OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[Ehwmatt]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

The NFL is still far and away the best pro sports league. But, something does have to be done about .500 teams having home field advantage or worse yet, losing record teams going to the playoffs (and even hosting games).

I don't think the NFL is the best league, not at all. I DO like how the emphasis is on winning every week, but come playoff time, how the hell does the NFL beat MLB playoffs or Stanley Cup Playoffs? I guess it's a matter of taste.

I can't speak to hockey, but I don't care if the MLB has the most ingenius playoff system known to man (it doesn't... any sport in which the playoffs take nearly 2 months to finish has a shitty playoff system... NBA/MLB etc). The MLB is fucked six ways from Sunday due to the economics of the league. The NFL is the only pro league that consistently produces parity, surprise teams, and the potential for a winner to come from ANY market. For me, that alone is enough to make it far superior to MLB/NBA.

[lights1961]

GO PACK GO... reach the playoffs... except that they play the Eagles... which is where the season started...and might be where it ends... I am happy with 10-6...especially when the season could have ended 8-8...

and the Seahawks WON their division...thats how its supposed to be...doesnt matter the record... so what if you are 10-6 and dont make the playoffs... if your 3rd place in your division and you lose to the other teams that are ahead of you that make the playoffs...thats just how it goes...and I have no issues with a team at 7-9 winning a division...and I also love the fact that only 12 teams make it...6 in each confrence... in NHL and NBA...that system is like playing a whole season... from 1st of April to MID JUNE with best of 5 crap to to best of 7 crap... NFL one and done is awesome... you dont get tomorrow... hell by the time NHL and NBA finals are played.. who cares...

Rick

[YoungJRNY]

It is fucking absurd that the Saints have to travel to an inferior Seattle team to play them, based on the performance of these two teams during the season!

Agreed. I don't think the playoff system needs changed. The only thing they need to tweak is record regarding hosting playoff games. In the Saints defense, even though they DO have to travel, they pretty much got a fucking BYE because no way, no how the Saints lose to Charlie Whitehurst and that terrible, embarrassing team in the Seahawks. Brees should be resting by the middle of the 3rd in this one next week.

[S2M]

GO PACK GO... reach the playoffs... except that they play the Eagles... which is where the season started...and might be where it ends... I am happy with 10-6...especially when the season could have ended 8-8...

and the Seahawks WON their division...thats how its supposed to be...doesnt matter the record... so what if you are 10-6 and dont make the playoffs... if your 3rd place in your division and you lose to the other teams that are ahead of you that make the playoffs...thats just how it goes...and I have no issues with a team at 7-9 winning a division...and I also love the fact that only 12 teams make it...6 in each confrence... in NHL and NBA...that system is like playing a whole season... from 1st of April to MID JUNE with best of 5 crap to to best of 7 crap... NFL one and done is awesome... you dont get tomorrow... hell by the time NHL and NBA finals are played.. who cares...

Rick

Pack didn't really light it up yesterday.....I'm looking at a one and done for them.

[YoungJRNY]

Now that Week 17 has ended and the 2010 year is behind us (goes way too fast) lets compare in the pre-season predictions and results:

My predictions/results:

AFC EAST:

New England Patriots: 9-7/ 14-2
N.Y Jets: 11-5/ 11-5
Miami Dolphins: 8-8/7-9
Buffalo Bills: 5-11/ 4-12

AFC NORTH:

Pittsburgh Steelers: 9-7/ 12-4
Baltimore Ravens: 11-5/ 12-4
Cleveland Browns: 6-10/5-11
Cincinatti Bengals: 9-7/ 4-12

AFC SOUTH:

Indianapolis Colts: 12-4/ 10-6
Jacksonville Jaguars: 7-9/ 8-8
Houston Texans: 10-6/ 6-10
Tennessee Titans: 9-7/ 6-10

AFC WEST:

Kansas City Chiefs: 4-12/ 10-6
San Diego Chargers: 13-3/ 9-7
Oakland Raiders: 8-8/ 8-8
Denver Broncos: 8-8/ 4-12

NFC EAST:

Philadelphia Eagles: 7-9/ 10-6
N.Y Giants: 8-8/ 10-6
Dallas Cowboys: 11-5/ 6-10
Washington Redskins: 9-7/ 6-10

NFC NORTH:

Chicago Bears: 8-8/ 11-5
Green Bay Packers: 10-6/ 10-6
Detroit Lions: 5-11/ 6-10
Minnesota Vikings: 11-5/ 6-10

NFC SOUTH:

Atlanta Falcons: 9-7/ 13-3
New Orleans Satins: 12-4/ 11-5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 3-13/ 10-6
Carolina Panthers: 5-11/ 2-14

NFC WEST:

Seattle Seahawks: 8-8/ 7-9
St. Louis Rams: 3-13/ 7-9
San Francisco 49'ers: 9-7/ 6-10
Arizona Cardinals: 7-9/ 5-11

[S2M]

WILDCARD WEEKEND

Saints/Hawks - Saints
Balty/Chiefs - Chiefs
Jets/Colts - Colts
GB/Eagles - Eagles

DIVISIONAL

KC/NE - NE
Indy/Pitt - Pitt

NO/ATL - Atl
Philly/Chi - Chi

CONFERENCE

Pitt/NE - NE
Chi/Atl - Atl

SUPER BOWL

NE/ATL - NE

[Enigma869]

WILDCARD WEEKEND

Saints/Hawks - Saints
Balty/Chiefs - Chiefs
Jets/Colts - Colts
GB/Eagles - Eagles

I like all of your picks except the Chiefs. The Chiefs compiled their record against the little sisters of the poor this season and Baltimore is a much better team. I actually think the Patriots a are going to have a re-match with the Ravens in the playoffs, and even though I'd rather play any team in the NFL over Baltimore (and it's not because I think Baltimore is that much better than anyone), I still think the Patriots are the better team and win the game.

[S2M]

WILDCARD WEEKEND

Saints/Hawks - Saints
Balty/Chiefs - Chiefs
Jets/Colts - Colts
GB/Eagles - Eagles

I like all of your picks except the Chiefs. The Chiefs compiled their record against the little sisters of the poor this season and Baltimore is a much better team. I actually think the Patriots a are going to have a re-match with the Ravens in the playoffs, and even though I'd rather play any team in the NFL over Baltimore (and it's not because I think Baltimore is that much better than anyone), I still think the Patriots are the better team and win the game.

Basically, I'm just not sold on Joe Flaccid. And the Ravens 'D' is a poor characiture of itself. I'm thinking it'll be a close game. Probably in the area of 20-13, 17-14....something like that. Possibly the last team with the ball wins as time runs out....

and I'm SO fucking pissed at Collins for fumbling that ball....Titans had that game.

[Enigma869]

Basically, I'm just not sold on Joe Flaccid. And the Ravens 'D' is a poor characiture of itself.

I've never been sold on Flacco. That said, KC's wins this season were against Denver, San Diego, Cleveland, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Arizona, Seattle, St. Louis, and Tennessee. Not one of those teams is over .500 and only Jacksonville managed to get to .500. As I said, they haven't played anyone and like Baltimore or not, they're at least battle tested. Unlike the Chiefs, Baltimore beat three (Saints, Steelers, and Jets)playoff teams this season and played the Patriots very tough as well. I just can't see the Chiefs winning this game.

[Rockindeano]

Jets go INTO Indy and steal one. Rex said so. Rex fucking rules. All fat guys rule. rex ryan, his brother at Cleveland, Tony Stewart, and John Kruk. I love fat guys.

[Enigma869]

All fat guys rule. I love fat guys.

I agree. Did you see this return by a fat guy on the Patriots a few weeks back? Greatest return in the history of the NFL by a guy over 300lbs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-uFZ_VjW8M

[Rockindeano]

All fat guys rule. I love fat guys.

I agree. Did you see this return by a fat guy on the Patriots a few weeks back? Greatest return in the history of the NFL by a guy over 300lbs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-uFZ_VjW8M

Yeah, that return was epic.

Regarding Rex; how can you not like a fat coach who has fresh pizza sauce on his shirt giving a presser to the NY media? That is beyond Awesome. Dude's face is beat red from exhaustion(probably from mowing the entire pie himself), and his lettuce was all frayed up and sweaty...what's not to love about Rex? The guys continuously runs smack, all day and all night, plus his wife is fairly hot and super kinky.

[Enigma869]

Yeah, that return was epic.

Regarding Rex; how can you not like a fat coach who has fresh pizza sauce on his shirt giving a presser to the NY media? That is beyond Awesome. Dude's face is beat red from exhaustion(probably from mowing the entire pie himself), and his lettuce was all frayed up and sweaty...what's not to love about Rex? The guys continuously runs smack, all day and all night, plus his wife is fairly hot and super kinky.

I love Rex but don't think his act works in the NFL. His dad wasn't much different and it never worked much for him as a head coach. Remember his dead punching out Kevin Gilbride (at least that's who I think it was) on the sidelines? Classic stuff from Buddy.

[YoungJRNY]

All fat guys rule. I love fat guys.

I agree. Did you see this return by a fat guy on the Patriots a few weeks back? Greatest return in the history of the NFL by a guy over 300lbs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-uFZ_VjW8M

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do, I was watching this live and actually fist pumped when this happened. Something about seeing a lineman get recognition like this in his career always makes me feel good, and on top of it, a white boy with some moves haha.

[Enigma869]

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do

What exactly does New England do that makes you "sick to your stomach"? Is it the endless winning or the constant throttling of Shitsburgh every time they play them?

[mrsromek]

I'll chime in and say this-that return by the G on the Pats was one of the best things I saw in the NFL this season. And, the Pats coming into Chicago and kicking the Bears ass----even before halftime.

[Enigma869]

I'll chime in and say this-that return by the G on the Pats was one of the best things I saw in the NFL this season. And, the Pats coming into Chicago and kicking the Bears ass----even before halftime.

I agree. I would feel the same way if it were ANY offensive lineman on any team in the NFL. It's simply never happened before where a 300lb guy ran a ball back that far. If only he could have got into the end zone!

[mikemarrs]

The NFL has released home and away opponents for the 2011 season. The dates for games will be released in the spring.

AFC EAST

1. New England Patriots

Home: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Indianapolis Colts, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants
Away: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Pittsburgh Steelers, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins

2. New York Jets

Home: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants
Away: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Baltimore Ravens, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins

3. Miami Dolphins

Home: Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Houston Texans, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins
Away: Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Cleveland Browns, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants

4. Buffalo Bills

Home: Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Tennessee Titans, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins
Away: Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Cincinnati Bengals, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants
AFC NORTH

1. Cincinnati Bengals

Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Buffalo Bills, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Denver Broncos, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks

2. Baltimore Ravens

Home: Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers
Away: Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks

3. Pittsburgh Steelers

Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers

4. Cleveland Browns

Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Miami Dolphins, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Oakland Raiders, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers
AFC SOUTH

1. Indianapolis Colts

Home: Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Kansas City Chiefs, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers
Away: Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

2. Houston Texans

Home: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers
Away: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Miami Dolphins, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

3. Tennessee Titans

Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Denver Broncos, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers

4. Jacksonville Jaguars

Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, San Diego Chargers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, New York Jets, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers
AFC WEST

1. San Diego Chargers

Home: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
Away: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

2. Denver Broncos

Home: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Cincinnati Bengals, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
Away: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Tennessee Titans, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

3. Oakland Raiders

Home: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
Away: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Houston Texans, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

4. Kansas City Chiefs

Home: Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
Away: Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Indianapolis Colts, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
NFC EAST

1. Dallas Cowboys

Home: New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
Away: New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New England Patriots, New York Jets

2. Philadelphia Eagles

Home: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Chicago Bears, New England Patriots, New York Jets
Away: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington Redskins, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Atlanta Falcons, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins

3. New York Giants

Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Green Bay Packers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, New Orleans Saints, New England Patriots, New York Jets

4. Washington Redskins

Home: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Minnesota Vikings, New England Patriots, New York Jets
Away: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Carolina Panthers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
NFC NORTH

1. Minnesota Vikings

Home: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders
Away: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers

2. Green Bay Packers

Home: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, St. Louis Rams, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders
Away: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New York Giants, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers

3. Chicago Bears

Home: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers
Away: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders

4. Detroit Lions

Home: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, San Francisco 49ers, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers
Away: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders
NFC SOUTH

1. New Orleans Saints

Home: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, New York Giants, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
Away: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans

2. Atlanta Falcons

Home: Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
Away: Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Seattle Seahawks, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts

3. Carolina Panthers

Home: Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Washington Redskins, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
Away: Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Arizona Cardinals, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Home: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
Away: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, San Francisco 49ers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
NFC WEST

1. Arizona Cardinals

Home: St. Louis Rams, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers
Away: St. Louis Rams, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals

2. San Francisco 49ers

Home: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers
Away: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals

3. Seattle Seahawks

Home: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals
Away: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Chicago Bears, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers

4. St. Louis Rams

Home: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, New Orleans Saints, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals
Away: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Green Bay Packers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers

[YoungJRNY]

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do

What exactly does New England do that makes you "sick to your stomach"? Is it the endless winning or the constant throttling of Shitsburgh every time they play them?

I actually admire their winning ways & they've had their winning formula against the Steelers since 2001 so here in Pittsburgh we understand that because it's exactly what we do against opponents as well. It's the point of seeing Bill Bellicheat and his shady ways over the years and seeing nothing but media attention of non-stop ball licking with Brady and his "good looks" and watching that Colin guy on Sports Nation literally want to suck the jizz out of the guys cock at every show not to mention the league transforming protection for Tom Brady himself and Brady having the nerve to throw tantrums over everything. Follow that up by non-stop accusations against staff of Bellicheat's in recent weeks of being fined of cheating ways of another spy-gate (Daniels) and that ugly tripping of the Miami Dolphins player. People say "everyone does it" but it's funny that in some form of another, it's always someone who was officiated with Pats staff getting caught who is eventually fined or fired so it looks like Bellichick taught them well.

I've come across many New England fans and they literally are as arrogant as S2M and his non-stop banter of ridiculousness. Other than maybe Dallas, New England is the most hated sports franchise in pro football, hands down but I'm sure you don't give a fuck because if I was a New England fan, I sure wouldn't. Oh and by the way, watching them win the way they do makes it more hateful. Take the hate as a compliment.

[Enigma869]

I actually admire their winning ways & they've had their winning formula against the Steelers since 2001 so here in Pittsburgh we understand that because it's exactly what we do against opponents as well. It's the point of seeing Bill Bellicheat and his shady ways over the years and seeing nothing but media attention of non-stop ball licking with Brady and his "good looks" and watching that Colin guy on Sports Nation literally want to suck the jizz out of the guys cock at every show not to mention the league transforming protection for Tom Brady himself and Brady having the nerve to throw tantrums over everything. Follow that up by non-stop accusations against staff of Bellicheat's in recent weeks of being fined of cheating ways of another spy-gate (Daniels) and that ugly tripping of the Miami Dolphins player. People say "everyone does it" but it's funny that in some form of another, it's always someone from the Pats staff getting caught, fined or fired. I've come across many New England fans as well and they literally are as arrogant as S2M and his non-stop banter of ridiculousness. Other than maybe Dallas, New England is the most hated sports franchise in pro football, hands down but I'm sure you don't give a fuck because if I was a New England fan, I sure wouldn't.

Oh and by the way, watching them win the way they do makes it more hateful. Take the hate as a compliment.

Trust me, I've always taken the hate as a compliment. As I've always said, you haven't arrived in this country until you're hated. The most hated teams in all of sports are always the ones who win the most. That's simply the way things go. As for Belichick and his "shady" ways...that's fucking hilarious. My stance on the taping incident are well-documented. It's been going on forever in football and will never end. As I've said before, my high school coaches taped our opponents. That said, you do realize that Belichick is 41-8 in the three seasons since the whole "Tapegate" thing, right? Now is probably also a good time to point out that 6 of those 8 losses came in a season he didn't have Tom Brady! As far as the tripping incident in NY...I have zero idea how you're connecting the Patriots to that, because that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Patriots organization. I have zero problem with videotaping and wouldn't care if every one of the Patriots opponents videotaped EVERYTHING they did, but tripping a guy who is running down the sidelines is one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever witnessed!

[YoungJRNY]

I actually admire their winning ways & they've had their winning formula against the Steelers since 2001 so here in Pittsburgh we understand that because it's exactly what we do against opponents as well. It's the point of seeing Bill Bellicheat and his shady ways over the years and seeing nothing but media attention of non-stop ball licking with Brady and his "good looks" and watching that Colin guy on Sports Nation literally want to suck the jizz out of the guys cock at every show not to mention the league transforming protection for Tom Brady himself and Brady having the nerve to throw tantrums over everything. Follow that up by non-stop accusations against staff of Bellicheat's in recent weeks of being fined of cheating ways of another spy-gate (Daniels) and that ugly tripping of the Miami Dolphins player. People say "everyone does it" but it's funny that in some form of another, it's always someone from the Pats staff getting caught, fined or fired. I've come across many New England fans as well and they literally are as arrogant as S2M and his non-stop banter of ridiculousness. Other than maybe Dallas, New England is the most hated sports franchise in pro football, hands down but I'm sure you don't give a fuck because if I was a New England fan, I sure wouldn't.

Oh and by the way, watching them win the way they do makes it more hateful. Take the hate as a compliment.

Trust me, I've always taken the hate as a compliment. As I've always said, you haven't arrived in this country until you're hated. The most hated teams in all of sports are always the ones who win the most. That's simply the way things go. As for Belichick and his "shady" ways...that's fucking hilarious. My stance on the taping incident are well-documented. It's been going on forever in football and will never end. As I've said before, my high school coaches taped our opponents. That said, you do realize that Belichick is 41-8 in the three seasons since the whole "Tapegate" thing, right? Now is probably also a good time to point out that 6 of those 8 losses came in a season he didn't have Tom Brady! As far as the tripping incident in NY...I have zero idea how you're connecting the Patriots to that, because that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Patriots organization. I have zero problem with videotaping and wouldn't care if every one of the Patriots opponents videotaped EVERYTHING they did, but tripping a guy who is running down the sidelines is one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever witnessed!

I guess I worded it wrong with comparing Alosi with the Pats organization. It was just ironically connected to the last time we saw such a thing, which was when Belichick shielded his body from I think it was a Colts player who was blocked into the sidelines. It just seems like the Pats are always involved in some kind of mis-hap on the field OR assistants who came from the Pats organization afterword. I know that shit like video-taping happens in football but it's just funny noone else got caught than the Pats who were dumb enough to go right to the sidelines and use a camera on the field within play. Atleast keep it in the booth. The only thing shady about Belichick is his un-sportsmanship when the guy DOES lose (which you said, is 41-8 since the Spygate incident) but I've seen him snub the opposing coach many times and acts like a whino when he does have to shake their hand. It's just one shady feel when it comes to N.E but like I said, I actually respect N.E because you guys do so many things in common with Pittsburgh in building a team through draft, dealing with free agents, team unity, and top notch ownership.

[S2M]

The fact remains that Belichick gets the ire of so many people because he is successful. If it is fact that everybody else does the shit he's accused of - then why not make those instances public? Why don't we hear about Dallas, or Carolina, or even Seattle? Cause they aren't WINNERS. The only reason you hear about Belichick/Patriots is because they have success. Other baseball teams buy players...but because NY is a big market, and has had success - all you ever hear is the Yankees buy championships.

I guarantee you if another team in the near future goes on a run like NE has had recently - you will start hearing negative things about said team...

[YoungJRNY]

The fact remains that Belichick gets the ire of so many people because he is successful. If it is fact that everybody else does the shit he's accused of - then why not make those instances public? Why don't we hear about Dallas, or Carolina, or even Seattle? Cause they aren't WINNERS. The only reason you hear about Belichick/Patriots is because they have success. Other baseball teams buy players...but because NY is a big market, and has had success - all you ever hear is the Yankees buy championships.

I guarantee you if another team in the near future goes on a run like NE has had recently - you will start hearing negative things about said team...

Noone's disputing that. Hell, before Belichick had his stint with the Pats from the start of this decade, he was a nobody bum whose resume was FAR from anywhere NEAR impressive. Since the NFL merger in 1970, there is no other team with a better win percentage than Pittsburgh (412-263-1 .608 winning percentage) so I get what you're saying. As far as the Dallas comment. That's absurd. I think Jerry Jones has most air-time since the start of this decade over any Super Bowl winning team and Dallas has only won one playoff game since 1996. Success is the staple of all franchise's and with that comes the heat from others fan base's. It's sports 101 and something I've always taken as a compliment. Right now at present time, it's New England and Tom Brady that are the most hated with the most Super Bowl titles within the last 10 years mixed in with some controversy that has most fan-base's with wide eyes that put the target on their backs with probably Pittsburgh and Indy a close 2nd and 3rd givin the same success's.

[Rockindeano]

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do

What exactly does New England do that makes you "sick to your stomach"? Is it the endless winning or the constant throttling of Shitsburgh every time they play them?

That's why I HATE the Pats. They're so good and they're real classy too. Everyone from Bellichik, Brady to the O line speaks well, respectful and intelligent. The entire organization is classy, much like Pittsburgh. These two organizations, along with the Packers, Red Wings, Penguins, Canucks, Lakers, Sperms, Red Sox, and Yankees are among the best in sports, IMO.

[Seven Wishes2]

Exactly. Unlike the Jets, Eagles, or Ravens, the Patriots NEVER put their feet in their mouths and say anything stupid or provide them with any extra motivation. How many SB titles do those types of teams have since the NFL merger? Exactly one - the Ravens beat the Giants ten years ago. Otherwise, it always gets them in trouble.

The Pats are hated because they're successful, although not with the rabidity the Cowgirls once stoked in their enemies decades ago.

I'm damned proud of this team, because when my best buds and I used to make the trek from UMass to Foxboro in the late eighties, they were routinely finishing 2-14 or 1-15 under Rod Rust and getting outscored by about 25 points per game.

[Rockindeano]

Exactly. Unlike the Jets, Eagles, or Ravens, the Patriots NEVER put their feet in their mouths and say anything stupid or provide them with any extra motivation. How many SB titles do those types of teams have since the NFL merger? Exactly one - the Ravens beat the Giants ten years ago. Otherwise, it always gets them in trouble.

The Pats are hated because they're successful, although not with the rabidity the Cowgirls once stoked in their enemies decades ago.

I'm damned proud of this team, because when my best buds and I used to make the trek from UMass to Foxboro in the late eighties, they were routinely finishing 2-14 or 1-15 under Rod Rust and getting outscored by about 25 points per game.

Was that the Grogan years? And their RB was Craig James yes?

[NoMoreTails]

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do

What exactly does New England do that makes you "sick to your stomach"? Is it the endless winning or the constant throttling of Shitsburgh every time they play them?

That's why I HATE the Pats. They're so good and they're real classy too. Everyone from Bellichik, Brady to the O line speaks well, respectful and intelligent. The entire organization is classy, much like Pittsburgh. These two organizations, along with the Packers, Red Wings, Penguins, Canucks, Lakers, Sperms, Red Sox, and Yankees are among the best in sports, IMO.

Giving them a free pass on their "tapegate" ?

[Seven Wishes2]

Oh, enough already. You can get exactly the same information and footage LEGALLY. Every other damned team in the NFL did it, and most still do.

Stop using it as a crutch - as though that dubious footage and the accumulation thereof was the only reason the Pats were ever successful. Their organizational philosophy is win at all costs, from top to bottom. THAT is why they will be regarded as perhaps THE greatest dynasty of all time if they win it all this year.

[Rockindeano]

Even though N.E makes me sick to my stomach in pretty much everything they do

What exactly does New England do that makes you "sick to your stomach"? Is it the endless winning or the constant throttling of Shitsburgh every time they play them?

That's why I HATE the Pats. They're so good and they're real classy too. Everyone from Bellichik, Brady to the O line speaks well, respectful and intelligent. The entire organization is classy, much like Pittsburgh. These two organizations, along with the Packers, Red Wings, Penguins, Canucks, Lakers, Sperms, Red Sox, and Yankees are among the best in sports, IMO.

Giving them a free pass on their "tapegate" ?

Yeah dude, this tapegate is a bit different than the Journey tape scandal. I don't have to break it down do I?

[S2M]

Exactly. Unlike the Jets, Eagles, or Ravens, the Patriots NEVER put their feet in their mouths and say anything stupid or provide them with any extra motivation. How many SB titles do those types of teams have since the NFL merger? Exactly one - the Ravens beat the Giants ten years ago. Otherwise, it always gets them in trouble.

The Pats are hated because they're successful, although not with the rabidity the Cowgirls once stoked in their enemies decades ago.

I'm damned proud of this team, because when my best buds and I used to make the trek from UMass to Foxboro in the late eighties, they were routinely finishing 2-14 or 1-15 under Rod Rust and getting outscored by about 25 points per game.

Was that the Grogan years? And their RB was Craig James yes?

Well....by 1988 Flutie was the main QB, and although James was on the team, he wasn't the featured back, it was John Stephens, and Bob Perryman