OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[S2M]

Game winning Drives, and 4th quarter Comebacks are the TWO most overrated stats in NFL history. So basically a team sucks for 3 quarters and suddenly gets a mulligan because they had a good 15 minutes? Nope.

Is this overrated? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gs5IARvyZg

That was fun to watch again!

Fun to watch, but he never got both feet down. One foot was on top of the other....just saying.

[Enigma869]

I care about wins in football just a bit more than I do about wins as a stat in Baseball. A pitcher that gives up 9 runs, but gets bailed out by a offense that scored 10 - doesn't deserve a win, and isn't looked upon as a quality start in my book. Whereas a QB who puts up 7 points(rushing TD by RB), whose defense held the opposing team scoreless, should be looked at the same way...the QB gets the win but that win is deceiving.

By the way, the other point I'll make on why I don't think the same argument works in the two sports is that there are other metrics to measure a pitcher by that don't always correlate to wins (ask Felix Hernandez). You show me a QB with a fuckload on TD's and very few picks and I'll show you a QB who isn't losing very many games. Unlike baseball, there is almost always a direct correlation between the numbers a QB puts up and his win total. Also, the QB starts EVERY game for his team whereas a starting pitcher is simply one of 8 or 9 guys starting for a baseball team over the course of a season.

[Saint John]

Everyone is bringing up great points. Stats are usually guidelines for forming opinions and some carry a bit more truth to them than others. In the case of Big Ben, the guy has simply made some incredible clutch throws and clutch moves to avoid sacks that no stat can accurately glorify. As far as I'm concerned, the guy is already a Hall Of Famer and a win next Sunday will catapult him into an extremely elite category. He's just done so much and is the epitome of a guy that makes everyone around him better. And he's gotten this all done by playing well in the game's defining moments and that's where legends are born.

[YoungJRNY]

Game winning Drives, and 4th quarter Comebacks are the TWO most overrated stats in NFL history. So basically a team sucks for 3 quarters and suddenly gets a mulligan because they had a good 15 minutes? Nope.

Is this overrated? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gs5IARvyZg

That was fun to watch again!

Fun to watch, but he never got both feet down. One foot was on top of the other....just saying.

Come on man, FUCK.

[S2M]

Trav, simply not buying it. Buy the time he gets control that right foot is off the turf.

[Saint John]

Game winning Drives, and 4th quarter Comebacks are the TWO most overrated stats in NFL history. So basically a team sucks for 3 quarters and suddenly gets a mulligan because they had a good 15 minutes? Nope.

Is this overrated? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gs5IARvyZg

That was fun to watch again!

Fun to watch, but he never got both feet down. One foot was on top of the other....just saying.

Only you would come in here with this atrocious trash. It was called a TD on the field by a guy a few feet away and upheld by replay. Fuck, people in Arizona didn't even complain about it and Trav has provided irrefutable pictures (on top of the common sense approach the rest of the world has already taken).

[Saint John]

Trav, simply not buying it. Buy the time he gets control that right foot is off the turf.

There's nothing to "buy," other than some fucking glasses. It's a fact and the second picture more than proves that.

[S2M]

Game winning Drives, and 4th quarter Comebacks are the TWO most overrated stats in NFL history. So basically a team sucks for 3 quarters and suddenly gets a mulligan because they had a good 15 minutes? Nope.

Is this overrated? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gs5IARvyZg

That was fun to watch again!

Fun to watch, but he never got both feet down. One foot was on top of the other....just saying.

Only you would come in here with this atrocious trash. It was called a TD on the field by a guy a few feet away and upheld by replay. Fuck, people in Arizona didn't even complain about it and Trav has provided irrefutable pictures (on top of the common sense approach the rest of the world has already taken).

Oh, you are going to use the called by the guy only a few feet away defense, huh? So the guy a few feet away from Eli manning, Richard Seymour, and Shaun O'Hara didn't see the blatant chokehold, but this guy saw both feet down in a bang/bang play? That's Rich...


I suppse you are a Jim Joyce ballwasher too?

[YoungJRNY]

Everyone is bringing up great points. Stats are usually guidelines for forming opinions and some carry a bit more truth to them than others. In the case of Big Ben, the guy has simply made some incredible clutch throws and clutch moves to avoid sacks that no stat can accurately glorify. As far as I'm concerned, the guy is already a Hall Of Famer and a win next Sunday will catapult him into an extremely elite category. He's just done so much and is the epitome of a guy that makes everyone around him better. And he's gotten this all done by playing well in the game's defining moments and that's where legends are born.

Good points. This doesn't show up on any stat sheets.



2 of the plays in this game defined the Steelers season and were the two vivid plays that stick out as to how we got to the Super Bowl. Troys Fumble and Ben alluding Suggs.

[S2M]

First of all, and this doesn't have anything to do with Holme's catch. Explain to me this whole it was called such-and-such on the field therefore the call supercedes unless there is video evidence to the contrary. So in cases where everyone knows the initial call was in error, but replay won't everturn it - please tell me what evidence the official had in making the initial call!

[Saint John]

Oh, you are going to use the called by the guy only a few feet away defense, huh? So the guy a few feet away from Eli manning, Richard Seymour, and Shaun O'Hara didn't see the blatant chokehold, but this guy saw both feet down in a bang/bang play? That's Rich...


I suppse you are a Jim Joyce ballwasher too?

Jim Joyce is a bum and the faggoty commissioner should have righted that wrong (because it would have ended the game). As for the holding call you're bitching about, that was a good no call. The Patriots blew the game. Plain and simple.

[conversationpc]

Trav, dude, shrink the pick and that long-ass link. I HATE having to scroll right to read these things.

[S2M]

Oh, you are going to use the called by the guy only a few feet away defense, huh? So the guy a few feet away from Eli manning, Richard Seymour, and Shaun O'Hara didn't see the blatant chokehold, but this guy saw both feet down in a bang/bang play? That's Rich...


I suppse you are a Jim Joyce ballwasher too?

Jim Joyce is a bum and the faggoty commissioner should have righted that wrong (because it would have ended the game). As for the holding call you're bitching about, that was a good no call. The Patriots blew the game. Plain and simple.

Oh, so there are times where holding should be no calls now? Wow....and when exactly is that, Dan?

[Saint John]

So in cases where everyone knows the initial call was in error, but replay won't everturn it - please tell me what evidence the official had in making the initial call!

In case you haven't noticed in your cynical, myopic 40 years on this planet, the vast majority of calls involve a human element of judgment and, because of that, there are going to be errors. However, for you to bitch, needle, moan and get vaginal thigh sweats over a subjective call or calls in every game your team ends up losing makes you neither a sportsman nor a sports fan. It makes you an asshole.

[Enigma869]

Jim Joyce is a bum

He's actually a pretty good MLB umpire and has been for many years. The dude simply fucked up (In a HUGE way).

the faggoty commissioner should have righted that wrong

I couldn't agree more. It's still fucking absurd to me that the gutless Selig didn't do the right thing. There isn't a person on the planet who would have had a problem with him ruling that the "perfect game" that it was!

As for the holding call you're bitching about, that was a good no call.

No it wasn't. I mean....Come on, man! You're not going to hear me blame the Patriots loss on that non-call, but that was as blatant of a penalty as you'll see in the NFL. Far less obvious penalties are called in the NFL every week. That wasn't a "ticky tack" penalty...it was a mugging! As for the Santonio Holmes catch...When I watched it live, I was certain he wasn't in bounds. When I watched the replay, I had zero doubt that it was a catch and even though Ben gets all the credit, that was all Holmes. Sure, Ben had to throw it, but how Holmes got his two feet down (and they were down in bounds) is beyond me, and he just did it against the Patriots again two weeks ago. Dude knows how to tap his toes down where they need to be.

[S2M]

So in cases where everyone knows the initial call was in error, but replay won't everturn it - please tell me what evidence the official had in making the initial call!

In case you haven't noticed in your cynical, myopic 40 years on this planet, the vast majority of calls involve a human element of judgment and, because of that, there are going to be errors. However, for you to bitch, needle, moan and get vaginal thigh sweats over a subjective call or calls in every game your team ends up losing makes you neither a sportsman nor a sports fan. It makes you an asshole.

Look Dan. And I'm going to be as nice as I can possibly muster today. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are 'my' teams. I just lobby for fair and unbiased officiating. Of course I'm going to use the teams that I watch because I obviously witness those plays. It happens in every game each week. Hochuli's call in Denver. That play in SB 42. Phantom PI in SB 40. GAME CHANGERS! Each one of them. NE's famous 4th and 2. Gutsy call that was MADE....all the criticism comes from the situation surrounding that play. That line was made. GAME CHANGER!

[YoungJRNY]

Look Dan. And I'm going to be as nice as I can possibly muster today. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are 'my' teams.

Givin' your track record, and there's a long list of laundry over the years, it has EVERYTHING to do with it. New England never commits a penalty, they never lose a game and when they do, it's all on the referee's making a bad call against your team, even when they are virtually stopped in the rules of the game (4th and 2.) Nothing is ever said when the Patriots receive a penalty flag from the other teams. The opposing teams flags against them are ALL legit, while the penalty committed against N.E is the wrong doing of the ref and is a "game changer." New England's opponents flags are never questionable, ever.

Give it up. You could always tell when S2M is back in the thread topic.

[S2M]

Look Dan. And I'm going to be as nice as I can possibly muster today. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are 'my' teams.

Givin' your track record, and there's a long list of laundry over the years, it has EVERYTHING to do with it. New England never commits a penalty, they never lose a game and when they do, it's all on the referee's making a bad call against your team, even when they are virtually stopped in the rules of the game (4th and 2.) Nothing is ever said when the Patriots receive a penalty flag from the other teams. The opposing teams flags against them are ALL legit, while the penalty committed against N.E is the wrong doing of the ref and is a "game changer." New England's opponents flags are never questionable, ever.

Give it up. You could always tell when S2M is back in the thread topic.

Trav, how about staying on topic for once, huh? Wouldn't that be novel. I'm talking about NON-CALLS, not NE penalties that I don't agree with.

[YoungJRNY]

Look Dan. And I'm going to be as nice as I can possibly muster today. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are 'my' teams.

Givin' your track record, and there's a long list of laundry over the years, it has EVERYTHING to do with it. New England never commits a penalty, they never lose a game and when they do, it's all on the referee's making a bad call against your team, even when they are virtually stopped in the rules of the game (4th and 2.) Nothing is ever said when the Patriots receive a penalty flag from the other teams. The opposing teams flags against them are ALL legit, while the penalty committed against N.E is the wrong doing of the ref and is a "game changer." New England's opponents flags are never questionable, ever.

Give it up. You could always tell when S2M is back in the thread topic.

Trav, how about staying on topic for once, huh? Wouldn't that be novel. I'm talking about NON-CALLS, not NE penalties that I don't agree with.

Talking anything about ref's and teams being screwed is straight on topic when it comes to you, S2M. Besides, they go hand in hand!

[Saint John]

So in cases where everyone knows the initial call was in error, but replay won't everturn it - please tell me what evidence the official had in making the initial call!

In case you haven't noticed in your cynical, myopic 40 years on this planet, the vast majority of calls involve a human element of judgment and, because of that, there are going to be errors. However, for you to bitch, needle, moan and get vaginal thigh sweats over a subjective call or calls in every game your team ends up losing makes you neither a sportsman nor a sports fan. It makes you an asshole.

Look Dan. And I'm going to be as nice as I can possibly muster today. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are 'my' teams. I just lobby for fair and unbiased officiating. Of course I'm going to use the teams that I watch because I obviously witness those plays. It happens in every game each week. Hochuli's call in Denver. That play in SB 42. Phantom PI in SB 40. GAME CHANGERS! Each one of them. NE's famous 4th and 2. Gutsy call that was MADE....all the criticism comes from the situation surrounding that play. That line was made. GAME CHANGER!

You continue to show your ignorance. Every game is going to have a few questionable calls, but I can honestly say that after watching thousands of NFL games, the refs do an incredible job and I can't think of one game other than the Denver game with that creep Hochuli, that they have made a call that changed the outcome of the game. And here's how virtually every reporter, player, fan and person with a fucking brain inside their dome remembers the Giants/Patriots Super Bowl play that you have a problem with:

Facing a third-and-5 on their own 44-yard line with 1:15 remaining, Manning took the snap in a shotgun formation. Pressured by Adalius Thomas from his left, Manning stepped up in the pocket and into the rush of Seymour and Green.

The play looked to be over as Manning's left shoulder pad was in the grasp of Green's outstretched left hand and Seymour had a hold of his jersey with his left hand as well. But Manning kept his balance, spun, and then reversed course and found himself all alone in the right flat -- with enough time to plant on his back foot and heave the ball down the middle of the field toward Tyree.

Tyree, planted on the right hashmark on the 24-yard line, went up for the ball with Harrison on his right hip. As Harrison swatted at the ball with his right hand, Tyree got control of the ball and pinned it against his helmet. At point holding it against his helmet with only his right hand, Tyree managed to keep the ball from hitting the ground as he came down with the 32-yard reception to keep the drive alive.

The bottom line is that 3 New England Patriots failed to do their jobs ... Seymour, Green and Harrison. They make the sack or bat the ball down and you don't remember a thing about this bullshit holding no call. I could probably grab that game film and find 10 instances of very similar no calls that went the other way. Your team lost fair and square. Face the facts.

[S2M]

Ok, Dan...I hate to be the beacon of logic and reason here. But your defense about if Manning was sacked or the ball being batted down, or even Harrison making a play on Tyree is illogical. Anything that happens other than the hold is irrelevant.

So I guess it is alright for me to say this: Fuck Galarraga! If he had struck out the batter there wouldn't have had to be a play at first to screw up.

[Enigma869]

The bottom line is that 3 New England Patriots failed to do their jobs ... Seymour, Green and Harrison. They make the sack or bat the ball down and you don't remember a thing about this bullshit holding no call. I could probably grab that game film and find 10 instances of very similar no calls that went the other way. Your team lost fair and square. Face the facts.

Totally off-topic, but what the fuck is with your signature? Did you seriously suck up to Perry in the QandA session? Aren't you one of the biggest bashers of Perry on this board? What's up with that?

[Saint John]

Ok, Dan...I hate to be the beacon of logic and reason here. But your defense about if Manning was sacked or the ball being batted down, or even Harrison making a play on Tyree is illogical. Anything that happens other than the hold is irrelevant.

So I guess it is alright for me to say this: Fuck Galarraga! If he had struck out the batter there wouldn't have had to be a play at first to screw up.

We can see from a baseball replay that the call was totally blown. It's not a judgment call in that case ... it becomes a fact. I have watched the silly play you keep harping about and I simply see a play that could have gone either way. It's over man. The team that played better and did more on the field won. Brady was under duress the whole game. let me go through that film and I could probably find similar, if not worse, potential holds that could have been made against the Patriots. Say the following slowly and you'll feel better ... the Giants won the game fair and square.

[Rockindeano]

Hey S2M, you remember last years NCAA final with Duke v butler? I vividly recall Butler getting hosed on a couple of non calls. Of course you'll agree with me here and say Duke absolutley did not deserve that title right? LOL, you are just a fuck.

The scoreboard has only lied ONCE. The 1972 Olympics, where the USA Men's basketball team was obviously screwed out of the gold by corrupt political referring, and the award handed to the russians. even the Olympic Officials acknowledged it.

The Steelers DID defeat the Seahawks, and the NY Football Giants DID defeat the Patriots. I can prove it, can you?

Scoreboard, you lose AGAIN. Seriously, how old are you? You come across as an 7 year old who just lost a game of checkers to his dad and is throwing a fit. Pussy.

[S2M]

Hey S2M, you remember last years NCAA final with Duke v butler? I vividly recall Butler getting hosed on a couple of non calls. Of course you'll agree with me here and say Duke absolutley did not deserve that title right? LOL, you are just a fuck.

The scoreboard has only lied ONCE. The 1972 Olympics, where the USA Men's basketball team was obviously screwed out of the gold by corrupt political referring, and the award handed to the russians. even the Olympic Officials acknowledged it.

The Steelers DID defeat the Seahawks, and the NY Football Giants DID defeat the Patriots. I can prove it, can you?

Scoreboard, you lose AGAIN. Seriously, how old are you? You come across as an 7 year old who just lost a game of checkers to his dad and is throwing a fit. Pussy.

How quickly you forget Roy Jones Jr. getting fucked out of that gold medal in Seoul in '88.

[Saint John]

The bottom line is that 3 New England Patriots failed to do their jobs ... Seymour, Green and Harrison. They make the sack or bat the ball down and you don't remember a thing about this bullshit holding no call. I could probably grab that game film and find 10 instances of very similar no calls that went the other way. Your team lost fair and square. Face the facts.

Totally off-topic, but what the fuck is with your signature? Did you seriously suck up to Perry in the QandA session? Aren't you one of the biggest bashers of Perry on this board? What's up with that?

Questions 1, 9 (sent through girlfriend's email) and 24 are mine. I consider the guy the greatest singer ever ... and also a lousy bandmate and atrocious decision maker. I had some questions that I was interested in the guy answering. That ok with you?

http://www.fanasylum.com/steveperry/index.php

[Rockindeano]

Hey S2M, you remember last years NCAA final with Duke v butler? I vividly recall Butler getting hosed on a couple of non calls. Of course you'll agree with me here and say Duke absolutley did not deserve that title right? LOL, you are just a fuck.

The scoreboard has only lied ONCE. The 1972 Olympics, where the USA Men's basketball team was obviously screwed out of the gold by corrupt political referring, and the award handed to the russians. even the Olympic Officials acknowledged it.

The Steelers DID defeat the Seahawks, and the NY Football Giants DID defeat the Patriots. I can prove it, can you?

Scoreboard, you lose AGAIN. Seriously, how old are you? You come across as an 7 year old who just lost a game of checkers to his dad and is throwing a fit. Pussy.

How quickly you forget Roy Jones Jr. getting fucked out of that gold medal in Seoul in '88.

Way to change the topic there. Boxing, notably Olympic boxing sucks. Any sport where you need judging sucks. Ice dancing, figure skating, while very hard to perform and asthetically pleasing as a beautiful sport, requires judges, people from all over the globe, from shithole places like the Czech Republic, Russia, France and Great Britain, all with chips on their shoulders towards countries like the USA and Canada, who kick everybody else's asses, make for a farce of sport. Then you have a real sport like football(the American real football), where it is all decided ON the fucking field, and we have guys like YOU who try to turn it into a farce, screaming foul! when your team needs one, and bullshit! when your team is caught. You embarrass not only yourself Sean, but your city of Boston, your fellow sportsfans in Chowd City(7 Wishes and JFB) as well as this Board. I showed this friend of mine this thread and without asking him to look at any one specific poster or topic, the first thing out of his mouth was that "S2M is a whiner." I kid you not. He said you whine about everything and anything, and are a sore fucking loser. You know Sean, it's ok to lose once in awhile. Even the Yankees lose once in awhile. Even the Pats lose, as well as the celtics, oops, hahahaha..oh yeah, they too got hosed against the Lakers last year.

It's a shame you have to resort to whining and bitching and making excuses all the time. You have the ability to present good takes once in awhile and make some good reads too, but your whining makes you look like a little bitch.

[S2M]

Way to change the topic there. Boxing, notably Olympic boxing sucks. Any sport where you need judging sucks. Ice dancing, figure skating, while very hard to perform and asthetically pleasing as a beautiful sport, requires judges, people from all over the globe, from shithole places like the Czech Republic, Russia, France and Great Britain, all with chips on their shoulders towards countries like the USA and Canada, who kick everybody else's asses, make for a farce of sport. Then you have a real sport like football(the American real football), where it is all decided ON the fucking field, and we have guys like YOU who try to turn it into a farce, screaming foul! when your team needs one, and bullshit! when your team is caught. You embarrass not only yourself Sean, but your city of Boston, your fellow sportsfans in Chowd City(7 Wishes and JFB) as well as this Board. I showed this friend of mine this thread and without asking him to look at any one specific poster or topic, the first thing out of his mouth was that "S2M is a whiner." I kid you not. He said you whine about everything and anything, and are a sore fucking loser. You know Sean, it's ok to lose once in awhile. Even the Yankees lose once in awhile. Even the Pats lose, as well as the celtics, oops, hahahaha..oh yeah, they too got hosed against the Lakers last year.

It's a shame you have to resort to whining and bitching and making excuses all the time. You have the ability to present good takes once in awhile and make some good reads too, but your whining makes you look like a little bitch.

I'm going to call you a liar on having a friend read all 96 pages of this thread, Dean. Really? I mean am I to believe you actually care that much about what I say to have a 'friend' read the entire thread for corroboration? You got enough of a fanclub here as it is. Though I don't exactly know why. You have the most posts, and you have inside contacts that I'm sure some people here have exploited on occasion, so you are tolerated. Your anecdotal accounts of your various female conquests are pitiful, if not entertaining - and your propensity for narcotics is reprehensible. Your numerous bodily noises/functions are quite sophmoric, and your musical tastes are somewhat suspect. I don't care how many nights No Voice sells out, or how many albums he's sold. Its crap music, and most people here are just afraid to tell you what they really think, and where to go.

As far as *I* go? I'm never changing. I'll never backtrack, and I'll never apologize(for the most part). You haven't a clue about me other than what you read and infer. Just this week I've heard you rip into someone, only to have to apologize. At least 4 times this week. I don't work that way. I don't get personal, thus no need to save face. My sports takes are mine alone. no one has to agree. And yes, they are subject to dissecting by the numerous sports pundits here. There is a difference between you and I. I may be an awful sports fan, but you dean, are an awful excuse for a human being.

[Rockindeano]

Way to change the topic there. Boxing, notably Olympic boxing sucks. Any sport where you need judging sucks. Ice dancing, figure skating, while very hard to perform and asthetically pleasing as a beautiful sport, requires judges, people from all over the globe, from shithole places like the Czech Republic, Russia, France and Great Britain, all with chips on their shoulders towards countries like the USA and Canada, who kick everybody else's asses, make for a farce of sport. Then you have a real sport like football(the American real football), where it is all decided ON the fucking field, and we have guys like YOU who try to turn it into a farce, screaming foul! when your team needs one, and bullshit! when your team is caught. You embarrass not only yourself Sean, but your city of Boston, your fellow sportsfans in Chowd City(7 Wishes and JFB) as well as this Board. I showed this friend of mine this thread and without asking him to look at any one specific poster or topic, the first thing out of his mouth was that "S2M is a whiner." I kid you not. He said you whine about everything and anything, and are a sore fucking loser. You know Sean, it's ok to lose once in awhile. Even the Yankees lose once in awhile. Even the Pats lose, as well as the celtics, oops, hahahaha..oh yeah, they too got hosed against the Lakers last year.

It's a shame you have to resort to whining and bitching and making excuses all the time. You have the ability to present good takes once in awhile and make some good reads too, but your whining makes you look like a little bitch.

I'm going to call you a liar on having a friend read all 96 pages of this thread, Dean. Really? I mean am I to believe you actually care that much about what I say to have a 'friend' read the entire thread for corroboration? You got enough of a fanclub here as it is. Though I don't exactly know why. You have the most posts, and you have inside contacts that I'm sure some people here have exploited on occasion, so you are tolerated. Your anecdotal accounts of your various female conquests are pitiful, if not entertaining - and your propensity for narcotics is reprehensible. Your numerous bodily noises/functions are quite sophmoric, and your musical tastes are somewhat suspect. I don't care how many nights No Voice sells out, or how many albums he's sold. Its crap music, and most people here are just afraid to tell you what they really think, and where to go.

As far as *I* go? I'm never changing. I'll never backtrack, and I'll never apologize(for the most part). You haven't a clue about me other than what you read and infer. Just this week I've heard you rip into someone, only to have to apologize. At least 4 times this week. I don't work that way. I don't get personal, thus no need to save face. My sports takes are mine alone. no one has to agree. And yes, they are subject to dissecting by the numerous sports pundits here. There is a difference between you and I. I may be an awful sports fan, but you dean, are an awful excuse for a human being.

Oh for fucks sake, get a little deeper why don't you? I simply call you out for your sports bitching, and you decide to lay me on the couch and run psychobabble shit on me. Go to Hell douche. I didn't have to apologize to Kelly, I wanted to. I was wrong. It bothered me. As for how I live my life, whatever. I may be a piece of shit, but I can tell you right here and right now, I am a much better sports fan than you ever will be and if you run a poll in this thread on who is a better sports arguer, debater, whatever, I will crush you. NO ONE likes your bitching, whining and complaining. All I said was just stop that shit, and talk sports, but you can't. You need to come back at me, attack my lifestyle and all that is personal, and I am good with that. I choose to make my life public, as I have nothing to hide.

I would love to know about your smack on my female "conquests?' Good God...And who cares about my choice of partying? You think I really care what others on this board think of my lifestyle choices? No, I don't. I don't sit in judgement of others like you obviously do. You choose to stay private and conceal your life, which is fine, while I choose to not hide anything....so you at first opportuinity, choose to attack my lifestyle, because it is known, is public and I guess is easy pickens. I am the only guy here to really call you out(on stupid sports takes, nothing personal like you have just done, and you get pissy. Fuck you Sean, you bitter, miserable sonofabithch.

So continue on with complaining about the refs(God that sounds so fucking stupid, and keep telling yourself the Pats, Bruins, Celts and Sox have never truly lost a game, and live a happy life. You have got to be the most boring motherfucker this side of Rhode Island.

So ready your rebuttal, attack my very public life(I don't care), and have at it.

Also, your "NoVoice" smack is pretty lame, LOL. Yep, Bruce sucks, all 140 million albums sold is overrated, and the sold out tours is also an aberration of sorts. LOL, Jealous much? Even Dan, who hates Bruce, wouldn't say he sucks. No one with a brain would say that and mean it.

When you are ready to argue sports like a man, and not include refs or rules or bad calls, I welcome that. Til then, go wear your gay Duke visor, your Celtic pajamas, and your Red Sox underwear. man up Sean, I know you can, I have faith in you. Douche.

[Rockindeano]

Oh, and as for having a friend read 96 pages of this crap, of course not he didn't. he read the part righ tup until where you were running your 51-17 prediction smack, and then poof! you disappeared when tom and gang went down. I told him to go back further and read the part where you posted Youtube videos of the "non holding" Super Bowl hold ...and that's all he need to see. I wasn't trying to point you out or even be mean to you...he said this all on his own. look dude, hate me all you want, god knows half of this board or more does, but for Christ sake listen to me when I say your referee talk is elementary.