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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:49 am

Bucs over the Bungles? Raida's over Go Chargers Go? An un-drafted rookie beating Drew Brees?

Week 6 Power Rankings:



1. N.Y Jets (1): The Jets have been playing lights out, and with the emergence of Holmes, Sanchez and the Jets will be that much better. They could go far with a defense like that and their offensive weapons.



2. Baltimore Ravens (5): The Ravens are getting the job done and taking care of early business. Even though they lost a tough one to Cincy, they are one up on Pitt and safety Ed Reed is making his return to bolster up that secondary. Ray Rice is a beast.



3. Pittsburgh Steelers (4): With Ben back, and with the Browns starting a rookie in Colt McCoy this week, this could be the start of something great.



4. Atlanta Falcons (6): Welcome to the new class of the NFC South. The Falcons have the South in the palm of their hands and should take off running with the Saints not looking like contenders.



5. Green Bay Packers (2): Tough loss in Washington in OT, and Aaron Rodgers could miss next week due to concussion. Still, with the Vikes in the shape their in, it's Green Bay's division to take.



6. Indianapolis Colts (7): Are the Chiefs THAT good, or are the Colts starting to slump into mediocrity? As long as #18 is under center, the Colts have a shot.



7. Washington Redskins (N/A): There's just something about Donovan McNabb and what he brings to a football team. Mix that in with a defense that comes from everywhere and a H.O.F coach and there's a playoff formula.



8. Philadelphia Eagles (N/A): Big win for the Eagles. Concern was it that Kolb's physique was shot in the wake of Vick but he came out against a hungry San Fran team on the road and got the job done. He should hold the fort down until Vick returns.



9. New England Patriots (10): Yes, the New England Patriots moved up 1 spot even on their bye week. Teams like the Chargers and Texans just can't seem to hold their respective spots and it's a team like the Patriots who could benefit from that come playoff time down the road. Same with Manning, as long as Brady is under center, they have a chance.




10. New Orleans Saints (3): Big drop for New Orleans. The Saints had it coming for weeks now. Losing to an un-drafted rookie against a terrible team won't cut it for the Saints this season , esp the way Atlanta is playing at the moment. The Saints better pick it up quick or they'll find themselves in trouble.

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Next 7: Houston Texans, Tennessee Titans, N.Y Giants, Chicago Bears, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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Postby S2M » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:05 am

The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:13 am

S2M wrote:The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.


Nope, the Jets won it, atleast that's what 29-20 means. Picking off Favre for 6 was huge. How can the Vikes lose it when they never even had the lead? Favre did play well in the second half, but tendinitis, ankle problems, and with new allegations against him, this season for the Vikes so far is a disaster.
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Postby S2M » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:16 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
S2M wrote:The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.


Nope, the Jets won it, atleast that's what 29-20 means. Picking off Favre for 6 was huge. How can the Vikes lose it when they never even had the lead? Favre did play well in the second half, but tendinitis, ankle problems, and with new allegations against him, this season for the Vikes so far is a disaster.


Favre's miss on that short lob overthrow was the game....Harvin could has run for 40 yards....field goal...game over. Vikes lost it. Period.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:19 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
S2M wrote:The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.


Nope, the Jets won it, atleast that's what 29-20 means. Picking off Favre for 6 was huge. How can the Vikes lose it when they never even had the lead? Favre did play well in the second half, but tendinitis, ankle problems, and with new allegations against him, this season for the Vikes so far is a disaster.


Favre's miss on that short lob overthrow was the game....Harvin could has run for 40 yards....field goal...game over. Vikes lost it. Period.


The Vikes sure did lose it. 29-20. That's the nature of the game. He over-threw him, and whose to say the Vikes even make the kick? That's all a moot point because we'll never know what would or could of happened. Favre missed the throw. The Jets picked Favre off. To me, that's defense winning games. Such is life in the NFL.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:42 am

What a fuckin wild season so far. I was out of town and didn't watch much football save the last half of the fourth quarter last night, but the results speak for themselves.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:13 am

Ehwmatt wrote:What a fuckin wild season so far. I was out of town and didn't watch much football save the last half of the fourth quarter last night, but the results speak for themselves.


Dude, I heard you guys are going to forfeit Sunday. Is this true? :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:03 am

S2M wrote:
Favre's miss on that short lob overthrow was the game....Harvin could has run for 40 yards....field goal...game over. Vikes lost it. Period.



Favre is a fucking fraud and apparently taking sex offending lessons from Ben. Guy is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL and has way too many fucking apologists! I could care less about the yards, TD's or the bogus consecutive games streak. I've never seen a QB with ONE championship so built up that costs his teams more games with moronic throws and poor decision making! I'd take that rapist Ben over Favre 100 out of 100 times!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:09 am

Enigma869 wrote:
S2M wrote:
Favre's miss on that short lob overthrow was the game....Harvin could has run for 40 yards....field goal...game over. Vikes lost it. Period.



Favre is a fucking fraud and apparently taking sex offending lessons from Ben. Guy is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL and has way too many fucking apologists! I could care less about the yards, TD's or the bogus consecutive games streak. I've never seen a QB with ONE championship so built up that costs his teams more games with moronic throws and poor decision making! I'd take that rapist Ben over Favre 100 out of 100 times!


Ben's victim was a girl whose last name's Brady and rumor has it she has beautiful, thick blond flowing hair. Didn't boy wonder cheat on Bridget Moynahan, while pregnant with his child, with another boy? :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:25 am

YoungJRNY wrote: Didn't boy wonder cheat on Bridget Moynahan


I don't know and don't particularly care. What I do know is that he's never been accused of raping someone!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:26 am

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YoungJRNY wrote: Didn't boy wonder cheat on Bridget Moynahan


I don't know and don't particularly care. What I do know is that he's never been accused of raping someone!


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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:33 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
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You and I dont' disagree that everyone should have the presumption of innocence. That said, the guy is a complete fucking moron. As far as I know, this isn't the first time that he's put himself in a position like this. Someone needs to slap the shit out of this guy and stop blaming his transgressions on being "young". At some point, that excuse doesn't work any longer. On another note, the Steelers have proved what I've been saying for years...Ben really isn't that relevant to what they do. That team is all about defense. Always has been and always will be. Even when that fraud Bradshaw was playing, their offense sucked. The Steelers can't win without Polamalu. They've already proven that their QB isn't all that relevant to what they do.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:46 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
S2M wrote:The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.


Nope, the Jets won it, atleast that's what 29-20 means. Picking off Favre for 6 was huge. How can the Vikes lose it when they never even had the lead? Favre did play well in the second half, but tendinitis, ankle problems, and with new allegations against him, this season for the Vikes so far is a disaster.



Call me retarded and or fucked up, but you may have just watched a Super Bowl preview. The Vikings are close...they can run the next six games if they play 4 quarters a game. They got the Packers twice and perhaps one of them will be without Rodgers. Favre is getting in a groove. I know the holdout retirement BS didn't help his 41 yr old ass. He now has Moss and gets rice back in a week. Add to that, there is absolutely no separation in the NFC. And please don't shout out Chicago. They are the worst 4-1 team I have ever seen. It will still come down to Minnesota, Green Bay and a NFC East Team.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:52 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
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You and I dont' disagree that everyone should have the presumption of innocence. That said, the guy is a complete fucking moron. As far as I know, this isn't the first time that he's put himself in a position like this. Someone needs to slap the shit out of this guy and stop blaming his transgressions on being "young". At some point, that excuse doesn't work any longer. On another note, the Steelers have proved what I've been saying for years...Ben really isn't that relevant to what they do. That team is all about defense. Always has been and always will be. Even when that fraud Bradshaw was playing, their offense sucked. The Steelers can't win without Polamalu. They've already proven that their QB isn't all that relevant to what they do.


I don't disagree that the city of Pittsburgh and its football team is run, and ALWAYS will be run by the physicality of our defense. It's no secret and everyone and their mother knows what Steelers football is all about: Defense.

Pittsburgh Steelers defensive rank since 1990:

1990: 1
1991: 22
1992: 13
1993: 3
1994: 2
1995: 3
1996: 2
1997: 6
1998: 12
1999: 11
2000: 7
2001: 1
2002: 7
2003: 9
2004: 1
2005: 4
2006: 9
2007: 1
2008: 1
2009: 5

Steelers Super Bowl rings, with a dominant defense before Roethlisberger's emergence: 0.

The Steelers defense, before Ben Roethlisberger's arrival, has topped the NFL's top 10 defense's 10 times from 1990-2003 and finished in the top 5 six times within that time period. Result? 0 Super Bowl rings.

Say what you want, but it's easy to say that even though as DOMINANT as the Steelers defense has been during Pittsburgh football's existence, since Terry Bradshaw, the missing ingredient to propel us over the ledge to Super Bowl champions was the play of the quarterback position.

Ben had one of THEE worst Super Bowl's in XL (second year in the league, age 24) but we would have NEVER made the run we made without his arm, and certainly wouldn't have won in 2008 neither the way he performed on that last drive in Super Bowl XLIII. As good as the Steelers defense always was/is, do you REALLY think that they could of achieved the same results with Kordell fucking Stewart under center? History says no. The X-factor to the Steelers championship runs over the years, was Roethlisberger and if you can't make that correlation, then it's not worth the argument.

Even last season, as bad as the Steelers defense melted down in the 4th QRT, we still ranked #5 overall and only missed the post-season by a game. Roethlisberger threw for over 4,000 yards, 26 td's behind a LOUSY line and a non-existent running game. The Steelers offense is in the pits right now and rank 32 in passing offense. You don't think Ben will give this team the kind of power it needs and how the defense can dictate off of that? The biggest fans of Ben from here on out, is the Steelers defense, as dominant as they are.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:57 am

Rockindeano wrote:Call me retarded and or fucked up, but you may have just watched a Super Bowl preview. The Vikings are close...they can run the next six games if they play 4 quarters a game. They got the Packers twice and perhaps one of them will be without Rodgers. Favre is getting in a groove. I know the holdout retirement BS didn't help his 41 yr old ass. He now has Moss and gets rice back in a week. Add to that, there is absolutely no separation in the NFC. And please don't shout out Chicago. They are the worst 4-1 team I have ever seen. It will still come down to Minnesota, Green Bay and a NFC East Team.


Not happening kid. The Jets aren't going to the Super Bowl. As great as their defense is, their offense is still VERY suspect! I don't disagree with your argument about the NFC. It truly is wide open. Atlanta and Chicago are both 4-1 and I'm not sold on either team. That said, as much talent as the Vikings have, Favre is almost guaranteed to choke it away, as he ALWAYS does, when it actually matters!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:57 am

Rockindeano wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
S2M wrote:The Jets didn't win that game, the Vikes lost it....the only props I'll give the Jets is that they kept the score low. 3 turnovers buried the Favre and company....and that short lob that was mere inches from being caught was the difference. I'm not saying the Jets stink, but they were lucky last night.


Nope, the Jets won it, atleast that's what 29-20 means. Picking off Favre for 6 was huge. How can the Vikes lose it when they never even had the lead? Favre did play well in the second half, but tendinitis, ankle problems, and with new allegations against him, this season for the Vikes so far is a disaster.



Call me retarded and or fucked up, but you may have just watched a Super Bowl preview. The Vikings are close...they can run the next six games if they play 4 quarters a game. They got the Packers twice and perhaps one of them will be without Rodgers. Favre is getting in a groove. I know the holdout retirement BS didn't help his 41 yr old ass. He now has Moss and gets rice back in a week. Add to that, there is absolutely no separation in the NFC. And please don't shout out Chicago. They are the worst 4-1 team I have ever seen. It will still come down to Minnesota, Green Bay and a NFC East Team.


I can agree with this to a certain extent. The Vikes may be the best 1-3 team in the league and they still have enough time to make it right and pull themselves within position to make a run. The Division isn't even out of reach as of yet and like you said, Favre is starting to hit a slight groove that is bound to get better with the weapons they have. No way should anyone sleep on Minny but their schedule is brutal.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:15 am

YoungJRNY wrote:I don't disagree that the city of Pittsburgh and its football team is run, and ALWAYS will be run by the physicality of our defense. It's no secret and everyone and their mother knows what Steelers football is all about: Defense.

Pittsburgh Steelers defensive rank since 1990:

1990: 1
1991: 22
1992: 13
1993: 3
1994: 2
1995: 3
1996: 2
1997: 6
1998: 12
1999: 11
2000: 7
2001: 1
2002: 7
2003: 9
2004: 1
2005: 4
2006: 9
2007: 1
2008: 1
2009: 5

Steelers Super Bowl rings, with a dominant defense before Roethlisberger's emergence: 0.

The Steelers defense, before Ben Roethlisberger's arrival, has topped the NFL's top 10 defense's 10 times from 1990-2003 and finished in the top 5 six times within that time period. Result? 0 Super Bowl rings.

Say what you want, but it's easy to say that even though as DOMINANT as the Steelers defense has been during Pittsburgh football's existence, since Terry Bradshaw, the missing ingredient to propel us over the ledge to Super Bowl champions was the play of the quarterback position.

Ben had one of THEE worst Super Bowl's in XL (second year in the league, age 24) but we would have NEVER made the run we made without his arm, and certainly wouldn't have won in 2008 neither the way he performed on that last drive in Super Bowl XLIII. As good as the Steelers defense always was/is, do you REALLY think that they could of achieved the same results with Kordell fucking Stewart under center? History says no. The X-factor to the Steelers championship runs over the years, was Roethlisberger and if you can't make that correlation, then it's not worth the argument.

Even last season, as bad as the Steelers defense melted down in the 4th QRT, we still ranked #5 overall and only missed the post-season by a game. Roethlisberger threw for over 4,000 yards, 26 td's behind a LOUSY line and a non-existent running game. The Steelers offense is in the pits right now and rank 32 in passing offense. You don't think Ben will give this team the kind of power it needs and how the defense can dictate off of that? The biggest fans of Ben from here on out, is the Steelers defense, as dominant as they are.




Listen, I'm on record as someone who believes that Ben is a very good NFL QB. That said, if you take Polamalu off that team, they're winning absolutely NOTHING! If you don't believe me, put in your tapes from last season and the "eyeball test" should vaidate my point!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:23 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:I don't disagree that the city of Pittsburgh and its football team is run, and ALWAYS will be run by the physicality of our defense. It's no secret and everyone and their mother knows what Steelers football is all about: Defense.

Pittsburgh Steelers defensive rank since 1990:

1990: 1
1991: 22
1992: 13
1993: 3
1994: 2
1995: 3
1996: 2
1997: 6
1998: 12
1999: 11
2000: 7
2001: 1
2002: 7
2003: 9
2004: 1
2005: 4
2006: 9
2007: 1
2008: 1
2009: 5

Steelers Super Bowl rings, with a dominant defense before Roethlisberger's emergence: 0.

The Steelers defense, before Ben Roethlisberger's arrival, has topped the NFL's top 10 defense's 10 times from 1990-2003 and finished in the top 5 six times within that time period. Result? 0 Super Bowl rings.

Say what you want, but it's easy to say that even though as DOMINANT as the Steelers defense has been during Pittsburgh football's existence, since Terry Bradshaw, the missing ingredient to propel us over the ledge to Super Bowl champions was the play of the quarterback position.

Ben had one of THEE worst Super Bowl's in XL (second year in the league, age 24) but we would have NEVER made the run we made without his arm, and certainly wouldn't have won in 2008 neither the way he performed on that last drive in Super Bowl XLIII. As good as the Steelers defense always was/is, do you REALLY think that they could of achieved the same results with Kordell fucking Stewart under center? History says no. The X-factor to the Steelers championship runs over the years, was Roethlisberger and if you can't make that correlation, then it's not worth the argument.

Even last season, as bad as the Steelers defense melted down in the 4th QRT, we still ranked #5 overall and only missed the post-season by a game. Roethlisberger threw for over 4,000 yards, 26 td's behind a LOUSY line and a non-existent running game. The Steelers offense is in the pits right now and rank 32 in passing offense. You don't think Ben will give this team the kind of power it needs and how the defense can dictate off of that? The biggest fans of Ben from here on out, is the Steelers defense, as dominant as they are.




Listen, I'm on record as someone who believes that Ben is a very good NFL QB. That said, if you take Polamalu off that team, they're winning absolutely NOTHING! If you don't believe me, put in your tapes from last season and the "eyeball test" should vaidate my point!


AGREED and it's obvious that what the Steelers do as a defense in the LeBeau system is built around the interior lines and that dictates what a player like Polamalu can do in the secondary and even where he lines up. Aaron Smith went down last year hurt our run defense/pass rush and that hurts our 3-4 linebackers as well. Polamalu out of the lineup was too much to handle and we just sucked in holding leads because of it. The Steelers will never be a stat team that feeds themselves off of rankings and cute style points. We are run the way football is meant to be played and that's a total team effort. The offense relies off the defense, and certainly vice versa (special teams also killed Pittsburgh last season.) If the offense can't control the clock, the Steelers defense can be exposed for being out on the field too long. Our offense was pitiful at situational football and short yardage downs and it killed the defense.

But anyway, who do you like this year, JFB?
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:33 am

YoungJRNY wrote: the interior lines that dictates what a player like Polamalu can do


Um, NO. Polamalu is a special player and what he does is attributable to one thing and one thing only...his immense talent. He's easily the best defensive player on that team and honestly, for my money, there isn't a defensive player in the NFL I like more. Dude is intense and a great, great player!



YoungJRNY wrote:But anyway, who do you like this year, JFB?


I like Pittsburgh or Baltimore in the AFC. Everyone has been on the Jets since the pre-season and I'm not buying the hype. When push comes to shove, I'm not sold on Sanchez. I've seen all but one game the Jets have played this season and in spite of their record, they are a VERY beatable team. As for the NFC, there isn't a single team in the NFC who I find remotely impressive. I think the Saints have been dreadful and are nothing more than a VERY average team at this point in time. I actually agree with most of what Dean said earlier about the Vikings, with the exception of Favre. If they had another QB, I'd be far more sold on their chances. If they win, it will be by default.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:38 am

Enigma869 wrote: He's easily the best defensive player on that team and honestly, for my money, there isn't a defensive player in the NFL I like more.


When he's healthy, Ed Reed is one bad dude! But, like Polamalu, when you play the game at that speed, you're gonna miss time with injuries.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:40 am

Saint John wrote:When he's healthy, Ed Reed is one bad dude!


Love Ed Reed's game too. He's the second best Safety in the NFL...behind Polamalu. Troy is the man. Hopefully the fans in Pittsburgh appreciate what a great player this guy is. Remember, Baltimore wins without Reed. Pittsburgh is irrelevant without Polamalu.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:46 am

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Saint John wrote:When he's healthy, Ed Reed is one bad dude!


Love Ed Reed's game too. He's the second best Safety in the NFL...behind Polamalu. Troy is the man. Hopefully the fans in Pittsburgh appreciate what a great player this guy is. Remember, Baltimore wins without Reed. Pittsburgh is irrelevant without Polamalu.


I'm gonna correct you when you said "without," John. Ed Reed coaches from the sideline and has been a great teammate while they're "without" him on the field. :wink: A lot of guys would just stand on the sideline and watch the game, or be in a press box. This guy is right there encouraging, coaching and firing his teammates up. That's great, and very rare, to see. This guy embodies what it is to be a "teammate."
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:45 am

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I'm gonna correct you when you said "without," John. Ed Reed coaches from the sideline and has been a great teammate while they're "without" him on the field. :wink: A lot of guys would just stand on the sideline and watch the game, or be in a press box. This guy is right there encouraging, coaching and firing his teammates up. That's great, and very rare, to see. This guy embodies what it is to be a "teammate."


Just so I'm clear, I think Ed Reed is a great player. He and Ray Lewis are that Baltimore defense. That said, I'll still take Polamalu over Reed. I'm sure Baltimore fans won't agree but I'm not a fan of either team. I'm simply an observer of the NFL and my eyes tell me that Polamalu is the top DB in the NFL.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:01 am

Um, NO. Polamalu is a special player and what he does is attributable to one thing and one thing only...his immense talent. He's easily the best defensive player on that team and honestly, for my money, there isn't a defensive player in the NFL I like more. Dude is intense and a great, great player!


Absolutely. My point though was that the Steelers as a whole entire defense is built off the anchor of the 3 initial d-linemen. They dictate how our secondary needs to play because if the big boys can't stop the run, or if the linebackers don't bring the pressure, then that leaves our secondary on an island since we are heavy in blitzing and if things go array, we keep Troy back but if we are firing we can then call the defense around what Troy can do as far as disguising and putting him at the line or anywhere else.

In the Baltimore game, the Ravens did an excellent job of getting rid of the ball quick and we didn't get pressure on Flacco so that forced us to use Polamalu more in coverage rather than coming up more in run support. (We actually had Troy blitzing on that game winning throw by Flacco and he was picked up nicely by Heap, and that left McFadden one on one on an island on Houseyourmama so the front pressure is monumental to how the secondary reacts.)

Polamalu will be Polamalu, the dude has his own option on the field and has the authority to do what he thinks is right in the situation regardless of what our defensive play call is. Ryan Clark once said that he has no idea where Troy is going to end up and he'll do as he may on the field and the line of communication is pivotal in LeBeau's defense. Without Troy last season, we became more traditional and the line of communication was non-existent and we collapsed.
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Postby S2M » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:21 am

This is a very mediocre year for the NFL...an influx of rookie DBs has definitely hurt the outcomes of games. I don't know how many times I've seen these DBs face-guarding, only to be burnt by receiver time and time again...never turning around to find the ball. Memo: If you know your team is getting a decent enough pass rush - gamble. Jump the fucking route. Turn your fucking head around. And not only that....receivers have adapted to the DBs that don't turn around - they don't reach their hands out until the last second...also, play calling this year is appalling. *I* could do a better job at calling offensive plays than a majority of these losers....mix in a little deception in now and again: flea-flicker, hook and ladder....SOMETHING. I've seen FAKE reverses this year....no real ones though. There's nothing better at stopping the over persual of RBs more than reverses...throw in a naked bootleg every once in awhile....and on defense? Jump a fucking slant route sometime...play up on a receiver and knock his ass to the ground in the first 5 yds. or push a Mofo out of bounds while on his route...the NFL has really become sterile.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:26 am

S2M wrote:This is a very mediocre year for the NFL...an influx of rookie DBs has definitely hurt the outcomes of games. I don't know how many times I've seen these DBs face-guarding, only to be burnt by receiver time and time again...never turning around to find the ball. Memo: If you know your team is getting a decent enough pass rush - gamble. Jump the fucking route. Turn your fucking head around. And not only that....receivers have adapted to the DBs that don't turn around - they don't reach their hands out until the last second...also, play calling this year is appalling. *I* could do a better job at calling offensive plays than a majority of these losers....mix in a little deception in now and again: flea-flicker, hook and ladder....SOMETHING. I've seen FAKE reverses this year....no real ones though. There's nothing better at stopping the over persual of RBs more than reverses...throw in a naked bootleg every once in awhile....and on defense? Jump a fucking slant route sometime...play up on a receiver and knock his ass to the ground in the first 5 yds. or push a Mofo out of bounds while on his route...the NFL has really become sterile.


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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:34 am

S2M wrote:This is a very mediocre year for the NFL...an influx of rookie DBs has definitely hurt the outcomes of games. I don't know how many times I've seen these DBs face-guarding, only to be burnt by receiver time and time again...never turning around to find the ball. Memo: If you know your team is getting a decent enough pass rush - gamble. Jump the fucking route. Turn your fucking head around. And not only that....receivers have adapted to the DBs that don't turn around - they don't reach their hands out until the last second...also, play calling this year is appalling. *I* could do a better job at calling offensive plays than a majority of these losers....mix in a little deception in now and again: flea-flicker, hook and ladder....SOMETHING. I've seen FAKE reverses this year....no real ones though. There's nothing better at stopping the over persual of RBs more than reverses...throw in a naked bootleg every once in awhile....and on defense? Jump a fucking slant route sometime...play up on a receiver and knock his ass to the ground in the first 5 yds. or push a Mofo out of bounds while on his route...the NFL has really become sterile.


The NFL really isn't any different than it's ever been. The only real difference this season is the mediocrity is a bit more widespread. There are a whole lot of teams that simply aren't good. There are other teams (and I count the Patriots among these teams) who really don't know what they are, and then there are the Carolinas and Buffalos who simply suck. At the end of the year, the only thing that I'm supremely confident about is that everyone's pre-season picks for the Super Bowl (Jets and Cowgirls) will only be attending the Super Bowl if they purchase a ticket to attend!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:57 am

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S2M wrote:This is a very mediocre year for the NFL...an influx of rookie DBs has definitely hurt the outcomes of games. I don't know how many times I've seen these DBs face-guarding, only to be burnt by receiver time and time again...never turning around to find the ball. Memo: If you know your team is getting a decent enough pass rush - gamble. Jump the fucking route. Turn your fucking head around. And not only that....receivers have adapted to the DBs that don't turn around - they don't reach their hands out until the last second...also, play calling this year is appalling. *I* could do a better job at calling offensive plays than a majority of these losers....mix in a little deception in now and again: flea-flicker, hook and ladder....SOMETHING. I've seen FAKE reverses this year....no real ones though. There's nothing better at stopping the over persual of RBs more than reverses...throw in a naked bootleg every once in awhile....and on defense? Jump a fucking slant route sometime...play up on a receiver and knock his ass to the ground in the first 5 yds. or push a Mofo out of bounds while on his route...the NFL has really become sterile.


The NFL really isn't any different than it's ever been. The only real difference this season is the mediocrity is a bit more widespread. There are a whole lot of teams that simply aren't good. There are other teams (and I count the Patriots among these teams) who really don't know what they are, and then there are the Carolinas and Buffalos who simply suck. At the end of the year, the only thing that I'm supremely confident about is that everyone's pre-season picks for the Super Bowl (Jets and Cowgirls) will only be attending the Super Bowl if they purchase a ticket to attend!


The NFL is just a mess this year. No team wants to rise up from the cream of the crop and demand who they are. Instead, you have teams like the Chargers killing bad teams one week, lose to okay teams, come back and kill bad teams, then lose again to a bad team the next. It's just baffling.

I'm in a pick-em poll and I SPECIFICALLY went in to change my Bears/Panthers pick because of how god awful Todd Collins is (plus, the Panthers took it to the Saints, so I thought this would be the perfect shot for them to land their first W.)

Collins proves me right by completing a WHOPPING 6 passes for 32 yards and 4 picks, but the Bears still win by fuckin a million. :roll: The Bears looked so bad on offense against an okay at-the-time Giants team and Matt Forte has been getting me 3-4 points a game in fantasy, so I sat him for a week. The dude explodes for a huge game and leaves me stranded.

Same as T.O, of coarse, my injury luck continues for my fantasy players YEARLY, so I was forced to make some trades and pull some people out of my lineup because I had a couple guys on IR.

T.O at the time was getting me .9 points per game, so the logical reasoning was to drop him and add a good matchup via waiver. What do you know, he blows up for 222 yards and a T.D against the Clowns. That shit drives me up a wall. Oh yeah, BTW: Robert Meachem, Bradford's favorite target out for the season. He was one of my top leading receivers. :twisted: The anger.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:30 pm

Bigger pretender: 09 Broncos at 6-0 or '10 Bears at 4-1?
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:10 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:Bigger pretender: 09 Broncos at 6-0 or '10 Bears at 4-1?


That's a tough one. They are eerily similiar on how their playing right now comparing Chi 2010 and Den 2009. They both have had great defense's carry them. Denver's D last year was pretty tough at this time of the year and Chicago's D is one of the best this season. You could argue Cutler is more of a well rounded player than Orton, but Orton has severely out-performed Cutler the past couple seasons quite easily and he's putting up mad numbers while Cutler remains a below average QB.

Denver played in a weak division (and a stronger Conference) but the Bears have their work cut out for them with GB and Minny. Plus, Orton had Marshall and Cutler doesn't have that great of a supporting cast other than an off and on Forte and Marshall is more dynamic than Knox, so I'd say the 2010 Bears are more pretenders right now.
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