President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Behshad]

The majority of Americans (76% to 80%) identify themselves as Christians. _Source: CIA Fact Book 2002




"Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

[slucero]

My initial reaction to most posts by B, Monker and TNC is to laugh, but in reality I understand that they are serious and quite frankly it scares me to death. They wont even admit to last nights fuck up at their own Convention regarding God in the platform. Telling.

Last nights fuck up !? Dude Last night secured the white house for Obama for another 4 years.
you know, no matter how brianwashed you are, at least you take pride in your party and you admit youre a republican. Then we have others around here who claim that they hate both parties , yet they bash democrats 100% and republicans 0% . Wonder why theyre ashamed of fessing up that theyre republicans ?

You must mean me... I was a Republican for 32 years... turned in my card and am now a registered independent.

Clinton is/was a philanderer who legislated this country into depression (consequence of deregulating banking)

Bush was an idiot who spent this country into recession (2 wars, un-patiotic Patriot Act, among other other stupid shit)

Obama's record speaks for itself.


Rupublicrats, Demicans... call em whatever you want.. they represent business and themselves... they certainly don't represent Joe American.. haven't for a long time...



When you can actually speak about something, because you actually KNOW about it (like Monker, TNC or 7 Wishes).. you might be worth listening to.. until then you should just shut the fuck up and read & maybe learn somehing...

...or continue posting and keep getting yer ass handed to ya.

[Monker]

Promoting the so called "American Dream" message only applies to those who spend their time looking for handouts and the non-US born masses, it no longer applies to the hard working American born people.

Promoting the American dream isn't wrong. He did what he thought was right for the people at the time.
Not his fault that economy took a dump after him thanks to Bush

And, it also doesn't apply to those who profess they are moving to Japan and don't care what happens in this country anyway.

Me going to Japan has nothing to do with the "American Dream" you moron.

Exactly, the American Dream has nothing to do with you.

[Monker]

It doesn't matter...it's still true today.

But, it's irrelevant. Asking people in a poll about their religion identification is different then asking if they go to church regularly, support the evangelical leanings of some church leaders, or regularly read, believe, and follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible.

What this poll means is 80% of Americans believe in a Christian God...but what version of that God they believe in, how spiritual they are, and how faithful is completely unknown.

The majority of Americans (76% to 80%) identify themselves as Christians. _Source: CIA Fact Book 2002




"Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

[Monker]

Must be the same stuff that Republicans drank when they thought it was OK to take rifles to a Obama speech not too long ago.

Hypocrite.

What in gods name is in the water in Charlotte?

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A spokesman for the Secret Service told The Daily Caller that the agency is aware of video showing a delegate at the Democratic National Convention expressing a desire to “kill” Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

“We are aware of it,” Secret Service spokesman George Ogilvie told TheDC on Thursday.

He said the department is “taking the appropriate follow-up steps” with the woman.

Video surfaced on Wednesday of a woman identifying herself as New York delegate Julia Rodriguez telling The Blaze, “If I see him” — in reference to Romney — “I would like to kill him.”

In the video, Rodriguez says she’s from Puerto Rico but she now lives in New York. She expressed her desire to kill the Republican nominee after saying “Romney will destroy this country.”

Florida DNC Boss: Christians Want Jews Slaughtered...

DNC delegates: Let's ban corporate profits!

WH retweets: 'WORKING PEEPS SLAVES 2 WALL ST!'

Bob Woodward book leaks... Developing...

Debt Deal Collapse Led to 'Pure Fury' From Obama...

Explosive mix of dysfunction, miscommunication, and misunderstandings...

Pelosi 'reached over and pressed mute button on her phone' as Obama talked... MORE

WOODWARD: White House so stunned by 2010 GOP triumph, it didn't even have Boehner's phone number...

[StevePerryHair]

I asked my husband this question this morning....and I'll ask it here. Where were the other living former republican presidents during the RNC? He said he read something about the Bushes both being too controversial or something to speak? I don't think I buy that though, and I think it's a mistake that will bite the party. I mean we have a well liked former president for the Dems helping them off the fence, to their side. I think the republicans needed the same thing. I mean please, wasn't Clinton pretty controversial himself?? And I know tons of republicans who loved Bush. I mean he was there 8 years. It makes no sense to me.

Instead they had a keynote by Chris Christie. Who I happen to like, for his direct approach at things. But what did he do? Spent 99% of his speech talking about himself and NJ. Romney made it in there at the very end. I don't feel a deep connection between Christie and Romney, so I think it's weird he was the keynote.

I think Republicans should be concerned over what took place with Clinton. It just may have made a really big difference.

[Monker]

Gallup: Obama Enjoys Massive Lead Among Those With No Religion

In the three-week period that ended on Sept. 3, according to Gallup, Obama led Romney 69 percent to 23 percent among those who have no religion.

I go to Gallup.com to see if I can verify this...and this is what I see. Talk about headlines. Wow, Republicans are in trouble...


Romney Gets No Bounce From Last Week's GOP Convention
Support was 47% before convention and 46% after
September 4, 2012
GOP Convention, Romney Speech Evoke Lukewarm Reactions
Speech gets lowest ratings of any Gallup has measured since 1996
September 3, 2012
Mitt Romney Brings Strengths and Weaknesses to GOP Stage
A Gallup editors' review of key findings about the GOP presidential nominee
August 30, 2012
Americans Split on Paul Ryan; One in Four Have No Opinion
Ryan's image split like Mitt Romney's
August 29, 2012
Most Americans Still Predict Obama Will Win 2012 Election
Romney supporters less optimistic than Obama supporters
August 27, 2012
Since 1952, Pre-Convention Leader Has Won 12 of 15 Elections
Close races, like the current one, have higher likelihood of a "shake-up"
August 27, 2012

[StevePerryHair]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

[AR]

I don't care if they elect a pineapple into office. It's all one big game anyway.

[Behshad]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

[StevePerryHair]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

Bush wouldn't go, Clinton couldn't be kept off stage and TV on a bet.

“President Bush was grateful for the invitation to the Republican National Convention,” Bush spokesman Freddy Ford wrote in an e-mail. “He supports Governor Romney and wants him to succeed. President Bush is confident that Mitt Romney will be a great President. But he’s still enjoying his time off the political stage and respectfully declined the invitation to go to Tampa.”

Okay, and you have no problem with this? You think this makes them look confident in him? When key figures don't get involved and decline? That gives me a huge message. You might think Clinton was there for himself, but 99% of his speech was about Obama from the start. Christie can't say the same. I see this as a problem for republicans.

[slucero]

Clinton would fuck Mrs Obama if he had the chance.. just so he could tell Hillary he did it...

[slucero]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

Bush wouldn't go, Clinton couldn't be kept off stage and TV on a bet.

“President Bush was grateful for the invitation to the Republican National Convention,” Bush spokesman Freddy Ford wrote in an e-mail. “He supports Governor Romney and wants him to succeed. President Bush is confident that Mitt Romney will be a great President. But he’s still enjoying his time off the political stage and respectfully declined the invitation to go to Tampa.”

Okay, and you have no problem with this? You think this makes them look confident in him? When key figures don't get involved and decline? That gives me a huge message. You might think Clinton was there for himself, but 99% of his speech was about Obama from the start. Christie can't say the same. I see this as a problem for republicans.

Clue:

Bush is kryptonite and the Reps know it... Bush showing up gives Obama somthing to talk about... Obama talking about Bush when Bush is absent can be painted by the Reps as "Obama STILL blaming Bush after 4 years".... so Bush stays home.


Clinton is the Elvis of the Dems and the Dems know it... there's no denying his charisma... which softens the current Obama tenure (failure) and rallies the Dems who are pissed at Obama but adore Clinton...

[StevePerryHair]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

Bush wouldn't go, Clinton couldn't be kept off stage and TV on a bet.

“President Bush was grateful for the invitation to the Republican National Convention,” Bush spokesman Freddy Ford wrote in an e-mail. “He supports Governor Romney and wants him to succeed. President Bush is confident that Mitt Romney will be a great President. But he’s still enjoying his time off the political stage and respectfully declined the invitation to go to Tampa.”

Okay, and you have no problem with this? You think this makes them look confident in him? When key figures don't get involved and decline? That gives me a huge message. You might think Clinton was there for himself, but 99% of his speech was about Obama from the start. Christie can't say the same. I see this as a problem for republicans.

Clue:

Bush is kryptonite and the Reps know it... Bush showing up gives Obama somthing to talk about... Obama talking about Bush when Bush is absent can be painted by the Reps as "Obama STILL blaming Bush after 4 years".... so Bush stays home.


Clinton is the Elvis of the Dems and the Dems know it... there's no denying his charisma... which softens the current Obama tenure (failure) and rallies the Dems who are pissed at Obama but adore Clinton...

What about Bush Sr? Is he in too bad of shape to speak? I'm asking because I haven't seen him in a while, and I'm sure he's aged a lot. But I still don't buy it. Republicans will run with "Clinton is a known liar" now, with their own ammunition. I think it looks much worse for Bush to stay hidden and silent. I don't feel the staunch republicans ARE that happy with Romney. I think it's just what they are stuck with. I think it shows.

[StevePerryHair]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:

I go to Gallup.com to see if I can verify this...and this is what I see.

Did you verify it or do you think I made it up?

Of course I can't verify it. You go to Gallup and find the poll.

The fact is you just repost articles you read. You find no facts at all.

[StevePerryHair]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

What the heck, I'm not making excuses, the dude declined the invite. Next time maybe I should call my ole bud W and squeez his nuts harder than the left did for 6 years. Jeez, you asked for opinions. The dude likes his privacy and/or just didn't want to play a role this year. Nothing I can do about it. I'd love to hear him speak just to hear B and Monk go apeshit.

No, but maybe you should be concerned over the lack of public support by key figures for your party's nomination. I just think its funny how you throw out all these facts you find, but when I give you a question like where's support for your candidate, all I get is "oh he likes his privacy" I thought for sure there would at least be a pie chart or something!

[Jana]

give it up Bill, for crying out loud

We don't want.

You'd rather see an old senile man in diapers argue with a chair ?!

Clinton totally & systematically destroyed and ripped republicans apart.
Nobody expected people like you to understand it , cause you were watching him with your blinders on
His speech was for those who are still on the fence and his job was to help them make up their mind and he did that and then some.
His speech last night ,plus tonight's event will be the nail in the coffin for Romney !

This is so true. Clinton's speech was brilliant. Those with blinders will refuse to admit it. His speech will help to push Obama through. Hillary for 2016. I see it happening.

Christie's whole speech was the kick-off for running for POTUS in 2016. What a team player for Romney. He's probably praying every night Romney loses.

[StevePerryHair]

I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

Take it up with the Pubbie primary voters.

I am one... but never in a trillion years would have nominated Romney.

[brandonx76]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

[Monker]

I see... so no one wants to answer my question. Boys club? Or no answer? Because it's better to ignore it?

Bush wouldn't go, Clinton couldn't be kept off stage and TV on a bet.

“President Bush was grateful for the invitation to the Republican National Convention,” Bush spokesman Freddy Ford wrote in an e-mail. “He supports Governor Romney and wants him to succeed. President Bush is confident that Mitt Romney will be a great President. But he’s still enjoying his time off the political stage and respectfully declined the invitation to go to Tampa.”

W and Romney are in the same position as Clinton was with Gore in 2000...even worse. W is viewed as a liability the same as Clinton was back then.

Clinton can't be kept off the stage because the Democrats want him there.

HW Bush is in the same position as Carter...nobody cares if he is there, or not. You may as well dig up Gerald Ford or something.

And, the other speakers look at Obama and ARE positioning themselves for 2016. That was completely obvious to anybody paying attention. The Democrats did it right - the speakers are there to support Obama, not be selfish and look at their own future.

[StevePerryHair]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

But I thought it wasn't Bush's fault...I thought it was Obama's fault for the dire financial state we are in? What does this say about the republicans if they have to DISTANCE themselves from each other!!! Why am I the only one seeing this as a DEFINITE game of smoke and mirrors. All politics is, but the right will claim its only the left? Yeah right!!

[Monker]

Clinton would fuck Mrs Obama if he had the chance.. just so he could tell Hillary he did it...

He'd do the same to Mrs. Romney...so at least he's bipartisan.

[slucero]

Clinton would fuck Mrs Obama if he had the chance.. just so he could tell Hillary he did it...

He'd do the same to Mrs. Romney...so at least he's bipartisan.

yup... Clinton is an equal opportunity philanderer...

[slucero]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

But I thought it wasn't Bush's fault...I thought it was Obama's fault for the dire financial state we are in? What does this say about the republicans if they have to DISTANCE themselves from each other!!! Why am I the only one seeing this as a DEFINITE game of smoke and mirrors. All politics is, but the right will claim its only the left? Yeah right!!

I think it speaks VOLUMES about "integrity" in either party when they have to exclude previous figures.... for political reasons... lol...

[Monker]

(Reuters) - So far, U.S. President Barack Obama has not received much of a bounce yet in popular support from the Democratic National Convention, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Thursday.

The latest daily tracking poll found Republican Mitt Romney still clinging to a narrow lead of 45 percent to Obama's 44 percent among likely voters. Romney had led by 46 percent to 44 percent in Wednesday's poll.

"We're not seeing a sort of glimmer, at this point, of a bump," said Ipsos pollster Julia Clark.

LOL...wait until next week when people have been able to digest the full convention. Then we will see what the true bump is.

The above reads like desperation to me.

[Monker]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

But I thought it wasn't Bush's fault...I thought it was Obama's fault for the dire financial state we are in? What does this say about the republicans if they have to DISTANCE themselves from each other!!! Why am I the only one seeing this as a DEFINITE game of smoke and mirrors. All politics is, but the right will claim its only the left? Yeah right!!

You are absolutely correct.

[conversationpc]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

But I thought it wasn't Bush's fault...I thought it was Obama's fault for the dire financial state we are in? What does this say about the republicans if they have to DISTANCE themselves from each other!!! Why am I the only one seeing this as a DEFINITE game of smoke and mirrors. All politics is, but the right will claim its only the left? Yeah right!!

You are absolutely correct.

I don't know many Republicans OR Democrats who think our financial situation is solely the fault of the other party. The only ones who do are delusional and I've heard a few from both sides.

[conversationpc]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

I'm not a big W fan but the one thing that I will give him is he's been respectful as a former President, unlike the last two former Presidents.

[Memorex]

Reagan gave a great speech at the 1992 Convention for Bush the Elder, didn't help us much that year. Bush II spoke at the 2008 Convention for McCain and that didn't matter either. W seems to like his privacy and I'm sure had he wanted to speak he would have been given a prime spot.

Hmm...he likes his privacy..but DID speak for McCain. But not Romney. This seriously is the best excuse you have? Something is not right. I really think the wrong person got the nomination.

I thought this was more due to distancing themselves from the party who's policies and practices and have lead up to such abysmal results. Notice Mccain and Palin were absent too.

But I thought it wasn't Bush's fault...I thought it was Obama's fault for the dire financial state we are in? What does this say about the republicans if they have to DISTANCE themselves from each other!!! Why am I the only one seeing this as a DEFINITE game of smoke and mirrors. All politics is, but the right will claim its only the left? Yeah right!!

You are absolutely correct.

I don't know many Republicans OR Democrats who think our financial situation is solely the fault of the other party. The only ones who do are delusional and I've heard a few from both sides.

Absolutely.