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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:49 am

I wasn't aware those two psychotic headhunters had been fined. Baltimore, led by Ray Lewis, took over the reins as the cheap shot artists of the NFL in the mid-90's, and nothing has changed since. The mob mentality of that team transcends even the most over-the-top win-at-all-costs approach dictated by old-school coaches.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:11 am

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YoungJRNY wrote: Brady is on fire, but you figure he'd at LEAST have a good day and not great, lol.


Given that the weather is supposed to be snow with wind gusts exceeding 50mph, I don't that it's really going out on a limb to say that the only player on either side who could have a "great" game in such conditions would be a running back. It's tough to pass the ball when the wind is that strong. Hell, an extra point is no guarantee in wind conditions like that. Whatever the over/under is on this game, take the under and bet the house on it!


Did I not tell you fucksluts earlier this week, that it's easier to throw in the snow? The offense KNOWS where to cut and where the ball is going, whereas the defense must react. So far, Brady is 10-12, 112 yds and a couple TD's....21-0. That game is already over. folks.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:39 am

Turn out the lights, the party's over! If there is a team out there that could bring down the Patriots at the moment, I'd love to atleast MAYBE listen. Until then, everyone not named a New England fan needs to sit the fuck down and wait to see if ANYONE can come close to even challenging New England. The Steelers defense, the Jets defense, and Bears defense. What better defense is out there can New England embarrass and humiliate? It's pretty safe to say that N.E shouldn't be televised nationally anymore, no fan other than a Patriots fan likes to see non competitive mercy's, haha. WOW, this team is unstoppable right now.
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Postby S2M » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:41 am

I told that NE was the class of the NFL. And they would not lose another game after the Cleveland debacle. Brady is the MVP. NE will win their 4th SB....book it!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:42 am

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YoungJRNY wrote: Brady is on fire, but you figure he'd at LEAST have a good day and not great, lol.


Given that the weather is supposed to be snow with wind gusts exceeding 50mph, I don't that it's really going out on a limb to say that the only player on either side who could have a "great" game in such conditions would be a running back. It's tough to pass the ball when the wind is that strong. Hell, an extra point is no guarantee in wind conditions like that. Whatever the over/under is on this game, take the under and bet the house on it!


Did I not tell you fucksluts earlier this week, that it's easier to throw in the snow? The offense KNOWS where to cut and where the ball is going, whereas the defense must react. So far, Brady is 10-12, 112 yds and a couple TD's....21-0. That game is already over. folks.


Yep, the Bears offense KNOWS where to cut so much that they are getting beat 33-0 with fumbles, dropped pass's and God knows what else. New England continues to punk "contenders" weekly with ease. N.E miss's an extra point and Bellichick goes CRAZY. Aw shit, watch New England score 40 MORE points on top of 33 now. :shock: :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:44 am

S2M wrote:I told that NE was the class of the NFL. And they would not lose another game after the Cleveland debacle. Brady is the MVP. NE will win their 4th SB....book it!


You were booking that 19-0 4th Super Bowl trophy as well. Right now, in the regular season, noone can beat New England. Teams in the AFC just have to pray if there even IS a God that New England somehow comes out flat and if it's true that you have to step it up 5 extra notch's in the playoffs because New England is simply F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S. They can't make mistakes even if they tried.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:50 am

Fuck you, Trav...Ever heard of Atlanta, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Those teams can definitely beat NE.

You keep talking as if Pittsburgh is the ONLY team that can stop the Pats...The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:52 am

YoungJRNY wrote:New England is simply F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S. They can't make mistakes even if they tried.


You know better than that, dude. The Patriots have plenty of flaws. Honestly, I'm still baffled by this team. On paper, they really shouldn't be close to this good. This team simply defies logic. While I don't disagree with Dean's point that the offense usually has an advantage in the snow, this isn't just snow. It's insane wind and as far as I can tell, Chicago's offense doesn't seem to have any advantage in the snow. As we all know, ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs. What I do know is that this New England team has taken on all comers and beat every good team in the NFL this season. I suspect they've probably played more teams with a winning record than any team in the NFL.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:54 am

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The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.


I couldn't agree more Dean. I didn't feel that way earlier in the season about the Steelers, but I've seen them play a lot this season and that team doesn't scare me, even a little. Again, anything can happen in the playoffs, but I would be stunned if Pittsburgh got very far in the playoffs.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:56 am

Rockindeano wrote:Fuck you, Trav...Ever heard of Atlanta, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Those teams can definitely beat NE.

You keep talking as if Pittsburgh is the ONLY team that can stop the Pats...The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.


To my understanding dude, the Eagles, Falcons and Saints play in the NFC. I never ONCE said that Pittsburgh (the Pats beat them already 39-26 and it wasn't even that close) is the only team that can take down the Pats. Within my thread above, how in the fuck did you grasp at that?! :roll: Like I said, the Patriots HUMILIATED the Jets defense, the Steelers defense, and are in the process of with putting their hand up Chicago's sphincter. I just said that everyone needs to sit down and the AFC (the Steelers are in the AFC) needs to pray that a team in the playoffs could atleast CHALLENGE New England. Please read before you reply directly from my post.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:06 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:New England is simply F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S. They can't make mistakes even if they tried.


You know better than that, dude. The Patriots have plenty of flaws. .


Since Thanksgiving, the Pats have outscored opponents like, 110 to 3 or something like that. Please tell me the flaws within that stat :? I know their defense is statistically BAD, but every game I've watched them over the weeks, they come up with picks, fumbles, pick 6's, whatever in crucial times. I mean since that Cleveland thrashing, N.E has been nothing but sleeping giants from then on out.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:07 am

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Rockindeano wrote:Fuck you, Trav...Ever heard of Atlanta, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Those teams can definitely beat NE.

You keep talking as if Pittsburgh is the ONLY team that can stop the Pats...The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.


To my understanding dude, the Eagles, Falcons and Saints play in the NFC. I never ONCE said that Pittsburgh (the Pats beat them already 39-26 and it wasn't even that close) is the only team that can take down the Pats. Within my thread above, how in the fuck did you grasp at that?! :roll: Like I said, the Patriots HUMILIATED the Jets defense, the Steelers defense, and are in the process of with putting their hand up Chicago's sphincter. I just said that everyone needs to sit down and the AFC (the Steelers are in the AFC) needs to pray that a team in the playoffs could atleast CHALLENGE New England. Please read before you reply directly from my post.


Please don't insult my intelligence saying what conference Philadelphia, Atlanta and New Orleans play in. I KNOW that, BUT, to my knowledge, doesn't the AFC champ have to play the NFC champ for the Super Bowl? I believe a few years ago, the Pats were "unbeatable" too, and they lost to the NY Giants. Yeah I know, there was a holding call, right S2M? :roll: Anyway, the NFC is a stronger conference this year, and while the Pats can certainly score, they can also give upa shit ton of points too. All I am saying is that Cleveland got them, so they can lose to anybody. Annointing them Champs this early is fucking stupid.

As for "Pittsburgh," you always seem to work them in when suggesting a certain team can derail another. I hate to tell you this Trav, but the Steelers aren't as good as theit record indicates.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:16 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Fuck you, Trav...Ever heard of Atlanta, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Those teams can definitely beat NE.

You keep talking as if Pittsburgh is the ONLY team that can stop the Pats...The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.


To my understanding dude, the Eagles, Falcons and Saints play in the NFC. I never ONCE said that Pittsburgh (the Pats beat them already 39-26 and it wasn't even that close) is the only team that can take down the Pats. Within my thread above, how in the fuck did you grasp at that?! :roll: Like I said, the Patriots HUMILIATED the Jets defense, the Steelers defense, and are in the process of with putting their hand up Chicago's sphincter. I just said that everyone needs to sit down and the AFC (the Steelers are in the AFC) needs to pray that a team in the playoffs could atleast CHALLENGE New England. Please read before you reply directly from my post.


Please don't insult my intelligence saying what conference Philadelphia, Atlanta and New Orleans play in. I KNOW that, BUT, to my knowledge, doesn't the AFC champ have to play the NFC champ for the Super Bowl? I believe a few years ago, the Pats were "unbeatable" too, and they lost to the NY Giants. Yeah I know, there was a holding call, right S2M? :roll: Anyway, the NFC is a stronger conference this year, and while the Pats can certainly score, they can also give upa shit ton of points too. All I am saying is that Cleveland got them, so they can lose to anybody. Annointing them Champs this early is fucking stupid.

As for "Pittsburgh," you always seem to work them in when suggesting a certain team can derail another. I hate to tell you this Trav, but the Steelers aren't as good as theit record indicates.


Is all the stuff like this that is the reasons bookies make a fortune!

All that matters is the W...it doesn't matter how you get there...as long as you get there.

Deano your slightly pathological hatred of all thing Pittsburgh is understandable given the Super Bowl loss your team took a few years back, and while I think you are right to a degree that record is always indicative of how truly good a team is, in the end the Steelers tend to play there best football in the playoffs.

All that being said...it doesn't look like ANYONE is stopping the Pats.

The Steelers offense is not exacly rolling, but their D is good...so maybe ala the 2000 Ravens they can make the big dance...but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:16 am

Please don't insult my intelligence saying what conference Philadelphia, Atlanta and New Orleans play in. I KNOW that, BUT, to my knowledge, doesn't the AFC champ have to play the NFC champ for the Super Bowl?


Again, I know this. I wasn't talking about the "Super Bowl." I'm talking about the AFC playoffs! Again, please read before you reply directly to me. You're a nice flip flopper. In one sentence you're talking about how the "Eagles, Falcons, and Saints can beat New England in the Super Bowl" then turn around and say "anointing them champs this early is fucking stupid." Which brings me to my next point. I never annoited them champs. If, again, you have read what I said, I'm actually agreeing with you and saying that even though New England might not be beatable RIGHT NOW in the regular season, that it's going to take a playoff team to oust them, plain and simple. Man, is it that hard to comprehend what I'm saying (it's just a couple posts up) or do you just want to argue against things I don't even say?


I believe a few years ago, the Pats were "unbeatable" too, and they lost to the NY Giants.


Already pointed it out to S2M's post.

As for "Pittsburgh," you always seem to work them in when suggesting a certain team can derail another.I hate to tell you this Trav, but the Steelers aren't as good as theit record indicates.


Okay? Sorry dude, it's YOU who's working in the Steelers in this conversation and twisting my words. The ONLY thing I said about Pittsburgh is that they were one of the "great defense's" New England has humiliated. Again, please point out to where I said that the Steelers are better than their record and that Pittsburgh is the ONLY one that could beat New England. In fact, John can clarify what I said WEEKS ago that I fear no other team in the playoffs than New England! Damn dude.
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Postby Don » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:46 am

The Chargers aren't playing exactly well but the KC offense is just totally inept. With the Raiders losing today, it's the Chief's division to lose and they just might do that.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:47 am

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All that matters is the W...it doesn't matter how you get there...as long as you get there.


Absolutely. Any W in the NFL should be cherished no matter WHAT they look like. Ask any team that's ever missed the post-season.

Steelers tend to play there best football in the playoffs.


Pretty much a dead on statement. You'll never see the Steelers leading the league offensively maybe other than rushing. Their defense won them 6 championships and it's no different this year in the up-coming 2010 playoffs. The Steelers offense hasn't been balanced since pretty much 2005. Since then, their o-line has almost gotten their QB killed over the years and have one of the worst scoring offense's in the league, esp in the redzone, but they won a Super Bowl with a terrible offense and just keep winning. Ben's record in the playoffs is like 9-2 or so, just behind Brady's untouchable record at this point.

All that being said...it doesn't look like ANYONE is stopping the Pats.


As or RIGHT NOW, nope, and it's pretty damn CLEAR.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:05 am

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Rockindeano wrote:Fuck you, Trav...Ever heard of Atlanta, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Those teams can definitely beat NE.

You keep talking as if Pittsburgh is the ONLY team that can stop the Pats...The Steelers are not a serious contender for the Super Bowl....not with their anemic offense.


To my understanding dude, the Eagles, Falcons and Saints play in the NFC. I never ONCE said that Pittsburgh (the Pats beat them already 39-26 and it wasn't even that close) is the only team that can take down the Pats. Within my thread above, how in the fuck did you grasp at that?! :roll: Like I said, the Patriots HUMILIATED the Jets defense, the Steelers defense, and are in the process of with putting their hand up Chicago's sphincter. I just said that everyone needs to sit down and the AFC (the Steelers are in the AFC) needs to pray that a team in the playoffs could atleast CHALLENGE New England. Please read before you reply directly from my post.


Please don't insult my intelligence saying what conference Philadelphia, Atlanta and New Orleans play in. I KNOW that, BUT, to my knowledge, doesn't the AFC champ have to play the NFC champ for the Super Bowl? I believe a few years ago, the Pats were "unbeatable" too, and they lost to the NY Giants. Yeah I know, there was a holding call, right S2M? :roll: Anyway, the NFC is a stronger conference this year, and while the Pats can certainly score, they can also give upa shit ton of points too. All I am saying is that Cleveland got them, so they can lose to anybody. Annointing them Champs this early is fucking stupid.

As for "Pittsburgh," you always seem to work them in when suggesting a certain team can derail another. I hate to tell you this Trav, but the Steelers aren't as good as theit record indicates.


Is all the stuff like this that is the reasons bookies make a fortune!

All that matters is the W...it doesn't matter how you get there...as long as you get there.

Deano your slightly pathological hatred of all thing Pittsburgh is understandable given the Super Bowl loss your team took a few years back, and while I think you are right to a degree that record is always indicative of how truly good a team is, in the end the Steelers tend to play there best football in the playoffs.

All that being said...it doesn't look like ANYONE is stopping the Pats.

The Steelers offense is not exacly rolling, but their D is good...so maybe ala the 2000 Ravens they can make the big dance...but I wouldn't bet on it.


I DO NOT hate Pittsburgh at all. I would live there in a minute. I love the way the town is structured, the people, the work ethic, it is to my liking, very blue collar, democratic town. I actually like the Pens quite a bit. Can't wait til they play in front of 75 thousand on New Years Day at Heinz Field. Is that sold out? Should be with Ovechkin in town...hate that Russian cocksucker.

And you are right...The Steelers are what, 10-3? They deserve it... I DO hate them because of that Super Bowl with the Seahawks.
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Postby Don » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:06 am

Chiefs finish with 67 yards of offense and that's with no turnovers. They just sucked.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:10 am

Don wrote:Chiefs finish with 67 yards of offense and that's with no turnovers. They just sucked.


Dude, they had a "walk on" QB playing for them today. What did you expect? Anyway, the Chargers win that division.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:13 am

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YoungJRNY wrote: Doesn't matter. San Diego will win by 17 points or more.


KC - 38
SD - 17


I informed you thusly. :P :lol:
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Postby Maui Tom » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:13 am

see the douche on Jets sideline trip the dolphin dude on a punt?

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Postby Don » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:15 am

San Diego wins by 31 points, their defense strengthens it's #1 ranking and Cassel watches his season slip away.
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Postby Don » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:20 am

And down goes Sanchez!
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:28 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
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YoungJRNY wrote: Doesn't matter. San Diego will win by 17 points or more.


KC - 38
SD - 17


I informed you thusly. :P :lol:


You owe me 1.49 for the entire bottle of Coke I just spit out. This was spot on funny shit. That guy is either bitching about officiating or making ridiculous predictions.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:29 am

Don wrote:San Diego wins by 31 points, their defense strengthens it's #1 ranking and Cassel watches his season slip away.


This floors me and should surprise EVERYONRE here. The Super Chargers are ranked number 1 in defense, and number 2 in offense, yet they are 7-6. Special teams, anyone?
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:31 am

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Don wrote:San Diego wins by 31 points, their defense strengthens it's #1 ranking and Cassel watches his season slip away.


This floors me and should surprise EVERYONRE here. The Super Chargers are ranked number 1 in defense, and number 2 in offense, yet they are 7-6. Special teams, anyone?

That's as good a case as any to avoid switching OT to the College system that you advocated awhile back! :wink:
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:38 am

KC still has one more win than SD. The Chiefs could EASILY win out. The Chargers have NO shot at the wild card.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:38 am

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Don wrote:San Diego wins by 31 points, their defense strengthens it's #1 ranking and Cassel watches his season slip away.


This floors me and should surprise EVERYONRE here. The Super Chargers are ranked number 1 in defense, and number 2 in offense, yet they are 7-6. Special teams, anyone?

That's as good a case as any to avoid switching OT to the College system that you advocated awhile back! :wink:


Why thank you. The college system is heads and shoulders better than the ridiculous coin flip OT rules in the NFL. The NFL is horseshit when it comes to this crap.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:01 am

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Rockindeano wrote:
Don wrote:San Diego wins by 31 points, their defense strengthens it's #1 ranking and Cassel watches his season slip away.


This floors me and should surprise EVERYONRE here. The Super Chargers are ranked number 1 in defense, and number 2 in offense, yet they are 7-6. Special teams, anyone?

That's as good a case as any to avoid switching OT to the College system that you advocated awhile back! :wink:


Why thank you. The college system is heads and shoulders better than the ridiculous coin flip OT rules in the NFL. The NFL is horseshit when it comes to this crap.

I wasn't agreeing with you. This stat shows how important special teams is. Special teams shouldn't be legislated out of overtime.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:03 am

RedWingFan wrote:I wasn't agreeing with you.


Well fuck you then. :P
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