The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[RossValoryRocks]

Eh...it goes back a ways. I never took it personally.

I'm wrong about a lot of stuff, I'm sure...as are you guys.

But history will be the judge of that...the abundance of information available on the internet makes it relatively easy to find support for any particular theory to which you may or may not subscribe.

This is the ONLY 100% factual statement you have ever made!

[7 Wishes]

Don't forget the thread where I predicted George Michael would come out (in?) of the (water) closet someday. NOBODY saw THAT coming.

[Voyager]

McCain/Palin has become a complete joke on every television network. What does that tell you? It's over with.

[RossValoryRocks]

Don't forget the thread where I predicted George Michael would come out (in?) of the (water) closet someday. NOBODY saw THAT coming.

Ok...you got me there!

[Rick]

Don't forget the thread where I predicted George Michael would come out (in?) of the (water) closet someday. NOBODY saw THAT coming.

The Sports Machine guy?

[Lula]

Hey there children-

Yes, this is Dean, and yes Andrew, I hijacked her acct for ONE post and one only.

" Bring it Home"

Barack Obama is a good man, a smart man, and a very astute and political man. I don't see the impending victory as a win for me, or for Lula, or for Jana or 7 wishes. I see it as a win and victory for all of America and more importantly, the world. yes the world. Contrary to what others here have commented on, the world does indeed matter. The United States is a major player if not THE player in global politics, but it does have to dance with partners.

So many points to address and so many good people to talk to.

Here goes.

Wendy, ala Treetop. This woman has been nothing but gracious and golden to Lula, Wyatt Trevor and myself. Despite our differences in politics, and the fact Vancouver beat her Duckies last night, we love Wendy. A truly wholesome person, and this applies to your husband as well!

Stuart. Great guy, very well educated, wrong on almost everything. Hey buddy, was looking back in time tonight, and came across some early old school posts..you have email. I would go to war with this guy anytime, anywhere, anyhow.

I need to share a quick story with you all. I vividly recall arriving in Bakersfield, CA via bus, on my way to see my college attending kids in northern California. I was transferring to a train and remember talking to Stu about the election. At the time, McCain had the lead, and Bible Barbie had just been nominated for VP, and she brought the buzz, and a lot of hard ons too! me included!, thus preventing any Obama momentum coming out of the Denver rock star like convention. Stu was running his mouth, as I would have been too, about a Mac victory. I told Stuey, "ok dude, 3 dollars per electoral college vote difference." He agreed, and in two weeks, I was up 500+ dollars. I quickly wiped that wager clean as I am not about taking money from a good person like Stuart. He can buy shots all night if he wants, but to ask him for 3 dollars per ev? Stu cannot afford 630 bucks can he? Yes, I have BO taking ND, MT and Georgia. Don't freak out if Obama gets Louisiana either.

7 Wishes. Go apply for a job at EPA. They could use you and you could help them. You have been correct the entire time regarding Global Warming. Don't let the cut and paste Cons riddle you with clutter.

TNC- This guy is flat out amazing. he even dislikes me for my Dem roots and pizzaz, but NO ONE can disagree with this guys intellect. He is the only person on this board I want no part of.

Jana- I called BJG a "whore." It was me, but you showed true class in defending her. I shouldn't have pulled that shit. -1 for me.

Raiderfan/RedWingFan- I love your passion and disagree with your politics, but hey, that's ok, as we are all on the same team. Godspeed to your son. Prayers to you and your family, Scott.

Fact Finder- Fuck off cocksucker! haha, LOL j/k. Again, a concerned, involved citizen who disagrees with me, but I am unashamed to say you are a smart guy, or girl. Come to think of it, what the Hell are you? You never post a pic, or laugh at the sexist jokes.?

Dave PC- This guy, infuriates me to no end. Why? Because he makes articulte posts and is a helluve nice guy. Go fuck yourself:)

Now, my address to you all-----

Folks, put down the remote. Stop thinking ACORN is siphoning off votes from Mac, and putting fakes into BO's pile. Turn off Matthews. Blitzer, and Hume. Just watch America show the world(hopefully), what freedom is all about. Tuesday will usher into power a new leader. NO MATTER who it is, I will fully support him and cheer him on. That's what we do here in the USA. I have NO doubt FF, RWF or Stu would root against Barack Obama, and Lula, 7, and the Cause would root against Mac. What we are all rooting for is for America to reclaim it's place on the world's stage as the headliner, the fucking show closer. The USA is not some Euro band opening for a Swede act, ok? One thing I have seen here, is BOTH sides cannot wait for these retarded fuckholes to leave office. Stu is on record as saying such. DavePC, RWF and FF aren't hardened Shrub backers. If Obama is a horrible president, I will be the first to hack back into Lula's acct and state on record, he sucks big black horse cock. However, like I did for Bush 43, I gave him a chance. I ask you, who's candidate may lose, and lose big Tuesday, that you back the new leader, regardless of party affiliation. I can tell you, that at least Lula and I sure as Hell won't rub it into your faces shall BO win. Been on the other side of that, and to tell you truth, she is still worried about the outcome. Anyway, I hope you get what I am saying here. Unity. Unity. Unity.

My dream is a United States that is truly United. And oh yeah, Bruce Springsteen is in the Cabinet, somehow.


PPS- How many of you fuckers aren't going to comment either good or bad about me, when Bruce plays the Super Bowl in Tampa on the biggest stage in TV? hahaha

Love all you guys and girls.

Be good.

[Rick]

Excellent post Dean.

Don't ban Lula Andrew, I'm sure she's breaking shit over his head right now.

[Lula]

McCain was great in SNL. Laughed at himself a lot and I find that healthy.

It did seem tho, as he knows what's about to happen. Not being smartassed and biased, but did anyone else seem to think he looked defeated and frankly well, beaten? I wish him well. Good man through and through.

[treetopovskaya]

he looked tired cuz he was up past his bedtime. }:CP

McCain was great in SNL. Laughed at himself a lot and I find that healthy.

It did seem tho, as he knows what's about to happen. Not being smartassed and biased, but did anyone else seem to think he looked defeated and frankly well, beaten? I wish him well. Good man through and through.

[treetopovskaya]

especially for that canucks beating the ducks comment! }:C|

(we got free fries tho... WOOHOO!)

}:C)

Excellent post Dean.

Don't ban Lula Andrew, I'm sure she's breaking shit over his head right now.

[Rick]

he looked tired cuz he was up past his bedtime. }:CP

McCain was great in SNL. Laughed at himself a lot and I find that healthy.

It did seem tho, as he knows what's about to happen. Not being smartassed and biased, but did anyone else seem to think he looked defeated and frankly well, beaten? I wish him well. Good man through and through.

Certainly, which at his age should be around 7:30.

[Andrew]

By the way, what lofty trade hast thou gainfully applied thyself to so that we may pontificate upon how great and mighty thou art?

I fuck your wife. I get paid by the pound.

One more comment like that and it will be your last.

[conversationpc]

TNC- This guy is flat out amazing. he even dislikes me for my Dem roots and pizzaz, but NO ONE can disagree with this guys intellect. He is the only person on this board I want no part of.

I'm not denying that the guy is smart. However, don't give him too much credit. He's not as smart as he thinks he is. I am not the best debater in the world and even I can hold my own against him.

Dave PC- This guy, infuriates me to no end. Why? Because he makes articulte posts and is a helluve nice guy. Go fuck yourself:)

Love ya dude!

[Enigma869]

The Sports Machine guy?

Nope...it wasn't me


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

Certainly, which at his age should be around 7:30.

Funny you mention this. I've been watching CNN in the evenings (think Anderson Cooper at 10pm), and they keep going out of their way to say they want to be fair to both candidates and show "Live campaign events", and they can only ever show Obama live events, because at that time of night, the Republicans never have any live events. A couple of their politicals pundits made the point that Americans may infer from no events happening after 8 in the evening that McCain is simply too tired, and off to sleep. While I don't begrudge the guy getting his sleep, it probably makes some people question (fair or not) his suitability to be the President. For what it's worth, I have ZERO idea what CNN's political leanings are, but they seem to be the only station I watch that seems to give both sides equal say and time. Also, when they bring on the politicals hacks, they always have both sides represented. I also love the fact that they challenge every statement both fo these dopes make, with their "fact checks".


John from Boston

[Uno_up]

Anyone else concerned we're being sold a bunch of horse shit from Obama? First it was $250K. Then there was talk it was $200K. Then Biden mentions it's $150K (simple mistake or slip of the tongue) and now I've heard Bill Richardson (yes, not the best source) talking about it being $120K. Anyone else starting to think we're facing the same tax and spend philosophy that's always been preached? Those making $120 or $150+ should start worrying now too.

[Arkansas]

Anyone else concerned we're being sold a bunch of horse shit from Obama? First it was $250K. Then there was talk it was $200K. Then Biden mentions it's $150K (simple mistake or slip of the tongue) and now I've heard Bill Richardson (yes, not the best source) talking about it being $120K. Anyone else starting to think we're facing the same tax and spend philosophy that's always been preached? Those making $120 or $150+ should start worrying now too.

Yep, I agree. And I think it will continue to dwindle 'til everyone is paying more taxes one way or another. That alone is why I won't vote for him.

But ya know, even if Obama wins...at the slightest hint of any failure as President, the blame will get put on Bush. The excuses of how badly Bush screwed things up, or how deep a hole he dug, or it'll take a lot longer than four years to turn this around, will start flying. I can hear the pissin, moanin, & back-peddlin already.


later~

[Skylorde]

Again, where HAVE you bee the past eight years?

If Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, and Katz all told you the sky was pink, would you believe them? Probably. If they all took a shit on a plate and passed it to you, and told you it was caviar, would you eat it? Almost certainly.

Try to think for YOURSELF for a change...you are a very intelligent woman.

7, I'll try to break this to you gently. Contrary to what Daily Kos tells you, you'll be hard pressed to prove Beck has been a staunch supporter of Bush, ESPECIALLY on issues like spending.

How's that caviar shit tasting?

[Saint John]

Here is a woman McCain probably wouldn't want support from. What a fucking douche this bitch is! She's lucky I don't live in Michigan, because if I did, I'd throw about 100 dozen of eggs at her house and car! Hopefully, nobody here will actually defend this douche's behavior!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkBE0lWeYU


John from Boston

I support her right to give away her candy to whom she wants to 100%. Dems can have the choice to scrape human life out of a uterus, but this lady can't choose whom she gives candy away to? Besides, why give Obama supporters handouts...they'll have plenty when he's elected. It'll be Halloween all year for a certain number of those that don't do a fucking thing.

[Enigma869]

I support her right to give away her candy to whom she wants to 100%. Dems can have the choice to scrape human life out of a uterus, but this lady can't choose whom she gives candy away to? Besides, why give Obama supporters handouts...they'll have plenty when he's elected. It'll be Halloween all year for a certain number of those that don't do a fucking thing.

I've lost all respect for you, dude! This woman is a fucking scumbag, for dragging 4 year old children into a political election! This isn't about politics. It's about children going out to have some fun for an evening, without having to deal with adult issues! This isn't even about this woman's right to give candy out to whomever she wants to give candy to. It's about her not having enough common fucking sense not to involve children in politics! Regardless of which one of these dopes gets elected, the American people aren't going to be seeing prosperous times, any time soon!


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

But ya know, even if Obama wins...at the slightest hint of any failure as President, the blame will get put on Bush.

Actually, I don't think it really matters which guy gets elected. Bush is going to get a big share of the blame, and should!

The excuses of how badly Bush screwed things up, or how deep a hole he dug, or it'll take a lot longer than four years to turn this around, will start flying.

Are you seriously suggesting that Bush hasn't "screwed things up"? If you really believe that, you should probably get your eyes and head examined! Hell, I think even W's most ardent supporters will at least admit that the guy has "screwed things up", at this point! I realize that W. is your pal, but it doesn't change the fact that he has left a complete fucking disaster for the next guy coming into office. That disaster isn't going to be any different for McCain than it will be for Obama. As for it taking longer than 4 years, I suspect it probably will take either candidate longer than 4 years, considering it took W. 8 years to run our country into the ground!


John from Boston

[Saint John]

I've lost all respect for you, dude!

Darn.

This woman is a fucking scumbag, for dragging 4 year old children into a political election!

Those people came to her house. She didn't drag anyone anywhere. And the comma you used wasn't necessary.

This isn't about politics. It's about children going out to have some fun for an evening, without having to deal with adult issues!

Agreed. I highly doubt those kids even remembered her by the time they were at the next house. The comma wasn't needed in that sentence either.

This isn't even about this woman's right to give candy out to whomever she wants to give candy to. It's about her not having enough common fucking sense not to involve children in politics!

When you knock on the door of a stranger there are certain risks involved. This lady simply used a bit of poor judgment due to her frustration that an anti-white, terrorist coddler is going to be elected. I find her less at fault for poor judgment than the dopes that vote for Obama. This is America. We're allowed to express our opinions.

[treetopovskaya]

in defense of obama... i think both candidates (if elected) will find they have to raise taxes. they might not want to & say that they won't but it will happen i feel. just a feeling. i don't hate on obama... i think he's a good person... maybe a little crazy (i could be wrong tho... just a feeling in my gut) if i go by some of the things he has said. for myself i just wouldn't feel safe with someone who has shown he doesn't have very good judgment... be it the people he associated himself with & the drug use. would not hold that against him... but this guy will be running our country. if elected i will support obama... and keep him & his family in my prayers... and hope he always does what's right for the people. i am hoping that all the feelings in my gut are false & if elected obama will be one of our greatest presidents. may god bless him & his family either way. all the hatred we've seen... let's hope that ONE day it will cease to exist.

[Arkansas]

But ya know, even if Obama wins...at the slightest hint of any failure as President, the blame will get put on Bush.

Actually, I don't think it really matters which guy gets elected. Bush is going to get a big share of the blame, and should!

The excuses of how badly Bush screwed things up, or how deep a hole he dug, or it'll take a lot longer than four years to turn this around, will start flying.

Are you seriously suggesting that Bush hasn't "screwed things up"? If you really believe that, you should probably get your eyes and head examined! Hell, I think even W's most ardent supporters will at least admit that the guy has "screwed things up", at this point! I realize that W. is your pal, but it doesn't change the fact that he has left a complete fucking disaster for the next guy coming into office. That disaster isn't going to be any different for McCain than it will be for Obama. As for it taking longer than 4 years, I suspect it probably will take either candidate longer than 4 years, considering it took W. 8 years to run our country into the ground!


John from Boston

Oh no. Things are bad right now. No doubt. I just absolutely hate politicians that say exactly what they will do without question, knowing full well they'll probably do very little. Is Obama so stupid to think that he'll actually get something done? No, he's a smart man. He just wants the office, and the Dems want the power. He knows he'll fail, and he knows he'll have George Bush to blame, thus absolving him of any responsibilty. Typical lib.

Btw, a predictable retort would be that "Doesn't McCain fit here too?" And yes, he does to some extent. But he's a tough guy who knows how to win a fight. He's a much stronger man and qualified candidate. I believe he WILL get things done.


later~

[Skylorde]

It's about her not having enough common fucking sense not to involve children in politics!

John from Boston

You mean like this?
http://kids.barackobama.com

Or like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

[treetopovskaya]

that lady is just rotten to the core. being mean to the little ones... no excuses. boo!

i wish kids trick or treated here where we live. not one kid ever comes to our door. this year we even put up pumpkin lights & other decorations... so did some of our neighbors. we were out for the night so we left a pumpkin filled with candy... all of it was still there when we returned home. oh darn right? };C)

i wanna move to a town where trick or treats still exist!!

I support her right to give away her candy to whom she wants to 100%. Dems can have the choice to scrape human life out of a uterus, but this lady can't choose whom she gives candy away to? Besides, why give Obama supporters handouts...they'll have plenty when he's elected. It'll be Halloween all year for a certain number of those that don't do a fucking thing.

I've lost all respect for you, dude! This woman is a fucking scumbag, for dragging 4 year old children into a political election! This isn't about politics. It's about children going out to have some fun for an evening, without having to deal with adult issues! This isn't even about this woman's right to give candy out to whomever she wants to give candy to. It's about her not having enough common fucking sense not to involve children in politics! Regardless of which one of these dopes gets elected, the American people aren't going to be seeing prosperous times, any time soon!


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

You mean like this?
http://kids.barackobama.com

Or like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

Sorry dude...you're not getting me to defend that. It's wrong to involve children with politics on EITHER side. I'm not sure how saying "Hey, the other side does it too" justifies some **** of a woman denying children candy on Halloween! As I've consistently said here, I'm not a fan of either side, and believe most people who belong to a poltiical party need their head examined!


John from Boston

[strangegrey]

Btw, a predictable retort would be that "Doesn't McCain fit here too?" And yes, he does to some extent. But he's a tough guy who knows how to win a fight. He's a much stronger man and qualified candidate. I believe he WILL get things done.

Like McCain-feingold, McCain-Kennedy?? No thank you. While I am not pumping for eithe candidate...I want someone up there who's going to act like his party and not confuse the electorate any more...

[treetopovskaya]

if she was trying to get more people to vote for mccain that prolly didn't do it.

3 words...

whack job!

(hehe)

You mean like this?
http://kids.barackobama.com

Or like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

Sorry dude...you're not getting me to defend that. It's wrong to involve children with politics on EITHER side. I'm not sure how saying "Hey, the other side does it too" justifies some **** of a woman denying children candy on Halloween! As I've consistently said here, I'm not a fan of either side, and believe most people who belong to a poltiical party need their head examined!


John from Boston

[Skylorde]

Sorry dude...you're not getting me to defend that. It's wrong to involve children with politics on EITHER side. I'm not sure how saying "Hey, the other side does it too" justifies some **** of a woman denying children candy on Halloween! As I've consistently said here, I'm not a fan of either side, and believe most people who belong to a poltiical party need their head examined!

John from Boston

John, I wasn't implying you were setting a double standard. I agree this woman should have set her political opinions aside for the benefit of the kids to have a fun time.

In my opinion, the right & left are guilty of indoctrination of youth to some extent. The left has been particularly visible this election with things like the YouTube video of kids singing praises to Obama.....creepily Hitleresque.

Our kids are influenced politically by their parents simply by the mere fact they spend a great deal of time around us. I've tried very hard to let my 16 year old form his own opinions, in spite of the fact he's always asking me what mine are.

I think he gets it though. The other day he said "Societies and Governments ultimately implode under their own weight anyway, why stress about what you can't control?"

I think he gets it now.