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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:59 am

Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:04 am

Just watch the damned video. It speaks for itself.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:09 am

Saint John wrote:Let's see if ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann will make a correction.
Don't hold your breath.


Can't speak for the other news outlets, but Olbermann just made the correction.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:10 am

Tito wrote:Not that I care but from Drudge:

GALLUP SHOCK: 49 OBAMA, 47 MCCAIN WITH LIKELY VOTERS


Um...sorry, wrong again.

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* McCain (R) 42.7% 164 electoral votes
* Obama (D) 49.5% 344 electoral votes
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:10 am

biden thinks *j-o-b-s* is a 3 letter word. hehehee. }:C)

obama thought (at one time... maybe still does... ha) there were 57 states.

palin isn't the only one having brain farts. }:C)

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Enigma869 wrote:The only flaw in your argument is that McCain selected a dope, with a box of rocks in her head, as his running mate! I think many people in this election will be voting against Puppet Palin and not against John McCain!


Honestly... could she be any worse than VPs before her... Quayle, Gore, Cheney... they're all blockheads too if you ask me.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:12 am

Fact Finder wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:Just watch the damned video. It speaks for itself.


I did.

Your turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4


What's your point? The guy is probably a plant, and is full of shit anyway - he had no intention of buying that company.

The point is, most plumbers don't make that much money.

This does NOT compare, sorry. No way, never in a million years. Wrong, wrong, wrong again, Lie Finder.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:13 am

treetopovskaya wrote:biden thinks *j-o-b-s* is a 3 letter word. hehehee. }:C)

obama thought (at one time... maybe still does... ha) there were 57 states.

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Not the same thing at all. Obama meant he had criscrossed into 57 states (i.e. seven of them twice).

Obama's toenail clippings have more intellect than Palin. She is a dolt.

Whitman, on the other hand, is brilliant. She would have given McCain the Presidency.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:14 am

so full of hate. sad.

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Fact Finder wrote:Well lets see...right this minute Sarah is speaking to 15,000 in Bangor,Maine. Some 20,000 saw HER in Penn. Close to 30,000 saw HER in Va at the race track. On the other hand Biden WITH Bill and Hill drew 3,000 the other day. Hmmmm.....

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Listen Republican Ass Kisser...I could give a fuck how many people Puppet Palin draws. She drew 12 people at Salem High School in New Hampshire yesterday, and 11 of them were custodians, washing the floor :shock: I don't care if Palin fills a 100,000 person arena. It doesn't change the fact that she's a fucking moron, who needs to get back to Alaska to kill some animals, before hunting season ends!


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Postby Don » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:14 am

treetopovskaya wrote:biden thinks *j-o-b-s* is a 3 letter word. hehehee. }:C)

obama thought (at one time... maybe still does... ha) there were 57 states.

palin isn't the only one having brain farts. }:C)

Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:The only flaw in your argument is that McCain selected a dope, with a box of rocks in her head, as his running mate! I think many people in this election will be voting against Puppet Palin and not against John McCain!


Honestly... could she be any worse than VPs before her... Quayle, Gore, Cheney... they're all blockheads too if you ask me.


Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.
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Postby Don » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:17 am

treetopovskaya wrote:so full of hate. sad.

Enigma869 wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Well lets see...right this minute Sarah is speaking to 15,000 in Bangor,Maine. Some 20,000 saw HER in Penn. Close to 30,000 saw HER in Va at the race track. On the other hand Biden WITH Bill and Hill drew 3,000 the other day. Hmmmm.....

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Listen Republican Ass Kisser...I could give a fuck how many people Puppet Palin draws. She drew 12 people at Salem High School in New Hampshire yesterday, and 11 of them were custodians, washing the floor :shock: I don't care if Palin fills a 100,000 person arena. It doesn't change the fact that she's a fucking moron, who needs to get back to Alaska to kill some animals, before hunting season ends!


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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:18 am

7 Wishes wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:biden thinks *j-o-b-s* is a 3 letter word. hehehee. }:C)

obama thought (at one time... maybe still does... ha) there were 57 states.



Not the same thing at all. Obama meant he had criscrossed into 57 states (i.e. seven of them twice).

Dude, feel free to be stupid enough to actually believe this. But don't expect anybody else to. You've got to be kidding me. :roll: You're bending over backwards to excuse his stupid comment is.....uh, nevermind you're hopeless. :roll:
7 Wishes wrote:Obama's toenail clippings have more intellect than Palin. She is a dolt.

She hasn't said anything half as stupid as Obama or Biden.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:18 am

Negating capitalism and calling a good American with no blemishes on his record a terrorist, and subsequently calling for his assassination, are in different moral hemispheres.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:21 am

Gunbot wrote:Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.

Why because she's a Christian? I feel sorry for you bigot athiests.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:22 am

RedWingFan wrote:

She hasn't said anything half as stupid as Obama or Biden.[/quote]

This is the most ludicrous claim you've ever made.

In her two months in the limelight, she has said more stupid things than Biden and Obama have, combined, in their careers.

Pandering to lowest-common-denominator racists at political rallies with outright lies is equivalent to inciting a riot.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:22 am

RedWingFan wrote:She hasn't said anything half as stupid as Obama or Biden.


Not being able to name ONE single news periodical is an all time low for American politics.
Palin is in a backwater league all her own.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:25 am

which brings up a point...

i thought clinton was the first black prez? }:C)

no one is naive john from b town... we all know too painfully well that racism does indeed exist... but to imply that ALL reps must be racist or even saying the majority must be is just wrong. remember the whole arnel thing? people were thinking all us here were racist (in some degree) because of a few mean comments? was that fair? tho some comments were racist... i would never call someone out & put that label on them. some peeps just speak without thinking i guess. anyway... those idiots (at the mccain rallies) that yelled out such hateful things in no way whatsoever now or will ever speak for me.

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Enigma869 wrote:you are VERY naive if you think that there won't be a percentage of people who don't vote for him, because the color of his skin!
As are you if you think the 90+ percent he received over Hillary during the primary wasn't because the color of his skin. Especially after all that the Clinton's did for blacks.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:29 am

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RedWingFan wrote:She hasn't said anything half as stupid as Obama or Biden.


Not being able to name ONE single news periodical is an all time low for American politics.
Palin is in a backwater league all her own.

There's a difference between not being able to and unwilling to. She explained that she was torn whether to answer the questions or divert the conversation to push the campaign's agenda. Now would either you or 7 Wishes like to dig for some dumb Palin quotes while I pull out my Obama/Biden 1/2 hour comedy hour?
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:31 am

7 Wishes wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:She hasn't said anything half as stupid as Obama or Biden.


This is the most ludicrous claim you've ever made.

In her two months in the limelight, she has said more stupid things than Biden and Obama have, combined, in their careers.

Pandering to lowest-common-denominator racists at political rallies with outright lies is equivalent to inciting a riot.


Just like I told TNC. Go ahead and pull out some stupid Palin quotes and I'll start reply with my Obama/Biden 1/2 hour comedy hour and prove you wrong AGAIN!!!!!
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Postby Don » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:32 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.

Why because she's a Christian? I feel sorry for you bigot athiests.


Exactly, she's a christian who feels that are troops in Iraq are doing the Lord's work. If the WMD'S were moved to Syria, how come we're not over there? They have done more covert damage to us than Iraq ever has. Did God leave that part out when him and George were having their brain storming session about invading Iraq?
You don't need to feel sorry for us. As you Christians always point out, we'll get our just deserts. After all, God is not only just but very petty and vindictive isn't he?
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:38 am

Gunbot wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.

Why because she's a Christian? I feel sorry for you bigot athiests.


Exactly, she's a christian who feels that are troops in Iraq are doing the Lord's work.

Obama's a Christian. It's only okay to be a Christian if your church espouses the "USofKKKA", "chickens coming home to roost" garbage?
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Postby Uno_up » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:39 am

Enigma869 wrote:Listen asshole...don't question my dedication as a sports fan. I picked the Rays to win, because they are simply the better team, period, end of story. I don't predict victory for my hometown team, just because of geography. I have eyes, and have an opinion as to who should win what. It doesn't mean it always works out that way. I thought the Patriots would beat the Giants in the Super Bowl, and still believe the Patriots had the better team. Sometimes in sports, the better team doesn't always win. In this case, it is working out for the Rays. I like their team a lot. They have a solid field manager and a good young team. Because Philadelphia is one of the great sports cities in America and has MUCH better fans, I'll be pulling for the Phillies in the World Series, but wouldn't be shocked if the Devil Dogs pulled it off! Also, Philadelphia hasn't won a single championship since I believe 1983, so they are WAY overdue!

For the love of God, don't get your twat in a twist.
You and I have differing philosphies on our levels of team devotion...I'll leave it at that.

Enigma869 wrote:I'll ask you again...what wasn't negative about this comment?
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Nothing was negative.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:40 am

RedWingFan wrote:There's a difference between not being able to and unwilling to. She explained that she was torn whether to answer the questions or divert the conversation to push the campaign's agenda. Now would either you or 7 Wishes like to dig for some dumb Palin quotes while I pull out my Obama/Biden 1/2 hour comedy hour?


Bullshit, bullshit, BULLSHIT!

She could have damned well answered the question with ONE WORD...ONE EXAMPLE...

and THEN "pushed the campaign's agenda".

She is a MORON. Pure and simple.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:44 am

RedWingFan wrote:There's a difference between not being able to and unwilling to. She explained that she was torn whether to answer the questions or divert the conversation to push the campaign's agenda.


That might've been her convenient post-facto spin fed to Sean Hannity, but when the question was asked in real time by Couric (3 times, no less!) Palin froze.
Like her non-answer answer about Supreme Court history, there was nothing pre-meditated about it.
Elections shouldn't be made or broken by trivial shit, but c'mon, really?
Not even one newspaper?
Or website?
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Postby Don » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:48 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.

Why because she's a Christian? I feel sorry for you bigot athiests.


Exactly, she's a christian who feels that are troops in Iraq are doing the Lord's work.

Obama's a Christian. It's only okay to be a Christian if your church espouses the "USofKKKA", "chickens coming home to roost" garbage?


I don't have anything against Christians but I think Palin's brand of Christianity is too extreme. I don't want her in the White House influencing anyone. If I'm a bigot, so be it.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:51 am

7 Wishes wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:There's a difference between not being able to and unwilling to. She explained that she was torn whether to answer the questions or divert the conversation to push the campaign's agenda. Now would either you or 7 Wishes like to dig for some dumb Palin quotes while I pull out my Obama/Biden 1/2 hour comedy hour?


Bullshit, bullshit, BULLSHIT!

She could have damned well answered the question with ONE WORD...ONE EXAMPLE...

and THEN "pushed the campaign's agenda".

She is a MORON. Pure and simple.


My gracious offer still stands. You can even leave you "caps lock" on for effect. :lol:
RedWingFan wrote:Go ahead and pull out some stupid Palin quotes and I'll start reply with my Obama/Biden 1/2 hour comedy hour and prove you wrong AGAIN!!!!!
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:52 am

Fact Finder, if Angelina Jolie sat on your face, but right before she did, Sean Hannity told you it was actually Rosie O'Donnell's ass, would your gag reflex kick in before she did the deed? A pile of dog crap is a pile of dog crap.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:53 am

Gunbot wrote:
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Gunbot wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Palin is the Devil's daughter so it all evens out.

Why because she's a Christian? I feel sorry for you bigot athiests.


Exactly, she's a christian who feels that are troops in Iraq are doing the Lord's work.

Obama's a Christian. It's only okay to be a Christian if your church espouses the "USofKKKA", "chickens coming home to roost" garbage?


I don't have anything against Christians but I think Palin's brand of Christianity is too extreme. I don't want her in the White House influencing anyone. If I'm a bigot, so be it.

You are. Congratulations. Whatever you do, don't read any of the founders speaches or you may have to blow your brains out because of the disgusting principles this country was founded on. :D
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:55 am

7 Wishes wrote:Fact Finder, if Angelina Jolie sat on your face, but right before she did, Sean Hannity told you it was actually Rosie O'Donnell's ass, would your gag reflex kick in before she did the deed? A pile of dog crap is a pile of dog crap.

What's fact finder have to do with any of this? My offer still stands, go ahead and put up Palin's first stupid quote. :wink:

7 Wishes wrote:This is the most ludicrous claim you've ever made.

In her two months in the limelight, she has said more stupid things than Biden and Obama have, combined, in their careers.

You can back up this comment and expose my claim ludicrous.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:56 am

1. "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" --Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008.

2. "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008.

3. "Well, let's see. There's -- of course -- in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008.

4. "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008.

5. "They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008

6. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending soldiers out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." –Sarah Pailn, on the Iraq war, speaking to students at the Wasilla Assembly of God, June 2008.

7. "I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008.

8. "That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." --Sarah Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008.

9. "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." –Sarah Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

10. "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council.

"I like being here because it seems like here and in our last rally too -- other parts around this great Northwest -- here in New Hampshire you just get it." --Sarah Palin, Laconia, New Hampshire, Oct. 15, 2008.

"I would hope at least that those protesters have the courage and the honor of thanking our veterans for giving them the right to protest!" --Sarah Palin, confusing supporters at a campaign rally who had shouted "We can't hear you!" and "Louder!", Richmond, Va., Oct. 13, 2008.

"I'm very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that." --Sarah Palin, after an Alaska legislative report found she had broken the state's ethics law and abused her power in the Troopergate scandal, conference call with Alaska reporters, Oct. 12, 2008.

"They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008.

"There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women." --Sarah Palin, misquoting former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, who said women should "help" other women," Carson, Caliif., Oct. 4, 2008.

"I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also." --Sarah Palin, on not answering the questions in the vice presidential debate, St. Louis, Missouri, Oct. 2, 2008.

Katie Couric: "What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?"
Sarah Palin: "Well, let's see. There's --of course --in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings, there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are -- those issues, again, like Roe v Wade where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know -- going through the history of America, there would be others but--"
Couric: "Can you think of any?"
Palin: "Well, I could think of -- of any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a Vice President, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today." --unable to name any Supreme Court decisions other than Roe v. Wade, CBS News interview, Oct. 1, 2008.

Katie Couric: "And when it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious: what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?"
Sarah Palin: "I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media."
Couric: "But, like, what ones specifically? I'm curious."
Palin: "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years."
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: "I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news too." --CBS News interview, Oct. 1, 2008.

"I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008.

"Well, it certainly does because our -- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia ... We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric how Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008.

"That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." --Sarah Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008.

"I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council.

"I watched with the volume all the way down. I thought it was hilarious. I thought she was spot on. ... It was hilarious. Again, didn't hear a word she said, but the visual, spot on." --Sarah Palin, on Tina Fey's "SNL" skit interview on FOX News's "Hannity & Colmes," Sept. 17, 2008.
But around town, it was well known...when they got home at night
Their fat and psychopathic wives
Would thrash them within inches of their lives!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:58 am

oh... there's a good source. isn't msnbc lib media? ick. don't trust any media... that's my motto (take it all with a grain of salt).

go ask jeffy if he hears everything yelled during a gig... doubtful. we were trying to get his attention a few times when he was standing RIGHT THERE... he didn't hear us... or maybe he did. hahahaa! oh snap! }:C)

dean... go to a rally then talk to us.

i did & saw/heard nothing like what is being shown on tv... not saying it's not happening but i thinks it's just a handful of idiots. racism is spread all over. sad. it is sad.


Lula wrote:It was on MSNBC over and over all day long.

My God, do I have to search fucking Youtube for it? I don't sit in a cubicle all day and do nothing like you hard working cons.
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