President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[RossValoryRocks]

Can we move on now and not thrash each other? PLEASE?

Even I am trying to make civil discussion and not threaten to pound anyone (except Monker He deserves what's coming to him j/k) or call people names and such.

So on that note...

Birthright Citizenship...14th Amendment...is it being applied correctly?

[RedWingFan]

Can we move on now and not thrash each other? PLEASE?

Even I am trying to make civil discussion and not threaten to pound anyone (except Monker He deserves what's coming to him j/k) or call people names and such.

So on that note...

Birthright Citizenship...14th Amendment...is it being applied correctly?

Sorry dude, I haven't even been participating in this thread for the past few pages til I saw 7cells call me out along with FF. He deserved the beatdown.

[Seven Wishes2]

Lesson #1...stay down on the mat when you're knocked out.
I OWN you, bitch.

1) You denied being a plagiarist.

I provided evidence that you indeed are.

2) You claimed I'm a racist and Stu and I both asked you to provide evidence.

You ignored our requests like a little bitch.

3) You emphatically claimed that I had never criticized President Bush.

I provided 2 posts that of mine that did criticize him.

4) You stated "I own you bitch".

Making this statement in light of the above facts doesn't make it true any more than your ridiculous, "95% of scientists agree.." bullshit makes that true. It only makes you look even more stupid. Just trying to help here.

You didn't prove jack shit about any plagiarism. Innumerable people here have posted snippets of articles without sourcing them - mostly you and LieFinder.

Don't try to drag Stu into this. This is our rhubarb. And the proof is in the pudding - you didn't bat an eyelash when the lying, criminal, out-of-control Dubbya Administration almost ran this country into the ground - and no, one lukewarm and one defrosted comment does NOT make you George Will. You ARE a racist because you have held Obama over the fire for the same things for which you lauded Bush.

And, finally - I've metaphorically kicked your ass on this board so many times I've stopped keeping count. Your close-out comment is great...as if American Conservative politicians know more about global science than climatologists. Go ahead and keep revering the lies and bullshit, and ignore the massive amount of evidence against your position...it makes you look even more the fool.

[Seven Wishes2]

I notice YOU only bring up the ad hominems and red herrings when I have already argumentally double graped your 50-year-old ass and used that (or similar) terminology to prove how fallacious your argument was (or is). In fact, every one of your retorts has simply been a "I know you are, but what am I?"

You do realize your most recent ballyhooing - your parroting of factcheck.com's 2009 "lie of the year award" (the death panel myth) - is inherently and in of itself a mockery of your own capricious fallacies?

Your best intellectual en pointe is about as graceful as an incontinent blind bulldog at a fire hydrant.

You need to accept that a) you are a racist; b) given your complete lack of ability to reason, are hence unqualified to post anywhere about anything where truth and fact can interfere with a good rant; and c) you're not worth the time.

Once you go to your proctologist to have him repair the (not coincidentally) Limbaugh-sized ring-finger anal sphincter ruptures, have him remove Hannity's foot from your mouth, O'Reilly's gape from your nut-sack, and for the love of Pete, get your stomach pumped of the ten gallons of Beck spooge that's causing your constant blathering. That, in turn, may cure you of your irreverence and, perchance, irrelevance.

Now, go back to your gay goat-porn. I'm done with you for the evening.

I just thought I'd pull a PolPotFan and re-post something I had recently written in its entirety.

[Rockindeano]

Look at 7 Wishes getting loose and quoting himself! That is a sign of cockiness right there.

Also. love the nocturnal attack- while HimmlerFan ZZZZ's, 7 is racking up jab points. Too bad I'll be on a fucking train all day tomorrow and Sunday to check in to this sideshow. This is truly how I envision this entire board to be.....keep it up boys!

[conversationpc]

Lesson #1...stay down on the mat when you're knocked out.
I OWN you, bitch.

Shouldn't you let the rest of us judge who owns whom?

Saying you won, either of you actually, or that you own the other is like a person standing up on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and pronouncing themselves Emperor of the United States...he or she might actually believe it, but that doesn't make it true.

Yeah, I've always kinda loved how some folks around here are always declaring themselves the winner. It's usually a sign of just the opposite, i.e. a loser.

[conversationpc]

Oh my sides!.......Hilarious shit....Oh how I wish it were so..





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz3Y4iqr ... re=related

That's hilarious!

[RedWingFan]

Oh my sides!.......Hilarious shit....Oh how I wish it were so..





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz3Y4iqr ... re=related

Classic!!!

[S2M]

Yeah, cause Hastert and Gingrich were SO much better

[Seven Wishes2]

CzarNickolasFan, the mere fact you parroted a well-known lie and tried to prop it up as a truth, per your Faux marching orders, already qualifies you as a TKO.

Stay down on the mat, bitch.

[RedWingFan]

CzarNickolasFan, the mere fact you parroted a well-known lie and tried to prop it up as a truth, per your Faux marching orders, already qualifies you as a TKO.

Stay down on the mat, bitch.

Okay Genius! Fool!

[Seven Wishes2]

Nice comeback.

You're down and out. Goodbye.

[Behshad]

Happy Birthday Deano! Ya'll may not agree when it comes to politics, but Im sure every one of you will enjoys this !

[RedWingFan]

You ARE a racist because you have held Obama over the fire for the same things for which you lauded Bush.

Give an example of 1 thing that I've criticized Obama for and praised Bush for doing the same thing. Feel free to cite my past posts to expose my racism for the rest of the board, fool.

[Behshad]

Guess I was wrong !

[RedWingFan]

Guess I was wrong !

Behshad, have I ever told you that you're the best poster on the board?

[Behshad]

Happy Birthday Deano !

[Behshad]

Guess I was wrong !

Behshad, have I ever told you that you're the best poster on the board?

Thanks! I figured we needed something special in here to celebrate Deano's Bday ! Talk about a stimulus package !

[Angel]

Yes, just what you guys need, something else to stimulate your package.

[StevePerryHair]

Guess I was wrong !

Behshad, have I ever told you that you're the best poster on the board?

Thanks! I figured we needed something special in here to celebrate Deano's Bday ! Talk about a stimulus package !

[RedWingFan]

GoebbelsFan, you haven't ever ONCE used an actual FACTUAL, UNBIASED source. Not one.

So 7Braincells, are you saying that thehill.com is not a "factual, unbiased source."? Proved you wrong again fool!

These ads, which claim the health care bill will "increase health care costs for all Americans" yet is paid for by Blue Cross (hmmmmm....), when in fact it will do the opposite...people continue to be brainwashed.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/he ... ould-go-up

“as a consequence of us getting 30 million additional people health care—at the margins that’s going to increase our costs, we knew that. We didn’t think that we were going to cover 30 million people for free.” -President Barack Obama

If anyone knows about being brainwashed...It'd be you 7braincells. I think you got "hypmotized" by Bamsters balls swinging in your face. 100% indisputably, irrefutably wrong again!!! It's fools like you that have voting rights that endangers this country and what little liberty it has left. You're such a fool it's pathetic, and it's shown to you over and over, and you deny it or call the prez a douche. There's 316 pages that demonstrates how wrong you are, it's a gold mine with your idiocy!

[Seven Wishes2]

Senator Douche, you didn't prove ANYTHING by extrapolating that. Nothing. What I wrote had NOTHING to do with what you posted.

Wow, are you stupid.

[Seven Wishes2]

When did this upgrade to a porn thread?

Anyway, Stu...what is your take on the 14th? I'm curious. I'm assuming the context your query was the children of immigrants issue.

I'm all for the naturalization of any citizen who serves this country in uniform. Not so much someone who manages to get into an institution of higher learning. In a lot of cases, they could be soaking up federal dollars intended for American citizens.

I suppose I'm against it if it includes collegiates...if restricted to just the military, I support it.

[StevePerryHair]

If anyone knows about being brainwashed...It'd be you 7braincells. I think you got "hypmotized" by Bamsters balls swinging in your face. 100% indisputably, irrefutably wrong again!!! It's fools like you that have voting rights that endangers this country and what little liberty it has left. You're such a fool it's pathetic, and it's shown to you over and over, and you deny it or call the prez a douche. There's 316 pages that demonstrates how wrong you are, it's a gold mine with your idiocy!

(guess I'm into bolding and laughing today! )

[RedWingFan]

Senator Douche, you didn't prove ANYTHING by extrapolating that. Nothing. What I wrote had NOTHING to do with what you posted.

Wow, are you stupid.

Okay 7braincells, try to get all 7 of those neurons all fired up so you can follow this.

You stated that I had NEVER quoted an unbiased source,so I just pulled up this old exchange we had where I quoted and linked to thehill.com, which is an unbiased source. I know acting stupid comes very natural to you, but this is ridiculous.

[conversationpc]

Arguing over whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like arguing over whether Michael Jackson had more plastic surgery than Joan Rivers.

[slucero]

The Congressional Budget Office can't seem to make up its mind..

BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/07/br ... pealing-ob
By Philip Klein on 1.7.11 @ 1:56PM

The Congressional Budget Office, in an email to Capitol Hill staffers obtained by the Spectator, has said that repealing the national health care law would reduce net spending by $540 billion in the ten year period from 2012 through 2021. That number represents the cost of the new provisions, minus Medicare cuts. Repealing the bill would also eliminate $770 billion in taxes. It's the tax hikes in the health care law (along with the Medicare cuts) which accounts for the $230 billion in deficit reduction.

Full email, from Edward "Sandy" Davis, CBO's Associate Director for Legislative Affairs, below.

To interested Hill staff:

CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have not yet developed a detailed estimate of the budgetary impact of H.R. 2, the Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act, which would repeal the major health care legislation enacted in March 2010. Yesterday, we released a preliminary analysis of that legislation indicating that, over the 2012-2021 period, the effect of enacting H.R. 2 on the federal budget as a result of changes in direct spending and revenues is likely to be an increase in deficits in the vicinity of $230 billion, plus or minus the effects of forthcoming technical and economic changes to CBO’s and JCT’s projections for that period.

We have been asked to provide the revenue and direct spending components of that total. Extrapolating the estimated budgetary effects of the original health care legislation and accounting for the effects of subsequent legislation, CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion, plus or minus the effects of forthcoming technical and economic changes to CBO’s and JCT’s projections.

CBO will post a Director’s blog with this information on the CBO website shortly. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Sandy
Edward "Sandy" Davis
Associate Director for Legislative Affairs
Congressional Budget Office

CBO press release

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=1759

Additional Information on CBO’s Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2

CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have not yet developed a detailed estimate of the budgetary impact of H.R. 2, the Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act, which would repeal the major health care legislation enacted in March 2010. Yesterday, we released a preliminary analysis of that legislation indicating that, over the 2012-2021 period, the effect of enacting H.R. 2 on the federal budget as a result of changes in direct spending and revenues is likely to be an increase in deficits in the vicinity of $230 billion, plus or minus the effects of forthcoming technical and economic changes to CBO’s and JCT’s projections for that period.

We have been asked to provide the revenue and direct spending components of that total. Extrapolating the estimated budgetary effects of the original health care legislation and accounting for the effects of subsequent legislation, CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion, plus or minus the effects of forthcoming technical and economic changes to CBO’s and JCT’s projections.

[RossValoryRocks]

When did this upgrade to a porn thread?

Anyway, Stu...what is your take on the 14th? I'm curious. I'm assuming the context your query was the children of immigrants issue.

I'm all for the naturalization of any citizen who serves this country in uniform. Not so much someone who manages to get into an institution of higher learning. In a lot of cases, they could be soaking up federal dollars intended for American citizens.

I suppose I'm against it if it includes collegiates...if restricted to just the military, I support it.

The 14th amendment has 2 parts to the citizenship clause...

1. Born on US Soil
2. The parent(s) are subject to the authority of the US Government

Illegal aliens who have children born here are not subject to the authority of the US government, they are not citizens or resident aliens with proper authorization to be here, hence anchor babies are NOT US citizens.

Here is a list of SOME MODERN COUNTRIES THAT RECENTLY ENDED THEIR BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP POLICY:

a. Canada was the last non-U.S. holdout. Illegal aliens stopped getting citizenship for their babies in 2009.

b. Australia's birthright citizenship requirements are much more stringent than those of H.R. 1868 and took effect in 2007.

c. New Zealand repealed in 2006.

d. Ireland repealed in 2005.

e. France repealed in 1993.

f. India repealed in 1987.

g. United Kingdom repealed in 1983.

h. Portugal repealed in 1981


I am all for allow people to come here legally. I am all for doing something about the millions of them that are here now, short of an amnesty. I would probably support illegals earning their citizenship through military or other kind of service.

But the anchor baby thing needs to stop.

[Seven Wishes2]

Agreed. 100%.

IMO, military is the ONLY way.

[RedWingFan]

Arguing over whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like arguing over whether Michael Jackson had more plastic surgery than Joan Rivers.

Agreed. Then when we finally have an element like the Tea Party which promises to reduce the power of government and return some back to the people, we have folks like 7 braincells who defend the fat cats in Washington and thus the status quo.