President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Behshad]

If you mainly enjoy beers like bud light , coors light , miller light , then it's not the beer for you.

That stuff isn't even real beer. I call it Diet Beer.

I believe that's why they call it "light" Dave. "Taste great, less filling"

Except it doesn't taste GREAT. Most people who drink it , like it cause it doesn't taste like beer

Well I drink Nati-Light because I'm cheap. I hate pissing away good money.

So let me guess , you rather eat hot dogs instead of T-Bone steak cause you hate to shit away good money ?

Food is a differnt matter, as you'll se when you get here. I keep a box of Omaha Steaks on hand at all times. You want Triple trimmed Sirloin or Bacon Wrapped Filet? (I recommend the TTS myself) They wrap the bacon arond those filets to keep them greased up for a reason.

Even thought it'll be cold out , I'll get the grill out and make you the best steak you ever had !

How about lobster? You know how to cook that?

Nope, I'm not good at making seafood except for salmon.

[Behshad]

If you mainly enjoy beers like bud light , coors light , miller light , then it's not the beer for you.

That stuff isn't even real beer. I call it Diet Beer.

I believe that's why they call it "light" Dave. "Taste great, less filling"

Except it doesn't taste GREAT. Most people who drink it , like it cause it doesn't taste like beer

Well I drink Nati-Light because I'm cheap. I hate pissing away good money.

So let me guess , you rather eat hot dogs instead of T-Bone steak cause you hate to shit away good money ?

Food is a differnt matter, as you'll se when you get here. I keep a box of Omaha Steaks on hand at all times. You want Triple trimmed Sirloin or Bacon Wrapped Filet? (I recommend the TTS myself) They wrap the bacon arond those filets to keep them greased up for a reason.

Even thought it'll be cold out , I'll get the grill out and make you the best steak you ever had !

How about lobster? You know how to cook that?

Nope, I'm not good at making seafood except for salmon.

Dropping that Lobster in boiling water is pretty tricky..

they bite !

[Memorex]

On a more serious note - I am pretty ashamed of the way the president has handled the Libya situation. It's the first time I can really remember such massive fraud in information given to the American people when our citizens were attacked or killed. At first I thought there was just a lot of scrambled information, but when it was clear that the president and Hilary were flat out lying, it really bothered me.

As an American, I've always taken pride in our leaders standing up and talking tough when we've gotten a black eye. It's why I love Obama's drone program. Don't want to play nice? Missile on your skull. But this response has been nothing short of disgraceful. He purposely downplayed the situation, lied, tried to point to other things only to protect his precious view of how he thinks he is viewed around the world. If I was him, I would have taken the Nobel prize money, stuffed it in a cruise missile, and fired it up someone's ass.

The worst was yesterday. When I have a fight with my wife, it bugs me on a level of 3 or 4. If my wife were to stand in front of friends and enemies and flat out lie about something that hurt me, it would bug me on a level of 10! He stood there in front of all of those people and blamed some video that was already shown to have absolutely nothing to do with the planned attack on one of our darkest historical days, September 11th. I can't think of any other words than shameful and disgraceful.

Then when everyone has focused on something else, and no one is paying attention, they will quietly mutter the words Al Qaeda (like Hilary did today).

I didn't realize how much this was bothering me until yesterday in his UN speech.

I'm not commenting on Obama the Democrat or Obama the candidate. I'm commenting on Obama, my president, America's president. Sometimes you have to stop running for president and just be one.

By the way, I have mentioned Obama, Hillary, attack, cruise missile, drone, and Al Qaeda in the same post. I suppose I'll be monitored for a few days from Homeland.

[Memorex]

I think the reason why is two-fold. For one, the president thinks he is loved all over the world and he promised that the Muslim world would feel much better toward America once he was elected. And two, he is heading toward the end of a campaign and he didn't need a terrorist attack to derail his plan.

Americans are pretty good at not blaming a president for attacks, but they will be quick to blame you if you don't act. No normal person would have blamed Obama or his administration for the attack if he just stood up and said we were attacked, we will find this evil people, and they will be brought to justice. Instead, he damn near excused them by pointing to some video that had no correlation to the attack. I don't care how much I agree or disagree with a president when it comes to everything else at these times. Just stand up for Americans and it's citizens when we are attacked. Don't bow down to these evil fucks.

And before anyone goes off - I am talking about evil people, not good people, regardless of their religion.

[steveo777]

I think the reason why is two-fold. For one, the president thinks he is loved all over the world and he promised that the Muslim world would feel much better toward America once he was elected. And two, he is heading toward the end of a campaign and he didn't need a terrorist attack to derail his plan.

Americans are pretty good at not blaming a president for attacks, but they will be quick to blame you if you don't act. No normal person would have blamed Obama or his administration for the attack if he just stood up and said we were attacked, we will find this evil people, and they will be brought to justice. Instead, he damn near excused them by pointing to some video that had no correlation to the attack. I don't care how much I agree or disagree with a president when it comes to everything else at these times. Just stand up for Americans and it's citizens when we are attacked. Don't bow down to these evil fucks.

And before anyone goes off - I am talking about evil people, not good people, regardless of their religion.

I'll talk about evil Muslims anytime I want and I don't give a damn what anyone thinks. Hell with the PC crap. That is part of what's wrong today, people can't just tell it like it is without being afraid of offending some race, nationality or religious group. Instead, we walk on egg shells and zip it.

[Memorex]

Are you saying all Muslims are evil? I think that would be way off base. You know, some people have to live in their element and their culture and certainly America is a different kind of place. But I don't think any particular people are defaulted to evil. Remember how much we used to hate the Russians? Trns out they aren't all that different than us - though I wouldn't challenge any of them to a drinking contest.

[steveo777]

Are you saying all Muslims are evil? I think that would be way off base. You know, some people have to live in their element and their culture and certainly America is a different kind of place. But I don't think any particular people are defaulted to evil. Remember how much we used to hate the Russians? Trns out they aren't all that different than us - though I wouldn't challenge any of them to a drinking contest.

Nope....just the evil ones. And those are the ones I have no hesitation calling them what they are.

[slucero]

Are you saying all Muslims are evil? I think that would be way off base. You know, some people have to live in their element and their culture and certainly America is a different kind of place. But I don't think any particular people are defaulted to evil. Remember how much we used to hate the Russians? Trns out they aren't all that different than us - though I wouldn't challenge any of them to a drinking contest.

Nope....just the evil ones. And those are the ones I have no hesitation calling them what they are.

how do you tell the "evil ones" from the good ones?

[Seven Wishes2]

On a more serious note - I am pretty ashamed of the way the president has handled the Libya situation. It's the first time I can really remember such massive fraud in information given to the American people when our citizens were attacked or killed. At first I thought there was just a lot of scrambled information, but when it was clear that the president and Hilary were flat out lying, it really bothered me.

First of all, you're really grasping for straws here.

Secondly, hundreds of Americans had already died in Iraq a few weeks into the 2003 war, when the Bush Admin said there were only a few.

[The Sushi Hunter]

If you mainly enjoy beers like bud light , coors light , miller light , then it's not the beer for you.

That stuff isn't even real beer. I call it Diet Beer.

I believe that's why they call it "light" Dave. "Taste great, less filling"

Except it doesn't taste GREAT. Most people who drink it , like it cause it doesn't taste like beer

Well I drink Nati-Light because I'm cheap. I hate pissing away good money.

So let me guess , you rather eat hot dogs instead of T-Bone steak cause you hate to shit away good money ?

Food is a differnt matter, as you'll se when you get here. I keep a box of Omaha Steaks on hand at all times. You want Triple trimmed Sirloin or Bacon Wrapped Filet? (I recommend the TTS myself) They wrap the bacon arond those filets to keep them greased up for a reason.

Even thought it'll be cold out , I'll get the grill out and make you the best steak you ever had !

How about lobster? You know how to cook that?

Nope, I'm not good at making seafood except for salmon.

Dropping that Lobster in boiling water is pretty tricky..

Boiling is the easiest way but for the best taste, broiling or grilling the lobster is better.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Are you saying all Muslims are evil? I think that would be way off base. You know, some people have to live in their element and their culture and certainly America is a different kind of place. But I don't think any particular people are defaulted to evil. Remember how much we used to hate the Russians? Trns out they aren't all that different than us - though I wouldn't challenge any of them to a drinking contest.

Nope....just the evil ones. And those are the ones I have no hesitation calling them what they are.

how do you tell the "evil ones" from the good ones?

Yeah if you give them all an honest chance, by the time you realize who the bad ones are, you're already dead.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yesterday I read Obama getting tough on Iran for their nuke program. Where are all the Dems and Libs screaming about how wrong this is like they did when Bush got tough on Iraq for WMD?

[Behshad]

Yesterday I read Obama getting tough on Iran for their nuke program. Where are all the Dems and Libs screaming about how wrong this is like they did when Bush got tough on Iraq for WMD?

Bush did more than just "got tough". He went in and started a war that costs us tons of money , based on NOTHING ! He was advised over and over again not to start a war without evidence . Did he find WMD ? no ! He went in for the wrong reasons at the wrong time. He used WMD as an excuse just to go after the guy who fought with his daddy.

[The Sushi Hunter]

They did find WMD over there. Each terrorist they took out was one more WMD that was taken out. 27 WMD were sent to attack America, only 19 were able to actually make it far enough to hijack the planes and crash into the WTC the Pentagon and the field. Each one of those 19 hijacker's was a WMD. Of course, my opinion about it only.

And really look at it, Saddam wasn't letting weapons inspectors in yet was boasting about weapons they claimed to have, add that in with Saddam fully in support of the 9-11 attack on American soil.

[Behshad]

They did find WMD over there. Each terrorist they took out was one more WMD that was taken out. 27 WMD were sent to attack America, only 19 were able to actually make it far enough to hijack the planes and crash into the WTC the Pentagon and the field. Each one of those 19 hijacker's was a WMD. Of course, my opinion about it only.

And really look at it, Saddam wasn't letting weapons inspectors in yet was boasting about weapons they claimed to have, add that in with Saddam fully in support of the 9-11 attack on American soil.

If that's the case , then we should start a war with every fucking country in the region.

Show me your proof that Saddam fully supported 9/11.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3118262.stm

Those WMDs you're referring to Werner trained here in US and were from Afghanistan not Iraq .

[Monker]

They did find WMD over there. Each terrorist they took out was one more WMD that was taken out. 27 WMD were sent to attack America, only 19 were able to actually make it far enough to hijack the planes and crash into the WTC the Pentagon and the field. Each one of those 19 hijacker's was a WMD. Of course, my opinion about it only.

And really look at it, Saddam wasn't letting weapons inspectors in yet was boasting about weapons they claimed to have, add that in with Saddam fully in support of the 9-11 attack on American soil.

The 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia and trained in Afghanistan...they absolutely were NOT from Iraq, as you imply above.

And, Iraq was not a terrorist haven until AFTER W. invaded the country. People love to point out that Saddam gassed his own people but forget that they were Islamic fundamentalists...and would just as easily attack Saddam as they would the US.

Saddam was an annoying gnat, from the US perspective. He and Iraq were NOT a threat to the US, no matter how much Saddam pretended he was, or how much W's administration wanted him to be. Saddam liked to talk tough, but he was only full of lies with nothing there to back it up. We should have learned that from the first Iraq war.

[Monker]

Yesterday I read Obama getting tough on Iran for their nuke program. Where are all the Dems and Libs screaming about how wrong this is like they did when Bush got tough on Iraq for WMD?

When Obama makes the decision to invade Iran with our army and topple the government to replace it with a Democracy...then I will absolutely scream that it is the wrong thing to do.

[Monker]

Are you saying all Muslims are evil? I think that would be way off base. You know, some people have to live in their element and their culture and certainly America is a different kind of place. But I don't think any particular people are defaulted to evil. Remember how much we used to hate the Russians? Trns out they aren't all that different than us - though I wouldn't challenge any of them to a drinking contest.

Nope....just the evil ones. And those are the ones I have no hesitation calling them what they are.

how do you tell the "evil ones" from the good ones?

Yeah if you give them all an honest chance, by the time you realize who the bad ones are, you're already dead.

Oh, please...that is such a racist comment.

I've worked with many Muslims and none of them are 'evil'. It reminds of Russia during the cold war when they were all perceived as 'evil' communists. It's just not true. Most, by far, are just ordinary people trying to to live their lives the best they can.

In fact, I would say that the comments above are more 'evil' then anything I have personally heard a Muslim say.

[The Sushi Hunter]

So what do you make if this vid starting at 5.01 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKSwGR6wVc

But the question still remains, what do you think about Obama getting tough on Iran and looking like we are going to go in with some type of military action against them for supposed nuclear weapons technologies, sort of like the WMD suspicion wtih Iraq a number of years ago? And doing this all right before the '12 elections? What's the Dems and Libs have to say about this? Another one of those "pin drop" moments.

[Behshad]

So what do you make if this vid starting at 5.01 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKSwGR6wVc

But the question still remains, what do you think about Obama getting tough on Iran and looking like we are going to go in with some type of military action against them for supposed nuclear weapons technologies, sort of like the WMD suspicion wtih Iraq a number of years ago? And doing this all right before the '12 elections? What's the Dems and Libs have to say about this? Another one of those "pin drop" moments.

There is NO WAY that Obama would start a military action this year.
SUPPOSED nuclear weapon technologies ?

[Monker]

So what do you make if this vid starting at 5.01 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKSwGR6wVc

But the question still remains, what do you think about Obama getting tough on Iran and looking like we are going to go in with some type of military action against them for supposed nuclear weapons technologies, sort of like the WMD suspicion wtih Iraq a number of years ago? And doing this all right before the '12 elections? What's the Dems and Libs have to say about this? Another one of those "pin drop" moments.

Geez, Gore is talking about Bush Sr., it seems. I'd like to know more context.

But, whatever....back when W. was all hyper about Iraq, I said that he should send in some bombers and bomb the crap out of them. I would say the same thing now about Iran. Either let the inspectors do their job and inspect the facility, or we assume the worst and blow it up.

No way would I ever support sending in the Army. It was stupid then and it is stupid now.

[The Sushi Hunter]

What I find most fascinating is how all Dems and Libs seem to press that Bush and the Republican's "coined" WMD, yet clearly a younger looking Gore is saying it and he's also using it the same sentences as the word "Iraq". Very fascinating.

[Rick]

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[Behshad]

"I'm going to win Ohio," Romney told NBC's Ron Allen in an interview. "I'm going to become the next president."




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I'm going to say NO to that ! He will lose Ohio and the election

[The Sushi Hunter]

So When are the military activities commencing in Iran?

[Behshad]

So When are the military activities commencing in Iran?

Only if Romney gets in office , so never !

[The Sushi Hunter]

So When are the military activities commencing in Iran?

Only if Romney gets in office , so never !

Romney's not the one getting tough on Iran though, Obama and his administration is.