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iceberg wrote:being french you think mr perfect would give up by now.
conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:being french you think mr perfect would give up by now.
Those two words should never be used in the same sentence together unless it goes something like this..."The French are the perfect example of Euro-trash.

iceberg wrote:conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:being french you think mr perfect would give up by now.
Those two words should never be used in the same sentence together unless it goes something like this..."The French are the perfect example of Euro-trash.
damn. i thought i had enough sarcasm on that one... >g<
conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:being french you think mr perfect would give up by now.
Those two words should never be used in the same sentence together unless it goes something like this..."The French are the perfect example of Euro-trash.
damn. i thought i had enough sarcasm on that one... >g<
There can never be enough sarcasm.

iceberg wrote:conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:conversationpc wrote:iceberg wrote:being french you think mr perfect would give up by now.
Those two words should never be used in the same sentence together unless it goes something like this..."The French are the perfect example of Euro-trash.
damn. i thought i had enough sarcasm on that one... >g<
There can never be enough sarcasm.
saving post for a later time when i open up more...



iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.

Seven Wishes wrote:Wow, Beck is a fucking wacko. Move forward to about 2:05 or so (right before he assails Obama for the closing of five coal plants in America since 2009 which, it should be pointed out, were all in severe violation of worker safety regulations and losing money). He tells his audience they need to "pick up arms" and then points to a picture of Obama. Last time I checked, that was a federal offense.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106130022
Report: Obama overruled lawyers on Libya air war
AP – 48 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama decided he could continue the air war in Libya without congressional approval despite rulings to the contrary from Justice Department and Pentagon lawyers, according to published reports.
The president relied instead on the opinions of other senior administration lawyers that continuing U.S. participation in the air operations against the regime of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi did not constitute "hostilities," triggering the need for Congressional permission under the War Powers Resolution, the New York Times reported in its online edition Friday night.
Among those reported to support the president's action were White House counsel Robert Bauer and State Department legal adviser Harold H. Koh, the paper said. Those opposed included Pentagon General Counsel Jeh C. Johnson and acting head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel Caroline D. Krass.
One issue was reported to be whether firing missiles from drones amounted to hostilities.
Presidents can ignore the advice of the Office of Legal Counsel, but rarely do so, the newspaper reported.
The 1973 law prohibits the military from being involved in actions for more than 60 days without congressional authorization, plus a 30-day extension. The 60-day deadline passed last month with the White House saying it is in compliance with the law. The 90-day mark is Sunday.
White House spokesman Jay Carney addressed the internal debate over the resolution at his briefing Thursday.
He said "there was a robust process through which the president received the advice he relied on in determining the application" of the War Powers Resolution.
He noted the resolution has been subject to intense debate since it was first enacted in 1973.
"We are not going to get into the internal process by which the president receives legal advice," Carney said. "It should come as no surprise that there would be some disagreements, even within an administration, regarding the application of a statute that is nearly 40 years old to a unique and evolving conflict. Those disagreements are ordinary and healthy"

parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.

slucero wrote:whoa...
This bullshit needs to end... no president should be able to commit to hostilities with out congressional approvalReport: Obama overruled lawyers on Libya air war
AP – 48 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama decided he could continue the air war in Libya without congressional approval despite rulings to the contrary from Justice Department and Pentagon lawyers, according to published reports.
The president relied instead on the opinions of other senior administration lawyers that continuing U.S. participation in the air operations against the regime of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi did not constitute "hostilities," triggering the need for Congressional permission under the War Powers Resolution, the New York Times reported in its online edition Friday night.
Among those reported to support the president's action were White House counsel Robert Bauer and State Department legal adviser Harold H. Koh, the paper said. Those opposed included Pentagon General Counsel Jeh C. Johnson and acting head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel Caroline D. Krass.
One issue was reported to be whether firing missiles from drones amounted to hostilities.
Presidents can ignore the advice of the Office of Legal Counsel, but rarely do so, the newspaper reported.
The 1973 law prohibits the military from being involved in actions for more than 60 days without congressional authorization, plus a 30-day extension. The 60-day deadline passed last month with the White House saying it is in compliance with the law. The 90-day mark is Sunday.
White House spokesman Jay Carney addressed the internal debate over the resolution at his briefing Thursday.
He said "there was a robust process through which the president received the advice he relied on in determining the application" of the War Powers Resolution.
He noted the resolution has been subject to intense debate since it was first enacted in 1973.
"We are not going to get into the internal process by which the president receives legal advice," Carney said. "It should come as no surprise that there would be some disagreements, even within an administration, regarding the application of a statute that is nearly 40 years old to a unique and evolving conflict. Those disagreements are ordinary and healthy"

steveo777 wrote:slucero wrote:whoa...
This bullshit needs to end... no president should be able to commit to hostilities with out congressional approvalReport: Obama overruled lawyers on Libya air war
AP – 48 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama decided he could continue the air war in Libya without congressional approval despite rulings to the contrary from Justice Department and Pentagon lawyers, according to published reports.
The president relied instead on the opinions of other senior administration lawyers that continuing U.S. participation in the air operations against the regime of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi did not constitute "hostilities," triggering the need for Congressional permission under the War Powers Resolution, the New York Times reported in its online edition Friday night.
Among those reported to support the president's action were White House counsel Robert Bauer and State Department legal adviser Harold H. Koh, the paper said. Those opposed included Pentagon General Counsel Jeh C. Johnson and acting head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel Caroline D. Krass.
One issue was reported to be whether firing missiles from drones amounted to hostilities.
Presidents can ignore the advice of the Office of Legal Counsel, but rarely do so, the newspaper reported.
The 1973 law prohibits the military from being involved in actions for more than 60 days without congressional authorization, plus a 30-day extension. The 60-day deadline passed last month with the White House saying it is in compliance with the law. The 90-day mark is Sunday.
White House spokesman Jay Carney addressed the internal debate over the resolution at his briefing Thursday.
He said "there was a robust process through which the president received the advice he relied on in determining the application" of the War Powers Resolution.
He noted the resolution has been subject to intense debate since it was first enacted in 1973.
"We are not going to get into the internal process by which the president receives legal advice," Carney said. "It should come as no surprise that there would be some disagreements, even within an administration, regarding the application of a statute that is nearly 40 years old to a unique and evolving conflict. Those disagreements are ordinary and healthy"
Dick head....you can't commit hostilities against the hostile.
And for 2012, no more primates as president, mmmmmkay?

Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell



iceberg wrote:Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
well, what i really find both ironic and actually pretty normal, is he's sitting there thinking *we* know it all while he sits up there and tells us what we should know. how does he know what we should know unless *HE* knew it all? but he's too arrogant to see he is what he portends to hate.
there's no doubt in my mind we should work better with our environment. there's also no doubt in my mind global warming is a hoax as given.

parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
well, what i really find both ironic and actually pretty normal, is he's sitting there thinking *we* know it all while he sits up there and tells us what we should know. how does he know what we should know unless *HE* knew it all? but he's too arrogant to see he is what he portends to hate.
there's no doubt in my mind we should work better with our environment. there's also no doubt in my mind global warming is a hoax as given.
I'm not telling you what you should know. I'm presenting the facts to you - the reality of things. Not an opinion based on any of my own experiences or through anecdotal evidence. The theory of evolution provides a sound analogy: Both views have won broad acceptance by the vast majority of scientific experts and now only come under fire from a small band of contrarian outliers. Moreover, the outliers aren't contributing much real science at this point. With a few exceptions, they're taking their case straight to journalists and public policymakers, an end run around the peer-review process.
I mean, if you want to stay in your own dream world, then that's your problem - but don't for a second think you're right.
Memorex wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
well, what i really find both ironic and actually pretty normal, is he's sitting there thinking *we* know it all while he sits up there and tells us what we should know. how does he know what we should know unless *HE* knew it all? but he's too arrogant to see he is what he portends to hate.
there's no doubt in my mind we should work better with our environment. there's also no doubt in my mind global warming is a hoax as given.
I'm not telling you what you should know. I'm presenting the facts to you - the reality of things. Not an opinion based on any of my own experiences or through anecdotal evidence. The theory of evolution provides a sound analogy: Both views have won broad acceptance by the vast majority of scientific experts and now only come under fire from a small band of contrarian outliers. Moreover, the outliers aren't contributing much real science at this point. With a few exceptions, they're taking their case straight to journalists and public policymakers, an end run around the peer-review process.
I mean, if you want to stay in your own dream world, then that's your problem - but don't for a second think you're right.
Can I ask how your personal environment is any different today than when you were a kid? There was more smog when I was a kid, so I have seen an improvement there. My mom wouldn't let me turn on the air during those hot summer days when I was young and now as the adult that pays the bill, I can. So that's an improvement. Anyway, other than that I have not experienced any change whatsoever. Have you?

parfait wrote:Memorex wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
well, what i really find both ironic and actually pretty normal, is he's sitting there thinking *we* know it all while he sits up there and tells us what we should know. how does he know what we should know unless *HE* knew it all? but he's too arrogant to see he is what he portends to hate.
there's no doubt in my mind we should work better with our environment. there's also no doubt in my mind global warming is a hoax as given.
I'm not telling you what you should know. I'm presenting the facts to you - the reality of things. Not an opinion based on any of my own experiences or through anecdotal evidence. The theory of evolution provides a sound analogy: Both views have won broad acceptance by the vast majority of scientific experts and now only come under fire from a small band of contrarian outliers. Moreover, the outliers aren't contributing much real science at this point. With a few exceptions, they're taking their case straight to journalists and public policymakers, an end run around the peer-review process.
I mean, if you want to stay in your own dream world, then that's your problem - but don't for a second think you're right.
Can I ask how your personal environment is any different today than when you were a kid? There was more smog when I was a kid, so I have seen an improvement there. My mom wouldn't let me turn on the air during those hot summer days when I was young and now as the adult that pays the bill, I can. So that's an improvement. Anyway, other than that I have not experienced any change whatsoever. Have you?
What I've experienced is irrelevant, because that's anecdotal evidence, which are in such matters of little value in establishing the probability of the claims they are put forth to support. If modern science has learned anything in the past century, it is to distrust anecdotal evidence
Memorex wrote:parfait wrote:Memorex wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:Fact Finder wrote:parfait wrote:iceberg wrote:by now i wonder if the poor little guy is still under the delusion that anyone really cares what he thinks. : )
about this anyway.
That's the whole core of the subject; you and the other rednecks have made up your mind already. "no way no sciense community are gonna knov better than me durr". You could've learned something today.
Couldn't honestly care less if some average, undereducated and dumb American like yourself, bashes France though - so you just go ahead.
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
well, what i really find both ironic and actually pretty normal, is he's sitting there thinking *we* know it all while he sits up there and tells us what we should know. how does he know what we should know unless *HE* knew it all? but he's too arrogant to see he is what he portends to hate.
there's no doubt in my mind we should work better with our environment. there's also no doubt in my mind global warming is a hoax as given.
I'm not telling you what you should know. I'm presenting the facts to you - the reality of things. Not an opinion based on any of my own experiences or through anecdotal evidence. The theory of evolution provides a sound analogy: Both views have won broad acceptance by the vast majority of scientific experts and now only come under fire from a small band of contrarian outliers. Moreover, the outliers aren't contributing much real science at this point. With a few exceptions, they're taking their case straight to journalists and public policymakers, an end run around the peer-review process.
I mean, if you want to stay in your own dream world, then that's your problem - but don't for a second think you're right.
Can I ask how your personal environment is any different today than when you were a kid? There was more smog when I was a kid, so I have seen an improvement there. My mom wouldn't let me turn on the air during those hot summer days when I was young and now as the adult that pays the bill, I can. So that's an improvement. Anyway, other than that I have not experienced any change whatsoever. Have you?
What I've experienced is irrelevant, because that's anecdotal evidence, which are in such matters of little value in establishing the probability of the claims they are put forth to support. If modern science has learned anything in the past century, it is to distrust anecdotal evidence
Sorry, but that's not what we are being told. We are told of extreme changes now. 100 foot waves. 20 foot ocean rise. Worse hurricanes and other. So you can't have all your guys saying that, but then dismiss it as anecdotal when it doesn't occur. The scare tactics are used to take our money. Can you at least admit that for God's sake?

Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama


Seven Wishes wrote:Well, it just comes down to whether or not the GOP can field a viable candidate outside of Romney (unlikely) and whether people believe we're better off than we would have been under Republican leadership that saw the unemployment rate more than double and brought us from a surplus to a deficit.
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