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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:52 am

Eagles coach Andy Reid has waffled several times this year about his quarterback situation, at various times anointing Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb and Michael Vick as his starter. So if Reid can't even make a firm decision about his quarterback this year, it's not surprising that he can't decide who his quarterback will be next year.

Jim Rome asked Reid on today's Jim Rome Is Burning whether he expects to have Vick on his team next year, and Reid said he hasn't thought that far in advance.

"I haven't even gone there," Reid said. "I'm kind of in the moment, as they say. As a coach that's kind of how you live. And so I haven't looked down the road on this. I'm very blessed to have two quarterbacks in Kevin Kolb and Michael Vick."

That's probably the smartest answer Reid can give: At this point, we know we can't believe anything Reid says about his quarterback situation, so he's better off saying nothing at all.

So Reid can enjoy having both Vick and Kolb for the rest of this season, and then make his decision about whether to sign Vick to a long-term deal after the season. If this year is any guide, that's a decision he'll have a hard time making.
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:55 am

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Inside the Cool Springs Galleria, the last remnants of the latest shipment of No. 84 jerseys were on display at the Titans Locker Room kiosk. One couple came out of the adjacent Victoria Secret and picked a hanger off the rack.

"Eighty-nine dollars?" a woman asked. "Not worth it."

Plenty of customers thought otherwise, with Randy Moss jerseys flying off the racks since he joined the hometown team. The Tennessee Titans last week were alone among the NFL's 32 franchises in putting a claim in for the gifted and mercurial wide receiver following his unceremonious release by the Minnesota Vikings after just three unproductive and combative weeks.

Their take: definitely worth it.

"I think he's going to be great," said Titans Locker Room area manager Dan O'Reilly, who was working the mall Tuesday morning. "I can't wait to see what happens on the field."

All of Nashville is in anticipation, with Moss' arrival rivaling the Cam Newton news for headlines and talk-radio rants in this Southeastern Conference hotbed. This might be the franchise's boldest move since the Houston Oilers uprooted from Texas for the Volunteer State.

So it was, two hours later and about 18 miles to the north, Moss came off the practice field at Baptist Sports Park and stepped behind the podium at a crowded news conference for his first public words since that rambling five-minute New England Patriots lovefest Oct. 31 -- and accompanying sideswipe at Vikings coach Brad Childress -- following a Vikings 28-18 loss that led to his release.

Moss, fined $20,000 by the league for not speaking to reporters earlier this year, said even less this time than he did in Foxborough. After sending a message to his mother and two siblings that he's doing just fine, he acknowledged his respect for Titans coach Jeff Fisher, the most tenured head coach in the league going on 17 seasons.

He said he'd take two questions -- three at the most -- but started with a lengthy opening statement.

"I've got big, broad shoulders and can carry a lot of weight,." Moss said. "The process of getting here has been kind of crazy. You know, I left a lot of good friends, a lot of good guys in Minnesota, and I'm sorry it didn't work out. But the show must go on."

And it did.

"I think when people start understanding the business side of football, it'll make it a better league, but like I said, I'd just like to thank my family and friends for sending out calls and texts and everything positive," Moss continued, with the former likely a reference his lack of a contract after this season, but who knows? "To all my critics ... you gotta get paid to be negative, so I look forward to coming out and helping this team however I can and whatever my role is is what I'm going to do. Hopefully, I fit into coach Fisher's team and go out and make some plays and keep winning."

The first question had to do with whether Moss made the Titans (5-3), tied with Indianapolis for first in the AFC South with a road date Sunday against the Miami Dolphins (4-4), a Super Bowl contender.

"No, I do not," he said. "I told coach Fisher, I've had pressure on me my whole life. This is nothing new to me. So instead of coming here and thinking Super Bowl, I just want to take it one day at a time, learn the plays, take it one game at a time and if down the road is the playoffs, we'll have that when we get to that."

The second question was answered with a question.

What can this team expect from you effort-wise?

"What do you expect from me effort-wise?"

Well, other people ...

"I didn't say other people. What do you expect from me effort-wise?"

I don't know what to expect.

"Well, then I don't know what to expect, either. Next question."

This one had something do with Moss' latest stop -- his fourth team (Minnesota, Oakland, New England, back to Minnesota, now Tennessee) in a 13-year career that likely will land Moss (along with his 948 catches, 14,778 yards, 153 TDs and counting) in the Pro Football Hall of Fame one day.

"I made Minnesota my home. I loved being there. It just didn't work out," Moss said. "I had my own beliefs in what I believed in and coach (Childress) had his. So, am I bitter or mad that he let me go? No. You never know what the future holds. But right now, I'm a Tennessee Titan and I'm here to do whatever coach Fisher wants me to do."

Asked about what intrigued him about the Titans, Moss spoke about their history in Houston and Tennessee, then praised Fisher, too.

"I said it before, I didn't want to go into Minnesota and mess anything up, but I guess everybody blamed me for it," Moss said. "So I'll say it again: I ain't coming in here to start no trouble. Coming here to work everyday and hopefully win."

Then off he went, leaving his coach and new teammates to gush about how much Moss will help an offense ranked 24th in passing but No. 1 in scoring -- and brush aside any notion that bringing him into the locker room is a gamble.

Fisher, who has a track record of steering clear of character-flagged players ("Pacman" Jones being a rare exception), stated earlier in the week that there was "no risk whatsoever" with the Moss move. He wasn't back-tracking Wednesday, despite being reminded of some well-documented instances -- caught on camera, by the way -- when Moss clearly was giving less than 100 percent effort, including a play as recently as his last game with the Vikings, when he pulled up on a pass interference play and let a likely touchdown throw drop a few feet away.

"There are receivers every game that lose the flight of the ball -- they don't know the ball is coming, but he's automatically guilty of a lack of effort," Fisher said. "He's going to work hard. He's working hard now."

And all those other times?

"I wasn't there," Fisher said. "I don't know what the scenario was. I don't know what the play call was. I don't know what the formation was or whether he was primary or not or whether he didn't get a check. I can't comment. All I can comment on is the way he's going to play here."

The rest of the Titans fell in line with those talking points, starting with backup quarterback Kerry Collins, who teamed with Moss in Oakland.

"You can pick out a clip here and a clip there and say, 'Oh look, Randy is dogging it,' but that never tells the whole story," Collins said. "I played with the guy, I know what he brings."

Cornerback Cortland Finnegan: "(The) media likes to blow things up."

No argument there. Collins, in fact, said there were more reporters at his locker Wednesday than he'd ever seen during his time as a Titan.

They weren't there to ask about facing the Dolphins this week, either.

"That's what he brings," Collins said. "People are excited and are going to pay attention to what we're doing -- and defenses are going to pay attention to what we're doing. Those are all good things."

That's what they said when Moss went to Minnesota the second time. Barely a month ago, in fact. Moss was unhappy with his diminishing role and contract status in New England, so he was traded. Not much was different in Minneapolis. How'd that work out?

Still no new contract now, either.

"I told him let's have some fun and win some games first," Fisher said. "We'll discuss the contract after the season."

Collins is right about people paying attention. This could be really good or really bad.

But definitely worth watching.

If nothing else, jerseys sales are up.
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:16 am

Hilarious Andy Reid (or Ried) video from when he was 13. Take a look at the size of all the kids lined up in back of him :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gNFL2upZE
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:55 am

Enigma869 wrote:Hilarious Andy Reid (or Ried) video from when he was 13. Take a look at the size of all the kids lined up in back of him :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gNFL2upZE


I did see that the other day. Look at the size differential between him and that tiny little kid wearing #22. Hysterical. He looks like Tommy Boy pulling a Billy Madison going back to school. Hot damn is that disturbing, lmao.
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:09 pm

the 6-2 baltimore ravens are on the road tonight against the 6-2 atlanta falcons.should be a pretty good game.i don't get to see many falcons games because they don't get a lot of national exposure like baltimore does but i'm really looking forward to seeing matt ryan play.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:23 am

Tom Brady sprains foot, but will play against Pittsburgh this up and coming Sunday Night barn-burner.

I would be VASTLY dissapointed if Brady didn't play. The last time we spanked N.E, Cassel was in the game in '08, so all Stiller fans should want Brady in there and for them to give us their best shot and beat them at their best shot, then take care of them in the playoff in Heinz Field (or Foxboro) if it ever presents itself! Brady is on the "probable" list every week anyway, Bellichick loves that kind of injury report to toy with opponents.

Say what you want about Brady, but the dude is a phenom, so all Steelers fans wants to see if we can stop him. N.E certainly comes in here at the right time, looks like we will be playing musical chairs on the o-line again this week with both of Bens blind side tackle and guard out.
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Postby Don » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:27 am

Sterger finally meets with NFL officials

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5792832

..."we cooperated fully by providing them [NFL] with substantial materials in our possession. We now await the NFL's decision."...
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:34 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Tom Brady sprains foot, but will play against Pittsburgh this up and coming Sunday Night barn-burner.

I would be VASTLY dissapointed if Brady didn't play. The last time we spanked N.E, Cassel was in the game in '08, so all Stiller fans should want Brady in there and for them to give us their best shot and beat them at their best shot, then take care of them in the playoff in Heinz Field (or Foxboro) if it ever presents itself! Brady is on the "probable" list every week anyway, Bellichick loves that kind of injury report to toy with opponents.

Say what you want about Brady, but the dude is a phenom, so all Steelers fans wants to see if we can stop him. N.E certainly comes in here at the right time, looks like we will be playing musical chairs on the o-line again this week with both of Bens blind side tackle and guard out.


A couple of points Travis. Brady has been on the injury report for more than 5 seasons but it's always his shoulder "injury". This is a completely different issue and has nothing to do with Bellichick trying to get any kind of an advantage. Truth be told, the Steelers should win this game, because it's on their own field. Even though the Patriots offense is struggling mightily, I'll still take their offense over the Steelers offense, but I'd also take the Steelers defense over any team in the NFL. I'm calling the Steelers by a FG, but don't start thumping your chest about how badly you want Brady. Last I checked, Brady's career record against the Steelers is 6-1 so he hasn't exactly struggled against them or their stout defense. Pittsburgh's D simply cannot be run against and the Patriots can't run the ball to save their lives, so in some respects, it plays into the Patriots strength. As much as I LOVE Polamalu and think he's the best defensive player in the league, he plays VERY aggressively (the guy is basically a linebacker playing safety) and with that aggressive play comes a whole lot of chances being taken so the Steelers can definitely be beat down the field.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:44 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:Tom Brady sprains foot, but will play against Pittsburgh this up and coming Sunday Night barn-burner.

I would be VASTLY dissapointed if Brady didn't play. The last time we spanked N.E, Cassel was in the game in '08, so all Stiller fans should want Brady in there and for them to give us their best shot and beat them at their best shot, then take care of them in the playoff in Heinz Field (or Foxboro) if it ever presents itself! Brady is on the "probable" list every week anyway, Bellichick loves that kind of injury report to toy with opponents.

Say what you want about Brady, but the dude is a phenom, so all Steelers fans wants to see if we can stop him. N.E certainly comes in here at the right time, looks like we will be playing musical chairs on the o-line again this week with both of Bens blind side tackle and guard out.


A couple of points Travis. Brady has been on the injury report for more than 5 seasons but it's always his shoulder "injury". This is a completely different issue and has nothing to do with Bellichick trying to get any kind of an advantage. Truth be told, the Steelers should win this game, because it's on their own field. Even though the Patriots offense is struggling mightily, I'll still take their offense over the Steelers offense, but I'd also take the Steelers defense over any team in the NFL. I'm calling the Steelers by a FG, but don't start thumping your chest about how badly you want Brady. Last I checked, Brady's career record against the Steelers is 6-1 so he hasn't exactly struggled against them or their stout defense. Pittsburgh's D simply cannot be run against and the Patriots can't run the ball to save their lives, so in some respects, it plays into the Patriots strength. As much as I LOVE Polamalu and think he's the best defensive player in the league, he plays VERY aggressively (the guy is basically a linebacker playing safety) and with that aggressive play comes a whole lot of chances being taken so the Steelers can definitely be beat down the field.


Yep, I certainly agree with all of your points. Like I said earlier, if there's any team I fear in the league, it's a Patriots matchup because Brady does nothing but burn Pittsburgh's D through the air. The Steelers defense might be the most stout in the league by far, but they are very vulnerable against the short/dump off pass's, and it was Tom Brady and the New England Patriots that exposed that about Pittsburgh in 2002. Since then, teams copy cated the Pats and have had success against a very aggressive D.

I'm not thumping my chest on Brady, I know what kind of animal we are up against. I want him in a different way. The dude is a H.O.F'er and for the Steelers and the fans alike, it'll be nice to see if we can man up, confuse him or just plain old get to him mono-e-mono. If we can do that on Brady, whose torched us, then I feel good about our Super Bowl chances. If not, then we have work to do because N.E got our number, esp in the playoffs so right now, the Steelers got to get that #12 monkey off their back and the only way to do that is to beat him straight up not once, but poss twice. Until then, the Pats got the advantage over us. I'm with you but the opposite. I like the Pats by 3-6 points.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:53 am

For those wondering about how the whole "Flex" scheduling works in the NFL...

NFL Flexible Scheduling 101
Begins Sunday of Week 11
In effect during Weeks 11-17
Only Sunday afternoon games are subject to being moved into the Sunday night window.
The game that has been tentatively scheduled for Sunday night during flex weeks will be listed at 8:15 p.m. ET.
The majority of games on Sundays will be listed at 1:00 p.m. ET during flex weeks except for games played in Pacific or Mountain Time zones which will be listed at 4:05 or 4:15 p.m. ET.
No impact on Thursday, Saturday or Monday night games.
The NFL will decide (after consultation with CBS, FOX, NBC) and announce as early as possible the game being played at 8:15 p.m. ET. The announcement will come no later than 12 days prior to the game. The NFL may also announce games moving to 4:05 p.m. ET and 4:15 p.m. ET.
Week 17 start time changes could be decided on 6 days notice to ensure a game with playoff implications.
The NBC Sunday night time slot in "flex" weeks will list the game that has been tentatively scheduled for Sunday night.
Fans and ticket holders must be aware that NFL games in flex weeks are subject to change 12 days in advance (6 days in Week 17) and should plan accordingly.
NFL schedules all games.
Teams will be informed as soon as they are no longer under consideration or eligible for a move to Sunday night.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:50 pm

Former Rams and Eagles receiver Kevin Curtis has missed the entire 2010 season while recovering from testicular cancer. Now he’s fully recovered and eager to sign with an NFL team.

“Kevin is ready. He’s feeling great,” Ryan Tollner, Curtis’ agent, told Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com.

Curtis had surgery on September 23 to remove a cancerous testicle, but he said his prognosis was good and that “I’m pretty fortunate, really.”

After catching 77 passes for 1,110 yards in 2007, Curtis was slowed by knee problems in 2008 and 2009, but Tollner said Curtis’s knee is now 100 percent, and Curtis is anxious to help some team make the playoffs.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:01 pm

10-0 Atlanta over Baltimore. HALFTIME. Great game.
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Postby S2M » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:24 pm

This Patriot team is very interesting. And this week's match-up is just as perplexing. NE has no running game, but Pitt likes to sell-out on the run almost every play. If NE had any semblance of a running game - I'd call this a mismatch of styles. However, the best thing for an over aggresive defense is reverses, fake reverses, and double reverses...losing Gostkowski means that belichick will go for it every time he is in that in-between yardage area..where you are too close to punt, yet too far for Shank Graham. Conversely, if NE tries for long FGs - Pitt could wind up with excellent field position.

Not having a true pass rusher could be the death knell for the Pats...coupled with the fact that Ben is a sequoia - taking him down will be tough. I'm really not afraid of Ward...or Mendenhall. I'm concerned with screen plays, Ben scrambling, and NE's kicking game....

If I were NE's offensive coordinator I would feature alot of trick plays and change of direction calls....

Secondly, IF NE gets a decent pass rush I would have the CBs start jumping routes.....

A note about last week's game....I thought Cleveland was smart in not kicking it to Tate. That was 40% of the win right there....I suggest Pitt do the same.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:48 pm

ugh!!!! :lol:

Yesterday morning when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up; fireman, policeman, salesman, etc. The teacher noticed that little John John was being uncharacteristically quiet and so she asked him about his father. 'My father's an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes off all his clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer's really good, he'll go out to the alley with some guy and do it with him for money.'The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some coloring, and took little John John aside to ask him,'Is that really true about your father?' 'No,' said John John , 'He plays for the Dallas Cowboys, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids!
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:46 pm

great game,ratbirds lose to the falcons on a last minute catch by roddy white.

very tight race in AFC

steelers 6-2
jets 6-2
patriots 6-2
ravens 6-3
tennessee 5-3
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kansas city 5-3
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:01 pm

Falcons came up HUGE! Just what the doctor ordered. Matt Ryan is FIERCE at home, dude doesn't lose. The race is on in the AFC NORTH and it looks like the Falcons are for real in the NFC. This is the time to separate yourself from the NFL pact and the Falcons did just that tonight. The Steelers now have some lee-way going into this game against N.E. Now the homefield advantage ticker enhances and even if the Steelers slip one this week, they will still be tied for first in the AFC NORTH but this is a HUGE conference game for the AFC, esp on how the Browns are playing and they face the Jets so anything could happen.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:10 pm

S2M wrote:
Not having a true pass rusher could be the death knell for the Pats...coupled with the fact that Ben is a sequoia - taking him down will be tough.


Wow...I'm actually agreeing with you for a change. Ben is impossible to bring down and that will be exacerbated by the fact that the Patriots simply aren't a good tackling team.


S2M wrote:I'm really not afraid of Ward...or Mendenhall.


Fuck Hines Ward. I can't stand that goofy fuck. He's never been anywhere near as good as anyone in Pittsburgh thinks he is. Mendenhall is still an unproven back and to me, just an average guy. That said, the Patriots gave up almost 200 yards rushing to Peyton Fucking Hillis last week! Also, Mike Wallace is a FAR better receiver than Hines Ward is and he scares the shit out of me, because the Patriots secondary has nobody who can cover that dude!

S2M wrote:I'm concerned NE's kicking game....


I agree 100%. Not only do the Patriots have a kicker who wasn't good enough to play for the train wreck Bungles, they also have a new long snapper, so that could turn into a disaster.

S2M wrote:If I were NE's offensive coordinator I would feature alot of trick plays and change of direction calls....


Billy O'Brien SUCKS as a play caller. It's the only real reason the New England offense has been VERY stagnant for most of this season. Absolutely zero imagination, and that isn't a good thing when going up against a VERY formidable defense like Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's cornerbacks suck ass, so a guy like Brady should really be able to pick them apart, but I'm just not feeling it because Pittsburgh's front 7 is absolutely dominant and I don't see Brady having enough time to pick those shit corners apart.

S2M wrote:Secondly, IF NE gets a decent pass rush I would have the CBs start jumping routes.....


New England never gets much of a pass rush, so I wouldn't hang your hat on that happening.

S2M wrote:A note about last week's game....I thought Cleveland was smart in not kicking it to Tate. That was 40% of the win right there


Last week's game was lost when Gronkowski fumbled the ball going into the end zone before halftime. That would have made it 17-14 at halftime with the Patriots getting the ball to start the second half. I honestly don't like the matchup this week for the Patriots at all. I think that the Patriots will play significantly better than they did last week and still lose by a TD. Unfortunately for the Patriots, it's a two game swing, because of the head to head matchup. It looks like the Patriots may have to travel to Heinz Field in January, at which point I'll pick them to send Shitsburgh home once again :shock:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:35 am

Fuck Hines Ward. I can't stand that goofy fuck. He's never been anywhere near as good as anyone in Pittsburgh thinks he is. Mendenhall is still an unproven back and to me, just an average guy. That said, the Patriots gave up almost 200 yards rushing to Peyton Fucking Hillis last week! Also, Mike Wallace is a FAR better receiver than Hines Ward is and he scares the shit out of me, because the Patriots secondary has nobody who can cover that dude!


Everyone forgets that Hines Ward is the kind of tough that Pittsburgh thrives on and is a perfect fit for the city. He plays linebacker wrapped up in a wideout's body and he will be sorely missed whenever he decides to hang them up because not only does he bring clutch football to the table weekly, Hines is one of the reasons why our perimeter running game and running game as a whole since he's been here has been one of the best. You will never see another player in this league block in the running game like Hines Ward, ever. The dude is a tough as it gets and is a stud go to guy when Ben or anyone else is in trouble. People forget he's 36 years old and can still get open against many starting corners in this league. Can't remember who said it, but a defensive back said Hines is very difficult to cover because his football speed is what counts and he's one of the best route runners in the NFL. He's a savvy vet. With age, be brings wise. Your team would be better off with 11 Hines Wards lining up. We appreciate him like no other.

As for Mendenhall, the guy is a shifty as it comes and he's still only 21 years of age and is only in his second full season starting at tailback so he has room to grow. He brings major explosiveness and major bounce to the team and he'll only get better. He has the ability to make atleast 3-5 guys miss and plays his ass off weekly. Mendenhall could be a terror in this league very soon, esp on a dirt track in January.

I've seen guys like Randy Moss and Terrell Owens fly by corner backs, but I've NEVER seen the kind of quick twitch speed that Mike Wallace has in his legs. The dude hasn't been covered yet and none of our QB's can even lead him he's so damn fast. He beats cover 2's like he owns the formation and flys by double/triple coverage with ease. I'd like to see him become a more complete receiver, but his down-field ability is special.


Billy O'Brien SUCKS as a play caller. It's the only real reason the New England offense has been VERY stagnant for most of this season. Absolutely zero imagination.


I guess you've never seen a Pittsburgh Steelers game since 2007. Bruce Arians is possibly THEE worst situational play-caller of all time, esp in Pittsburgh and esp since we lost Whiz some years ago. Arians offense is just plain old bad in the red-zone because the dude wants to do nothing but run ill-drawn up reverse's and sweeps that rarely rank high in percentages near the redzone. Against the Saints, the Steelers had first and goal on the half-inch mark. Instead of calling the absolute unstoppable QB sneak on the half inch mark with your 6'5 250 pound QB, he calls a mid-line play to Redman against a stacked box. 1st and goal at the half inch mark, and 3 straight running plays stuffed at the 4 yard line later leads to 3 points instead of 7. Terrible, Arians is as bad as it gets!

Pittsburgh's cornerbacks suck ass, so a guy like Brady should really be able to pick them apart.


Easy there. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is set up, scheme wise, to put the corners off and keep the entire offensive package in front of them. Very rarely does the Steelers secondary get beat deep with a pass 20 yards or more downfield. The Steelers corners are designed to keep the yardage in front of them, and they WILL give up those yards, but coming up and being a great tackler is key so we don't give up Y.A.C. We give teams the underneath/sidelines so even though those yards add up, it plays right into our run-blitz mentality and forcing a team into 3rd and longs to where we can get blitz happy with. Before you know it, the sack comes at the right time and the Steelers defense tightens up with a short field. Bryant McFadden has been huge for us this year, and Ike Taylor has been very underrated as a shadow corner his whole career only because the dude has hands of rock.

It'll be an interesting matchup. Since the Steelers give up the short yardage and underneath routes and since Brady and the Patriots offense strive off of inching their way down the field with those dump-offs will make for a pretty tight and very intriguing matchup in Prime Time. The NFL loves these kinds of games, pitting two of the best teams within the decade against each other. The advantage I see in Pittsburgh is that N.E seems to be running the football more because their lack of talent elsewhere, and no way N.E will run on us, so that might put Brady and the Pats in must-win 3rd downs. We'll see.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:41 am

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John from Boston with a shitty attitude wrote:Pittsburgh's cornerbacks suck ass, so a guy like Brady should really be able to pick them apart.


Easy there. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is set up, scheme wise, to put the corners off and keep the entire offensive package in front of them. Very rarely does the Steelers secondary get beat deep with a pass 20 yards or more downfield. The Steelers corners are designed to keep the yardage in front of them, and they WILL give up those yards, but coming up and being a great tackler is key so we don't give up Y.A.C. We give teams the underneath/sidelines so even though those yards add up, it plays right into our run-blitz mentality and forcing a team into 3rd and longs to where we can get blitz happy with. Before you know it, the sack comes at the right time and the Steelers defense tightens up with a short field. Bryant McFadden has been huge for us this year, and Ike Taylor has been very underrated as a shadow corner his whole career only because the dude has hands of rock.


John is correct Trav. Are you smoking the hippie lettuce already this morning? Pittsburgh does indeed have shitty corners. Did you catch their act in the 4th quarter against Cincinnati? Palmer completed down and in routes of 25 yds at will. Those guys suck.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:46 am

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John from Boston with a shitty attitude wrote:Pittsburgh's cornerbacks suck ass, so a guy like Brady should really be able to pick them apart.


Easy there. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is set up, scheme wise, to put the corners off and keep the entire offensive package in front of them. Very rarely does the Steelers secondary get beat deep with a pass 20 yards or more downfield. The Steelers corners are designed to keep the yardage in front of them, and they WILL give up those yards, but coming up and being a great tackler is key so we don't give up Y.A.C. We give teams the underneath/sidelines so even though those yards add up, it plays right into our run-blitz mentality and forcing a team into 3rd and longs to where we can get blitz happy with. Before you know it, the sack comes at the right time and the Steelers defense tightens up with a short field. Bryant McFadden has been huge for us this year, and Ike Taylor has been very underrated as a shadow corner his whole career only because the dude has hands of rock.


John is correct Trav. Are you smoking the hippie lettuce already this morning? Pittsburgh does indeed have shitty corners. Did you catch their act in the 4th quarter against Cincinnati? Palmer completed down and in routes of 25 yds at will. Those guys suck.


Nope, I did have some Four Loko last night though. Listen, the Steelers are a VERY heavy blitz happy defense. They blitz more-so than any other team in the NFL and their ability to disguise is just as important. When you bring an extra man, or in some case's, 2 or 3, that leaves the secondary on an ISLAND when that pressure doesn't amount in your favor of getting to the QB, then the corners are stuck and could get ugly. The Steelers defense gambles hard each possession and sometimes they will get beat occasionally, just like any other NFL team. Like I said, it's very rare that a Steelers defense gives up the big play, LeBeau designs the defense to keep off and keep back. Stop the run FIRST, worry about the pass second, and NEVER, EVER get beat deep. When they do, they gamble. Palmer and anyone else did jack SHIT up until the 4th when they were pressed. Other than the usual breakdowns (the turnover didn't help none, which put the defense on its heels) I was happy with their performance.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:50 am

Oh, BTW: Wasn't the Steelers leading the league in takeaways? Last year they had all but like 12 INT's defensively and didn't have a cornerback with an INT until the last game of the season. So far, the Steelers have 12 INT takeaways leading the league as well as 14 forced fumbles (if I can remember correctly, got to check it.)
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:12 am

Might not know it, but the Steelers have a LONG LIST of laundry of NFL apologies since I can remember. The NFL officials admits 2 wrong call against them in the Monday Night game.


NFL says officials made 2 wrong calls against Steelers
Friday, November 12, 2010
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


The Steelers have been informed by the National Football League that two penalties that almost cost them in Monday night's victory in Cincinnati should not have been called, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Coach Mike Tomlin sent a complaint to the league office earlier this week, challenging the roughing-the-passer penalty on nose tackle Casey Hampton and a pass interference penalty against cornerback Ike Taylor on back-to-back plays that allowed the Bengals to move to the Steelers 1 in the fourth quarter.

Two plays later, the Bengals scored on a 1-yard run by Cedric Benson to cut the Steelers lead to 27-21.

After Jeff Reed missed a 46-yard field goal that would have given the Steelers a nine-point lead, the Bengals drove to the Steelers 12 and had a chance to win the game until a fourth-down pass to rookie receiver Jordan Shipley was broken up by Taylor and linebacker James Harrison with 34 seconds remaining.

The league informed the Steelers the penalty against Hampton should not have been called because he hit quarterback Carson Palmer on the thigh, not below the knee or to the head, after an incomplete pass.

On the next play from the Steelers 21, Taylor was penalized for pass interference against Terrell Owens, a call that was made by the official in the back of the end zone, not the side judge who was right in front of the play on the left sideline. The league told the Steelers no penalty should have been called.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10316/11 ... z155aEfwMP
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:16 am

Dude, your obsession with the Fucking Steelers is downright creepy. There has to be more to life than Steeler football. Goddamn.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:25 am

Rockindeano wrote:Dude, your obsession with the Fucking Steelers is downright creepy. There has to be more to life than Steeler football. Goddamn.


Huh? Lmao, really? Being a diehard Steelers fan OR football fan is now creepy all of a sudden? Is this not the NFL football thread to where we express our fan-ism? How is this any different than the hockey thread we have every season? Football is such a phenom around the world. What's the ratings during the Super Bowl? You think I'm the only one that likes football? It's a damn sport that America craves. If you call being a football fan creepy then you've never seen college football fans get their shit fucked up because their apart of a visiting team.

Didn't you follow Journey around like they were your own shit-bowl of happiness and fucked shit up because of a singer was lip singing due to health problems? You DID fight with one of Journey's fucking personal in the middle of a Vegas mall so you calling me or anybody else creepy in the NFL thread is downright fucking hilarious. Does it bother people that much when someone actually enjoys something or has a passion for something? haha :x
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:32 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Might not know it, but the Steelers have a LONG LIST of laundry of NFL apologies since I can remember. The NFL officials admits 2 wrong call against them in the Monday Night game.


NFL says officials made 2 wrong calls against Steelers
Friday, November 12, 2010
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


The Steelers have been informed by the National Football League that two penalties that almost cost them in Monday night's victory in Cincinnati should not have been called, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Coach Mike Tomlin sent a complaint to the league office earlier this week, challenging the roughing-the-passer penalty on nose tackle Casey Hampton and a pass interference penalty against cornerback Ike Taylor on back-to-back plays that allowed the Bengals to move to the Steelers 1 in the fourth quarter.

Two plays later, the Bengals scored on a 1-yard run by Cedric Benson to cut the Steelers lead to 27-21.

After Jeff Reed missed a 46-yard field goal that would have given the Steelers a nine-point lead, the Bengals drove to the Steelers 12 and had a chance to win the game until a fourth-down pass to rookie receiver Jordan Shipley was broken up by Taylor and linebacker James Harrison with 34 seconds remaining.

The league informed the Steelers the penalty against Hampton should not have been called because he hit quarterback Carson Palmer on the thigh, not below the knee or to the head, after an incomplete pass.

On the next play from the Steelers 21, Taylor was penalized for pass interference against Terrell Owens, a call that was made by the official in the back of the end zone, not the side judge who was right in front of the play on the left sideline. The league told the Steelers no penalty should have been called.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10316/11 ... z155aEfwMP


Funny...I didn't see you in here with a post the weekend the moronic officials handed Shitsburgh that Miami game complaining about how the call went in the Steelers favor!
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:35 am

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Rockindeano wrote:Dude, your obsession with the Fucking Steelers is downright creepy. There has to be more to life than Steeler football. Goddamn.


Huh? Lmao, really? Being a diehard Steelers fan OR football fan is now creepy all of a sudden? Is this not the NFL football thread to where we express our fan-ism? How is this any different than the hockey thread we have every season? Football is such a phenom around the world. What's the ratings during the Super Bowl? You think I'm the only one that likes football? It's a damn sport that America craves. If you call being a football fan creepy then you've never seen college football fans get their shit fucked up because their apart of a visiting team.

Didn't you follow Journey around like they were your own shit-bowl of happiness and fucked shit up because of a singer was lip singing due to health problems? You DID fight with one of Journey's fucking personal in the middle of a Vegas mall so you calling me or anybody else creepy in the NFL thread is downright fucking hilarious. Does it bother people that much when someone actually enjoys something or has a passion for something? haha :x


Jesus Christ dude, chill out. I was makinh a half hearted bullshit post...you know, a little humour thrown in? Then you fly off the handle at me. Goddamned dude, you defend football like a soldier defends the country. Relax.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:36 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Might not know it, but the Steelers have a LONG LIST of laundry of NFL apologies since I can remember. The NFL officials admits 2 wrong call against them in the Monday Night game.


NFL says officials made 2 wrong calls against Steelers
Friday, November 12, 2010
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


The Steelers have been informed by the National Football League that two penalties that almost cost them in Monday night's victory in Cincinnati should not have been called, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Coach Mike Tomlin sent a complaint to the league office earlier this week, challenging the roughing-the-passer penalty on nose tackle Casey Hampton and a pass interference penalty against cornerback Ike Taylor on back-to-back plays that allowed the Bengals to move to the Steelers 1 in the fourth quarter.

Two plays later, the Bengals scored on a 1-yard run by Cedric Benson to cut the Steelers lead to 27-21.

After Jeff Reed missed a 46-yard field goal that would have given the Steelers a nine-point lead, the Bengals drove to the Steelers 12 and had a chance to win the game until a fourth-down pass to rookie receiver Jordan Shipley was broken up by Taylor and linebacker James Harrison with 34 seconds remaining.

The league informed the Steelers the penalty against Hampton should not have been called because he hit quarterback Carson Palmer on the thigh, not below the knee or to the head, after an incomplete pass.

On the next play from the Steelers 21, Taylor was penalized for pass interference against Terrell Owens, a call that was made by the official in the back of the end zone, not the side judge who was right in front of the play on the left sideline. The league told the Steelers no penalty should have been called.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10316/11 ... z155aEfwMP


Funny...I didn't see you in here with a post the weekend the moronic officials handed Shitsburgh that Miami game complaining about how the call went in the Steelers favor!


I actually came right on and discussed it right away because there's nothing more than I hate than controversy to win football games. I'm just saying that all haters argument is that the refs hand Steelers calls when the Steelers have a mad list of apologies as well. Just a point that I always hated when it came to the refs.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:40 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Dude, your obsession with the Fucking Steelers is downright creepy. There has to be more to life than Steeler football. Goddamn.


Huh? Lmao, really? Being a diehard Steelers fan OR football fan is now creepy all of a sudden? Is this not the NFL football thread to where we express our fan-ism? How is this any different than the hockey thread we have every season? Football is such a phenom around the world. What's the ratings during the Super Bowl? You think I'm the only one that likes football? It's a damn sport that America craves. If you call being a football fan creepy then you've never seen college football fans get their shit fucked up because their apart of a visiting team.

Didn't you follow Journey around like they were your own shit-bowl of happiness and fucked shit up because of a singer was lip singing due to health problems? You DID fight with one of Journey's fucking personal in the middle of a Vegas mall so you calling me or anybody else creepy in the NFL thread is downright fucking hilarious. Does it bother people that much when someone actually enjoys something or has a passion for something? haha :x


Jesus Christ dude, chill out. I was makinh a half hearted bullshit post...you know, a little humour thrown in? Then you fly off the handle at me. Goddamned dude, you defend football like a soldier defends the country. Relax.


It is what it is, I have major fuckin problems when it comes to football, big deal. John even seems like the kind of nutbag like me when discussing the game. It's all good. Born and bred as a player and a fan, always in a family to where putting the food on the table wasn't easy so when it came to something to get our mind off of things in a household, it was football. Nothing wrong with that to leave the real world for 2 hours a day mixed with passion.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:41 am

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Very rarely does the Steelers secondary get beat deep with a pass 20 yards or more downfield. The Steelers corners are designed to keep the yardage in front of them, and they WILL give up those yards, but coming up and being a great tackler is key so we don't give up Y.A.C.


Sorry dude, but some of your babblings make it sound like you know nothing about football. You need to pull the Steelers dildo out of your ass and get back to reality :shock: Just because a team doesn't get beat down the field (and Pittsburgh is barely in the top 10 in that category, so they're not as great as you claim they are) doesn't mean they have great corners. The reality is that the Steelers front 7 puts more pressure on the QB than any other front 7 in football. You can have the shittiest corners on the planet and not give up big plays if the opposing QB has no time to throw the ball down the field. It's interesting to note that in spite of how great you thing the Steelers secondary is, they are ranked 24th against the pass out of 32 teams. Just for perspective, the Patriots secondary is awful, and they're 29th against the pass.
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