OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[YoungJRNY]

Terrell Suggs says Brees is "Better than Manning and Brady", and then goes on to make the most moronic comment about Brees' superiority by saying "He's got the hardware to prove it". Someone needs to remind Suggs that Brees doesn't have any more "hardware" than either Brady or Manning!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=n ... dy_manning

"Maybe it could be my personal vendetta against the other guys...."

Stopped reading after that. Obviously he has a personal agenda against those two QB's that burned him and his team for most of his career. He knows Manning and ESP Brady is amongst the best, if not EVER.

[S2M]

Terrell Suggs says Brees is "Better than Manning and Brady", and then goes on to make the most moronic comment about Brees' superiority by saying "He's got the hardware to prove it". Someone needs to remind Suggs that Brees doesn't have any more "hardware" than either Brady or Manning!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=n ... dy_manning

"Maybe it could be my personal vendetta against the other guys...."

Stopped reading after that. Obviously he has a personal agenda against those two QB's that burned him and his team for most of his career. He knows Manning and ESP Brady is amongst the best, if not EVER.

I like how a commentor beneath says that Brady isn't better because of the BIG names he has to throw to....Huh? What? And that Tom is a system QB. One question: Isn't every QB a system QB?

[Enigma869]

I like how a commentor beneath says that Brady isn't better because of the BIG names he has to throw to....Huh? What?

There isn't a QB of significance in the history of the NFL who has been surrounded by less offensive talent than Tom Brady. It's not even a debatable point. The guy won Super Bowls with David Givens, Jermaine Wiggins, Deion Branch, et. al.

And that Tom is a system QB. One question: Isn't every QB a system QB?

Absolutely! There isn't a QB in the history of the NFL who hasn't been a "system" QB.

[Seven Wishes2]

Suggs and his fellow cheap-shot artist thugs can blabber all the way to another non-Super Bowl season. Maybe he can team up with Ray Lewis and Romanowski and go around, arbitrarily taking baseball bats to random people's kneecaps for fun.

[YoungJRNY]

Suggs and his fellow cheap-shot artist thugs can blabber all the way to another non-Super Bowl season. Maybe he can team up with Ray Lewis and Romanowski and go around, arbitrarily taking baseball bats to random people's kneecaps for fun.

I like how every team we (as fans) refer to other teams around the league as "thugs." That marks about 30 of the 32 NFL teams as thugs (the two teams YET to be called thugs would be Buffalo & Carolina .) Cracks me up, haha.

[Seven Wishes2]

The only other team I've referred to in those terms is Philly.

[S2M]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?

Starting on Jan. 8 in the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs, instead of ending an overtime game, a field goal on the opening possession of OT will merely extend the contest. Although a touchdown by either team, at any time, wins the game, if the teams trade field goals, then the next team to score wins.


Confused?


Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

[YoungJRNY]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?



Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Dude, that defeats the purpose of the new O.T rule. The new O.T rule was ensured so BOTH teams have a chance at possessing the football to make it "fair." Wonder if that is allowed to onside, which would be retarded. Both teams should have the ball for good reason. More dramatics= bigger money and fanfare.

[S2M]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?



Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Dude, that defeats the purpose of the new O.T rule. The new O.T rule was ensured so BOTH teams have a chance at possessing the football to make it "fair." Wonder if that is allowed to onside, which would be retarded. Both teams should have the ball.

Travis, you are confusing chance, with actual possession. The opposing team does get a chance....and if the piss it away by turnover, or onside kick....oh well. Thems the breaks.

[YoungJRNY]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?



Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Dude, that defeats the purpose of the new O.T rule. The new O.T rule was ensured so BOTH teams have a chance at possessing the football to make it "fair." Wonder if that is allowed to onside, which would be retarded. Both teams should have the ball.

Travis, you are confusing chance, with actual possession. The opposing team does get a chance....and if the piss it away by turnover, or onside kick....oh well. Thems the breaks.

I can see it in the 2nd or 3rd overrtime without a doubt. Hell, in the AFC Championship game, if Bellicheat* goes for the onside kick, then that means he doesn't trust in his defense so N.E would be getting burned by the opposing offense to try such a thing. Even Bellicheat* wouldn't have the balls to call an onside in the Conference Title game when all the other team would need is a FG. If the other team somehow possess's the ball with good field position, forget it.. game over. I think with the new O.T rules, you need to put your defense in the best position to stop them at all cost VS chancing the game winning field position on a failed onside.

[Rockindeano]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?

Starting on Jan. 8 in the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs, instead of ending an overtime game, a field goal on the opening possession of OT will merely extend the contest. Although a touchdown by either team, at any time, wins the game, if the teams trade field goals, then the next team to score wins.


Confused?


Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Belichick would never kick the ball onsides...NO coach would do that in an OT game.

I LIKE the rules though. Beats the hell out of a coin toss.

[S2M]

The Hoodie isn't afraid to call any play at any time in any game.

Remember that Monday Night game against the Broncos a few years ago where NE was down one point in the fourth quarter? He chose to take a safety, on purpose in order to save clock. Genius. BTW, NE won that game.

[S2M]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?

Starting on Jan. 8 in the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs, instead of ending an overtime game, a field goal on the opening possession of OT will merely extend the contest. Although a touchdown by either team, at any time, wins the game, if the teams trade field goals, then the next team to score wins.


Confused?


Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Belichick would never kick the ball onsides...NO coach would do that in an OT game.

I LIKE the rules though. Beats the hell out of a coin toss.

Do not put it past any coach to do anything in overtime. I remember game where a coach won the OT coin toss, and DEFERRED the ball!!!

[Rockindeano]

The Hoodie isn't afraid to call any play at any time in any game.

Remember that Monday Night game against the Broncos a few years ago where NE was down one point in the fourth quarter? He chose to take a safety, on purpose in order to save clock. Genius. BTW, NE won that game.

Taking a safety against a meaningless game against the ponies is not the same as onsides kick against the Ravens in the AFC Championship game dude.

[Rockindeano]

Any thoughts resident NFL experts?

Starting on Jan. 8 in the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs, instead of ending an overtime game, a field goal on the opening possession of OT will merely extend the contest. Although a touchdown by either team, at any time, wins the game, if the teams trade field goals, then the next team to score wins.


Confused?


Wait until Bill Belichick follows a field goal in overtime in the AFC Championship Game by recovering an onside kick. (Game over.)

Belichick would never kick the ball onsides...NO coach would do that in an OT game.

I LIKE the rules though. Beats the hell out of a coin toss.

Do not put it past any coach to do anything in overtime. I remember game where a coach won the OT coin toss, and DEFERRED the ball!!!

LOL, wasn't that McNabb last year against the bengals? It wasn't the coach, it was that dumbfuck McNabb. He thought BOTH teams gotr the ball like in college. Stupid shit.

I just looked. it was 2008, against Cincinnati, and the teams tied at 13-13. McNabb DID defer the kickoff in OT. Nice Big East education there McSpook.

[S2M]

The Hoodie isn't afraid to call any play at any time in any game.

Remember that Monday Night game against the Broncos a few years ago where NE was down one point in the fourth quarter? He chose to take a safety, on purpose in order to save clock. Genius. BTW, NE won that game.

Taking a safety against a meaningless game against the ponies is not the same as onsides kick against the Ravens in the AFC Championship game dude.

Dean...you continue to fail to think logically. Perhaps that game was important for homefield throughout....and I believe it was. Any game could mean anything. Don't forget - Hoodie went for it on 4th and 2(and made it BTW) in the playoffs - on his own side of the 50....refs didn't see it that way, but I haven't heard ONE person claim faulk didn't make that line marker.

[Rockindeano]

The Hoodie isn't afraid to call any play at any time in any game.

Remember that Monday Night game against the Broncos a few years ago where NE was down one point in the fourth quarter? He chose to take a safety, on purpose in order to save clock. Genius. BTW, NE won that game.

Taking a safety against a meaningless game against the ponies is not the same as onsides kick against the Ravens in the AFC Championship game dude.

Dean...you continue to fail to think logically. Perhaps that game was important for homefield throughout....and I believe it was. Any game could mean anything. Don't forget - Hoodie went for it on 4th and 2(and made it BTW) in the playoffs - on his own side of the 50....refs didn't see it that way, but I haven't heard ONE person claim faulk didn't make that line marker.

LOL, I knew you would make an ass of yourself again. You tell me I am not logical, and then you trot out a sentence of "well, the refs didn't see it that way." You are just stuupid, nothing more, nothing less. You'll never learn.

I try to have a conversation with you and it is just a waste of time. NO ONE wants to talk to someone who just complains and whines about the refs...your arguments don't hold water.

[Rockindeano]

Oh lookie here- it wasn't a playoff game dipshit. It was a Colts-Pats game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OK3pa51v-Q

Sure he got past the 1st down marker, too bad Faulk bobbled the ball all the way down. Sorry bud, NO first down. Good call.

LOGIC.

[S2M]

Oh lookie here- it wasn't a playoff game dipshit. It was a Colts-Pats game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OK3pa51v-Q

Sure he got past the 1st down marker, too bad Faulk bobbled the ball all the way down. Sorry bud, NO first down. Good call.

LOGIC.

If you think he bobbled the ball ALL the way down - I suggest you use some of that narcotic medication money and buy yourself some corrective lenses...he initially bobbled it, and secured it WELL before re-crossing the marker.....dope.

[Rockindeano]

Oh lookie here- it wasn't a playoff game dipshit. It was a Colts-Pats game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OK3pa51v-Q

Sure he got past the 1st down marker, too bad Faulk bobbled the ball all the way down. Sorry bud, NO first down. Good call.

LOGIC.

If you think he bobbled the ball ALL the way down - I suggest you use some of that narcotic medication money and buy yourself some corrective lenses...he initially bobbled it, and secured it WELL before re-crossing the marker.....dope.

Oh I see, I am the dope, but you are the one insisting to me he made it. I have proof he didn't make it. Do you?

Scoreboard. You lose again.


You're too easy.

[S2M]

You have presented no proof. Your youtube video doesn't even show the ball. LMAO. If a ref had that lone vantage point to make a ruling it would have been 1st down. like I said - dope!

[Seven Wishes2]

This play, right here -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23oEg5ljBkY

- had the officials made the 100% OBVIOUS call of pass interference - would have given the Patriots at least a tie in the 2006 AFC Championship.

Now, watch this, at the 9:02 mark.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d803c9c6b/2006-AFC-Championship-Colts-vs-Patriots

This bogus one-yard run was courtesy of a completely bogus 3rd down pass interference call against Samuel that would have forced the Colts to kick a field goal.

Do the math - the Patriots should have, and deserved to, win this game by 7 - thus depriving the NFL the chance to make sure Peyton got at least one Super Bowl title.

[S2M]

This play, right here -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23oEg5ljBkY

- had the officials made the 100% OBVIOUS call of pass interference - would have given the Patriots at least a tie in the 2006 AFC Championship.

Now, watch this, at the 9:02 mark.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d803c9c6b/2006-AFC-Championship-Colts-vs-Patriots

This bogus one-yard run was courtesy of a completely bogus 3rd down pass interference call against Samuel that would have forced the Colts to kick a field goal.

Do the math - the Patriots should have, and deserved to, win this game by 7 - thus depriving the NFL the chance to make sure Peyton got at least one Super Bowl title.

I don't know about all that 7. I always attribute that Colts SB opportunity to Reche 'wide eyes' Caldwell's dropped pass.....

[Seven Wishes2]

And the topper of all toppers - the NFL made DAMNED sure the other Manning, little brother Elijah, got a stolen ring, too.

This play gets called holding or in the grasp (which would have made it 4th and 27) 999 times out of 1000, giving the Giants either a 3rd- or 4th- and 27. This is, without a doubt, the worst officiating call in the history of the Super Bowl, bar none.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/1216477/eli-s-lame-escape-o.gif

THREE SEPARATE HOLDS by the Giants' offensive line on ONE PLAY.

[S2M]

And the topper of all toppers - the NFL made DAMNED sure the other Manning, little brother Elijah, got a stolen ring, too.

This play gets called holding or in the grasp (which would have made it 4th and 27) 999 times out of 1000, giving the Giants either a 3rd- or 4th- and 27. This is, without a doubt, the worst officiating call in the history of the Super Bowl, bar none.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/1216477/eli-s-lame-escape-o.gif

THREE SEPARATE HOLDS by the Giants' offensive line on ONE PLAY.

AWESOME! That is MY gif. I made it. lol. Like O'Shea didn't have Seymour around the neck? Pitiful. Now both Mannings have SB trophies.

[Seven Wishes2]

You wouldn't believe how many Patriots haters I've shown that clip to who have said they had to admit it was an atrocious, game-changing call. At least 10 guys in my fantasy football league and handful of clients and co-workers.

[Rockindeano]

You have presented no proof. Your youtube video doesn't even show the ball. LMAO. If a ref had that lone vantage point to make a ruling it would have been 1st down. like I said - dope!

You are dumber than I thought you were.

The PROOF I have is the result. The result was Colt's ball on downs. He didn't make it. It's officially no 1st down.

Yet, I'm the dope?


You are a piece of shit.

[Rockindeano]

7 Wishes, you disappoint me. Siding with S2M on whining takes the cake. It has to be a New England thing. Pathetic, really.


Oh, and if I can live with Seattle getting raped in their Super Bowl, which IMO was much worse than anything you guys ever had happen to you, then I give up. Hell, you were given a free Super Bowl when the Raiders of all teams had you beat in the snow, and the infamous Brady arm going forward rule came about.

You New Englander's are too much. JFB is the only guy who doesn't whine.

[S2M]

You have presented no proof. Your youtube video doesn't even show the ball. LMAO. If a ref had that lone vantage point to make a ruling it would have been 1st down. like I said - dope!

You are dumber than I thought you were.

The PROOF I have is the result. The result was Colt's ball on downs. He didn't make it. It's officially no 1st down.

Yet, I'm the dope?


You are a piece of shit.

Dean - you just continually fail to think laterally. Your proof is that the refs had the final say, and in the scope of the play...Faulk ended up not getting the first down.

But when asked if OJ was actually guilty, you came up with this cogent gem:


"He's just looking to argue....he has no proof, logic nor brains. His posts are pretty fucking lame.

Everyone knows Orenthal turned Ron and Nicole into Pez Dispensers. It's a shame though, that the State of Nevada had to derail the Juice in his quest to find the real killers...I was told by friends he "was close.""

So, in essense, using your logic - the final say is the determining factor whether a ruling is correct or not. So i say to you that a court of referees determined OJ was innocent....so I guess he is....using your logical methods - of course....

[Rockindeano]

You have presented no proof. Your youtube video doesn't even show the ball. LMAO. If a ref had that lone vantage point to make a ruling it would have been 1st down. like I said - dope!

You are dumber than I thought you were.

The PROOF I have is the result. The result was Colt's ball on downs. He didn't make it. It's officially no 1st down.

Yet, I'm the dope?


You are a piece of shit.

Dean - you just continually fail to think laterally. Your proof is that the refs had the final say, and in the scope of the play...Faulk ended up not getting the first down.

But when asked if OJ was actually guilty, you came up with this cogent gem:


"He's just looking to argue....he has no proof, logic nor brains. His posts are pretty fucking lame.

Everyone knows Orenthal turned Ron and Nicole into Pez Dispensers. It's a shame though, that the State of Nevada had to derail the Juice in his quest to find the real killers...I was told by friends he "was close.""

So, in essense, using your logic - the final say is the determining factor whether a ruling is correct or not. So i say to you that a court of referees determined OJ was innocent....so I guess he is....using your logical methods - of course....

Orenthal was ultimately found to be guilty in the follow up trial, the Wrongful Death trial. The Golman's were awarded 33 million bucks.

Try again, Chowd.