President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Saint John]

Ugh, I hope I never get pregnant.

That's why God gave you a mouth and knees.

Wobble Prevention.

Dude, where do you find this shit?!?! Might be out that way soon. You down for a few Car Bombs?

[Don]

Ugh, I hope I never get pregnant.

That's why God gave you a mouth and knees.

Wobble Prevention.

Dude, where do you find this shit?!?! Might be out that way soon. You down for a few Car Bombs?

Sure later in the month. I have friends coming in this weekend from Fukui but after that, the board is clear.

[Saint John]

Trying to organize something for early-mid-September. Get a ride this time because you're getting shit-faced.

[Don]

Trying to organize something for early-mid-September. Get a ride this time because you're getting shit-faced.

So, it's gonna be more than a five or six pints?
Okay, I'll try to get my kid to chauffeur or at worse take public transport. It's a straight shot to the ocean from Sunset to Santa Monica Blvd any way. No problem.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Everyone is entitled to a vacation and the First Lady is no exception. The whole issue is when Obama tells the American people that we all need to share the pain (taxes), cut our expenses, avoid Las Vegas etc. and than we have the First Lady taking this lavish trip to Spain. There are plenty of great places in this country which could use the support. Obama should be leading by example and this certainly sets the wrong tone.

I got a kick out of the UK's PM when he visited Washington. He flew commercial (Business Class not First) and took the train from Washington to NYC. While everyone may not agree with his politics and methods, at least he does lead by example.

Exactly.

I can't argue with this.

[Saint John]

Trying to organize something for early-mid-September. Get a ride this time because you're getting shit-faced.

So, it's gonna be more than a five or six pints?
Okay, I'll try to get my kid to chauffeur or at worse take public transport. It's a straight shot to the ocean from Sunset to Santa Monica Blvd any way. No problem.

Good deal. If I'm able to swing this, perhaps we'll find a spot closer to you since you were gracious enough to accomodate us last time. Either way, we'll make it work.

[Melissa]

Seems to me it's the responsibility of the parents to be responsible enough to either support any child they conceive or exercise enough restraint to not screw around in the first place.

One would think so, yet this country does an OUTSTANDING job of enabling and supporting LOTS of parents NOT to be responsible enough to support the kids they have, and better yet enabling them to KEEP screwing around because it pays better to have more than one they can't support.

[Angel]

Seems to me it's the responsibility of the parents to be responsible enough to either support any child they conceive or exercise enough restraint to not screw around in the first place.

One would think so, yet this country does an OUTSTANDING job of enabling and supporting LOTS of parents NOT to be responsible enough to support the kids they have, and better yet enabling them to KEEP screwing around because it pays better to have more than one they can't support.

...and then those kids repeat the cycle. It's the circle of life.

[RedWingFan]

Everyone is entitled to a vacation and the First Lady is no exception. The whole issue is when Obama tells the American people that we all need to share the pain (taxes), cut our expenses, avoid Las Vegas etc. and than we have the First Lady taking this lavish trip to Spain. There are plenty of great places in this country which could use the support. Obama should be leading by example and this certainly sets the wrong tone.

I got a kick out of the UK's PM when he visited Washington. He flew commercial (Business Class not First) and took the train from Washington to NYC. While everyone may not agree with his politics and methods, at least he does lead by example.

Exactly.

I can't argue with this.

Yeah, the taxpayer money spent on this is about the equivelent of a drop into an Olympic sized swimming pool. The fact that the Obama's have the gall to do it while the American economy is floundering so badly is a BAD miss-step politically. You can't blame Republicans for taking advantage of it. I have no problem with them making it an issue.

[lights1961]

LOVE THE scoreboard...

ALSO maybe this has been discussed... but the WH press secratary called out his own base...earlier this week in an inteview.... liberals... I loved it... almost discredited the whole base with one line... LOL... nothing made me smile more than to read about it... Maybe Gibbs will be on fox news after he resigns and you guys can bash him too...

[RedWingFan]

Watch this scary chart progression of unemployment by Counties since Reid and Pelosi took over Congress. Heartbreaking really...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ssIhiD8 ... r_embedded

Posted this here awhile ago dude.

[donnaplease]

Michelle Obama popularity falls (from 64% to 50%)

washingtonexaminer.com
8-12-10 Byron York

Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:43:53 PM

The number of Americans who have a positive opinion of First Lady Michelle Obama has fallen in the last 16 months, according to the new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll. In April, 2009, 64 percent of those surveyed by the Journal/NBC said they had a positive impression of Mrs. Obama; today, the number is 50 percent. That 50 percent personal approval is just slightly above President Obama's personal approval figure, which stands at 46 percent in the new poll.

The specific survey question asked respondents to rate their feelings about Mrs. Obama "as very positive, somewhat positive, neutral, somewhat negative, or very negative." The first lady's rating, a combination of the very positive and somewhat positive answers, has fallen from 64 percent in April '09 to 55 percent in January 2010 to 50 percent today.

I just found out that she was in Luray today for lunch, which the next town over from me, about 5 minutes from my house. DANG! I hate I missed her.

When I was driving home from work today I was stuck in a traffic processional that the state police took over, it was a motorcade with a several black SUVs. The first one had Washington DC license plates and the others were Maryland and Virginia. I figured it was someone from the government. That was outside of Charlottesville. Anyone know if any of our fearless leaders where in C'ville today?

[donnaplease]

August 12, 2010

First Lady Michelle Obama and her daughters toured Monticello on Thursday afternoon. A motorcade headed towards Thomas Jefferson's Albemarle County home was spotted by CBS19 crews.

Earlier in the day, the first family visited 'A Moment in Time" restaurant in Luray.

Workers say Michelle Obama ate a cheeseburger and loved every bite. They say she was very pleasant and down to earth.

No pictures were taken because Secret Service confiscated camera and cellular phones.

Spain to Luray to Martha's Vinyard next week.......Sweet!

Well, that makes sense. "A Moment in Time" is a very quaint little hole in the wall kind of 'joint'. I had dinner there with my hubby and son about 2 weeks ago. I'd be willing to bet they went to Luray Caverns as well, especially if the girls were with her. It likely was their motorcade that was going through the intersection on Route 29 toward DC when I was on my way home from work this evening. (Kinda funny seeing Luray used with Spain and MV... )

[slucero]

So much for "Transparency"...

Granted - this guy's prolly not a fan of the current administration... but the President relegating his once high priority "transparency" campaign promise from one that had its own position to one of splitting the duties amongst staff where transparency will not be a priority....is disheartening...

Obama closes curtain on transparency
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
August 12, 2010

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... 95914.html

President Obama has abolished the position in his White House dedicated to transparency and shunted those duties into the portfolio of a partisan ex-lobbyist who is openly antagonistic to the notion of disclosure by government and politicians. Obama transferred "ethics czar" Norm Eisen to the Czech Republic to serve as U.S. ambassador. Some of Eisen's duties will be handed to Domestic Policy Council member Steven Croley, but most of them, it appears, will shift over to the already-full docket of White House Counsel Bob Bauer.

Bauer is renowned as a "lawyer's lawyer" and a legal expert. His resume, however, reads more "partisan advocate" than "good-government crusader." Bauer came to the White House from the law firm Perkins Coie, where he represented John Kerry in 2004 and Obama during his campaign. Bauer has served as the top lawyer for the Democratic National Committee, which is the most prolific fundraising entity in the country. Then-Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., the caricature of a cutthroat Chicago political fixer, hired Bauer to represent the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. In the White House, Bauer is tight with Emanuel, having defended Emanuel's offer of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak, D-Pa., whom Emanuel wanted out of the Senate race.

Another Bauer client was New Jersey Sen. Robert "Torch" Torricelli back in 2001. When one Torricelli donor admitted he had reimbursed employees for their contributions to the Torch -- thus circumventing contribution limits -- Bauer explained, "All candidates ask their supporters to help raise money from friends, family members and professional associates." Bauer's own words -- gathered by the diligent folks at the Sunlight Foundation -- show disdain for openness and far greater belief in the good intentions of those in power than of those trying to check the powerful. In December 2006, when the Federal Election ommission proposed more precise disclosure requirements for parties, Bauer took aim at the practice of muckraking enabled by such disclosure.

On his blog, Bauer derided the notion "that politicians and parties are pictured as forever trying to get away with something," saying this was an idea for which "there is a market, its product cheaply manufactured and cheaply sold." In other words -- we keep too close an eye on our leaders. In August 2006 Bauer blogged, "disclosure is a mostly unquestioned virtue deserving to be questioned." This is the man the White House has put in charge of making this the most open White House ever. Most telling might have been Bauer's statements about proposed regulations of 527 organizations: "If it's not done with 527 activity as we have seen, it will be done in other ways," he told the Senate rules committee.

"There are other directions, to be sure, that people are actively considering as we speak. Without tipping my hand or those of others who are professionally creative, the money will find an outlet."

This perfectly captures the Obama White House's attitude toward disclosure. Sure, the administration publish the names of all White House visitors, but, as the New York Times reported a few weeks back, White House folks just meet their lobbyists at Caribou Coffee across the street. Sure, they restrict the work of ex-lobbyists in the administration, but lobbyists who de-list aren't questioned. And we've seen just a few of the e-mails former Google lobbyist, now Obama tech policy guru, Andrew McLaughlin traded with current Google lobbyists using his Gmail account, but who knows what else the White House whiz kids are doing to avoid the Presidential Records Act -- Facebook messages? Twitter direct messages? Did I mention Bauer was a lobbyist? At Perkins Coie, Bauer lobbied on behalf of America Votes Inc., a Democratic 527 funded by the likes of the AFL-CIO and ACORN.

The Sunlight Foundation is also concerned about the fact the White House no longer has anyone whose job is transparency, as Eisen's job was. John Wonderlich, at SunglightFoundation.com, lists a few transparency promises on which the president hasn't followed through, including earmark transparency, a single Web site (Ethics.gov) with all ethics and accountability information, and better lobbying disclosure, among others.

As with his other reformer rhetoric, Obama's transparency is mostly smoke and mirrors.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... z0wWorXYCd

[slucero]

Politically bad move on Obamas part... this will cost some Dems swing votes in November.... and Obama in 2012... he's giving his opposition rallying points...

someone just needs to build an synagogue next door to the mosque..

[Michigan Girl]

Here’s the statement issued by Debra Burlingame, the co-founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America:

"Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America’s heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see. Since that dark day, Americans have been asked to bear the burden of defending those values, again and again and again. Now this president declares that the victims of 9/11 and their families must bear another burden. We must stand silent at the last place in America where 9/11 is still remembered with reverence or risk being called religious bigots."

This breaks my heart!!

[slucero]

someone just needs to build an synagogue next door to the mosque..

Yeah, and lets build a Kamikaze Pilots Memorial next to the USS Arizona in Pearl Harbor while we're at it. Barry you ignorant slut.

Yup - like I said ... bad move politically.. gonna cost em.

[Saint John]

Just saw the "99'ers" on TV. What a bunch of prideless jackoffs. People should hurl stones at those fuckers.

[Saint John]

That mosque will never be built.

[slucero]

From a CNBC article

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38702987

The building on the site of the proposed center is already used for prayers, and some worshipers there on Friday night discussed the president’s remarks.

Mohamed Haroun, an intern at a mechanical engineering firm, said, “What he should have said was: ‘This is a community decision. Constitutionally, they have the right to do it, but it’s a community decision and we should see what the local community wants to do.’ ”

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Way to go Barry...you ignorant prick..

Where the fuck is Deano and Ohsherrie and all the other libs...I want to hear their defense of this travesty.

There is nothing to defend. Go read your constitution. Even if the developers’ motives are questionable, they are within their rights. Nearly every article that comes out against the building states “it may be legal BUT…” Uh-uh. Sorry. That’s not how it works here in America. Like desecrating the flag, you may not like it and it may be in bad taste, but it's legal. Good on Obama for yielding to the rule of law and not pandering to the base instincts of the mob. On what legal basis can it be stopped, FF?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Gound Zero and surrounding areas should be declared a National Historic Monument with plaques and memorials to 9/11 victims. Lets have Congress bring forth a bill abd declare GZ as such (we can remember their votes) and then lets have the LoOOser sign it, (or not) into law and the Historic Register. Case closed. I wanna see whose side he's really on.

In other words, create yet another public park paid for on the taxpayers dime, when the city already can't afford to maintain the amenities it has. The mosque is to be built 2 blocks away in an area already dense with real estate. Do you want the pre-existing buildings to be bulldozed? I'd actually be in favor of ur idea, if it could be funded. Given how many false-starts the GZ memorial has had, I wouldn't hold mybreath.

[slucero]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

I don't think so.. I'm just pointing out the obvious...

But just so you don't have to make an emergency run for napkins.. here ya go:


1. Constitutionally - the mosque is legal...

2. Politically - it's Kryptonite.. and its gonna cost the Dems in Nov and 2012. Talk about giving your opponents a rallying cry. Obama is getting played by the very religion he's defending.. he should have stayed out of it and left it to the local community.. where the decision (and opinion) rightfully belongs....

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

I don't think so.. I'm just pointing out the obvious...

So the smiley face emoticon you used regarding Obama handing the Repubs the mid-terms was meant to indicate what? You're a supreme GOP hack. Just admit it.

[slucero]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

I don't think so.. I'm just pointing out the obvious...

So the smiley face emoticon you used regarding Obama handing the Repubs the mid-terms was meant to indicate what? You're a supreme GOP hack. Just admit it.

Actually I just like smiling.. (see there I did it again)

I'm looking for the "shrieking" emoticon for ya.. will let ya know when I find it..

[conversationpc]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

I don't think so.. I'm just pointing out the obvious...

So the smiley face emoticon you used regarding Obama handing the Repubs the mid-terms was meant to indicate what? You're a supreme GOP hack. Just admit it.

And that makes someone a GOP hack how? Though I'm certainly conservative and now probably more of a conservative libertarian, I certainly still enjoy making fun of Democrats a whole lot more than Republicans. That doesn't make me a "GOP hack".

[Rick]

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

They're going to take over the world too. I watched a video on Youtube that said they're breeding 8 kids per household on average. Christians are breeding less than 2.

Your avatar is hilarious.

[Rick]

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

They're going to take over the world too. I watched a video on Youtube that said they're breeding 8 kids per household on average. Christians are breeding less than 2.

Your avatar is hilarious.

I thought so too, that's why I stole it off some blog.

I like that one too!

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is political Kryptonite... He just delivered the elections in November....

Careful. Your non-partisan veil is slipping again.

I don't think so.. I'm just pointing out the obvious...

So the smiley face emoticon you used regarding Obama handing the Repubs the mid-terms was meant to indicate what? You're a supreme GOP hack. Just admit it.

And that makes someone a GOP hack how? Though I'm certainly conservative and now probably more of a conservative libertarian, I certainly still enjoy making fun of Democrats a whole lot more than Republicans. That doesn't make me a "GOP hack".

If you're gleefully relishing the thought of Repubs taking back Congress, I'd argue you are NOT an independent who hates both sides equally.