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Postby fredinator » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:03 pm

I LOVE Resonate! Am listening to it the second time w/o watching the video--Neal's guitar on it is amazing--I think it's going to be a monster on the record.. He has a little sitar thing going on at the beginning which I just love, love, love. I was distracted by "watching" the songs and the peeps last night but I've played them a couple of times w/o looking and DAMN, rock and roll!! Lol.. I bet it is going to be fab on a cd...

Neal looks revitalized, too; I thought Ross looked really good... They defy age, it's just amazing. Rock on, Mr. Schon, lol!!
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Postby fredinator » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:21 pm

Dang, Neal really got after it on City of Hope--very melodic but screaming guitar with some wawas near the end--I am hooked on this one; thanks Rip for uploading! Also watched Kangtabel's--Neal comes across a little clearer on K's vids, I don't know why, but I'm so grateful that you all posted these, thanks very much for taking the trouble!!
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Postby fredinator » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:30 pm

That guitar Neal is playing sometimes has a vintage-type sound to it--reminds me a little of the sound on Derek and Dominos--that's what I thought of first anyway... Ramble, ramble, lol.
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Postby fredinator » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:41 pm

Last ramble but do guitars these days have long cords? I never really thought about it until after noticing that Neal is dragging a long cord around the stage that's on his guitar... That guitar is freaking awesome, Neal! **Sigh** I gotta go to bed, lol... At the end of Chain of Love I almost heard a Boston-like sound--fantastic..
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Postby SherriBerry » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:17 pm

I can't believe we are 13 pages into this thread and Deano has not posted a word on the new songs or the performance - how many days does he have left? :lol:

I'm reserving judgment until I can hear the entire album and clearly - I don't like filtering out the background concert noise and I want to give it a proper listen from beginning to end. What I did hear sounds far ahead of Revelation, so I'm looking forward to it. :wink:
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:07 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
S2M wrote:The term 'grower' is a myth. You either like something, or you don't. 'Grower' is a euphemism for 'I have to like this album, song, movie'....etc. For instance, *I'm* not a grower....you either like me, or you don't.... :lol:


Not true at all... I think it comes from having different initial expectations, then with repeated listens you learn to appreciate it for what it actually is. There is often disappointment for me at first, then after time I realize what they are trying to do. Trust me, there are albums I really want to give a good solid chance to, but after multiple listens they fail to catch on. I can't make myself like something when it just isn't there. Goes for movies too, like Superman Returns.

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I agree...For example, Queensryche's "Operation: Mindcrime". I hated it the first few times I listened to it but it's not one of my favorite albums.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:13 am

Did you mean 'now' it's one of your favorites? :) I agree! A classic! Too bad they jumped the shark never to fully return. I can't make myself believe that DeGarmo leaving didn't leave a huge hole in their songwriting ability.
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Postby S2M » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:17 am

Rip Rokken wrote:Did you mean 'now' it's one of your favorites? :) I agree! A classic! Too bad they jumped the shark never to fully return. I can't make myself believe that DeGarmo leaving didn't leave a huge hole in their songwriting ability.


Empire is just as good....maybe even better.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:24 am

S2M wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Did you mean 'now' it's one of your favorites? :) I agree! A classic! Too bad they jumped the shark never to fully return. I can't make myself believe that DeGarmo leaving didn't leave a huge hole in their songwriting ability.


Empire is just as good....maybe even better.


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Postby SilvioRodrigues » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:36 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
S2M wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Did you mean 'now' it's one of your favorites? :) I agree! A classic! Too bad they jumped the shark never to fully return. I can't make myself believe that DeGarmo leaving didn't leave a huge hole in their songwriting ability.


Empire is just as good....maybe even better.


I love Empire

Mindcrime is a masterpiece. I prefer Warning instead of Empire!!!

Warning, En Force, Deliverance, No Sanctuary, NM 156, TAKE HOLD OF THE FLAME, Before the Storm, Child of Fire and Roads to Madness...Nine songs, no fillers...A classic album !!!

Take Hold of the Flame was my favorite song to sing at the shower !!! :D
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Postby SF-Dano » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:43 am

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Don wrote:All these songs were a bit on the long side. Neal was true to his word about this album not being radio friendly. Glad to see the band breaking out of the box and trying not to simply score more songs on A/C Radio.


True. But it is possible to go heavier and darker than you were previously and at the same time have great hooks in a good song.

First example of what I'm talking about that came to me.

Great song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUTDyKofPCA


See different strokes for different folks. While I thought the Def Lep clip you posted here was a decent song, nothing jumps out to me and says "Great Song" there. Although I like the fact that this track's sound harkens back to the earlier days of Leppard, I wouldn't consider it any better than the Youtube clips of a couple of the new Journey tracks here.
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:52 am

S2M wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Did you mean 'now' it's one of your favorites? :) I agree! A classic! Too bad they jumped the shark never to fully return. I can't make myself believe that DeGarmo leaving didn't leave a huge hole in their songwriting ability.


Empire is just as good....maybe even better.


You're right, Empire is pretty incredible as well.
I think most people, myself included, would call
Mindcrime the better album just for the sheer fact
of the whole story and concept involved.

I remeber getting a copy of this off of a friend of mine when it
came out (I was in High School). The first listen impressed me but,
about mid-way through the 2nd spin, I started to really listen to the words
and realized what was actually going on... That added a whole new dimension
to the overall feeling towards this album. Even w/o the story though,
albums like Mindcrime & Empire can still stand up to anything out there being
released these days. Pure brilliance.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:00 am

found a few more Vegas videos on youtube with the best sound quality as of yet (you can actually make out some of the lyrics)....search for user f4bbest. All the new songs, and a couple of hits also
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Postby Jana » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:10 am

kgdjpubs wrote:found a few more Vegas videos on youtube with the best sound quality as of yet (you can actually make out some of the lyrics)....search for user f4bbest. All the new songs, and a couple of hits also


I just posted Resonate on the other thread by Fabbest. Here it is again. I agree. It is the best sound quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuYY9Ycz-q8
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Postby portland » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:16 am






Chain of Love is the one that to me sounds like a Journey song...the quality of these are much better.
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Postby brywool » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:19 am

MUCH better- and here I said I wasn't going to listen to the Youtubes!

City of Hope's cool.

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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:13 am



Fabbest always does a wonderful job, and so glad she captured the beginnings of those songs. The audio is also so much better. Thanks, Fabb!
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Postby Peartree12249 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:52 am

I guess I better wait and listen to the cd. So far the video's just aren't doin' it for me. I'll wait and reserve judgement until I do.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:42 am

Gorgeous haunting little riff by Neal at 0:25 and 4:07, reminds me of something off his solo records.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fswGoBEgSqU

Like TOTO's Dying on My Feet, (which Drew named song of the year), this new track, Edge of the Moment, is challenging, progressive, and really goes places. If you can't find the hook upon one take, that's a good thing. Was indifferent to it yesterday, now I can't get enough.
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Postby Jana » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:03 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Gorgeous haunting little riff by Neal at 0:25 and 4:07, reminds me of something off his solo records.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fswGoBEgSqU

Like TOTO's Dying on My Feet, (which Drew named song of the year), this new track, Edge of the Moment, is challenging, progressive, and really goes places. If you can't find the hook upon one take, that's a good thing. Was indifferent to it yesterday, now I can't get enough.


I agree. I dismissed this song yesterday. And after listening to Fabbest's video, I realized there is really something to this song. I wish the album was coming out sooner so I could really hear these songs.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:41 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Gorgeous haunting little riff by Neal at 0:25 and 4:07, reminds me of something off his solo records.

Like I said, Neel fans would probably love the record.

Being a fan of Richrath, I'd love if he got back with Speedwagon and they released another guitar heavy record.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:03 pm

RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Neel fans would probably love the record.


I'm a Journey fan foremost. It does seem tho that after the poor ticket sales for "The Neal Schon Band", Schon has decided to use Journey as his own personal showcase. I love HSAS and Sirkus, so that is just fine by me. We'll always have the dozen.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:19 pm

Chain Of Love sounds like a DIO sog .. and I'm fucking diggin' it. :)
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Postby superreverb » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:22 pm

Don't want to be pessimistic, I'm just not sure if I "Get" the new stuff - really want to hear the record - people MUST have advanced copies of Eclipse by now? maybe I'll bug that mixer guy in Nashville (Only3 hours away) to come up and listen to the record this weekend :) probably not a chance in hell !
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Postby Don » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:03 pm

I didn't see any mention of Cain falling down when his tech removed his chair withut Jon knowing it. Did he hurt his hand? Any one know?
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Postby slucero » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:08 pm

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slucero wrote:I bet they do a mixture of songs in the original key and some tuned down... .


I don't think that's feasible. All of a show will either be tuned down or not. I believe when the band is working full time
the tuning down will be full time. When they have more time off they may play some gigs in original key.



Sure its feasible... Keith Richards has been writing songs in OpenG tuning, Standard E tuning, and a number of other tunings since the 60's.

All it requires is a change of instruments - for Journey, Neal and Ross get instruments tuned to the correct key... and John simply changes his default settings on his rig.. or plays as normal. All Arnel does is pick up the key of the song from the instrumentation as the band starts...

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Postby steveo777 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:08 pm

Don wrote:I didn't see any mention of Cain falling down when his tech removed his chair withut Jon knowing it. Did he hurt his hand? Any one know?


Where did this come from and when did it happen?
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Postby Don » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:12 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:I didn't see any mention of Cain falling down when his tech removed his chair withut Jon knowing it. Did he hurt his hand? Any one know?


Where did this come from and when did it happen?

I found this info at plokker central.
At the show Wednesday night. He went to sit and since the chair wasn't there crashed down on his tush. Maybe he hit his hand on the keys while falling as he was said to be shaking it later.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:19 pm

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:I didn't see any mention of Cain falling down when his tech removed his chair withut Jon knowing it. Did he hurt his hand? Any one know?


Where did this come from and when did it happen?

I found this info at plokker central.
At the show Wednesday night. He went to sit and since the chair wasn't there crashed down on his tush. Maybe he hit his hand on the keys while falling as he was said to be shaking it later.


Kind of trivial, really. What's Perry doing tonight, stroking his kittens or counting his money, now that Journey is touring again?

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