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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:31 am

Everyone that posted in this thread (minus this poster) took it in the butt!!! :lol: :wink: I'm just being a smart-ass of course. Anyone convicted of this shit needs to go to prison and share a cell with Bubba. Pretty sick. I hope all involved (and the school especially) pay up to all involved. What a sick fucker. :?
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:54 pm

I can't fathom how anyone can be so disgusting as to enjoy sticking their crank in a little boy's butt. :evil:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:28 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
perryswoman wrote:Although the bail is still way too low inmo, at least he will have a moniotr. He's gonna fry for sure


If he doesn't commit suicide first.


Frankly, I'm shocked that he didn't do it while out on bail for the last 3~ weeks. That was my first thought upon hearing he posted bail. Shocked he hasn't. I still haven't ruled out the possibility that there are more sinister things at work here. Has Sandusky's family been threatened if he talks or kills himself (i.e., not taking the fall for this thing)?


Agreed...I am CERTAIN if he's still not up to his tricks, he is DAMN well trying to....just too much heat now.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:43 am

Now that she's been implicated in at least being a passive enabler, Sandusky's C U NT wife decides to speak up NOW after over a month has passed denying all the charges? Sorry "Dottie" (what a crusty old C U NT of a name btw), no one's buying it. I hope you rot in jail too you twat.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:29 am

ebake02 wrote:Yes, a distinction must be made between the standard for reporting a story and the moral obligation to report a potential sex crime against minors. Still, if we, the media, are going to hold the likes of Joe Paterno to a certain standard, then we'd better hold ourselves up to the same standard. We may be a part of the "media," but we're people first.

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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:32 am

G.I.Jim wrote:Everyone that posted in this thread (minus this poster) took it in the butt!!! :lol: :wink: I'm just being a smart-ass of course. Anyone convicted of this shit needs to go to prison and share a cell with Bubba. Pretty sick. I hope all involved (and the school especially) pay up to all involved. What a sick fucker. :?
He is a sick fucker ...you and I may even know a sick fucker or two!! :shock:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:33 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Now that she's been implicated in at least being a passive enabler, Sandusky's C U NT wife decides to speak up NOW after over a month has passed denying all the charges? Sorry "Dottie" (what a crusty old C U NT of a name btw), no one's buying it. I hope you rot in jail too you twat.

Damn my parents ... :wink:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:48 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:Everyone that posted in this thread (minus this poster) took it in the butt!!! :lol: :wink: I'm just being a smart-ass of course. Anyone convicted of this shit needs to go to prison and share a cell with Bubba. Pretty sick. I hope all involved (and the school especially) pay up to all involved. What a sick fucker. :?
He is a sick fucker ...you and I may even know a sick fucker or two!! :shock:


??? :shock: I don't get it? :lol: And what's up with that potty mouth girl? Only I'm supposed to talk like that when I drunk post! :D :wink:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:51 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Now that she's been implicated in at least being a passive enabler, Sandusky's C U NT wife decides to speak up NOW after over a month has passed denying all the charges? Sorry "Dottie" (what a crusty old C U NT of a name btw), no one's buying it. I hope you rot in jail too you twat.

Damn my parents ... :wink:


Oh can it you, your name is Christine or something isn't it?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:12 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:Everyone that posted in this thread (minus this poster) took it in the butt!!! :lol: :wink: I'm just being a smart-ass of course. Anyone convicted of this shit needs to go to prison and share a cell with Bubba. Pretty sick. I hope all involved (and the school especially) pay up to all involved. What a sick fucker. :?
He is a sick fucker ...you and I may even know a sick fucker or two!! :shock:


??? :shock: I don't get it? :lol: And what's up with that potty mouth girl? Only I'm supposed to talk like that when I drunk post! :D :wink:

No subliminal messages or insinuations, my point is that any one of us could know someone, seemingly wonderful, with
a very dark side and be totally unaware of "the secret" ... I, for one, know that I don't want to be judged based
on the character of another ...

RE: sick fucker ...I was quoting you!!

lol ...I don't drink at work!! :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Now that she's been implicated in at least being a passive enabler, Sandusky's C U NT wife decides to speak up NOW after over a month has passed denying all the charges? Sorry "Dottie" (what a crusty old C U NT of a name btw), no one's buying it. I hope you rot in jail too you twat.

Damn my parents ... :wink:


Oh can it you, your name is Christine or something isn't it?

:lol: ...just joshing you!!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:45 am

I'm pretty sure FF should be posting a news report featuring Sandusky's atty. and basic hygiene skills!! :wink:
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Postby Fact Finder » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:22 am

It appears Penn. St. did the right thing in letting JoePa go...to bad Joe didnt do the right thing 9 years ago.




#BREAKING: Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."

Submitted 1 hour agofrom twitter.com/PeterAlexander by editor
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Postby slucero » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:59 pm

just saw that...

JoePa.... say goodbye to your legacy... and deservedly so.

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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:05 am

Fact Finder wrote:It appears Penn. St. did the right thing in letting JoePa go...to bad Joe didnt do the right thing 9 years ago.




#BREAKING: Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."

Submitted 1 hour agofrom twitter.com/PeterAlexander by editor

Was watching the play by play yesterday and I don't recall hearing this quote ...
it's incomplete, perhaps!?!
Have not heard anything that turns me, yet!!

*edit*

http://trendingsearches.net/joe-paterno ... ted-a-day/

In the testimony, Joe Paterno said he “knew inappropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster” after a meeting with then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary, who allegedly saw Sandusky sexually abusing a boy in a locker room shower the previous night, but did not inform police and waited at least a day to inform his boss, athletic director Tim Curley, because he “didn’t want to interfere with their weekends.”

This?! ^^^^Nothing new, sorry Pete!!
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:37 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:It appears Penn. St. did the right thing in letting JoePa go...to bad Joe didnt do the right thing 9 years ago.




#BREAKING: Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."

Submitted 1 hour agofrom twitter.com/PeterAlexander by editor

Was watching the play by play yesterday and I don't recall hearing this quote ...


This is the only place I've seen this "quote" as well. Not saying FF made it up either just haven't heard it anywhere else.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:41 am

Peter Alexander tweeted a portion of a quote and called it breaking
news ...legal, even if said quote is taken out of context (contextomy/quote mining)..
and reported weeks later :?

contextomy~though rarely employed to this malicious extreme, contextomy is a common method of misrepresentation in
contemporary mass media, and studies have demonstrated that the effects of this misrepresentation can linger even after
the audience is exposed to the original, in context, quote
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:50 am

Very interesting Michigan Girl.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:02 am


Great article, thanks, FU ...made me tear!!

Absolutley everything that I knew in my heart!!
I hope someone rights this wrong, before his demise ...
for the children, the university and Joepa!!

The Paternos say they think about the real potential victims every time they look at their own children.
“I got three boys and two girls,” Paterno said. “It’s sickening.” His knee-jerk response is to go back to
Flatbush. “Violence is not the way to handle it,” he said. “But for me, I’d get a bunch of guys and say let’s go
punch somebody in the nose.” Sue Paterno is more blunt. “If someone touched my child, there wouldn’t be a trial,
I would have killed them,” she said. “That would be my attitude, because you have destroyed someone for life.”
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:41 am

Here's another fantasic article/viewpoint that was brought to my attention, this one by Lavar Arrington.
It's just the opinion/viewpoint of one man, but I'm hanging on to my belief in Joepa, you haters can let
me have it in the event it's discovered he's a liar!! :wink:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/har ... _blog.html

As you all can imagine, the Penn State child sex abuse scandal has been a very taxing time for so many people, including myself. Emotions have been running high in the aftermath of everything that has happened over the last months, and it was interesting to receive some perspective from my old coach.

While reading Sally Jenkins’s interview with Joe Paterno, I naturally cross-referenced some of his answers with my memories, as I was there from 1997-99 — the time an investigation of Sandusky had taken place. Of course, coaches are more in the know about information pertaining to the team than players, so I can't confirm for coaches but I honestly believe that Paterno did not know of the investigation. State College, Pa., is a very small place. If knowledge of the investigation had surfaced in any way it would have leaked out and everyone would have known, basically the same way everything has unfolded now. I know that players on the team definitely had no knowledge of any information like this. Again, any news was news in our locker room so it would have spread like crazy among players.

As Penn State football players we were held to such a high standards and would be conveniently reminded through something called “awareness training,” which was a training session specifically designed for those who fell below that standard set for us. It was a clear message to do things right or suffer the consequences.

Because as players we were held to that standard and were disciplined if we wavered, we had no problem with pointing out double standards. If the players had known about any coaches doing wrong, we would have demanded an explanation.

My understanding as it pertained to Jerry Sandusky's retirement, which also was my final year there, was kind of along the same lines as what Paterno said. I was under the impression that after Sandusky realized that Paterno was planning on staying and that he would not have the chance to be head coach, with such a talented group on defense and so many graduating at the end of the year, this would be the perfect time for him to leave. Maybe that's some of my ego involved, but we were a talented group which boasted the No. 1 and No. 2 picks in the 2000 draft along with more draft picks off that defense. So it didn't seem strange at all that he would leave after the 1999 season, especially how active he was with The Second Mile. I figured he'd do that for a few years and then go coach somewhere else.

Reading the interview and knowing the man doing the interview, it came across that his answers were his answers. Coach Paterno is a face-value type of guy. It's well documented that Joe and I weren't the best of friends — I was never one of his favorites — but he never lied to me. There's not one time I can recall that Joe Paterno lied to me. Made me mad? Yes. Got under my skin? Yes. Challenged me and pushed me to be more than just a football player? Yes. He never lied to me. As a matter of fact, his sometimes-painful honesty is partly why I'm so blunt in my responses to questions at times.

I could also feel Coach Paterno’s pain through his words in the interview. So many people have rushed to judge of him and the entire situation. Knowing Coach, he's probably more upset about the negative view of the school rather than himself. He loves Penn State so much and he dedicated his life to making it a great place to be educated — not a boast, just the truth. After all, his hard work, effort and yes, his money, made the place what it is today.

I am not a Joe Paterno apologist, but I do know that he stood for right and taught right and my interpretation of the tone of his interview was it's a man offering his truth as he fights lung cancer. God forbid anything happened to him before all of the facts come out, but it seems as though he has told his side and people can take it or leave it, but at the least he did offer how he saw the situation.

It’s my opinion that Paterno and the football program that he built have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb to the media and the public by those who should've made sure that this situation was handled properly. It's so apparent that the easiest way to distance themselves from the truth is to allow others to shoulder the weight of their insufficiencies. After all, nobody knows the names of the decision makers, but everyone knows Joe Paterno.

Looking at how things have been handled by the board of trustees since the arrest of Jerry Sandusky, along with the handling of the search for a coach, all roads they choose seem to lead to dead ends, and that's why they have taken so long to make decisions and have received so much criticism from alumni and current students. It's not right how these people used him, and for that matter, Penn State football. But it will all come out in the wash eventually, and I hope Paterno is around to see it happen.
They say that those things built upon solid foundations can endure all kinds of catastrophes, so if what Joe has built is truly real, it will take way more than the evil actions of a few to tear down what he spent a lifetime building.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:42 am

Joe shoulda had more gray put into that wig.
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Postby RPM » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:03 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:Here's another fantasic article/viewpoint that was brought to my attention, this one by Lavar Arrington.
It's just the opinion/viewpoint of one man, but I'm hanging on to my belief in Joepa, you haters can let
me have it in the event it's discovered he's a liar!! :wink:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/har ... _blog.html

As you all can imagine, the Penn State child sex abuse scandal has been a very taxing time for so many people, including myself. Emotions have been running high in the aftermath of everything that has happened over the last months, and it was interesting to receive some perspective from my old coach.

While reading Sally Jenkins’s interview with Joe Paterno, I naturally cross-referenced some of his answers with my memories, as I was there from 1997-99 — the time an investigation of Sandusky had taken place. Of course, coaches are more in the know about information pertaining to the team than players, so I can't confirm for coaches but I honestly believe that Paterno did not know of the investigation. State College, Pa., is a very small place. If knowledge of the investigation had surfaced in any way it would have leaked out and everyone would have known, basically the same way everything has unfolded now. I know that players on the team definitely had no knowledge of any information like this. Again, any news was news in our locker room so it would have spread like crazy among players.

As Penn State football players we were held to such a high standards and would be conveniently reminded through something called “awareness training,” which was a training session specifically designed for those who fell below that standard set for us. It was a clear message to do things right or suffer the consequences.

Because as players we were held to that standard and were disciplined if we wavered, we had no problem with pointing out double standards. If the players had known about any coaches doing wrong, we would have demanded an explanation.

My understanding as it pertained to Jerry Sandusky's retirement, which also was my final year there, was kind of along the same lines as what Paterno said. I was under the impression that after Sandusky realized that Paterno was planning on staying and that he would not have the chance to be head coach, with such a talented group on defense and so many graduating at the end of the year, this would be the perfect time for him to leave. Maybe that's some of my ego involved, but we were a talented group which boasted the No. 1 and No. 2 picks in the 2000 draft along with more draft picks off that defense. So it didn't seem strange at all that he would leave after the 1999 season, especially how active he was with The Second Mile. I figured he'd do that for a few years and then go coach somewhere else.

Reading the interview and knowing the man doing the interview, it came across that his answers were his answers. Coach Paterno is a face-value type of guy. It's well documented that Joe and I weren't the best of friends — I was never one of his favorites — but he never lied to me. There's not one time I can recall that Joe Paterno lied to me. Made me mad? Yes. Got under my skin? Yes. Challenged me and pushed me to be more than just a football player? Yes. He never lied to me. As a matter of fact, his sometimes-painful honesty is partly why I'm so blunt in my responses to questions at times.

I could also feel Coach Paterno’s pain through his words in the interview. So many people have rushed to judge of him and the entire situation. Knowing Coach, he's probably more upset about the negative view of the school rather than himself. He loves Penn State so much and he dedicated his life to making it a great place to be educated — not a boast, just the truth. After all, his hard work, effort and yes, his money, made the place what it is today.

I am not a Joe Paterno apologist, but I do know that he stood for right and taught right and my interpretation of the tone of his interview was it's a man offering his truth as he fights lung cancer. God forbid anything happened to him before all of the facts come out, but it seems as though he has told his side and people can take it or leave it, but at the least he did offer how he saw the situation.

It’s my opinion that Paterno and the football program that he built have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb to the media and the public by those who should've made sure that this situation was handled properly. It's so apparent that the easiest way to distance themselves from the truth is to allow others to shoulder the weight of their insufficiencies. After all, nobody knows the names of the decision makers, but everyone knows Joe Paterno.

Looking at how things have been handled by the board of trustees since the arrest of Jerry Sandusky, along with the handling of the search for a coach, all roads they choose seem to lead to dead ends, and that's why they have taken so long to make decisions and have received so much criticism from alumni and current students. It's not right how these people used him, and for that matter, Penn State football. But it will all come out in the wash eventually, and I hope Paterno is around to see it happen.
They say that those things built upon solid foundations can endure all kinds of catastrophes, so if what Joe has built is truly real, it will take way more than the evil actions of a few to tear down what he spent a lifetime building.


What a pathetic piece of writing. must be part of the penn state cult.

"Paterno and the football program that he built have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb to the media and the public by those who should've made sure that this situation was handled properly"

Actually making sure it was handled properly is what paterno was supposed to do dumb ass.

"but I do know that he stood for right and taught right "

Until it came down to his reputation and the "institutions"

"so if what Joe has built is truly real, it will take way more than the evil actions of a few to tear down what he spent a lifetime building"

his blind eye and others have already taken care of that. his legacy is ruined as it should be.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:50 am

RPM wrote:What a pathetic piece of writing. must be part of the penn state cult.

"Paterno and the football program that he built have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb to the media and the public by those who should've made sure that this situation was handled properly"

Actually making sure it was handled properly is what paterno was supposed to do dumb ass.

"but I do know that he stood for right and taught right "

Until it came down to his reputation and the "institutions"

"so if what Joe has built is truly real, it will take way more than the evil actions of a few to tear down what he spent a lifetime building"

his blind eye and others have already taken care of that. his legacy is ruined as it should be.

It's an incredible piece, it's just not the one sided/your side, judgmental witch
hunt that most folks are accustomed to ...and seem to enjoy!! It's the off with his head people, such
as yourself, who have taken the focus off of the real issue and the real criminals (which has not been proven either).
When you/anyone can come up with some solid evidence that Joepa knew of his ex~associates outside activities
prior to reporting it, and/or was deliberately involved in a cover~up, I'll gladly admit the error of my ways.
If Joepa were withholding information for as many years as Sandusky allegedly raped little boys, I feel certain we,
JOE PUBLIC, would/will know/hear about it. The only evidence the media can provide at this point are partial quotes
(made into lies) and opinions.

For now, more great articles by Lavar ...

http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/lavar-arrin ... dusky.html

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redsk ... te-scandal
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Postby Fact Finder » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:49 am

Penn State's Joe Paterno is gravely ill and nearing death, as his family rushes to his side

Pennlive.com 1-20-2012

Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:58:56 PM

Legendary former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno is gravely ill and his family is rushing to State College to be by his side, his family has confirmed

According to Onward State, Paterno was taken off of a respirator earlier today. However, the Paterno family has not confirmed that report.

Facebook and Twitter are flooded with students and fans saying that they are praying for Joe and for the Paterno family.

“Over the last few days Joe Paterno has experienced further health complications,” spokesman Dan McGinn said in a brief statement Saturday to The Associated Press. “His doctors have now characterized his status as serious."

“His family will have no comment on the situation and asks that their privacy be respected during this difficult time,” he said.
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Postby Fact Finder » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:24 pm

Breaking News

Update: Reports of former Penn State coach Joe Paterno's death untrue - NBC News
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Postby Fact Finder » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:25 pm

Update: Paterno family spokesperson Dan McGinn says former Penn State coach remains in serious condition - NBC News

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Postby Fact Finder » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:00 am

Uh-Oh...



Feds launch criminal probe in Sandusky case, subpoena Penn State records


By Michael Isikoff
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Federal prosecutors have subpoenaed documents and computer hard drives from Penn State University as part of a new criminal probe into what school officials and board members may have known about alleged child sex abuse by former football defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, three sources familiar with the case tell NBC News.

Investigators are also trying to determine if Penn State board members may have made previously undisclosed payments to "third parties" relating to Sandusky, according to two of the sources, both of whom have direct knowledge of the subpoena.

The broad scope of the subpoena, the existence of which was confirmed by a university spokeswoman, indicates that federal agents may be investigating a potential cover-up of Sandusky's alleged abuse by top school officials, according to the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The sources said it seeks records -- including internal emails -- dating to 1998 from the computers and files of three former top Penn State officials: former President Graham Spanier, former Athletic Director Tim Curley and former Vice President Gary Schultz, who was in charge of the campus police.

All three were named in a Pennsylvania state grand jury report in November as having been told about an allegation relating to Sandusky and a young boy in the school's athletic locker room in 2002. Spanier subsequently resigned and Curley and Schultz were were fired by the university. All have denied any wrongdoing.

The subpoena also seeks records about Penn State board members and The Second Mile, the charity for troubled children that Sandusky founded, the sources said. The subpoena was signed by two federal prosecutors in the office of U.S. Attorney Peter Smith in Harrisburg, Pa. on Feb. 2 and demands that all records be turned over by Feb. 29, they said.

Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers confirmed the university had received the subpoena, saying, "The university is fully cooperating with this request for information." She declined further comment.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Harrisburg declined to comment.

Pennsylvania state prosecutors have charged Sandusky with more than 50 counts of child sex abuse involving 10 young boys over a 15-year period. He has denied the charges and a trial has been set for May. NBC News reported in December that federal prosecutors were considering whether to open a separate probe because of allegations that Sandusky may have transported a boy who he allegedly abused across state lines -- to out of state bowl games in Tampa and San Antonio. Federal officials were also trying to determine if Sandusky used computers to communicate with or solicit his alleged victims -- another potential violation of federal law, a federal law enforcement official told NBC News.

The confirmation of the subpoena by Penn State is the first concrete sign that the federal criminal investigation has already begun. A spokesman for the Pennsylvania State Attorney General's Office declined to comment, saying only that the office is "in close communications" with federal law enforcement officials, including the U.S. Attorney's Office in Harrisburg.
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Re: I Admit The Sandusky Situation Is A Bad Look.

Postby Fact Finder » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:52 am

Some justice, Finally.

Three former Penn State administrators are going to jail for their part in the Jerry Sandusky scandal at Penn State.
Former president Graham Spanier, former vice president Gary Schultz and former athletic director Tim Curley were sentenced on Friday on child endangerment charges, according to the Associated Press...

Former President Graham Spanier, 68, was sentenced to four to 12 months, with the first two in jail and the rest under house arrest. He was convicted of child endangerment.

Former athletic director Tim Curley, 63, received a sentence of seven to 23 months, with three in jail. Former vice president Gary Schultz, 67, was given six to 23 months, with two months behind bars. They pleaded guilty to child endangerment.

''It really sickens me to think I might have played a part in children being hurt," Schultz said.

The sentencing comes about five and a half years after Sandusky, a longtime Penn State assistant, was indicted for child molestation. Sandusky is serving 30-to-60 years in prison.

The trio of former admins will begin their respective sentences on July 15.
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