God Bless President Obama...

[treetopovskaya]

a poop sandwich?

sorry.

hehehee. }:C)

[Rockindeano]

He didn't steal an election Dean and you KNOW IT...every conceivable type of count was tried, including the one Al Gore want to use, by independent organizations and they showed Bush legitimately won.

As for failed conservatism, Bush was FAR FAR FAR from a conservative. The people calling themselves conservatives, may have fail at BEING conservative, but that isn't a fault of the philosophy, it is a failure of the people purporting to be conservative.

And yes you spouted off (and still do) with a ton of hatred...when you don't even know what is really lies and what isn't. None of us do. We are only allowed to see a certain amount because the rest is classified and only the upper levels of our government really know and even then not all of them.

I would suggest to you that if you want your side to be treated with respect that you at least shut up about Bush for 5 minutes.

I will give the President the benefit of the doubt for now, and UNLIKE you or other liberals I will never spew the rancid, vile, and hateful things about the President that you did about President Bush NO MATTER what President Obama does or doesn't do.

Save your time. I really don't give two shits if all the Cons and republicans like Obama or not. I am elated I am done trying to reason. I am happy, the country is happy, and the world is happy. The problems that face the GOP are their problems, not mine. Bush may not have been a conservative, BUT, Cheney sure as Hell is, Wolfowitz is, Rumsfeld is, Rice is and so was Snow, Paulson and Bernanke. All conservatives. Summation= Defeated! I love it. The GOP fucked themselves and at the same time, saved the peoples party, the Democratic party.

Oh and the lies of Bush? I can't even respond to you, because I have tears in my eyes from laughing at you trying to defend the biggest lying sonofabitch the White House has ever seen. Iraq, Libbby, yellowcake, rendition, torture, Plame, Rove and others....all tied to huge lies.

What president Obama has to decide now is whether or not to prosecute Bush and Cheney for war crimes, ie, torture. I love how a couple jerkoffs who spent 10 years of their lives avoiding the military, are now experts on what exactly is and isn't torture in a military capacity. Obama won't do it, as I am sure he values the honeymoon with the GOP, but like TNC said before, we are a nation of laws or we aren't.

[Rockindeano]

I will give the President the benefit of the doubt for now, and UNLIKE you or other liberals I will never spew the rancid, vile, and hateful things about the President that you did about President Bush NO MATTER what President Obama does or doesn't do.

If Obama lies and corrupts the office, I will be up front and center, burning his ass. Bush deserves all he gets and then some. He embarrassed the USA.

[Ftloperry]

It's going to be a long 4 years......

[Rockindeano]

You have not read this thread then. This has, I believe, been the only thread I've been on today and the first thread since O has been sworn in. I have in no way blasted the POTUS today at all. Not fucking once. My first post on this thread defended him you big doufus.. My second post re-affirmed my first and added a bit more commentary. My third post broached the hipocracy of the Anti Corporate Jet and PETA and Global Warming crowd. You need to re-read this thread. My last post was to RVR and Tito and I stand by what I said re hatred and venom spewing.

Like I said, I have no interest in responding to any of you cons. Game over, you lost, deal with it.

[RossValoryRocks]

He didn't steal an election Dean and you KNOW IT...every conceivable type of count was tried, including the one Al Gore want to use, by independent organizations and they showed Bush legitimately won.

As for failed conservatism, Bush was FAR FAR FAR from a conservative. The people calling themselves conservatives, may have fail at BEING conservative, but that isn't a fault of the philosophy, it is a failure of the people purporting to be conservative.

And yes you spouted off (and still do) with a ton of hatred...when you don't even know what is really lies and what isn't. None of us do. We are only allowed to see a certain amount because the rest is classified and only the upper levels of our government really know and even then not all of them.

I would suggest to you that if you want your side to be treated with respect that you at least shut up about Bush for 5 minutes.

I will give the President the benefit of the doubt for now, and UNLIKE you or other liberals I will never spew the rancid, vile, and hateful things about the President that you did about President Bush NO MATTER what President Obama does or doesn't do.

Save your time. I really don't give two shits if all the Cons and republicans like Obama or not. I am elated I am done trying to reason. I am happy, the country is happy, and the world is happy. The problems that face the GOP are their problems, not mine. Bush may not have been a conservative, BUT, Cheney sure as Hell is, Wolfowitz is, Rumsfeld is, Rice is and so was Snow, Paulson and Bernanke. All conservatives. Summation= Defeated! I love it. The GOP fucked themselves and at the same time, saved the peoples party, the Democratic party.

Oh and the lies of Bush? I can't even respond to you, because I have tears in my eyes from laughing at you trying to defend the biggest lying sonofabitch the White House has ever seen. Iraq, Libbby, yellowcake, rendition, torture, Plame, Rove and others....all tied to huge lies.

What president Obama has to decide now is whether or not to prosecute Bush and Cheney for war crimes, ie, torture. I love how a couple jerkoffs who spent 10 years of their lives avoiding the military, are now experts on what exactly is and isn't torture in a military capacity. Obama won't do it, as I am sure he values the honeymoon with the GOP, but like TNC said before, we are a nation of laws or we aren't.

You know Dean sometimes you make it awfully fucking hard to like you. You are a rude sod who really needs a good assbeating and lesson in humility.

I am not defending Bush you asshole, I am saying you pass judgement without having all the information, and then try to tailor the information you have to suit your vision. You sound remarkably like what you accuse Bush and Cheney of doing.

And actually the President cannot be tried for executive decisions he made a President. Go look it up.

[Rockindeano]

It's going to be a long 4 years......

And it wasn't a long last 8 years?

[Jana]

You and Fact Finder should show the same attitude. Sinking to the level of those whose behavior you dispise doesn't bring them up, it only brings you down.

Dude, let me assure you, I will never sink to level of the people I "dispise" (hint: I don't despise anyone), they are the ones who treated this man like dirt for the last 6 years. May they reap what they have sowed. Now they want to talk all lovey dovey and shit. I ain't buying into their bullshit and I suspect neither are you. Now as of tomorrow, I expect you to get off of that fence lest you get a splinter in your nuts. Pick a fucking side and stick to it. I am an American and I wish Mr. Obama nothing but success for the better of our Country, but the gall of some of these people spewing their "past" hatred has left a taste that 6 shots of Jack will not kill. I am a conservative at heart and I shall fight for my principles here as long as Andrew allows.

And yes, Tito, wishing ill on ANYONE is in bad taste, period. Case closed. Osama Bin Laden and his lunatic friends et al.. excepted.

And a BIG FUCK YOU to you as well.

The hatred, yep, I threw a bunch of it at Bush, was deserved. He stole an election, I hated that. I still supported the man through thick and thin until it just became too much corruption and too much lying. I would say I supported that slimy lying pile of shit for two years. You on the other hand waited at least 2 minutes to blast the new president. Take your failed conservatism and shove it straight up your ass.

Agreed, Deano. I don't get where this is coming from that Democrats didn't support Bush in the beginning. Sure, it was not good the way the election went down with Gore (especially since I'm from Florida ), so was a little messy. But I supported Bush for almost three years, and from all of my Democrat friends or colleagues I never heard bashing until late into his first term. Even those of us that were on the fence or against the war supported our President during that initial period until it became apparent not only that there were no weapons of mass destruction, but also that the handling of the war by him was let's just say less than impressive. So because I was critical of him and desperately wanted him out and not re-elected after four years, sorry, I don't call that not supporting my president. But even with my open dissastifaction with him during his even worse second term, that was a horrible reaction to Bush and Cheney today, and I really felt for Bush when that happened. Total lack of respect for our outgoing president, who I thought handled the transition with Obama these last months with class and graciousness.

[Rockindeano]

Stu, I really don't give a shit who here likes me or not. In fact, I am losing allies by the day, if not the hour. I don't care at all.

I don't need allies like Tito applauding a fallen Senator. I don't need fucks like FF already pissing on a new president. I will fine without anyone who doesn't like me, and trust me, the list is growing.

[stevew2]

This entire Inauguration, which is still going, is inspiring and flat out awesome to watch. For you jerkoffs who are bitter, let me use your own words against you: Get over it.

The most beautiful picture/video I have seen in a long time was Executive 1 flying out of the City.

I like when he was makin his speech and peckerhead had to sit there and listen to it

[sadie65]

Here's to the hope (a much overused word these days) that President Obama has the fortitude and stamina to endure what will surely be a thankless role. The expectations placed upon him are extreme to put it mildly. Reading the various comments stated here there are several that should be lauded, and many more than should be thrown onto the trash heap for the classlessness they exude.

May President Obama manage to survive and do the best he can...and may our country recognize that no one can live up to the extreme expectations placed on our new president.

Peace to all

[fredinator]

Oh and the lies of Bush? I can't even respond to you, because I have tears in my eyes from laughing at you trying to defend the biggest lying sonofabitch the White House has ever seen. Iraq, Libbby, yellowcake, rendition, torture, Plame, Rove and others....all tied to huge lies.

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

[conversationpc]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

[Barb]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

Thank you.

[conversationpc]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

Thank you.

If I remember correctly, the quote was something to the effect of "Get your people out of there".

[AlteredDNA]

This is currently on the official White House website:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional

Katrina
President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur.

President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.

I sure hope this is just "campaign rhetoric" that hasn't been removed yet...

[Lula]

lol come on, "nice job brownie" the feds dropped the ball. the state government was incompetent to say the least. but the funding to shore up the levees should have been provided. let us not forget mama bush pointing out that many in the stadiums had moved up the whole thing is an ugly stain on the country, absolutely pathetic.

[fredinator]

For heaven's sake, that is really doing something, "get out of here!" or "take cover!" He was the President of the United States--he could have done more for those people in that convention center.

Dave, I'm curious what mistakes you think Bush made?

[Michigan Girl]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

Thanks, CPC......we were warned! Our local government
did not act fast enough and even if they had, they were not prepared to evacuate those who
could not evacuate themselves....the elderly, the disabled, the children and the animals.
Jindal, just this past year, proved that it can be done when done correctly!!!
The only complaint I have about Bobby Jindal is that he failed to tell some of those folks that
they were going to be staying in facilities that were set up
to shelter thousands upons thousands of people in an emergency situation. Silly people, thought
they were staying at the Horseshoe!!!

[AlteredDNA]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

Thanks, CPC......we were warned! Our local government
did not act fast enough and even if they had, they were not prepared to evacuate those who
could not evacuate themselves....the elderly, the disabled, the children and the animals.
Jindal, just this past year, proved that it can be done when done correctly!!!
The only complaint I have about Bobby Jindal is that he failed to tell some of those folks that
they were going to be staying in facilities that were set up
to shelter thousands upons thousands of people in an emergency situation. Silly people, thought
they were staying at the Horseshoe!!!

+1 on this as well...

As to the levees, the money was allocated, but re-routed at the State level. THAT had been going on for YEARS...

[conversationpc]

For heaven's sake, that is really doing something, "get out of here!" or "take cover!" He was the President of the United States--he could have done more for those people in that convention center.

Dave, I'm curious what mistakes you think Bush made?

If you rely on the government to do something for you, you are placing your trust in the wrong entity. Period.

What mistakes do I think Bush made? How long have you been a member of this forum?

[fredinator]

That isn't really an answer.

[Lula]

This is currently on the official White House website:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional

Katrina
President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur.

President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.

I sure hope this is just "campaign rhetoric" that hasn't been removed yet...

why?

[AlteredDNA]

This is currently on the official White House website:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/additional

Katrina
President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur.

President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.

I sure hope this is just "campaign rhetoric" that hasn't been removed yet...

why?

Do you think it's appropriate to take shots at a former administration on the OFFICIAL White House website?

Certainly, the change everyone is clamoring for includes a bit more decorum than this juvenille drivel...

edited to correct my brain-typo - thanks fredinator

[Michigan Girl]

KATRINA. I think the shameful way that Katrina was handled was Bush's undoing. How could anyone have missed that gigantic graphic of Katrina on the Weather channel? I STILL can't believe how badly that was handled--I remember sitting at our dinner table watching the news guys trying to get those poor people some water and help! This is the US--how in the hell did that shit happen?

Incompetence, denial, arrogance. I can't believe he was elected twice and I'm from Texas.

Bush has done a lot of stupid things but Katrina is not one of them...That was first and foremost the fault of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. It not only wasn't his fault but he warned both the governor and mayor Nagin several days before the hurricane struck there.

Thanks, CPC......we were warned! Our local government
did not act fast enough and even if they had, they were not prepared to evacuate those who
could not evacuate themselves....the elderly, the disabled, the children and the animals.
Jindal, just this past year, proved that it can be done when done correctly!!!
The only complaint I have about Bobby Jindal is that he failed to tell some of those folks that
they were going to be staying in facilities that were set up
to shelter thousands upons thousands of people in an emergency situation. Silly people, thought
they were staying at the Horseshoe!!!

+1 on this as well...

As to the levees, the money was allocated, but re-routed at the State level. THAT had been going on for YEARS...

+1
Hey, you got me before I could correct my spelling error (government)

DNA, answer this as a fellow Louisianian and parent.......
If you could not afford a vehicle and you had no money, your government
is telling you to leave your city or you and your children will die....what to you do?
I'll give you my answer if you get this right....

[fredinator]

Well, no shit about being warned! The freaking storm took up the whole Gulf! Anyone who watched TV knew to get out of there! Those poor people couldn't get out of there. Why didn't he do an address on TV and mention that he noticed it? He didn't do anything for 2-3 days.

[fredinator]

DNA, it's drivel not dribble, lol.

[Michigan Girl]

DNA, it's drivel not dribble, lol.

He's watching the Jazz.....

[S2M]

DNA, it's drivel not dribble, lol.

He's watching the Jazz.....

I wouldn't be caught dead watching the Jazz......

[AlteredDNA]

DNA, it's drivel not dribble, lol.

He's watching the Jazz.....

HAHA...that's exactly what I'm doing...and my excuse...

Fixed it fredinator, and I'm glad you agree that it is DRIVEL...