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Postby gr8dane » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:48 am

Fact Finder wrote:
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Fact Finder wrote:Apparently the air sorties and bombing will start within hours in Libya. UN gave the go ahead with 5 Arab Nations in support of action against Gaddafi.

U.N. resolution authorizes 'all necessary measures' to protect civilians from attacks by Gadhafi's forces
about 1 hour ago via breakingnews.com

Libya airstrikes could start 'within hours of resolution'



The United Nations seems on the brink of taking a momentous decision. After hanging back for days the Americans have now not only backed the British and French resolution on Libya but beefed it up. The fact that the French foreign minister, Alain Juppe, will be here in person is a sign of French confidence that the Russians and Chinese won't block the resolution.
The latest draft I have seen goes well beyond calling for a no-fly zone. It says that the Arab League, individual nations and organizations like Nato are authorized to "take all necessary measures...to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat...including Benghazi, while excluding an occupation force."

I am told the first strikes will be unilateral ones by British and French aircraft. They could be in the air within hours. It is likely five Arab air forces will take part. Hillary Clinton has said it will mean bombing Libyan air defences. Nato will step up if asked but could take a while.

Although there have been other recent UN operations this would be the most serious intervention in a crisis for a long time, a marked contrast to the division over Iraq. That does not ease the worries of some in the administration that this will still be labeled an American war and they will be dragged deeper and deeper into the affairs of another Arab nation.



Kind of weird to read a story that says another nation outside of Russia or the US will start the bombing.



Canada to send 6 fighter jets to Libya to help enforce no-fly zone - CTV http://bit.ly/g9yHsM
about 1 hour ago via breakingnews.com

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That's all we got.So that's pretty generous I dare say.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:46 am

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Postby donnaplease » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:46 am

I think our president took a cue from the dems in Wisconsin and got the hell outta dodge so he wouldn't have to actually do the job the American people elected him to do. Very sad. :roll:
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Postby Pstburp » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:25 pm

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donnaplease wrote:I think our president took a cue from the dems in Wisconsin and got the hell outta dodge so he wouldn't have to actually do the job the American people elected him to do. Very sad. :roll:



He's in Chile because it's about the farthest place away from the radiation plume from Japan. :shock: :lol: :wink:


There are radiation in Washington State, and California
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:58 pm

Pstburp wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I think our president took a cue from the dems in Wisconsin and got the hell outta dodge so he wouldn't have to actually do the job the American people elected him to do. Very sad. :roll:



He's in Chile because it's about the farthest place away from the radiation plume from Japan. :shock: :lol: :wink:


There are radiation in Washington State, and California


I've heard they've detected additional radiation but that it's still very, very far from being anywhere close to being enough to harm anyone here.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:30 am

Pstburp wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I think our president took a cue from the dems in Wisconsin and got the hell outta dodge so he wouldn't have to actually do the job the American people elected him to do. Very sad. :roll:



He's in Chile because it's about the farthest place away from the radiation plume from Japan. :shock: :lol: :wink:


There are radiation in Washington State, and California


We use radiation to make sure all of our meat is safe. Low levels are safe and effective. The levels detected amount to nothing more than walking through an airport detector. Probably less.
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Postby slucero » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:44 am

Fact Finder wrote:Who said:


As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.



the current POTUS?

Four years ago, the Junior Senator from Illinois had this to say about the use of military force:



2. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites — a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)



Senator Obama: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action



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Postby S2M » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:38 am

And the slapstick just keeps getting more hilarious. Boehner wants Barry to 'clearly define the mission'. WOW! a republican clamoring(my word of the week) for a mission strategy/exit strategy. How quickly they forget the invasion of Iraq.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:38 am

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I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.
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Postby S2M » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:41 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.


But it was ok for Bush to go to war for oil, and because 'you insulted m'Daddy'? And get a second term by fear-mongering? Pitiful.....
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Postby verslibre » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:47 am

Pstburp wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I think our president took a cue from the dems in Wisconsin and got the hell outta dodge so he wouldn't have to actually do the job the American people elected him to do. Very sad. :roll:



He's in Chile because it's about the farthest place away from the radiation plume from Japan. :shock: :lol: :wink:


There are radiation in Washington State, and California


Some midwestern states (ID, UT, MT) have recorded higher readings of radioactive iodine, cesium and tellurium than the west coast.
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Postby slucero » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:15 am

Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...

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Postby Behshad » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:18 am

slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:
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Postby donnaplease » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:29 am

Behshad wrote:
slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:


I can't believe they don't make you produce that thing before you can even run for office... Hell, you gotta show it to get a driver's license or passport, but not to be PRESIDENT...?
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Postby Behshad » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:55 am

donnaplease wrote:
Behshad wrote:
slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:


I can't believe they don't make you produce that thing before you can even run for office... Hell, you gotta show it to get a driver's license or passport, but not to be PRESIDENT...?



So you're brainwashed too !?
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Postby Saint John » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:09 am

2 things:

First, he was probably born in Kenya, but it will never be proevn or disproven, so let's just move on.

Second, I'm ok with him unilaterally decimating a madman's arsenal. Leave him alone on that. He's done no wrong.
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Postby slucero » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:55 am

Behshad wrote:
slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:



But you can be that dense... it was a funny tardnuts... I support no party (see the big sign BELOW)... Obama has proven he's no different (morally) than his political adversaries...

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:20 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.


I'm in the "take care of America first" camp. And for every lefty you cite, I can cite a constitutionalist, like Ron Paul, with the same view.
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Postby donnaplease » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:02 am

Behshad wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
Behshad wrote:
slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:


I can't believe they don't make you produce that thing before you can even run for office... Hell, you gotta show it to get a driver's license or passport, but not to be PRESIDENT...?



So you're brainwashed too !?


I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:22 am

S2M wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.


But it was ok for Bush to go to war for oil, and because 'you insulted m'Daddy'? And get a second term by fear-mongering? Pitiful.....


Ummm...I'm pretty sure TNC didn't support that, either. Dumbass. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:24 am

donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


I don't personally put much creedence in the birther crap. However, it does give me pause that the governor of Hawaii was bragging that he was going to prove that Obama was born there and then had to backtrack when he couldn't produce.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:52 am

donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


You know, I had resolved to leave this board festering in its own ignonomy, and I've been doing pretty well steering clear of it at all costs for the past couple of weeks.

But you sicken me.

There are SO MANY irrefutable sources that have proven beyond ANY SHADOW of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii that to list even a fraction of a percent of them would take up a whole page on this topic.

You are so blissfully ignorant and brainwashed - I feel like I'm gagging on lark's vomit. Please shut up.
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Postby slucero » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:19 pm

after 2 years - its pointless to argue about Obama's birthing.. besides... it'll come out "in the wash" later... and if it's proven he wasn't born in the USA... then he'll get a big fucking asterisk next to his name.... kinda like the one Barry Bonds is about to get next to his... :lol:

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:00 pm

conversationpc wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


I don't personally put much creedence in the birther crap. However, it does give me pause that the governor of Hawaii was bragging that he was going to prove that Obama was born there and then had to backtrack when he couldn't produce.


History has proven that when it comes to presidential conspiracy theories, where there's smoke, there's usually fire. I'm with Trump - SHOW THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE! This is not to say that Obama isn't an American in his heart, but if he's not a natural born citizen, well, you know the rest...
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:01 pm

Heh heh. One of your better retorts. Well done.
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Postby donnaplease » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:25 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


You know, I had resolved to leave this board festering in its own ignonomy, and I've been doing pretty well steering clear of it at all costs for the past couple of weeks.

But you sicken me.

There are SO MANY irrefutable sources that have proven beyond ANY SHADOW of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii that to list even a fraction of a percent of them would take up a whole page on this topic.

You are so blissfully ignorant and brainwashed - I feel like I'm gagging on lark's vomit. Please shut up.


Haha... Struck a nerve, did I? Poor Daniel. :roll:
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Postby donnaplease » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:37 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
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donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


I don't personally put much creedence in the birther crap. However, it does give me pause that the governor of Hawaii was bragging that he was going to prove that Obama was born there and then had to backtrack when he couldn't produce.


History has proven that when it comes to presidential conspiracy theories, where there's smoke, there's usually fire. I'm with Trump - SHOW THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE! This is not to say that Obama isn't an American in his heart, but if he's not a natural born citizen, well, you know the rest...


It would be sooo easy to put all this to rest if he did what Trump suggested. I would think it would feel great to be able to silence those who are saying outlandish stuff about him and his upbringing. I think a responsible president would want the people to focus on things of real consequence, and this is a black & white issue - either he was born in Hawaii or he wasn't. I hope for our country's sake he was. Unfortunately some are trying to make it a "black and white" issue - he's being picked on because he's black, and no other president was asked to do this. I guess if there was some question about it, they would have been, or SHOULD have been. Then again, I can't imagine he was stupid enough to try to 'sneak' into the role of president not being legally qualified to be there.

Just show the thing.
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Postby kmjrr » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:21 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


You know, I had resolved to leave this board festering in its own ignonomy, and I've been doing pretty well steering clear of it at all costs for the past couple of weeks.

But you sicken me.

There are SO MANY irrefutable sources that have proven beyond ANY SHADOW of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii that to list even a fraction of a percent of them would take up a whole page on this topic.

You are so blissfully ignorant and brainwashed - I feel like I'm gagging on lark's vomit. Please shut up.


I've seen the pictures of the birth certificate, so fine, he was born in Hawaii. But the question is valid - When Obama got into the race for president, was he required at that time to produce the birth certificate, since American citizenship is a requirement?
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:39 am

kmjrr wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


You know, I had resolved to leave this board festering in its own ignonomy, and I've been doing pretty well steering clear of it at all costs for the past couple of weeks.

But you sicken me.

There are SO MANY irrefutable sources that have proven beyond ANY SHADOW of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii that to list even a fraction of a percent of them would take up a whole page on this topic.

You are so blissfully ignorant and brainwashed - I feel like I'm gagging on lark's vomit. Please shut up.


I've seen the pictures of the birth certificate, so fine, he was born in Hawaii. But the question is valid - When Obama got into the race for president, was he required at that time to produce the birth certificate, since American citizenship is a requirement?


Careful... apparently asking that question causes intractable nausea and foaming at the mouth. :?
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Postby Behshad » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:43 am

donnaplease wrote:
Behshad wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
Behshad wrote:
slucero wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL!

I'm cupping my hands to my ears in anticipation! :lol:


No argument from me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.



Dude, you're in the Moore, Kucinich, Waters camp? I really thought you were a bit more mainstream than that.



If they're gonna impeach the fool they outta dig up the birth certificate while they're at it...


You can't be that dumb. Um nevermind. :lol: talk about brainwashed by (bottom of) media :roll:


I can't believe they don't make you produce that thing before you can even run for office... Hell, you gotta show it to get a driver's license or passport, but not to be PRESIDENT...?



So you're brainwashed too !?


I guess if thinking that all presidential candidates should have to prove that they are qualified for the job they're seeking, then yeah, I guess I am... When I start a new job as a nurse, I have to prove that I'm qualified by producing a copy of my nursing license. Producing the birth certificate would satisfy 2 requirements - age and US citizenship. Why doesn't he just put it out there and shut everyone the hell up about it... if, that is, he has nothing to hide.


And how do you know he didnt provide it ?? Were you there???
And you can prove your US citizenship and age without a birth certificate :P
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