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Postby Jana » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:56 am

Where was this John Kerry when he was running? Things might have been different.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:57 am

Jana wrote:Where was this John Kerry when he was running? Things might have been different.


He got cheated , remember ?! ;)
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Postby Don » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:15 am

Honey Boo Boo' and Bill Clinton's DNC Speech Tie in Ratings

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After trumping individual cable and network coverage of the Republican National Convention in the key demographic, the TLC series takes its first hit and only ties the night's strongest news coverage (CNN) among adults 18-49.

What goes up must, eventually, come down -- and Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is no exception. The TLC series just saw its rising ratings take a hit for the first time since premiering a month ago.

Wednesday's installment of the zeitgeisting reality show pulled in 2.4 million viewers, a 20 percent drop from the previous week, according to Nielsen overnight ratings. It still stands as the series' second-highest audience in its five-episode history.

In the key adults 18-49 demographic, Honey Boo Boo took a smaller hit, falling just over nine percent (a tenth of a point) to a 1.1 adults rating.
That's hardly a major hit for the show, but it doesn't have the same bragging rights it did last week, besting all individual broadcasts of the Republican National Convention among adults 18-49 during the 10 p.m. hour.
Still, Honey Boo Boo tied CNN's coverage of the Democratic National Convention -- including a speech from President Bill Clinton -- and syndicated Big Bang Theory encores among 18-49-ers on cable and trailed only NBC's NFL season opener on all of television during that hour. (Aggregate coverage of the DNC clearly eclipsed Honey Boo Boo by all measurements, and DNC ratings reflect the entire 10 p.m. hour, with Honey Boo Boo only airing from 10 to 10: 30 p.m.)

That combination of football and the DNC saw dips across the board at 10 p.m. and over the course of the night. So while Honey Boo Boo may still be an unexpected ratings juggernaut, she apparently isn't infallible.
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Postby Jana » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:19 am

Fact Finder wrote:Fact Finder commentary: Good god we have to watch Kerry, then Biden, then The Won?

It's like Dictators, Krokus, and Aldo Nova..


I know. Poor us. LOL You're so lucky. :wink: Christie doing his me-me-me speech preparing to run 2016, Eastwood stuttering to a chair. Where was good ol' Sarah? That would have been the trifecta. :shock:
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Postby Jana » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:28 am

Don wrote:Honey Boo Boo' and Bill Clinton's DNC Speech Tie in Ratings

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... tlc-368469

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After trumping individual cable and network coverage of the Republican National Convention in the key demographic, the TLC series takes its first hit and only ties the night's strongest news coverage (CNN) among adults 18-49.

What goes up must, eventually, come down -- and Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is no exception. The TLC series just saw its rising ratings take a hit for the first time since premiering a month ago.

Wednesday's installment of the zeitgeisting reality show pulled in 2.4 million viewers, a 20 percent drop from the previous week, according to Nielsen overnight ratings. It still stands as the series' second-highest audience in its five-episode history.

In the key adults 18-49 demographic, Honey Boo Boo took a smaller hit, falling just over nine percent (a tenth of a point) to a 1.1 adults rating.
That's hardly a major hit for the show, but it doesn't have the same bragging rights it did last week, besting all individual broadcasts of the Republican National Convention among adults 18-49 during the 10 p.m. hour.
Still, Honey Boo Boo tied CNN's coverage of the Democratic National Convention -- including a speech from President Bill Clinton -- and syndicated Big Bang Theory encores among 18-49-ers on cable and trailed only NBC's NFL season opener on all of television during that hour. (Aggregate coverage of the DNC clearly eclipsed Honey Boo Boo by all measurements, and DNC ratings reflect the entire 10 p.m. hour, with Honey Boo Boo only airing from 10 to 10: 30 p.m.)

That combination of football and the DNC saw dips across the board at 10 p.m. and over the course of the night. So while Honey Boo Boo may still be an unexpected ratings juggernaut, she apparently isn't infallible.


I sink low on my reality shows like The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but even I have standards. Women should be shot who are watching this show. I take a brief leave from my pacifist views about violence and gun control on this point.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:46 am

Fact Finder wrote:So where is everyone today touting last nights grand speech from The Won?


Why would you care ? You couldnt really listened to the speech anyways . Even good old Biden did an amazing job, but you would never ever admit it, so lets just wait till the DEBATE ! ;) :)
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Postby Gideon » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:55 am

Clinton's speech was pretty good; the man is still smooth as silk. It also reminded me of Newhouse's hilarious admission that Romney's campaign would not be dictated by fact-checkers. :lol:
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby Gideon » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:00 am

Obama has a reputation as a master orator? :shock:
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby slucero » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:25 am

pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....

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Postby Monker » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:30 am

What I read is Obama's approval has improved to the highest level in months and small bounce but large enough to erase Romney's and give him a slight lead.

Funny how you miss that and post stuff that really doesn't matter.

Fact Finder wrote:OBAMA HAMMERED IN FIRST REVIEWS...

The big flop! 'Banal...dull...flat...warmed-over rehash': Critics savage Obama's speech as new poll shows NO convention bounce

Left and Right united in thumbs down for address

Obama's reputation as masterful orator under threat

NOONAN: 'Stale and empty... he is out of juice'...

TOMASKY: Pedestrian and Overconfident...

KRAUTHAMMER: 'One Of The Emptiest I Have Ever Heard'...

No mention of stimulus, Obamacare...

FLASH: EARLY RATINGS FOR OBAMA SPEECH:

NBC -5% FROM 2008
CBS -31% FROM 2008
ABC -50% FROM 2008
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Postby Gideon » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:49 am

slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....


Obama may be both a masterbater and a master debater, but I've never found him to be a particularly compelling orator. :lol:

Better than W., certainly, but he's no Clinton, Kennedy, or Reagan. Obama's greatest speaking asset is his resistance to agitation, which was on display during his debates with McCain.
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Postby slucero » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:24 am

Gideon wrote:
slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....


Obama may be both a masterbater and a master debater, but I've never found him to be a particularly compelling orator. :lol:

Better than W., certainly, but he's no Clinton, Kennedy, or Reagan. Obama's greatest speaking asset is his resistance to agitation, which was on display during his debates with McCain.



Ya but that was McCain... that's like the Beaver(McCain) picking on Eddie (Obama)...


I wanna see Obama debate Ryan...

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Postby Gideon » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:36 am

slucero wrote:
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slucero wrote:pretty soon we'll find out who the Masterdebater is....


Obama may be both a masterbater and a master debater, but I've never found him to be a particularly compelling orator. :lol:

Better than W., certainly, but he's no Clinton, Kennedy, or Reagan. Obama's greatest speaking asset is his resistance to agitation, which was on display during his debates with McCain.



Ya but that was McCain... that's like the Beaver(McCain) picking on Eddie (Obama)...


I wanna see Obama debate Ryan...


Ah, a spectacle of youthful confidence vs. seasoned poise?
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Postby Monker » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:37 pm

Fact Finder wrote:slucero, your sig line reminds me of something when they tout Obama as the Car saver.....

BUSH DID IT..not the won


Dec. 19, 2008 – The U.S. announces a $17.4 billion lifeline to Detroit car makers from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief (TARP) program. GM is to receive $13.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.


Which leaves out the FACT that Bush did NOTHING for months, turned into a political "I'll do that , if you do this"....prompting Obama to ask for Bush to support it. The money was dispersed in stages, much of it under Obama and not Bush. Also, the GM restructuring happened completely under Obama and Bush had nothing to do with it. So, Bush signed it, but to give him any 'credit' for it is absolute bullshit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03267.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/us/po ... wanted=all
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Postby slucero » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:35 am

Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:slucero, your sig line reminds me of something when they tout Obama as the Car saver.....

BUSH DID IT..not the won


Dec. 19, 2008 – The U.S. announces a $17.4 billion lifeline to Detroit car makers from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief (TARP) program. GM is to receive $13.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.


Which leaves out the FACT that Bush did NOTHING for months, turned into a political "I'll do that , if you do this"....prompting Obama to ask for Bush to support it. The money was dispersed in stages, much of it under Obama and not Bush. Also, the GM restructuring happened completely under Obama and Bush had nothing to do with it. So, Bush signed it, but to give him any 'credit' for it is absolute bullshit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03267.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/us/po ... wanted=all




I can agree with that.. as long as we give Obama "credit" and blame for the things he's signed for, but will occur when he's out of office (win or lose).

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Postby Behshad » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:41 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Michael Moore: No Obama Didn't Save Detroit

For several years the left and their media minions have claimed that by bailing out Chrysler and General Motors, President Obama saved Detroit.

On Friday, the perilously liberal schlockumentarian Michael Moore debunked this in an article at the Huffington Post astonishingly saying, "No, he didn't."

"Last week, I said on the HuffPost Live webcast that we had all better start practicing how to say 'President Romney' because, living in Michigan, I can tell you that there's trouble here on the two peninsulas and it's not just because Romney is a native son or that we like to watch kids from Cranbrook chase down gay kids and chop their hair off," Moore wrote. "One recent poll here showed Romney leading Obama by four points! How can that be? Didn't Obama save Detroit?"

Moore answered his own question, "No, he didn't. He saved General Motors and Chrysler."

"'Detroit' (and Flint and Pontiac and Saginaw)," continued Moore, "are not defined by the global corporations who suck our towns dry and then split town to make more money elsewhere (except, of course, they continued to design and built crap cars, so eventually they didn't make the money at all). These cities in Michigan are about the people who live here, and in the process of 'saving Detroit,' Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left."

Inconvenient truths the Obama-loving media don't want the public to know. But Moore wasn't finished.

"There's a lot of pissed off people in Michigan (and Wisconsin and Ohio), people who weren't saved even though the corporation was. I'm just stating a fact, and those of you who don't live here should know this."

Actually, those that don't live in these areas would know this if America had an honest media.

Sadly, we don't leading to almost unthinkable ignorance about such matters and many other crucial issues facing the nation.

How extraordinary that an avowed Obama supporter would be willing to let this cat out of the bag two months before Election Day.

If only the rest of the so-called journalists out there would follow suit.

Don't hold your breath.



Fact: Obama didn't save Detroit, nor GM, nor Chrysler, he saved the unions. Witness the non-union employees of these companies losing their pensions. Some 20,000 of them. Alot of them live in the midwest and vote... :lol: :lol: :lol:


Those 20.000 who lost their pension , would have lost that pension regardless of the bailout. Why is it so hard for you to understand !?
Saving jobs of millionn (including the 20.000) doesnt matter of course :roll:
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Postby Behshad » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:52 am

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Postby slucero » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:59 am

DEBUNKED... what a retard you are...

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/t ... n-3157011/

t was recently reported by some slacked jawed idiot on this site.that Future Presiuden Romny's "believe in America" campaign buttons were made in China.
Sadly, (for the left) that turned out to be a lie.

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The button image actually came from a site called Zazzle:

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(Note the matching reflections on the back of both buttons)
The Romney button, the hand and the "made in China" were all added afterward.

We expect the left to stoop low in their smear campaigns. We just wish they would do a better job of it.



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http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/t ... n-3157011/

t was recently reported by some slacked jawed idiot on this site.that Future Presiuden Romny's "believe in America" campaign buttons were made in China.
Sadly, (for the left) that turned out to be a lie.






Real valid source ! :lol: :lol: Where's Stevew2 when we need him !? 8)
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Postby Gideon » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:25 am

I'm convinced you two are cooperatively pulling off an elaborate spoof that seeks to demonstrate the vicious partisanship that has utterly fucked our political system. I'm onto you! :lol:
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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:50 am

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I think you're scared of what the polls are going to show next week.
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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:26 am

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I think you're scared of what the polls are going to show next week.




Dude, I ain't scared of anything. Let the people/voters do what they do, I'll deal with it. :wink:


Sure. Republicans are in a hole right now. Paul Ryan did little to add to the ticket. You are going in the debates with the momentum on the other side. The convention may as well had never happened. Romney is not that good of a debater. Couple all of that with the fact that Republicans and conservatives in general really did not want him as the nominee...but had to take him because the other Republican candidates had major flaws.

The Democrats had an almost flawless convention...they will receive a bounce. But, more importantly, their enthusiasm is up again. Moderate voters are probably looking at this again and some are going to come back to Obama. IMO, Obama will get a small bump - and Romney is going to SINK a little bit.

As long as Obama does not blow the debates, and the VP debate is irrelevant - ask Dukakis, I do not see how the Republicans win enough swing states to win the election. The Republicans are in a deep hole right now - and you know it.

I think it just makes you feel better to post negative, irrelevant, crap. "Fact Finder" LOL...The fact is you like to ignore the facts.
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Postby slucero » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:36 am

I expect Romney to lose, but not not because Obama gets more Dem votes.

After what the GOP did at the convention, by changing the delegate rules when the delegate vote was clearly "no"... I expect enough Tea Party, Independent Conservative, Libertarian, and newly shocked & disgruntled Republicans will:

  • write in a candidate,
  • vote for Obama or
  • simply stay away from the voting booth altogether.

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Postby Behshad » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:45 am

Fact Finder wrote:1. When you include the underutilized labor figure with the eight million Americans who have lost hope altogether and stopped looking for a job, real unemployment now stands at just under 19 percent.

2. If the labor force were the same as when President Obama took office in January 2009, the unemployment rate reported on Friday would be 11.2 percent.

3. A record 88,921,000 Americans are no longer in the labor force. To be included in that figure, an individual must be over 16 years of age, a civilian, not in a mental hospital or nursing home, and have stopped hunting for a job for at least four weeks.

4. The average American lost 40 percent of their wealth from 2007 to 2010.

5. Every fifth man in America is out of work.

6. One out of two Americans are now low-income or below the poverty line.

7. Over the past four years, 400,000 food stamp recipients a month have been added to the welfare dole.

8. In 2006-2007, 90 percent of college graduates landed jobs. Under Obama, just 56 percent find work after college.

9. A gallon of gasoline cost $1.84 when Obama entered office. Today, a gallon of gas costs $3.77.

10. Every fourth home mortgage in America is underwater.

11. Under Obama, healthcare costs have skyrocketed 18.9 percent.




It is to cry for B. :cry:



Of course it's ALL Obsma's fault and if Romney gets in all of the above will magically disappear. Funny how you shift do quickly to pity and crying once you realize your buddy Romney doesn't have a chance to win.
I didn't see you crying after 4 years of Bush and trying to vote for someone else to get in and fix it. You gave Bush another 4 years even though he had fucked everything up in his first 4 years . At least Obama is trying to fix things and he will. You can't expect him to fix what Bush caused during 8 years , in less than 4 years.
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