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Fact Finder wrote:Fact Finder commentary: Good god we have to watch Kerry, then Biden, then The Won?
It's like Dictators, Krokus, and Aldo Nova..
Don wrote:Honey Boo Boo' and Bill Clinton's DNC Speech Tie in Ratings
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... tlc-368469
After trumping individual cable and network coverage of the Republican National Convention in the key demographic, the TLC series takes its first hit and only ties the night's strongest news coverage (CNN) among adults 18-49.
What goes up must, eventually, come down -- and Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is no exception. The TLC series just saw its rising ratings take a hit for the first time since premiering a month ago.
Wednesday's installment of the zeitgeisting reality show pulled in 2.4 million viewers, a 20 percent drop from the previous week, according to Nielsen overnight ratings. It still stands as the series' second-highest audience in its five-episode history.
In the key adults 18-49 demographic, Honey Boo Boo took a smaller hit, falling just over nine percent (a tenth of a point) to a 1.1 adults rating.
That's hardly a major hit for the show, but it doesn't have the same bragging rights it did last week, besting all individual broadcasts of the Republican National Convention among adults 18-49 during the 10 p.m. hour.
Still, Honey Boo Boo tied CNN's coverage of the Democratic National Convention -- including a speech from President Bill Clinton -- and syndicated Big Bang Theory encores among 18-49-ers on cable and trailed only NBC's NFL season opener on all of television during that hour. (Aggregate coverage of the DNC clearly eclipsed Honey Boo Boo by all measurements, and DNC ratings reflect the entire 10 p.m. hour, with Honey Boo Boo only airing from 10 to 10: 30 p.m.)
That combination of football and the DNC saw dips across the board at 10 p.m. and over the course of the night. So while Honey Boo Boo may still be an unexpected ratings juggernaut, she apparently isn't infallible.

Fact Finder wrote:So where is everyone today touting last nights grand speech from The Won?


Fact Finder wrote:OBAMA HAMMERED IN FIRST REVIEWS...
The big flop! 'Banal...dull...flat...warmed-over rehash': Critics savage Obama's speech as new poll shows NO convention bounce
Left and Right united in thumbs down for address
Obama's reputation as masterful orator under threat
NOONAN: 'Stale and empty... he is out of juice'...
TOMASKY: Pedestrian and Overconfident...
KRAUTHAMMER: 'One Of The Emptiest I Have Ever Heard'...
No mention of stimulus, Obamacare...
FLASH: EARLY RATINGS FOR OBAMA SPEECH:
NBC -5% FROM 2008
CBS -31% FROM 2008
ABC -50% FROM 2008
slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....
Gideon wrote:slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....
Obama may be both a masterbater and a master debater, but I've never found him to be a particularly compelling orator.![]()
Better than W., certainly, but he's no Clinton, Kennedy, or Reagan. Obama's greatest speaking asset is his resistance to agitation, which was on display during his debates with McCain.

slucero wrote:Gideon wrote:slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....
Obama may be both a masterbater and a master debater, but I've never found him to be a particularly compelling orator.![]()
Better than W., certainly, but he's no Clinton, Kennedy, or Reagan. Obama's greatest speaking asset is his resistance to agitation, which was on display during his debates with McCain.
Ya but that was McCain... that's like the Beaver(McCain) picking on Eddie (Obama)...
I wanna see Obama debate Ryan...
Fact Finder wrote:slucero, your sig line reminds me of something when they tout Obama as the Car saver.....
BUSH DID IT..not the wonDec. 19, 2008 – The U.S. announces a $17.4 billion lifeline to Detroit car makers from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief (TARP) program. GM is to receive $13.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.
Monker wrote:Fact Finder wrote:slucero, your sig line reminds me of something when they tout Obama as the Car saver.....
BUSH DID IT..not the wonDec. 19, 2008 – The U.S. announces a $17.4 billion lifeline to Detroit car makers from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief (TARP) program. GM is to receive $13.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.
Which leaves out the FACT that Bush did NOTHING for months, turned into a political "I'll do that , if you do this"....prompting Obama to ask for Bush to support it. The money was dispersed in stages, much of it under Obama and not Bush. Also, the GM restructuring happened completely under Obama and Bush had nothing to do with it. So, Bush signed it, but to give him any 'credit' for it is absolute bullshit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03267.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/us/po ... wanted=all

Fact Finder wrote:Michael Moore: No Obama Didn't Save Detroit
For several years the left and their media minions have claimed that by bailing out Chrysler and General Motors, President Obama saved Detroit.
On Friday, the perilously liberal schlockumentarian Michael Moore debunked this in an article at the Huffington Post astonishingly saying, "No, he didn't."
"Last week, I said on the HuffPost Live webcast that we had all better start practicing how to say 'President Romney' because, living in Michigan, I can tell you that there's trouble here on the two peninsulas and it's not just because Romney is a native son or that we like to watch kids from Cranbrook chase down gay kids and chop their hair off," Moore wrote. "One recent poll here showed Romney leading Obama by four points! How can that be? Didn't Obama save Detroit?"
Moore answered his own question, "No, he didn't. He saved General Motors and Chrysler."
"'Detroit' (and Flint and Pontiac and Saginaw)," continued Moore, "are not defined by the global corporations who suck our towns dry and then split town to make more money elsewhere (except, of course, they continued to design and built crap cars, so eventually they didn't make the money at all). These cities in Michigan are about the people who live here, and in the process of 'saving Detroit,' Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left."
Inconvenient truths the Obama-loving media don't want the public to know. But Moore wasn't finished.
"There's a lot of pissed off people in Michigan (and Wisconsin and Ohio), people who weren't saved even though the corporation was. I'm just stating a fact, and those of you who don't live here should know this."
Actually, those that don't live in these areas would know this if America had an honest media.
Sadly, we don't leading to almost unthinkable ignorance about such matters and many other crucial issues facing the nation.
How extraordinary that an avowed Obama supporter would be willing to let this cat out of the bag two months before Election Day.
If only the rest of the so-called journalists out there would follow suit.
Don't hold your breath.
Fact: Obama didn't save Detroit, nor GM, nor Chrysler, he saved the unions. Witness the non-union employees of these companies losing their pensions. Some 20,000 of them. Alot of them live in the midwest and vote...![]()
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http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/t ... n-3157011/
t was recently reported by some slacked jawed idiot on this site.that Future Presiuden Romny's "believe in America" campaign buttons were made in China.
Sadly, (for the left) that turned out to be a lie.
The button image actually came from a site called Zazzle:
(Note the matching reflections on the back of both buttons)
The Romney button, the hand and the "made in China" were all added afterward.
We expect the left to stoop low in their smear campaigns. We just wish they would do a better job of it.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/t ... n-3157011/
t was recently reported by some slacked jawed idiot on this site.that Future Presiuden Romny's "believe in America" campaign buttons were made in China.
Sadly, (for the left) that turned out to be a lie.


Fact Finder wrote:Monker wrote:Fact Finder wrote:
I think you're scared of what the polls are going to show next week.
Dude, I ain't scared of anything. Let the people/voters do what they do, I'll deal with it.

Fact Finder wrote:1. When you include the underutilized labor figure with the eight million Americans who have lost hope altogether and stopped looking for a job, real unemployment now stands at just under 19 percent.
2. If the labor force were the same as when President Obama took office in January 2009, the unemployment rate reported on Friday would be 11.2 percent.
3. A record 88,921,000 Americans are no longer in the labor force. To be included in that figure, an individual must be over 16 years of age, a civilian, not in a mental hospital or nursing home, and have stopped hunting for a job for at least four weeks.
4. The average American lost 40 percent of their wealth from 2007 to 2010.
5. Every fifth man in America is out of work.
6. One out of two Americans are now low-income or below the poverty line.
7. Over the past four years, 400,000 food stamp recipients a month have been added to the welfare dole.
8. In 2006-2007, 90 percent of college graduates landed jobs. Under Obama, just 56 percent find work after college.
9. A gallon of gasoline cost $1.84 when Obama entered office. Today, a gallon of gas costs $3.77.
10. Every fourth home mortgage in America is underwater.
11. Under Obama, healthcare costs have skyrocketed 18.9 percent.
It is to cry for B.


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