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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:22 am

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Manpenis goes for 2, Brownies win that game.....


Wow, how easy of an arm chair QB to make :lol: S2M always going with the hypothetical and after the fact. Mangini has brought that Browns team back from the dead and the right thing to do in the situation as a football team is play for overtime, you know, against a team you weren't even supposed to beat? By the way the Jets were playing, I'm sure a 2point conversion NEVER, EVER crossed his mind and had his team geared up to go in it in "extra innings" because they sure as hell had a chance to win that game in O.T at that point in time.

Why put everything on a 2point conversion try that doesn't always work out in the offensive favor? Stop reaching for straws, the only call to make as a coach is kick the extra point and be hopeful in O.T. Bellichick wouldn't of even went for 2 and he's famous for his "4th and 1" stages.


With Hillis in the backfield you can't get 2 yards? Please....he was playing not to lose, not playing to win. And Belichick would have went for the 2. That is totally an ego call...Belichick has brass balls. Mangini has grapes. Even Ryan would've had the ego to go for 2....ever hear that guy's pressers? He actually thinks he is the best coach in the league, and the jets are actually THAT good.... :roll:


Ryan is awesome. He is a top 3 coach to be sure and like he said, his team IS 7-2. he'll take that any day.
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Postby S2M » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:27 am

Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Manpenis goes for 2, Brownies win that game.....


Wow, how easy of an arm chair QB to make :lol: S2M always going with the hypothetical and after the fact. Mangini has brought that Browns team back from the dead and the right thing to do in the situation as a football team is play for overtime, you know, against a team you weren't even supposed to beat? By the way the Jets were playing, I'm sure a 2point conversion NEVER, EVER crossed his mind and had his team geared up to go in it in "extra innings" because they sure as hell had a chance to win that game in O.T at that point in time.

Why put everything on a 2point conversion try that doesn't always work out in the offensive favor? Stop reaching for straws, the only call to make as a coach is kick the extra point and be hopeful in O.T. Bellichick wouldn't of even went for 2 and he's famous for his "4th and 1" stages.


With Hillis in the backfield you can't get 2 yards? Please....he was playing not to lose, not playing to win. And Belichick would have went for the 2. That is totally an ego call...Belichick has brass balls. Mangini has grapes. Even Ryan would've had the ego to go for 2....ever hear that guy's pressers? He actually thinks he is the best coach in the league, and the jets are actually THAT good.... :roll:


Ryan is awesome. He is a top 3 coach to be sure and like he said, his team IS 7-2. he'll take that any day.



Yep, and Minny was 15-1 in '98...Atlanta took 'em behind the woodshed....lol

Gary Anderson caught a case of the lefties, or it would have been Minny-Denver....lol
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:50 am

An early look at next weekend's biggest games:

• Oakland (5-4) at Pittsburgh (6-3): A big test for the resurgent Raiders.

• Indianapolis (6-3) at New England (7-2): Manning versus Brady. Enough said.

• N.Y. Giants (6-3) at Philadelphia (5-3): The pivotal game in the NFC East? Maybe.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:06 am

The Browns were dominated in time of possession, total yardage, and yards per play. ManDumbFuck should have gone for two.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:09 am

S2M wrote:Memo to reast of the league:

NE won't lose another game this year....



I guarantee you the Patriots won't only lose again, but will lose more than once. This team is good but they're certainly not close to unbeatable!
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:28 am

S2M wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Manpenis goes for 2, Brownies win that game.....


Wow, how easy of an arm chair QB to make :lol: S2M always going with the hypothetical and after the fact. Mangini has brought that Browns team back from the dead and the right thing to do in the situation as a football team is play for overtime, you know, against a team you weren't even supposed to beat? By the way the Jets were playing, I'm sure a 2point conversion NEVER, EVER crossed his mind and had his team geared up to go in it in "extra innings" because they sure as hell had a chance to win that game in O.T at that point in time.

Why put everything on a 2point conversion try that doesn't always work out in the offensive favor? Stop reaching for straws, the only call to make as a coach is kick the extra point and be hopeful in O.T. Bellichick wouldn't of even went for 2 and he's famous for his "4th and 1" stages.


With Hillis in the backfield you can't get 2 yards? Please....he was playing not to lose, not playing to win. And Belichick would have went for the 2. That is totally an ego call...Belichick has brass balls. Mangini has grapes. Even Ryan would've had the ego to go for 2....ever hear that guy's pressers? He actually thinks he is the best coach in the league, and the jets are actually THAT good.... :roll:


Ryan is awesome. He is a top 3 coach to be sure and like he said, his team IS 7-2. he'll take that any day.



Yep, and Minny was 15-1 in '98...Atlanta took 'em behind the woodshed....lol

Gary Anderson caught a case of the lefties, or it would have been Minny-Denver....lol



vikings/broncos would've been a hell of a super bowl matchup.the falcons got lucky anderson missed.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:59 pm

The Pats are looking at 11-5 or 12-4. In the AFC, 13 wins would guarantee home field. Don't count out the Mannings yet - they've reeled off 10-game streaks routinely the past seven or eight years. I'm still not sold on the Jets and Ravens - Dirty Sanchez and Joe Flaccid just aren't big-game quarterbacks. It will come down to the Colts, Patriots, and Steelers, with the winner of the AFC West guaranteed to get trounced in the first round.

The Giants can be the best team in football IF they all show up. I hate them, but they played their worst game of the season on Sunday against the Cowgirls, and still would have won if it weren't for a couple of horrendous holding calls on touchdowns. If the Eagles decide to actually play D they will be impossible to beat, but I don't see that happening for three or four straight games in the playoffs. The Packers and Saints are still the favorites for me.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:04 pm

S2M wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Manpenis goes for 2, Brownies win that game.....


Wow, how easy of an arm chair QB to make :lol: S2M always going with the hypothetical and after the fact. Mangini has brought that Browns team back from the dead and the right thing to do in the situation as a football team is play for overtime, you know, against a team you weren't even supposed to beat? By the way the Jets were playing, I'm sure a 2point conversion NEVER, EVER crossed his mind and had his team geared up to go in it in "extra innings" because they sure as hell had a chance to win that game in O.T at that point in time.

Why put everything on a 2point conversion try that doesn't always work out in the offensive favor? Stop reaching for straws, the only call to make as a coach is kick the extra point and be hopeful in O.T. Bellichick wouldn't of even went for 2 and he's famous for his "4th and 1" stages.


With Hillis in the backfield you can't get 2 yards? Please....he was playing not to lose, not playing to win. And Belichick would have went for the 2. That is totally an ego call...Belichick has brass balls. Mangini has grapes. Even Ryan would've had the ego to go for 2....ever hear that guy's pressers? He actually thinks he is the best coach in the league, and the jets are actually THAT good.... :roll:


How the FUCK do you play to lose and not to win on a God damn extra point to send it into overtime? The Browns are not the same team to just beat around and have their way with, they were in the game, went downfield, and got the game tying touchdown. No way, no how does ANY coach risk going for two at that time to lay all the chips there. Take what the game gives you and survive another day. Take the OVERTIME and win in an extra period. ANY coach kicks the point after there, very rarely does ANY coach go for two unless they ultimately HAVE to. There aren't too many play calls within a two point conversion, esp at the end of regulation. Take the point and gear up for O.T. No way he played not to lose., it's not like he took a FG and not throwing it in the endzone, it was an extra point to send it to overtime!
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Postby Don » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:15 pm

Apparently, The Redskins have a safety valve in that new McNabb contract. Still risky if he gets a season/career ending injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:36 pm

Don wrote:Apparently, The Redskins have a safety valve in that new McNabb contract. Still risky if he gets a season/career ending injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371


Who knows what's in contracts. I'm sure there is stuff in there that noone knows about other than player and owner.
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Postby Jonny B » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:56 am

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Don wrote:Apparently, The Redskins have a safety valve in that new McNabb contract. Still risky if he gets a season/career ending injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371


Who knows what's in contracts. I'm sure there is stuff in there that noone knows about other than player and owner.


I've always speculated that a majority of a pro contract is tied up in health insurance. The athlete probably only keeps guaranteed money + endorsements.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:57 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
Don wrote:Apparently, The Redskins have a safety valve in that new McNabb contract. Still risky if he gets a season/career ending injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371


Who knows what's in contracts. I'm sure there is stuff in there that noone knows about other than player and owner.


I've always speculated that a majority of a pro contract is tied up in health insurance. The athlete probably only keeps guaranteed money + endorsements.


What do you even mean by "tied up in health insurance?"
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Postby Maui Tom » Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:44 am

serious question...Schaub or Troy Smith?

Schaub at Jets....Smith at home to Tampa...
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:55 am

Maui Tom wrote:serious question...Schaub or Troy Smith?

Schaub at Jets....Smith at home to Tampa...



Tough call on this one. The Jets are ranked 14th against the pass but have only given up 13 passing TD's on the season. Tampa is actually ranked 8th against the pass but has given up 15 passing TD's on the season. Schaub is also a bit banged up this week, so you may have to factor that into the equation as well. If it were me, I'd probably go with Troy Smith this week.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:58 am

i'd go with troy smith too.schaub just got out of hospital now he faces a tough jets defense on the road.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:11 am

anyone forget about the bears/dolphins tonight?


The Chicago Bears appear to be catching Miami at the right time with the Dolphins expecting to start third-string quarterback Tyler Thigpen and only having a few days to get him ready.

Miami, however, has proven it can still win regardless of who lines up under center, or in the wildcat.

The Bears look to frustrate the inexperienced quarterback and move into sole possession of first place in the NFC North on Thursday night when they visit the Dolphins, who received a surprisingly solid performance from Thigpen in their Week 10 victory.

Miami's top two quarterbacks were injured in Sunday's 29-17 win over Tennessee. Hoping to give a spark to an offense that entered last weekend ranked last in the AFC with 17.9 points per game, Dolphins coach Tony Sparano gave the nod at quarterback to Chad Pennington, who hadn't played since a shoulder injury ended his 2009 season in Week 3.

Pennington's return lasted two plays before he left with a season-ending right shoulder injury. Chad Henne, Miami's starter for the first eight games, then took over before leaving in the third quarter with a left knee injury.

The short week of preparation made it less likely Henne would be able to recover enough to start for the Dolphins (5-4). He was listed as doubtful Wednesday and might be available as an emergency quarterback.

Thigpen played well against the Titans despite getting little work in practice and having attempted six passes this season prior to Sunday.

After Henne's injury, the Dolphins first went with the wildcat and ran five straight plays out of that formation to move the ball 41 yards and set up a field goal. Miami then turned to Thigpen, and he went 4 for 6 for 64 yards, including a 9-yard touchdown pass to Anthony Fasano, on an 85-yard drive that sealed the victory.

The Dolphins, who scored a season high in points, are two games back of New England and the Jets in the AFC East.

"It's huge getting this win," Sparano said. "This is November. If you don't win in November, you've got no chance."

The Bears (6-3) have won their first two November games after going 1/3 in October and are tied atop the division with Green Bay.

Chicago's formidable defense has been instrumental to the team's success and will try to force Thigpen into making mistakes. The Bears, second in scoring defense at 16.2 points, fourth in total defense at 311.6 yards and first in turnovers with 24, intercepted Brett Favre three times in Sunday's 27-13 win over Minnesota.

The Dolphins could turn more to Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams and the ground game, but that also poses problems. Chicago is second in rush defense at 82.3 yards and limited All-Pro running back Adrian Peterson to a season-low 51 yards on 17 carries Sunday.

"We're right where we want to be," defensive end Israel Idonije said. "Momentum's building, we just have to keep this thing going."

Chicago's offense and special teams also appear to be moving in the right direction.

The Bears gained 360 yards against the Vikings -- their most since netting 463 against Detroit in Week 1 -- and Jay Cutler was sacked once for the second straight game. Chicago had surrendered 23 sacks in its four October games.

Devin Hester also provided a big lift Sunday, returning two punts for 47 yards and two kickoffs for 100 yards. Hester, the league leader with a 16.7 yard average on punt returns, was returning kicks for the first time this season.

"Devin has it going right now," coach Lovie Smith said. "Guys are doing a great job blocking for him. He's feeling it, of course."

The Bears, who already have two solid options in kick returners in Danieal Manning and Johnny Knox, are fourth in the league with an average of 26.8 yards per return. The return team could be poised to break one with Miami ranking 30th in the NFL in opponent kickoff return average at 26.6 yards.

This will be the first meeting between these teams since the Dolphins won 31-13 at Soldier Field on Nov. 5, 2006, handing Chicago its first defeat after a 7-0 start. The Bears went on to the Super Bowl that season and lost to Indianapolis in Miami.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:14 am

mikemarrs wrote:anyone forget about the bears/dolphins tonight?


The Chicago Bears appear to be catching Miami at the right time with the Dolphins expecting to start third-string quarterback Tyler Thigpen and only having a few days to get him ready.

Miami, however, has proven it can still win regardless of who lines up under center, or in the wildcat.

The Bears look to frustrate the inexperienced quarterback and move into sole possession of first place in the NFC North on Thursday night when they visit the Dolphins, who received a surprisingly solid performance from Thigpen in their Week 10 victory.

Miami's top two quarterbacks were injured in Sunday's 29-17 win over Tennessee. Hoping to give a spark to an offense that entered last weekend ranked last in the AFC with 17.9 points per game, Dolphins coach Tony Sparano gave the nod at quarterback to Chad Pennington, who hadn't played since a shoulder injury ended his 2009 season in Week 3.

Pennington's return lasted two plays before he left with a season-ending right shoulder injury. Chad Henne, Miami's starter for the first eight games, then took over before leaving in the third quarter with a left knee injury.

The short week of preparation made it less likely Henne would be able to recover enough to start for the Dolphins (5-4). He was listed as doubtful Wednesday and might be available as an emergency quarterback.

Thigpen played well against the Titans despite getting little work in practice and having attempted six passes this season prior to Sunday.

After Henne's injury, the Dolphins first went with the wildcat and ran five straight plays out of that formation to move the ball 41 yards and set up a field goal. Miami then turned to Thigpen, and he went 4 for 6 for 64 yards, including a 9-yard touchdown pass to Anthony Fasano, on an 85-yard drive that sealed the victory.

The Dolphins, who scored a season high in points, are two games back of New England and the Jets in the AFC East.

"It's huge getting this win," Sparano said. "This is November. If you don't win in November, you've got no chance."

The Bears (6-3) have won their first two November games after going 1/3 in October and are tied atop the division with Green Bay.

Chicago's formidable defense has been instrumental to the team's success and will try to force Thigpen into making mistakes. The Bears, second in scoring defense at 16.2 points, fourth in total defense at 311.6 yards and first in turnovers with 24, intercepted Brett Favre three times in Sunday's 27-13 win over Minnesota.

The Dolphins could turn more to Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams and the ground game, but that also poses problems. Chicago is second in rush defense at 82.3 yards and limited All-Pro running back Adrian Peterson to a season-low 51 yards on 17 carries Sunday.

"We're right where we want to be," defensive end Israel Idonije said. "Momentum's building, we just have to keep this thing going."

Chicago's offense and special teams also appear to be moving in the right direction.

The Bears gained 360 yards against the Vikings -- their most since netting 463 against Detroit in Week 1 -- and Jay Cutler was sacked once for the second straight game. Chicago had surrendered 23 sacks in its four October games.

Devin Hester also provided a big lift Sunday, returning two punts for 47 yards and two kickoffs for 100 yards. Hester, the league leader with a 16.7 yard average on punt returns, was returning kicks for the first time this season.

"Devin has it going right now," coach Lovie Smith said. "Guys are doing a great job blocking for him. He's feeling it, of course."

The Bears, who already have two solid options in kick returners in Danieal Manning and Johnny Knox, are fourth in the league with an average of 26.8 yards per return. The return team could be poised to break one with Miami ranking 30th in the NFL in opponent kickoff return average at 26.6 yards.

This will be the first meeting between these teams since the Dolphins won 31-13 at Soldier Field on Nov. 5, 2006, handing Chicago its first defeat after a 7-0 start. The Bears went on to the Super Bowl that season and lost to Indianapolis in Miami.


SHIT! THanks Mike. I almost forgot to pick this game in my Pick 'Em League.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:19 am

mikemarrs wrote:anyone forget about the bears/dolphins tonight?




Perhaps only the Dolphins but given how this season has gone, the Dolphins will either keep it close or win it outright. That said, Miami is down to a third string QB. I can't imagine Chicago's defense (who has more takeaways than ANY defense in the NFL) not exploiting that. I like Chicago so much this week, that I started their defense over Pittsburgh in my fantasy league! Bears by 17.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:29 pm

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Bears by 17.


I meant 16 :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:09 am

WOW that game was GOD awful. Dolphins down to their 3rd string QB and 4th string center :shock: going up against a Bears defense that is playing like they were in their Super Bowl season in '06, good luck! Game blew, glad I missed most of it.

WEEK 11 picks of the NFL:

Bills @ Bengals: The Bengals are a team that flat out beats themselves. You can't beat anyone when you beat yourselves, esp a team that's not that great anyhow. Still, they are in games 'til the end and should get a W here against the Bills, which their 1-8 record is deceiving. Bengals by 14.

Lions @ Cowboys: The Cowboys have found a little bit of edge and that throttle against the Giants, in THEIR stadium gives this team a boost under Garrett to finish off the season. They should get their first win at home this week. Cowboys by 8.

Redskins @ Titans: The Titans are another team that is beat up at the QB position, and Chris Johnson suffers the most because of it. The Redskins got the hardest whooping I've ever seen so I see them out to revenge that beatdown if they want to stay in the NFC East race. Redskins by 10.

Cardinals @ Chiefs: The Chiefs are a team that won't go away, and like many teams, are the new victims of out-right slaughters. The Cardinals are as bad as it is and the Chiefs got a defense that can keep the Cards at check and desperately need a re-bound week on the defensive side of the ball. Chiefs by 13.

Packers @ Vikings: From what I've seen of the Vikings this year, they look downright dreadful and are NOT a good team, esp with no receivers to provide a beat-up Favre to begin with. The Packers had a late bye week to get some things under wrap and should make a late-season push of one of the NFL's best teams. Packers by 20.

Texans @ Jets: The Jets have been going down to the BONE each week and have been quite lucky to come out with W's this season. Luck is something you need in the NFL and football in general, so I think that luck runs out against a Texans team that is still searching. Texans by 6.

Raiders @ Steelers: Shaping up to be a great game. The Raiders are a good football team this season. I expect the Steelers to respond like champions and do what the good teams do in this league after a bad week: come out and crush a team you should beat EVERY TIME, esp at home. Scary territory since we've seen this story before, but that loss is fresh off our minds last year and we won't take Oakland lightly. Steelers by 14.

Ravens @ Panthers: Brian St. Pierre gets the start for Carolina? My lord. Ravens by 28.

Browns @ Jags: The Browns and Jags have been those two teams in the AFC that are finding their edge. The Browns are now a fun team to watch with McCoy under center, and the Jags are hanging in a tough division. Should be a good game, but I like the Jags in this one at home. Jags by 7.

Bucs @ 49'ers: Yawn, the 9'ers are finding a spark from former Heisman winner Troy Smith, but they remain a team that doesn't have the talent to compete consistently weekly. The Bucs on the other hand have a QB on the rise and is DANGEROUS, as well as a tough hard nosed runner in Blount. Bucs by 10.

Seahawks @ Saints: The Champs are looking back in form and have a Seahawks team that's off-and- on each other week. That inconsistent play just won't get it done against Drew Brees and a Gregg Williams defense, not to mention Reggie Bush set to return. Saints by 17.

Falcons @ Rams: The Falcons are playing playoff ball right now and may be the NFC's best team in the playoffs when all said and done. The Rams will be a tough test, but won't be able to man up against Matty Ice and Roddy White. Falcons by 14.

Colts @ Patriots: NFL game of the week. Nothing needs to be said about the two QB's headlining both teams, so I'm just going to be straight forward in this rivarly of hate. Colts by 10.

Giants @ Eagles: Again, the Giants are a team that needs to respond. Unfortunately, they are going up against the BEST player, bar-none, hands down, in the National Football League. Michael Vick. Until Vick comes down from his super-hero performances, who would go against Philly? Eagles by 8.

Broncos @ Chargers: This is about the time S.D starts polishing off the league. Coming off a bye, this team is poised to make a run in, again, a pathetic division, and it starts with a big division matchup against the high-powered (atleast for a week) Broncos. Chargers by 13.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:49 am

Doesn't that jackass Hines Ward even watch film? What a fucking tool!

http://www.nesn.com/2010/11/hines-ward- ... lprit.html
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:02 am

Enigma869 wrote:Doesn't that jackass Hines Ward even watch film? What a fucking tool!

http://www.nesn.com/2010/11/hines-ward- ... lprit.html


I've heard the interview. Funny to what context of an article can make it sound like. Hines pretty much said no doubt it was helmet to helmet, but he doesn't think anyone should get fined over the hit because he thought it was clean and he was fine, but what does the league actually want? It's helmet to helmet, something the league is busting down on and we've heard for WEEKS that a flag will be thrown. No flag was thrown so the jist was "He's fine, but what does the league want?" He wasn't complaining or calling anyone out and even said he could "care less whether he (the defender) gets fined or not." And it's CLEARLY helmet to helmet, haha. It was a clean hit to my taste, no complaint from me, but if you're going to throw the law down via refs from helmet to helmet, throw it every time.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:28 am

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I've heard the interview. Funny to what context of an article can make it sound like. Hines pretty much said no doubt it was helmet to helmet, but he doesn't think anyone should get fined over the hit because he thought it was clean and he was fine, but what does the league actually want? It's helmet to helmet, something the league is busting down on and we've heard for WEEKS that a flag will be thrown. No flag was thrown so the jist was "He's fine, but what does the league want?" He wasn't complaining or calling anyone out and even said he could "care less whether he (the defender) gets fined or not." And it's CLEARLY helmet to helmet, haha. It was a clean hit to my taste, no complaint from me, but if you're going to throw the law down via refs from helmet to helmet, throw it every time.


That really wasn't my point Travis. My point is that Hines is babbling that Pat Chung should be fined and it was James Sanders' facemask that hit his helmet...not Chung! It definitely wasn't a dirty hit by Sanders, but per the NFL policy, it probably was fine-worthy. I would just hope that Hines would watch film on Monday like every other football player and actually know which guy hit him!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:37 pm

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I've heard the interview. Funny to what context of an article can make it sound like. Hines pretty much said no doubt it was helmet to helmet, but he doesn't think anyone should get fined over the hit because he thought it was clean and he was fine, but what does the league actually want? It's helmet to helmet, something the league is busting down on and we've heard for WEEKS that a flag will be thrown. No flag was thrown so the jist was "He's fine, but what does the league want?" He wasn't complaining or calling anyone out and even said he could "care less whether he (the defender) gets fined or not." And it's CLEARLY helmet to helmet, haha. It was a clean hit to my taste, no complaint from me, but if you're going to throw the law down via refs from helmet to helmet, throw it every time.


That really wasn't my point Travis. My point is that Hines is babbling that Pat Chung should be fined and it was James Sanders' facemask that hit his helmet...not Chung! It definitely wasn't a dirty hit by Sanders, but per the NFL policy, it probably was fine-worthy. I would just hope that Hines would watch film on Monday like every other football player and actually know which guy hit him!


Oh, okay, yeah. Hines def got the wrong dude but meh, no big deal. 8)
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Postby lights1961 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:03 am

This Packer Viking game makes me nervous... Rice comes back for the Vikes... and Brett ususally does well at the DOME...
and the Packers usually dont play well there....Packers have had the Bye week... so that might help... If Brett plays the game of his life... the Packers win... any interceptions or fumbles that the Packers can create against Brett will be a bonus...and the Packers will win. I dont see a 20 point win here at all... not at the Dome...and not with Syndey Rice back.

BTW... there are TWO very cool stories coming out about Lombardi...1. there is a broadway play out now in NY and 2nd an HBO flim documentary coming out soon about the legend of Vince Lombardi....

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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:54 am

Bills @ Bengals: Sadly, I think Buffalo actually may be a better team than the pathetic Bengals are. I also think that Buffalo blew their load last week and is prime to get trounced. I think the Bengals somehow manage to get out of their own way and easily win this one by three TD's.

Lions @ Cowboys:Unlike some delusional Cowgirl fans, I don't believe for one second that this team is running the table and going to the playoffs. I certainly think they're good enough to beat Detroit. Cowboys by 17.

Redskins @ Titans: With Philly and the Giants in the same division, the Redskins are already toast. Titans by a FG.

Cardinals @ Chiefs: I haven't been sold on the Chiefs all season and last week proved why. The crowd at Arrowhead is going to be fired up after that debacle last week against a bad Broncos team. Chiefs by 14.

Packers @ Vikings: Nothing would be more fitting than to have the Fudge Packers tuck it up Pussy Boy Favre's sphincter. Count on Favre throwing to the wrong color jersey yet again, and losing this one by a couple of TD's. Packers!

Texans @ Jets: This is the toughest game of the week for me because I'm not sold on either of these teams. If the Texans were a different kind of team, I'd be picking them by three TD's. Unfortunately (for Texans fans...if there is such a thing), they are the most inconsistent team in the NFL. Jets by a FG in OT.

Raiders @ Steelers: I've been in the VERY odd position this week of defending the Steelers. I've heard a bunch of yahoos on talk radio saying that the Steelers suck because of their performance last week. The Steelers may have sucked last week (as did the Patriots the week before), but they're still a very good team. They're not a "favorite" to win anything, but neither is any other team in the NFL this season. The Steelers are going to come out pissed and I feel bad for the Raiders this week. Steelers by three TD's.

Ravens @ Panthers: Carolina is fucking DREADUL. Ravens by 24.

Browns @ Jags: I actually see this as a very competitive game. The Browns are simply turning in very good performances week after week. I think the Jaguars have a bit of a letdown after last week's improbable win. Browns by a FG.

Bucs @ 49'ers: Don't believe the hype. Tampa isn't half as good as their record looks. The Niners may have found something with Troy Smith. Niners by 10.

Seahawks @ Saints: I see this one as complete domination by the Saints. Seattle just hasn't shown me anything this season. Saints by 20.

Falcons @ Rams: The Rams have been FAR more respectable than I thought they would be this season and I love the progress Bradford is making. That said, Atlanta simply has too much and the Rams aren't stopping Rowdy Roddy White. Falcons by 18.

Colts @ Patriots: The Colts need this game FAR more than the Patriots do. The Patriots are probably due for a letdown given last week's SUPERB performance, but I have a hunch that their letdown won't happen until Thanksgiving against the Lions. This simply isn't a good matchup for the Colts. Sure, they're 5-1 against the Patriots in the last 6 meetings, but most of those games have been on the carpet in a dome in Indy. This is in Foxboro, and the temperatures are going to be in the 30's. Also, the Colts have 3 losses this season and all 3 have been on the road. Meanwhile, Brady hasn't lost a game at home in three years. Patriots by 10.

Giants @ Eagles: Get ready for a track meet. This will be the highest scoring game of the weekend. I suspect it might become the Hakeem Nicks versus DeSean Jackson show. The Giants have been okay this season but have also had moments (like last week) where they simply look pathetic. Vick played a game for the ages last week. I suspect that both teams will come back to the middle but the Eagles win a close one by a FG.

Broncos @ Chargers: Here we go with San Diego's yearly run. In spite of everyone annointing Vick as the MVP after one great game, I think Rivers in the league MVP, thusfar. Dude is winning with absolutely nothing around him and putting up HUGE numbers. Chargers by 14.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:41 am

Enigma869 wrote:Raiders @ Steelers: I've been in the VERY odd position this week of defending the Steelers. I've heard a bunch of yahoos on talk radio saying that the Steelers suck because of their performance last week. The Steelers may have sucked last week (as did the Patriots the week before), but they're still a very good team. They're not a "favorite" to win anything, but neither is any other team in the NFL this season. The Steelers are going to come out pissed and I feel bad for the Raiders this week. Steelers by three TD's.

I like Peter King's prediction better. Plus he doesn't care how high the Patriots draft with Oaklands pick! :wink:

Raiders 23 Steelers 21

Oakland Raiders (5-4) at Pittsburgh Steelers (6-3)

The more I think this can't happen, and that the Steelers have to win a game they need badly in the wake of the New England debacle, the more I think: Who's going to block Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly? I can't come up with an answer -- at least not an answer for 60 Pittsburgh offensive plays.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:02 am

RedWingFan wrote:I like Peter King's prediction better. Plus he doesn't care how high the Patriots draft with Oaklands pick! :wink:



You got me there bud :lol: Truth be told, I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders won by three TD's. This is the most unpredictable season I've ever seen in all the decades I've been following the NFL. As for that draft pick, I'm done pining away for a high pick. At this point, the Raiders have proven that they're (finally) not one of the shitty teams in the NFL, so it's definitely not going to be a really high pick. That said, it will still be a hell of a lot higher than the Patriots own first round pick, so I'll take it.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:14 am

Enigma869 wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I like Peter King's prediction better. Plus he doesn't care how high the Patriots draft with Oaklands pick! :wink:



You got me there bud :lol: Truth be told, I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders won by three TD's. This is the most unpredictable season I've ever seen in all the decades I've been following the NFL. As for that draft pick, I'm done pining away for a high pick. At this point, the Raiders have proven that they're (finally) not one of the shitty teams in the NFL, so it's definitely not going to be a really high pick. That said, it will still be a hell of a lot higher than the Patriots own first round pick, so I'll take it.


You ain't kidding re: the unpredictability. My pick 'em league is a total disaster for all involved. You simply cannot call the games this year.
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:44 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I like Peter King's prediction better. Plus he doesn't care how high the Patriots draft with Oaklands pick! :wink:



You got me there bud :lol: Truth be told, I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders won by three TD's. This is the most unpredictable season I've ever seen in all the decades I've been following the NFL. As for that draft pick, I'm done pining away for a high pick. At this point, the Raiders have proven that they're (finally) not one of the shitty teams in the NFL, so it's definitely not going to be a really high pick. That said, it will still be a hell of a lot higher than the Patriots own first round pick, so I'll take it.


You ain't kidding re: the unpredictability. My pick 'em league is a total disaster for all involved. You simply cannot call the games this year.


This is one crazy year. I'm not surprised anymore when the underdog wins. It's a lot more fun this way, really.
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