President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Angel]

Women think abortion is about choice, when it's really about the ending of a life.

Not all women think that way, asswipe!

Enough of them that aborton remains legal, Team Mattress Back.....

It's not just women that keep abortion legal. As for your condescending tone-I would be willing to bet that most of the women around here are far more intelligent than you are.

[S2M]

Women think abortion is about choice, when it's really about the ending of a life.

Not all women think that way, asswipe!

Enough of them that aborton remains legal, Team Mattress Back.....

It's not just women that keep abortion legal. As for your condescending tone-I would be willing to bet that most of the women around here are far more intelligent than you are.

I suggest throwing that diploma away from the Jimmy the Greek School of Talking out my Ass

[conversationpc]

The cuts proposed by Republicans currently in Congress don't come anywhere near enough to make much of a difference. The hypocrisy on both sides of this issue is completely deafening.

[Seven Wishes2]

Name ONE thing Obama has done that "violates" the Constitution. One. I can name a DOZEN Dubbya did.

I got news for ya 7, those Republicans who may have supported the mandate are long gone from Congress, there's a new team in town with new ideas. It's called "Change", Hope you can deal with it. [/quote]

No, this Administration was about change - from the 8 ruinous years of Dumbya.

THIS is called pandering and whoring yourself to Big Oil and the rich, and NOTHING more.

[conversationpc]

Name ONE thing Obama has done that "violates" the Constitution. One. I can name a DOZEN Dubbya did.

I got news for ya 7, those Republicans who may have supported the mandate are long gone from Congress, there's a new team in town with new ideas. It's called "Change", Hope you can deal with it.

No, this Administration was about change - from the 8 ruinous years of Dumbya.

THIS is called pandering and whoring yourself to Big Oil and the rich, and NOTHING more.[/quote]

So where has your outrage been over libtards pandering to Big Union, Big Lawyer, Big GE, etc., etc., etc?

[slucero]

[S2M]

Obama has become a president that wants acceptance from the republican party. There is no other reason for adding 22.6 Billion dollars to the Defense Budget.

Budgets are moral documents. When politicians come to the table with budget cuts that include nutrition cuts for kids, aid to colleges, etc...it shows just where your morality is....Washington needs to stop balancing the budget on the backs of the poor. -paraphrased from Tavis Smiley

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

"A good one".

You neo-cons always omit the last sentence from the commerce clause.

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


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But neither should you assign a meaning to the necessary and proper clause which isn’t there. The original intent of necessary and proper is made pretty clear by Madison in Federalist 41, (and in fact scattered throughout Federalist 39-46. As Madison explains, N & P is simply enabaler to those powers specifically enumerated in the constitution- eg stating that the congress had the powers to do the things which which are practically necessary to exercise those specifically enumerated powers. ( and only those -not just anything it decides is a good idea) For example, if congress wants to build a navy , they can buy ships and cannon balls (as long as buying ships and cannonballs doesn’t violate the constitution)
As a matter of fact Madison saw N &P as a further restriction of government power – Madison in fact argued against the creation of the First bank of the US saying that the necessary and proper clause could not be used as an excuse for any extension of power . ( he also argued the alien and sedition acts could not be justified by N &P clause)
N&P is also restricted by two other things – firstly in legal terms by the 10th amendment which restricts powers strictly to those areas enumerated and secondly in philosophical terms by the preamble which states the power of govt is to secure the blessings of liberty – which in the Lockean political philosophy adhered to by the founders means rights of property already naturally existent in individuals – an hence inviolable by the acts of an over reaching govt.

[slucero]

$4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

[S2M]

You guys might want to fill up the gas tank tonite...

Oil surges on Libyan violence

Crude Oil Mar 11 91.42 1:12PM EST +5.22 (6.06%)

Any excuse for the powers that be to raise prices....ANY.

[Behshad]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

[slucero]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

funny... I didn't say Faux News...

[S2M]

We are likely to get involved...oil is at stake. Fuck Darfur. Pay no mind to genocide. Let's protect oil....

[donnaplease]

Heard the funniest thing today...

"Congress took this week off in honor of President's Day"

[slucero]

wow.. Chinese market is taking a giant shit right now... down -450

looks like the Middle East is causing some profit taking....

[Rhiannon]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

Probably gonna happen, B. Maybe not out there in Cowtown... but I just noticed the other day in parts of the city it's up around the $3.60 mark already. So rising futures + eventual Memorial Day and beyond spikes = $4 easily in certain areas. But still, good example of sensationalism. A few pockets of $4 fuel doesn't make for a general statement that most people will assume means the entire country.

[slucero]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

Probably gonna happen, B. Maybe not out there in Cowtown... but I just noticed the other day in parts of the city it's up around the $3.60 mark already. So rising futures + eventual Memorial Day and beyond spikes = $4 easily in certain areas. But still, good example of sensationalism. A few pockets of $4 fuel doesn't make for a general statement that most people will assume means the entire country.

Except I never said it was Faux News... I was making the statement on my own... and Beshad was doing the "sensationalizing" all by himself....


.. other than that... everything you said is dead on...

[conversationpc]

$4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

The question is will Obama be blamed for the high gas prices just like Bush was blamed during his term? I can guarantee you that he won't be.

[Behshad]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

Probably gonna happen, B. Maybe not out there in Cowtown... but I just noticed the other day in parts of the city it's up around the $3.60 mark already. So rising futures + eventual Memorial Day and beyond spikes = $4 easily in certain areas. But still, good example of sensationalism. A few pockets of $4 fuel doesn't make for a general statement that most people will assume means the entire country.

I know the gas prices will go up, its a no brainer,,, its all over the news,,, I was just pickon on Slucy, cause he was acting like he is the only one who knows about this

[StevePerryHair]

Ours is about 3.19, but I got some at Sam's today for $3.05! What a bargain!

[bluejeangirl76]

Ours is about 3.19, but I got some at Sam's today for $3.05! What a bargain!

Up here, it's the 3.19 gas that we celebrate as a bargain!

I barely even look at the price anymore. It's just a fact of life for the time being. I've seen worse fuel prices and I'm sure I will again.

[StevePerryHair]

Ours is about 3.19, but I got some at Sam's today for $3.05! What a bargain!

Up here, it's the 3.19 gas that we celebrate as a bargain!

I barely even look at the price anymore. It's just a fact of life for the time being. I've seen worse fuel prices and I'm sure I will again.

Yeah, I'm just glad I'm not planning to drive too far anytime soon. I'm not looking forward to maybe flights going up though, in time for summer concert travel!

[Rhiannon]

$4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

The question is will Obama be blamed for the high gas prices just like Bush was blamed during his term? I can guarantee you that he won't be.

He will be by some. It's cyclical.

[Saint John]

Let me be the first to thank former president Bush and Tony Blair for working with Libya and getting Gaddafi to voluntarily give up his weapons of mass destruction and his chemical weapons and to allow full access to weapon's inspectors. I have a feeling he didn't want to end up like Hussein did. The world is a much safer place now that this maniac is powerless. Especially considering that he looks to be going out in a blaze of glory.

[slucero]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

Probably gonna happen, B. Maybe not out there in Cowtown... but I just noticed the other day in parts of the city it's up around the $3.60 mark already. So rising futures + eventual Memorial Day and beyond spikes = $4 easily in certain areas. But still, good example of sensationalism. A few pockets of $4 fuel doesn't make for a general statement that most people will assume means the entire country.

I know the gas prices will go up, its a no brainer,,, its all over the news,,, I was just pickon on Slucy, cause he was acting like he is the only one who knows about this

lmao... ya.. I control the gas prices....

[Behshad]

FoxNews just said $4 Dollar a gallon gas.. just in time for summer...

Probably gonna happen, B. Maybe not out there in Cowtown... but I just noticed the other day in parts of the city it's up around the $3.60 mark already. So rising futures + eventual Memorial Day and beyond spikes = $4 easily in certain areas. But still, good example of sensationalism. A few pockets of $4 fuel doesn't make for a general statement that most people will assume means the entire country.

I know the gas prices will go up, its a no brainer,,, its all over the news,,, I was just pickon on Slucy, cause he was acting like he is the only one who knows about this

lmao... ya.. I control the gas ....

[RedWingFan]

Let me be the first to thank former president Bush and Tony Blair for working with Libya and getting Gaddafi to voluntarily give up his weapons of mass destruction and his chemical weapons and to allow full access to weapon's inspectors.

Great point dude! They "worked with Libya" by making mince meat out of Iraq's mighty military and ousting Hussein. There's one variable gone from the current situation in Libya.

[Saint John]

Let me be the first to thank former president Bush and Tony Blair for working with Libya and getting Gaddafi to voluntarily give up his weapons of mass destruction and his chemical weapons and to allow full access to weapon's inspectors.

Great point dude! They "worked with Libya" by making mince meat out of Iraq's mighty military and ousting Hussein. There's one variable gone from the current situation in Libya.

For better or worse, Iraq set the precedent that when the U.S. "suggests" that you do something, you might wanna do it! Don't think that Gaddafi didn't have visions of Hussein swinging back and forth from the gallows when he made his decision.

[RedWingFan]

Let me be the first to thank former president Bush and Tony Blair for working with Libya and getting Gaddafi to voluntarily give up his weapons of mass destruction and his chemical weapons and to allow full access to weapon's inspectors.

Great point dude! They "worked with Libya" by making mince meat out of Iraq's mighty military and ousting Hussein. There's one variable gone from the current situation in Libya.

For better or worse, Iraq set the precedent that when the U.S. "suggests" that you do something, you might wanna do it! Don't think that Gaddafi didn't have visions of Hussein swinging back and forth from the gallows when he made his decision.

All this agreeing with each other crap is boring. Where the hell did all the Obama supporters and defenders go? A hotel in Illinois maybe?

[Rhiannon]

Where the hell did all the Obama supporters and defenders go? A hotel in Illinois maybe?

Probably taking all their dead relatives to vote for Rahm Emanuel today, if I could venture a guess.