President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Monker]

whoops..sorry about posting from right wing blogs..

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html


New prognostications show Republicans easily overtaking the House next week, but Democrats are dispatching their top figures for a last round of campaigning and injecting fresh cash into the races, in an attempt to stave off a blowout.

Republicans could easily pick up 50 seats on Nov. 2, far more than the 39 needed to win the majority, according to the Hill. The newspaper's 2010 midterm election poll surveyed 17,000 likely voters in 42 toss-up districts, and the results mirror those of other recent projections.

Democrats face the potential of "a political bloodbath the size of which we haven't seen since the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt," pollster Stuart Rothenberg wrote Tuesday.

SWEET!

I fail to see where all the glee is coming from? So you win the House? Big deal. You won't control anything. You won't pass anything. You won't be able to repeal anything. You won't get a single thing done.

How is this any different than now?

Yet you are doing cartwheels. Trust me, this is the worst thing that can happen to the GOP in the long run. Come back in November 2012, and I'll show you.

The difference is that the Republicans are the ones being voted in to 'change'...Only, they are not in a position to 'change' anything. So, they are in a losing stance from the start.

[Monker]

The last several pages of this thread stand as reason one why I don't post here nearly as much as I used to. TNC is the only liberal here whose opinion is normally well-thought out. I'm all for a good argument, with a small dose of name-calling thrown in, but this is ridiculous.

I would take quality of posts over quantity of posts any day

[Seven Wishes2]

Monker and I put more thought, logic, research, and unassailable data and facts each into our posts than you brain-dead Republicans do, collectively, over the course of one year.

[Rockindeano]

The last several pages of this thread stand as reason one why I don't post here nearly as much as I used to. TNC is the only liberal here whose opinion is normally well-thought out. I'm all for a good argument, with a small dose of name-calling thrown in, but this is ridiculous.

I would take quality of posts over quantity of posts any day

Guess I'm fucked.

[slucero]

Monker and I put more thought, logic, research, and unassailable data and facts each into our posts than you brain-dead Republicans do, collectively, over the course of one year.

and yet all the "logic, research, and unassailable data" will not keep the Dems in power after next week... 1/2 of this country votes Democrat, 1/2 Republican.... yet both sides think they are "right"...

[Seven Wishes2]

Hey, true fiscal conservatism is a valid approach when we're not in a recession. There are some GOP ideals that (at least philosophically) are preferable than some elements of the more liberal progressive agenda. The Republican base is energized in 2012...almost entirely due to their racism and because they're obeying their marching orders.

[slucero]

Hey, true fiscal conservatism is a valid approach when we're not in a recession. There are some GOP ideals that (at least philosophically) are preferable than some elements of the more liberal progressive agenda. The Republican base is energized in 2012...almost entirely due to their racism and because they're obeying their marching orders.

The very same could have been said about the Dem base in 2008...

[Rockindeano]

Hey, true fiscal conservatism is a valid approach when we're not in a recession. There are some GOP ideals that (at least philosophically) are preferable than some elements of the more liberal progressive agenda. The Republican base is energized in 2012...almost entirely due to their racism and because they're obeying their marching orders.

The very same could have been said about the Dem base in 2008...

Things were so bad in 2008, the Dems and anyone else for that matter, had no choice but to vote for Obama. No one gave them marching orders...what they were givin was a hint of just how bad republicanism has become, and the detriments of it's practice on the people of this country. They simply have no ideas and are intellectually bankrupt. Seriously, the only reason for the backlash against Obama and Dems this go round is greatly due to the fact that the poor bastard hasn't dug America out of the giant hole it was put in by Bush and the republicans. I tell ya, they sure have a way of scheming things. Fortunately, for Dems and the rest of America, their timing is decent, but not great. By 2008, they will once again be out of House power, Senate power, and have no shot at the White House. The people will have found out just how ridiculous the repuiblican party is. LOL? If the republicans are so fucking great, why the upturn in the Tea Party? You mean to tell me that the republicans couldn't defeat the Dems on their own, and that they need to have the assistance of a third party in order to win back the House in a non presidential election year, when by history, the party out of power almost always wins anyway. Don't break your arms patting yourselves on the back Pubs. You really haven't accomplished anything of real historical signifigance. Congratulations, you have cemented gridlock into our Legislative branch. Boy, how proud you must be.

[slucero]

Apparently you've forgotten that both parties only care about the "Win"....

[RossValoryRocks]

Hey, true fiscal conservatism is a valid approach when we're not in a recession. There are some GOP ideals that (at least philosophically) are preferable than some elements of the more liberal progressive agenda. The Republican base is energized in 2012...almost entirely due to their racism and because they're obeying their marching orders.

Racism? What are you talking about? Give me an example of racism that is part of any mainstream republican platform?

[RossValoryRocks]

GALLUP SEES TIDAL WAVE


http://www.gallup.com/poll/144053/2010- ... -Past.aspx

Gallop isn't a valid source...he are nothing but shills for the republicans. Give us irrefutable sources like the Huffington Post...or moveon.org polling. They are irrefutable and unbiased...did I mention their irrefutable facts used irrefutably? You need to have irrefutable sources that can't be refuted and only have facts, that are of course irrefutable.

[Seven Wishes2]

You're talking about interpreting polls, whereas I'm talking about black-and-white truths. One has nothing to do with the other.

Back to the old drawing board then, eh, Wile E.?

[Seven Wishes2]

Racism? What are you talking about? Give me an example of racism that is part of any mainstream republican platform?

Other than it sticks out like a sore thumb? The very middle class that was being systematically eliminated by the Bush Administration wants to "take back Washington" from the (unfortunately) black President who's doing everything he can to prevent America from looking like India with its caste system? The placards, signs, and postings all over the web not enough evidence for you? What about the birth certificate "issue"? Come on. It's VERY obvious.

From CNN.com:

On CBS' "Face the Nation," NAACP President Ben Jealous faced off against David Webb of the National Tea Party Federation. Webb said Mark Williams, the former chairman and spokesman of Tea Party Express who came under fire last week for writing a satirical letter in which he called slavery a "great gig," and his group had been expelled from the National Tea Party Federation.

And this...

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), appearing on CNN, said there are "some individuals who have tried to exacerbate racial tensions in this country" within the tea party movement. "I have seen some virulent flyers that have been directed at our members, clearly referencing race, the president's race and race generally," Hoyer said.

[RossValoryRocks]

Racism? What are you talking about? Give me an example of racism that is part of any mainstream republican platform?

Other than it sticks out like a sore thumb? The very middle class that was being systematically eliminated by the Bush Administration wants to "take back Washington" from the (unfortunately) black President who's doing everything he can to prevent America from looking like India with its caste system? The placards, signs, and postings all over the web not enough evidence for you? What about the birth certificate "issue"? Come on. It's VERY obvious.

From CNN.com:

On CBS' "Face the Nation," NAACP President Ben Jealous faced off against David Webb of the National Tea Party Federation. Webb said Mark Williams, the former chairman and spokesman of Tea Party Express who came under fire last week for writing a satirical letter in which he called slavery a "great gig," and his group had been expelled from the National Tea Party Federation.

And this...

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), appearing on CNN, said there are "some individuals who have tried to exacerbate racial tensions in this country" within the tea party movement. "I have seen some virulent flyers that have been directed at our members, clearly referencing race, the president's race and race generally," Hoyer said.

Come on man...One tea party guy writes a SATIRICAL piece, and STENY HOYER? Seriously...it is in his interest to say suit like that...he says he SAW the flyers...but he didn't provide any as proof...I grant you there are racists out there, on both side....but you are out in left field if you think the tea party is a racist group.

As for the caste comment...you see something wrong with a person being entitled to what they have earned OVER someone getting the fruits of that labor and not having earned it? Welfare has done more WRONG to the African-American community since its inception than the most racist organization out there. It has caused that community to be a permanent underclass by decoupling monetary gain from having put in the sweat to have earned it...and now you would like to compound that? Who's the racist again?

[brandonx76]

GALLUP SEES TIDAL WAVE


http://www.gallup.com/poll/144053/2010- ... -Past.aspx

Gallop isn't a valid source...he are nothing but shills for the republicans. Give us irrefutable sources like the Huffington Post...or moveon.org polling. They are irrefutable and unbiased...did I mention their irrefutable facts used irrefutably? You need to have irrefutable sources that can't be refuted and only have facts, that are of course irrefutable.

You just eviscerated my irrefutable non-biased yet valid source with irrefutable FACTS, and you duplicated it in triplicate fashion which makes it easier for all of us to understand by irrefuteably validating a Fox News shill with Limbaughesque Hannity Orwellian wonder.

Fucking classic you guys...

[RedWingFan]

Gallop isn't a valid source...he are nothing but shills for the republicans. Give us irrefutable sources like the Huffington Post...or moveon.org polling. They are irrefutable and unbiased...did I mention their irrefutable facts used irrefutably? You need to have irrefutable sources that can't be refuted and only have facts, that are of course irrefutable.

You just eviscerated my irrefutable non-biased yet valid source with irrefutable FACTS, and you duplicated it in triplicate fashion which makes it easier for all of us to understand by irrefuteably validating a Fox News shill with Limbaughesque Hannity Orwellian wonder.

You two irrefutably are stupid troglodytes!

[RossValoryRocks]

Gallop isn't a valid source...he are nothing but shills for the republicans. Give us irrefutable sources like the Huffington Post...or moveon.org polling. They are irrefutable and unbiased...did I mention their irrefutable facts used irrefutably? You need to have irrefutable sources that can't be refuted and only have facts, that are of course irrefutable.

You just eviscerated my irrefutable non-biased yet valid source with irrefutable FACTS, and you duplicated it in triplicate fashion which makes it easier for all of us to understand by irrefuteably validating a Fox News shill with Limbaughesque Hannity Orwellian wonder.

You two irrefutably are stupid troglodytes!

And that makes you what? #3?

[Rockindeano]

Hey 3 Douches?...I see you piling on 7 Wishes. The guy is a smart motherfucker who believes what he believes and IMO, makes pretty strong arguments for....however, I think what you are doing here is pretty classless. Just because dude disagrees with your concrete Conservatism, does not invalidate is opinions.

Think about that.

[RedWingFan]

Hey 3 Douches?...I see you piling on 7 Wishes. The guy is a smart motherfucker who believes what he believes and IMO, makes pretty strong arguments for....however, I think what you are doing here is pretty classless. Just because dude disagrees with your concrete Conservatism, does not invalidate is opinions.

Think about that.

Do you believe that we're racist Dean? Would you throw that accusation at us repeatedly because we disagree with you? Why haven't you chastised him for that, but scold us like school kids for making fun of his wording?

Is it just because he agrees with you?

[RossValoryRocks]

Hey 3 Douches?...I see you piling on 7 Wishes. The guy is a smart motherfucker who believes what he believes and IMO, makes pretty strong arguments for....however, I think what you are doing here is pretty classless. Just because dude disagrees with your concrete Conservatism, does not invalidate is opinions.

Think about that.

Let's see he calls us racists...and then back it up with 2 examples? Calling someone a racist is he debating equivalent of asking someone when they stopped beating their wife. The race card is he least common denominator of political and only non-thinking, race baiters use it to bolster weak or indefensible positions.

[RossValoryRocks]

Hey 3 Douches?...I see you piling on 7 Wishes. The guy is a smart motherfucker who believes what he believes and IMO, makes pretty strong arguments for....however, I think what you are doing here is pretty classless. Just because dude disagrees with your concrete Conservatism, does not invalidate is opinions.

Think about that.

And its not as if you haven't been captain pileon a few times yourself, ya know?

[RedWingFan]

Hey 3 Douches?...I see you piling on 7 Wishes. The guy is a smart motherfucker who believes what he believes and IMO, makes pretty strong arguments for....however, I think what you are doing here is pretty classless. Just because dude disagrees with your concrete Conservatism, does not invalidate is opinions.

Think about that.

Let's see he calls us racists...and then back it up with 2 examples? Calling someone a racist is he debating equivalent of asking someone when they stopped beating their wife. The race card is he least common denominator of political and only non-thinking, race baiters use it to bolster weak or indefensible positions.

Don't you mean "irrefutable positions"? Don't let it happen again!

[Rockindeano]

Maybe I misread it, but I thought he was calling the Tea Party, and the far right racists. Anyway, I'll let him debate your question. No, I wouldn't call you racists. But it pretty obvious a lot of Pubbies hate blacks and Beaners.

[RedWingFan]

Maybe I misread it, but I thought he was calling the Tea Party, and the far right racists. Anyway, I'll let him debate your question. No, I wouldn't call you racists. But it pretty obvious a lot of Pubbies hate blacks and Beaners.

Well, I am a "beaner". Does it mean I hate Mexican's if I insist they must be here legally and obey our Immigration laws? Does it mean I hate them if I want safety and justice for those Americans on the border who are killed on their own land by illegals? I'll stand for that, you can call me what you want.

[slucero]

Maybe I misread it, but I thought he was calling the Tea Party, and the far right racists. Anyway, I'll let him debate your question. No, I wouldn't call you racists. But it pretty obvious a lot of Pubbies hate blacks and Beaners.

I guess that makes me... a conservative Latino..a racist then..

[conversationpc]

Monker and I put more thought, logic, research, and unassailable data and facts each into our posts than you brain-dead Republicans do, collectively, over the course of one year.

Monker, yes. You? You're probably wrong more than anyone else in this thread.

[conversationpc]

I really hate this kind of thing, regardless of which President it is. I hated it when Bush was in office and I hate it now.

[conversationpc]

The last several pages of this thread stand as reason one why I don't post here nearly as much as I used to. TNC is the only liberal here whose opinion is normally well-thought out. I'm all for a good argument, with a small dose of name-calling thrown in, but this is ridiculous.

I would take quality of posts over quantity of posts any day

That's the point...The quality is lacking in this thread from most of the participants.

[RossValoryRocks]

CLINTON PUSHED BLACK TO GET OUT!


http://www.drudgereport.com/

Excuse me...is that source irrefuatable? I think not...Drudge is a Republican plant and parrots the neo-con, troglodytic, Hiltler-esque, brain dead and very refutable source. I am right you are wrong, because I SAID SO....Because Monker and I are the best!!!!!

[RedWingFan]

I really hate this kind of thing, regardless of which President it is. I hated it when Bush was in office and I hate it now.

It drives me crazy when someone has a nice car and slaps any kind of bumper sticker on it. Looks tacky and ugly as hell. Why would anyone do that?