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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:45 pm

Great play call by Pittsburgh on the 2 point conversion. The entire defensive front of the Packers jumped on Mendenhall up the middle. Looks like we're coming down to the wire.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:57 pm

I ran out of heart medicine 2 quarters ago...I may not be back...the wife broke out the defib machine just in case...
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:00 pm

#57 is an idiot.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:02 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:I ran out of heart medicine 2 quarters ago...I may not be back...the wife broke out the defib machine just in case...


I can relate bro. A few years ago when the Wings beat the Penguins in the finals, my hands and feet were ice cold and tingling during the 3OT game.

There is a point when you get too old for sports. :?
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Postby Behshad » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:02 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:I ran out of heart medicine 2 quarters ago...I may not be back...the wife broke out the defib machine just in case...



At least you have Dan there ,,, he's a pro at CPR... I've heard. :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:02 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:#57 is an idiot.


Really not much different than the Packers player on the punt return earlier getting called for the same thing. You simply can't do this shit during these big moments. Pittsburgh fans should be fucking ELATED that this team has a chance to win this game. The Packers should have won this game by 3 TD's!
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:06 pm

Karma - 31 Raplisberger - 25
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:08 pm

Wow. An amazing game. How the Steelers even stayed close is beyond me.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:08 pm

Congrats to the Pack...the capitalized on Pittsburgh's mistakes the way a good team will, and Pittsburgh didn't play good enough to win.

They deserve the win for sure.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:09 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:#57 is an idiot.


Really not much different than the Packers player on the punt return earlier getting called for the same thing. You simply can't do this shit during these big moments. Pittsburgh fans should be fucking ELATED that this team has a chance to win this game. The Packers should have won this game by 3 TD's!


Yep...the Steelers somehow managed to stay in the game...they are a good team, the Pack was simply better tonight.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:09 pm

Congrats to the Green Bay Packers! They capitalized on the 3 turnovers turned into 7 and earned it. Well deserved! Great SB!
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Postby WalkInMyShoes » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:11 pm

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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:16 pm

How long before Brett Whatshisname comes out with praise for the Packers organization? Trying to rehab his reputation with the people of Wisconsin, after trying for 6 months to undermine the Packers and Rodgers. Rodgers got a Lombardi trophy for Green Bay in half the time it took Whatshisname, and Rodgers is FAR from done. Enjoy your "real" retirement ya lying backstabbing fool. The Packers and Ted Thompson get the last laugh. Hahahahaha!

Rodgers threw ZERO interceptions. Whatshisname would have thrown 4 with the pressure the Steelers were bringing.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:20 pm

RedWingFan wrote:How long before Brett Whatshisname comes out with praise for the Packers organization? Trying to rehab his reputation with the people of Wisconsin, after trying for 6 months to undermine the Packers and Rodgers. Rodgers got a Lombardi trophy for Green Bay in half the time it took Whatshisname, and Rodgers is FAR from done. Enjoy your "real" retirement ya lying backstabbing fool. The Packers and Ted Thompson get the last laugh. Hahahahaha!

Rodgers threw ZERO interceptions. Whatshisname would have thrown 4 with the pressure the Steelers were bringing.


Favre is one of the biggest frauds the NFL has ever seen, which is why I was REALLY, REALLY pulling for the Packers in this one. Now Rodgers has just as many rings as that fraud has!
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:21 pm

Favre had the 3rd best winning percentage among QB's with more than 100 starts and holds every single career passing record that exists. He also was the face of the NFL for 15 years, and revitalized a near-dead franchise. He may be an idiot, but cut him some slack.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:24 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Favre had the 3rd best winning percentage among QB's with more than 100 starts and holds every single career passing record that exists. He also was the face of the NFL for 15 years, and revitalized a near-dead franchise. He may be an idiot, but cut him some slack.


I'll cut him zero slack. That fucking fraud played for 100 fucking years. You play that long...you compile some records. Like most of Favre's ball washing fans, you forgot to mention the records he has for the most interceptions and turnovers as well! Fuck Favre and all of his ball washers!
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Postby Everett » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:29 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:Congrats to the Green Bay Packers! They capitalized on the 3 turnovers turned into 7 and earned it. Well deserved! Great SB!


Nice too see your still with us trav. Great game bro
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm

You have to be good to be a starting QB in the NFL for two decades, and tough as hell to not miss ONE start.

Also, he had 200 more passing TD's than INT's, so it's not like he wasn't great when he was at the top of his game.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:37 pm

Everett wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Congrats to the Green Bay Packers! They capitalized on the 3 turnovers turned into 7 and earned it. Well deserved! Great SB!


Nice too see your still with us trav. Great game bro


There's nothing that shocked me with the overall result. The BIGTIME difference was Mendenhall's turnover. If the ball doesn't pop out, who knows but that was a bigtime nail in the coffin. Kudos for Green Bay for capitalizing on a team turnover worthy.
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Postby mikemarrs » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:41 pm

the packers are set for dominance.i could see them winning a few rings.Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the league right now and will be for years to come.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:55 pm

Every time a team wins a Super Bowl, everyone is ready to proclaim them a dynasty.

The Packers will be competitive for the next 10 years, though. Pure dominance like the Pats, Steelers, and Colts - with winning percentages over .700 the past ten years? A very difficult task. I'd love to see it - Green Bay IS football.
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Postby Don » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:14 pm

NFL Championship #13.

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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:16 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Every time a team wins a Super Bowl, everyone is ready to proclaim them a dynasty.

The Packers will be competitive for the next 10 years, though. Pure dominance like the Pats, Steelers, and Colts - with winning percentages over .700 the past ten years? A very difficult task. I'd love to see it - Green Bay IS football.


The Packers are on the cusp of creating something great. I loved their team all year. They will now build on trying to win back to back, which is always one tough testament. Hopefully this bargain agreement could work itself out, because I don't think this Steelers team is going anywhere either, along with the Pats, the Ravens and Colts!
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:52 pm

The Ravens are the weakest link because Joe Flaccid will NEVER be anything close to an elite QB. Gone are the days when everyman Dilfer-types can win you a Super Bowl.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:32 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:The BIGTIME difference was Mendenhall's turnover.


While I don't disagree with you that Mendenhall's turnover was big, it wasn't the reason that the Steelers lost this game. As I said previously, it was miraculous that the Steelers were even in this game. The Packers did everything (namely dropping pass after pass) they could to allow the Steelers to hang around. Pittsburgh never once led and in my opinion, Ben is THE REASON they lost that game. He simply didn't play well and made far too many huge mistakes for his team to win the game.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:33 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:The Ravens are the weakest link because Joe Flaccid will NEVER be anything close to an elite QB. Gone are the days when everyman Dilfer-types can win you a Super Bowl.


I'm very confident in the AFC North being owned by the Steelers as long as Matt's favorite quarterback ever, #5 Joe Flacco is at QB for Baltimore.

As for the Super Bowl, granted you need a solid QB but I think it's safe to say it's the defense that wins championships. GB forced 3 Steelers turnovers that resulted in 21 points. Yeah, the pick 6 really blew, but it was the Mendenhall fumble that haunted us. We had them right then and there. The fumble was the dagger. Green Bay took advantage of a Steelers defense that had no will to perform, atleast in the 1st half (only gave up one first down in the 3rd QRT.) All of our bigplay ability was invisible. Harrison? Nowhere. Woodley? Nowhere. Troy? Nowhere. Timmons? Nowhere. Farrior? Ben? Nowhere. Coming back from an 18 point deficit was incredible but the magic wasn't there. Great Super Bowl.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:37 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The BIGTIME difference was Mendenhall's turnover.


While I don't disagree with you that Mendenhall's turnover was big, it wasn't the reason that the Steelers lost this game. As I said previously, it was miraculous that the Steelers were even in this game. The Packers did everything (namely dropping pass after pass) they could to allow the Steelers to hang around. Pittsburgh never once led and in my opinion, Ben is THE REASON they lost that game. He simply didn't play well and made far too many huge mistakes for his team to win the game.


Ben was off all night and did not have a good game. That pick 6 was a poorly thrown ball, but seeing Kemo get bulldozed like a Chinese school girl, letting the defender hit Ben's arm, I'll cut him SOME slack on where that ball was. If Ben puts that there, Wallace is gone. Other than that, Ben was off all day. He was overthrowing receivers and didn't look comfortable one bit. Ben played well enough in the second half to win, but being in a deficit early and turning it on way too late never works in your favor.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:53 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Every time a team wins a Super Bowl, everyone is ready to proclaim them a dynasty.

The Packers will be competitive for the next 10 years, though. Pure dominance like the Pats, Steelers, and Colts - with winning percentages over .700 the past ten years? A very difficult task. I'd love to see it - Green Bay IS football.


Yeah, you had to know the dynasty label was coming. They are a young team, though, and they have a good shot to dominate if they can keep their players signed.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:54 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The BIGTIME difference was Mendenhall's turnover.


While I don't disagree with you that Mendenhall's turnover was big, it wasn't the reason that the Steelers lost this game. As I said previously, it was miraculous that the Steelers were even in this game. The Packers did everything (namely dropping pass after pass) they could to allow the Steelers to hang around. Pittsburgh never once led and in my opinion, Ben is THE REASON they lost that game. He simply didn't play well and made far too many huge mistakes for his team to win the game.


I agree on all points John.

After digesting this overnight, the Steelers honestly got dominated. Rodgers was impeccable, he made Polamalu pay for his aggressiveness, and the fact of the matter is that Rodgers should have thrown for 5 or 6 TDs had Jordie Nelson not come down with a bad case of Braylonitis before the game :shock: . Ben was horrible, and that 2 minute drill at the end was horrendous. I was sitting there saying the Steelers had it in the bag for sure after GB was forced to settle for three. Ben simply didn't produce like he has in those situations before, and that horrendous, inefficient, 2 minute drill bogged down by miscommunications has to fall back primarily on him.

Great game though. The Steelers are a great team, but frankly, their offense got exposed. Ben's turnovers forced them to go through the air more. Once they were forced to go that route and take the game out of the trenches pounding the ball on the ground, it was over, regardless of how close the game got in the end. The Packers, on the other hand, were able to play their brand of football. And they won because of it.

This game has to fall back primarily on Ben. Losing Woodson should have given Ben a decent chance to make some things happen, and he just couldn't do enough. Dishonorable mention goes to the reigning Defensive PotY, Polamalu, who was shockingly ineffective not just last night, but throughout the whole playoffs. The guy is great, but he is injured far too often for my own tastes.
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