popular" she is??? What the hell does that have to do with anything? Are you 12?? Britney Spears is VERY popular. Does that mean she's qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? As I said, she could sell out an arena with 100K people, and that's not all of a sudden going to cause her brain cells to engage! She's a MORON!


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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:49 am

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RedWingFan wrote:Someone gives you photographic evidence of her popularity and you fly off the handle in anger, and start calling her a moron. Are you 12?


Who gives a fuck how "popular" she is???


You do realize that elections are won with "votes".....right?
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:52 am

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Rhiannon wrote:Honestly... could she be any worse than VPs before her... Quayle, Gore, Cheney... they're all blockheads too if you ask me.



While I agree with you that the previous VP's you mentioned were useless, Palin takes stupidity to a whole new level. Quayle got castigated for not being able to spell potato. I'll take a guy who can't spell, over a moron who can't think of a single newspaper or magazine she has ever read in her life. I won't even get into the Supreme Court thing or her exceptional foreign policy credentials that she cited, all because Putin used to fly into Alaska's airspace. Honestly, I don't know how the most ardent McCain supporter can defend this jackass. If I were a McCain supporter, I'd be pissed that he picked the woman, because he would probably win this election if he selected someone who was remotely qualified!


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In the end, I don't see how it matters anyway. Biden may be more intelligent, politically, but he has the personality and people skills of a chainsaw.
Either way, the next four years are going to be awkward.
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:53 am

Rhiannon wrote:Well, coming from someone who was born when Shrub Sr was VP, went to elementary school under Quayle's reign, and so on... I can honestly say in my entire life I've never paid one lick of attention to what the hell the VP does as anytime one made the news it was for something dumb anyway. Quayle was a goofy SOB (maybe it is the potatoE thing), Gore is like some tard from Tennessee who kinda went off the deep end with his "I invented the internets" and "Inconvenient Whocareswhathe'sroaringabouththistime"... and Cheney shot a dude in the face while his boss choked on pretzels.

I'd say Sarah's shortcomings are made up for in her genuine care for the country. She seems to me to be the only person in this election who has that "America... fuck yeah!" attitude.


I'll agre that the VP candidate is rather inconsequential, unless a president dies in office. I think what makes people more concerned about Palin, is that McCain's the oldest possible president. He very well could die in office of natural causes.

I've also said that i think the president is inconsequential in comparison to the power congress has to reign him in, if necessary. I think people should worry more about their elected representatives than who's getting blown under the resolute desk. jmho.


As far as Palin's "America....fuck yeah!" attitude, while I see how that can be energizing to some people....this economy and the way our current lame duck has fucked up this country, leaves very little for people to be 'America....fuck yeah!' on.

It really, and I hate to use such a dreaded liberal media buzzword....is turning into a bit of a mandate. Obama's lead is becoming a case of "about face this country, post haste and send Hayseed packing"....Palin and MCCain dont give one shred of evidence that they are prepared to do that.....despite their empty assertions....
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:56 am

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RedWingFan wrote:Someone gives you photographic evidence of her popularity and you fly off the handle in anger, and start calling her a moron. Are you 12?


Who gives a fuck how "popular" she is???


You do realize that elections are won with "votes".....right?


Yes, and you do realize that 'popular votes' don't matter...right?

Electorally, McCain/Palin are in deep shite. Palin could be speaking to 20,000 DisDain supporters in Bangor, Maine....but on Nov 4th, that state is going to go so fucking Blue, that people will think the Smurfs invaded. So in the end, speaking to 10 people or 10,000 doesn't very much matter.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:57 am

RedWingFan wrote:You do realize that elections are won with "votes".....right?



And you do realize that this country has more than 300 million people, and that 15,000 people showing up to look at Palin's tits means absolutely nothing, right :shock:


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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:01 am

Enigma869 wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:You do realize that elections are won with "votes".....right?



And you do realize that this country has more than 300 million people, and that 15,000 people showing up to look at Palin's tits means absolutely nothing, right :shock:


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Ah, yes all of us who are voting against Obama are doing so because we're racist. Everyone showing up to Palin's rally's is just to look at her tits. Your stereotyping is every bit as bad as the worst racist you ever encountered in the south.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:02 am

strangegrey wrote:I'll agre that the VP candidate is rather inconsequential, unless a president dies in office. I think what makes people more concerned about Palin, is that McCain's the oldest possible president. He very well could die in office of natural causes.


I will agree with that... the thought of Sarah becoming pres by a kick the bucket default is unsettling to me. The VP is pretty much political PR as long as the big guy's still thumping. She can do PR. Just don't ask her for a dissertation on foreign relations. But, in that same respect, I don't think either of the four is capable of being a true presidential leader. I'd almost go for a McCain/Biden ticket right now... seriously.
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:02 am

Fact Finder wrote:But not babies!


This is part of the issue I have with the religious right...and i'm catholic, for fucks sake.

The assertion by pro-lifers that the left is pro-abortion (i.e. every woman should experience the joy and exhuberation of an abortion at least once)....is assinine.

Not only does it water down their own position and make it appear rediculous...it's patently not true. While Im not pro-choice, I've got no illusions regarding this. I highly doubt there's more than a small handful of women in this country who have had abortions that didn't struggle, mightily, with the decision to have one. They might have even regretted such a decission. But to suggest that they go into the decission with glee and excitement over the premise that they're exercising their rights as protected by Roe v. Wade.....is fucking rediculous.

It's the people that go "Baby Killer" and raid planned parenthood locations with liberal-like melodrama that make the pro-life movement very difficult to align with....and very difficult to support.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:09 am

OBAMA: "One hundred percent, John, of your ads — 100 percent of them — have been negative."
THE FACTS: The statement is mostly true when it comes to McCain's current commercial spots. But by saying McCain's ads "have been" 100 percent negative, Obama ventures into misleading territory. A recent study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin-Madison found that in the first week of October "nearly 100 percent" of McCain's ads were negative. The study also reported, however, that to date 73 percent of McCain's ads have been negative and that 61 percent of Obama's ads have been negative.
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McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."
THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. The study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.
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McCAIN: Said of Obama's running mate Sen. Joe Biden: "He had this cockamamie idea of dividing Iraq into three countries."
THE FACTS: Biden actually proposed dividing Iraq into three semiautonomous regions, not separate countries. He was a prime sponsor of a nonbinding Senate resolution that called for Iraq to have federal regions under the control of Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis in a power-sharing agreement similar to the one that ended the 1990s war in Bosnia.
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OBAMA: Said he would be "completely supportive" of late-term abortion restrictions "as long as there's an exception for the mother's health and life."
THE FACTS: Obama leaves himself a lot of latitude in this answer. A woman's "health" has been so broadly interpreted that it can include conditions, including psychological conditions, that are difficult to diagnose or prove. Anti-abortion advocates say that makes the ban meaningless, because it leaves too much subjective judgment in the equation.
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MCCAIN: "Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois state Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born in a failed abortion. He voted against that."
OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."
THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive. Among those opposed to the state effort was the Illinois State Medical Society, which argued that the bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and expand civil liability for doctors. Critics said the proposed legislation would have undermined the landmark Supreme Court case on abortion, Roe v. Wade, in ways the federal law would not.
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McCAIN: "Senator Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year."
THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding resolution and did not increase taxes. The resolution assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000.
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OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
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McCAIN: "Vouchers, where they are requested and where they are agreed to, are a good and workable system, and it's been proven."
THE FACTS: McCain's education plan proposes more private-school vouchers for only one jurisdiction: Washington, D.C. It's unclear whether the four-year-old Washington program is actually working. So far, the Education Department has found little if any difference in the test scores of kids who got vouchers to attend private school.
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McCAIN: "We can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil by building 45 nuclear power plants right away."
THE FACTS: For nuclear power to lower oil dependency would require a massive shift to electric or hybrid-electric cars, with nuclear power providing the electricity. No new U.S. nuclear reactor has been built since the 1970s. Although 15 utilities have filed applications to build 24 new reactors, none is expected to be built before 2015 at the earliest. Turmoil in the credit markets could force cancellation of some of the projects now planned, much less spur construction of 45 new reactors, as reactor costs have soared to about $9 billion apiece.
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:11 am

Enigma869 wrote:McCAIN: "We can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil by building 45 nuclear power plants right away."
THE FACTS: For nuclear power to lower oil dependency would require a massive shift to electric or hybrid-electric cars, with nuclear power providing the electricity. No new U.S. nuclear reactor has been built since the 1970s. Although 15 utilities have filed applications to build 24 new reactors, none is expected to be built before 2015 at the earliest. Turmoil in the credit markets could force cancellation of some of the projects now planned, much less spur construction of 45 new reactors, as reactor costs have soared to about $9 billion apiece.[/b]


This is one that had me choking on my food. Kinda hard to power gas-powered cars with nuclear reactors....what a fucking idiot.

combined with his inability to understand markets, as evidenced by his 'evil' oil v. 'good' oil
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:50 am

strangegrey wrote:http://www.palinaspresident.com



The baby names on the wall are fucking hilarious!


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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:51 am

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strangegrey wrote:http://www.palinaspresident.com



The baby names on the wall are fucking hilarious!


Click on the red phone... :lol:
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Postby BobbyinTN » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:53 am

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Saint John wrote:McCain should be frustrated. It's gotta be hard to be barely able to lift your arms from injuries suffered protecting your country while trying to cope with being behind in the polls to a man who has surrounded himself his entire life with anti-american socialists and communists. While McCain certainly isn't the world's gretaest candidate he should at least win by default if Americans have any common sense. Obama's company over the last 20+ years has basically made voting for him a borderline act of treason.



The only flaw in your argument is that McCain selected a dope, with a box of rocks in her head, as his running mate! I think many people in this election will be voting against Puppet Palin and not against John McCain!


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Sarah Palin has the highest approval rating of any governor in this country. She's taken on big oil, made her state better and even fought to give fags benefits. She's shown the ability to fight big companies, fix state problems, and cross the aisle to veto a bill denying benefits to gays, as unconstitutional. She's fought for benefits for those that choose to live a disgusting lifestyle even though she disagrees with that lifestyle.



The highest approval from the least populated state. That's hilarious. However, I'm sure she seems perfect to someone with your IQ.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:55 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Click on the red phone... :lol:


Thanks for the tip, Rhi. I didn't realize it was an interactive exhibit :lol:


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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:59 am

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Rhiannon wrote:Click on the red phone... :lol:


Thanks for the tip, Rhi. I didn't realize it was an interactive exhibit :lol:


Hehehe... watch for the velociraptor walking by the window too. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:02 am

BobbyinTN wrote:The highest approval from the least populated state. That's hilarious. However, I'm sure she seems perfect to someone with your IQ.


Check your own IQ there pal...Wyoming, Vermont, and North Dakota all have a lower population than does Alaska. That puts Alaska at #47. Also, Delaware, which is the state Biden represents, is only at #45.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:05 am

BobbyinTN wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote:McCain should be frustrated. It's gotta be hard to be barely able to lift your arms from injuries suffered protecting your country while trying to cope with being behind in the polls to a man who has surrounded himself his entire life with anti-american socialists and communists. While McCain certainly isn't the world's gretaest candidate he should at least win by default if Americans have any common sense. Obama's company over the last 20+ years has basically made voting for him a borderline act of treason.



The only flaw in your argument is that McCain selected a dope, with a box of rocks in her head, as his running mate! I think many people in this election will be voting against Puppet Palin and not against John McCain!


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Sarah Palin has the highest approval rating of any governor in this country. She's taken on big oil, made her state better and even fought to give fags benefits. She's shown the ability to fight big companies, fix state problems, and cross the aisle to veto a bill denying benefits to gays, as unconstitutional. She's fought for benefits for those that choose to live a disgusting lifestyle even though she disagrees with that lifestyle.



The highest approval from the least populated state. That's hilarious. However, I'm sure she seems perfect to someone with your IQ.
What the fuck does population have to do with anything? Her constituents are happy. She's doing her job and doing it well.
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BobbyinTN wrote:The highest approval from the least populated state. That's hilarious. However, I'm sure she seems perfect to someone with your IQ.
What the fuck does population have to do with anything? Her constituents are happy. She's doing her job and doing it well.


He's not right about the population anyway.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:21 am

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strangegrey wrote:http://www.palinaspresident.com



The baby names on the wall are fucking hilarious!


John from Boston


...and they keep adding more things daily.
Since last night's debate, they've added a "Joe's Plumber Van" outside her window.
Click on the right corner of her desk.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:22 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
strangegrey wrote:http://www.palinaspresident.com



The baby names on the wall are fucking hilarious!


John from Boston


...and they keep adding more things daily.
Since last night's debate, they've added a "Joe's Plumber Van" outside her window.
Click on the right corner of her desk.


Her voice isn't as annoying, though. It could be better. :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:23 am

conversationpc wrote:He's not right about the population anyway.


Well he's sort of right, if he said the state with the lowest population density. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Alaska has about 50,000 more people than Vermont. Alaska is also probably 10 times larger than Vermont is!


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:26 am

Rhiannon wrote:Gore is like some tard from Tennessee who kinda went off the deep end with his "I invented the internets"


Al Gore never claimed to invent the internet. You are the victim of a mass media hoax.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:28 am

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conversationpc wrote:He's not right about the population anyway.


Well he's sort of right, if he said the state with the lowest population density. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Alaska has about 50,000 more people than Vermont. Alaska is also probably 10 times larger than Vermont is!


How much of Alaska's land is really fit for being able to live there? Much of Alaska is wilderness and sparsely populated because of the climate so I'm sure that's the major reason.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:30 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:Gore is like some tard from Tennessee who kinda went off the deep end with his "I invented the internets"


Al Gore never claimed to invent the internet. You are the victim of a mass media hoax.


It's still funny. And he's said dumber things than that, I'm sure.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:34 am

Who Won the Debate?
by Mike Krumboltz
October 16, 2008 06:24:52 AM

The experts said this was John McCain's last best chance to turn the tide. The election has been going Barack Obama's way, and his republican rival needed a big win in the third and final debate. Did Sen. McCain get it? The polls say one thing, but do the pundits agree?

The Polls
According to a national poll that CNN conducted after the debate, 58% of people felt Barack Obama won the debate, while 31% felt that John McCain performed better. The poll also indicates that the majority of people polled felt Obama would do a better job on the economy, health care, and taxes. Additionally, those polled felt Obama was more likable and the stronger leader.

While CNN's poll suggests an Obama landslide, the folks at Politico have different results. According to an "exclusive survey" of undecided voters, 49% of folks felt Sen. Obama won, while 46% believed Sen. McCain could claim victory. Politico notes that the 3-point difference is within the poll's margin of error.

CBS News conducted its own poll of uncommitted voters and found that Barack Obama won the third debate by a wide margin: 53% believed that Sen. Obama was stronger while 22% sided with Sen. McCain. A full 25% thought it was too close to call. It wasn't all bad news for McCain, though. According to the poll, more uncommitted voters trust the Arizona senator to handle a crisis.

The Pundits
ABC analyst (and former Bill Clinton aide) George Stephanopoulos wrote that this was McCain's best effort, but that Obama was still the victor. Stephanopoulous credited Obama's ability to stay cool and not grow exasperated during his opponent's attacks.

Fox News asked a collection of in-house experts who won the debate, and the opinions were...well...fair and balanced. Some felt that McCain was feisty (in a good way) and proved that he is ready for a fight. Others believed that McCain didn't score the huge hit he needed to stop Obama's momentum.

Time's Mark Halperin graded both candidates on style, substance, offense, and defense. The columnist felt Obama did well (he earned a "B"), but that McCain bested him in all areas. The Maverick scored an A-.
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